geekhack

geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 29 October 2015, 15:04:18

Title: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 29 October 2015, 15:04:18
ILY!!! <3333

Lol I bet ya'll thought this was gonna be another one like the Binge Bro lol my bad letter.
In all seriousness though, despite how immature people can be sometimes around here, I feel like the moderation team is pretty much always on the ball, not letting their personal disputes get in the way of fair judgment. I've been on a lot of ****ty online forums, so it's refreshing to visit one that's not modded by like literal twelve-year-olds (I can't speak to most of your actual ages, but at least you don't behave like you're kids). Keep up the good work!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: beehatch on Thu, 29 October 2015, 15:18:27
lol
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 29 October 2015, 15:19:07
Binge wrote a letter??
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 29 October 2015, 15:22:24
:llama: :llama: :llama: :llama: :llama:
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: Binge on Thu, 29 October 2015, 15:52:10
Binge wrote a letter??

+1?
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:01:03
Binge wrote a letter??

+1?

Binge Bro lol my bad
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:18:41
Binge wrote a letter??

+1?

Binge Bro lol my bad

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m78xcnZA2G1r16g9v.gif)
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: Sent on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:27:35
Fight the power.  Down with Hoff.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:33:10
Huff the Hoff
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:46:20
There are mods on this site?
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:49:22
There are mods on this site?

Not really. There is only one that shows his face anymore. As I've said before, people become mods and then just hide or disappear and don't participate in the community.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:54:00
There are mods on this site?

Not really. There is only one that shows his face anymore. As I've said before, people become mods and then just hide or disappear and don't participate in the community.

I mean User 18 doesn't participate too much, but he still mods from time to time.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:54:55
There are undercover mods, you wouldn't want to get on their bad side.

You never know who it'll be.... :eek:
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:56:33
There are undercover mods, you wouldn't want to get on their bad side.

You never know who it'll be.... :eek:

Yeah... the report spam police. Report everything and waste Hoff's time going through it.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: inanis on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:57:44
Too bad the mods don't participate more. Hoff participates and he is nearly universally liked. I tend to think there is some correlation there.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 29 October 2015, 17:17:12
You're lucky I bothered to read the post before banning you for that title.  >:D

JK, I <3 all of you guys.  :-*
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 29 October 2015, 17:32:53

You're lucky I bothered to read the post before banning you for that title.  >:D

JK, I <3 all of you guys.  :-*

We all <3 Hoff
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:05:32
Sometimes circle jerks are fun, and the hoff circlejerk is the epitome of circle jerks.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:29:40

Sometimes circle jerks are fun, and the hoff circlejerk is the epitome of circle jerks.

Gather round, boys. Looks like Air tree wants some action.

We <3 you too, Air tree.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:33:27
Sometimes circle jerks are fun, and the hoff circlejerk is the epitome of circle jerks.

:-[  Trust me, it's not universal.  :P

Also, y'all are makin' me blush.  :|
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:35:50
Overall, I have been very pleased with the moderators here and would not have any complaint at all except that they probably get paid too much.

I have never understood about who gets banned and why, but I cannot imagine that it is generally without cause.

Seriously, my only real irritation is the policy of classifieds not posting until approved. When I decide to sell something it is probably because I want the money for something else - so sooner rather than later. If I feel that it is desirable and priced to sell then it won't take long. I like to put it up here for a few hours at least before going to ebay. But there have been times that I listed something at noon and it still was not approved at 8:00pm. That is a problem if you are hoping to sell in a matter of hours and you don't even get it onto ebay until the next day.

I prefer short threads without a load of TL;DR but many (most) people just add and edit for current sales. I hate having to look back through 3 years and 400 posts to see the one thing that an active seller is actually selling today.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 30 October 2015, 00:51:14
I see no moderators.

[attachimg=1]

Or admins.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: sth on Fri, 30 October 2015, 03:37:42
I see no moderators.

(Attachment Link)

Or admins.

are there any EMEA or APAC mods?
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 30 October 2015, 03:56:32
EMEA, not sure.  APAC yes,, I think.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 30 October 2015, 04:01:38
EMEA, not sure.  APAC yes,, I think.

Care to explain these in newbie terms?  I guess it means "hidden from that list" in some way but can't even guess what one letter may stand for :confused:
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: sth on Fri, 30 October 2015, 04:04:52
EMEA, not sure.  APAC yes,, I think.

Care to explain these in newbie terms?  I guess it means "hidden from that list" in some way but can't even guess what one letter may stand for :confused:

europe/middle east/africa, asia/pacific
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 30 October 2015, 04:11:03
EMEA, not sure.  APAC yes,, I think.

Care to explain these in newbie terms?  I guess it means "hidden from that list" in some way but can't even guess what one letter may stand for :confused:

europe/middle east/africa, asia/pacific

Ah, wasn't thinking of geography at all!  Thanks :)
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 30 October 2015, 07:06:38
Also, the list shows Soarer as the moderator of the "Making Stuff Together" category, and I agree that he should be "honorary" moderator, but it would be good to know who actually does it, in case there was a question or direct request.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 30 October 2015, 08:32:44
Overall, I have been very pleased with the moderators here and would not have any complaint at all except that they probably get paid too much.

I have never understood about who gets banned and why, but I cannot imagine that it is generally without cause.

Seriously, my only real irritation is the policy of classifieds not posting until approved. When I decide to sell something it is probably because I want the money for something else - so sooner rather than later. If I feel that it is desirable and priced to sell then it won't take long. I like to put it up here for a few hours at least before going to ebay. But there have been times that I listed something at noon and it still was not approved at 8:00pm. That is a problem if you are hoping to sell in a matter of hours and you don't even get it onto ebay until the next day.

I prefer short threads without a load of TL;DR but many (most) people just add and edit for current sales. I hate having to look back through 3 years and 400 posts to see the one thing that an active seller is actually selling today.

We're really not supposed to talk about bans, but I think it's fair for people to want to know, so I try to disclose as much as I can if people ask.  It's almost always that someone was trolling/attacking for awhile, got warned a few times, played nice for a couple weeks, went back to the old ways, got warned / temp banned, played nice again, then had a spectacular breakdown and got permabanned.  So if you're ever curious, it's probably some variation of that story.  :P 

Contrary to what some redditors may have you (not you fohat, but some people) believe, we have never banned "because we didn't like someone" or anything stupid like that.  And if you think we did, I'd be happy to clear that up for you.  :thumb:


As for the Classifieds, trust me, it's more work for us than it is for you.  But I certainly do understand the frustration.  :-/
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: iri on Fri, 30 October 2015, 10:03:22
HOFF IS A MARVELOUS MAN WHOSE INTELLIGENCE AND BEAUTY ARE SECOND ONLY TO THE OLYMPIAN GODS
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 30 October 2015, 10:07:06
Why are bans so secretive?
When I've been a mod on other forums we were pretty open about bans, people break rules there is no quarm, or if I choose to be a **** and ban someone i would make it clear I was just being a **** lol... why is transparency such an issue?

Maybe-well no for sure this has already been covered-just seems odd... if you only ban people for breaking the rules, making due acc's why can't you talk about it or what issues would arise from talking about it?
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 30 October 2015, 11:08:14
Why are bans so secretive?
When I've been a mod on other forums we were pretty open about bans, people break rules there is no quarm, or if I choose to be a **** and ban someone i would make it clear I was just being a **** lol... why is transparency such an issue?

Maybe-well no for sure this has already been covered-just seems odd... if you only ban people for breaking the rules, making due acc's why can't you talk about it or what issues would arise from talking about it?

I think it started with a few key bans awhile back, and developed into a universal "rule". Your points are exactly why I really don't mind it and am happy to discuss these things with people if asked.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 30 October 2015, 18:00:41
HEIL HOFFSTER!
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 30 October 2015, 20:45:28
While this is turning into an "ask the mods" thread, what does "muted" mean vs banned?
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 30 October 2015, 20:53:16
While this is turning into an "ask the mods" thread, what does "muted" mean vs banned?

Muted usually means you just can't post for a set amount of time based on your level of warning.

A ban which is often temporary usually last anywhere from a few days to 3 months, a ban means you can't even login IIRC.

I think hashbaz posted somewhere explaining a lot of it once, like how the warning levels decrease etc.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 30 October 2015, 20:54:49
While this is turning into an "ask the mods" thread, what does "muted" mean vs banned?

Muted usually means you just can't post for a set amount of time based on your level of warning.

A ban which is often temporary usually last anywhere from a few days to 3 months, a ban means you can't even login IIRC.

I think hashbaz posted somewhere explaining a lot of it once, like how the warning levels decrease etc.

Although moose is "muted" but essentially banned.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 01 November 2015, 00:33:24
While this is turning into an "ask the mods" thread, what does "muted" mean vs banned?

Muted usually means you just can't post for a set amount of time based on your level of warning.

A ban which is often temporary usually last anywhere from a few days to 3 months, a ban means you can't even login IIRC.

I think hashbaz posted somewhere explaining a lot of it once, like how the warning levels decrease etc.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60439.msg1395418#msg1395418
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: user 18 on Sun, 01 November 2015, 01:21:37
There are mods on this site?

Not really. There is only one that shows his face anymore. As I've said before, people become mods and then just hide or disappear and don't participate in the community.

I mean User 18 doesn't participate too much, but he still mods from time to time.

I've got an eye on things. I've just been busy with work and school recently, so I haven't had as much time to give to the community as I would like. I just naturally tend to listen more than I speak, and that extends to here. If I look back, I don't think I've become less active overall since becoming a mod, it's just that I never posted a ton to begin with.

If anyone ever wants to get in touch with me, I'm usually pretty good at responding to PMs, and I'd love to chat.

Overall, I have been very pleased with the moderators here and would not have any complaint at all except that they probably get paid too much.

I have never understood about who gets banned and why, but I cannot imagine that it is generally without cause.

Seriously, my only real irritation is the policy of classifieds not posting until approved. When I decide to sell something it is probably because I want the money for something else - so sooner rather than later. If I feel that it is desirable and priced to sell then it won't take long. I like to put it up here for a few hours at least before going to ebay. But there have been times that I listed something at noon and it still was not approved at 8:00pm. That is a problem if you are hoping to sell in a matter of hours and you don't even get it onto ebay until the next day.

I prefer short threads without a load of TL;DR but many (most) people just add and edit for current sales. I hate having to look back through 3 years and 400 posts to see the one thing that an active seller is actually selling today.

We don't get paid at all, we just volunteer our time.

Next time you put something up in classifieds, you can send me a PM, and I'll get it approved as soon as I can.

ILY!!! <3333

Lol I bet ya'll thought this was gonna be another one like the Binge Bro lol my bad letter.
In all seriousness though, despite how immature people can be sometimes around here, I feel like the moderation team is pretty much always on the ball, not letting their personal disputes get in the way of fair judgment. I've been on a lot of ****ty online forums, so it's refreshing to visit one that's not modded by like literal twelve-year-olds (I can't speak to most of your actual ages, but at least you don't behave like you're kids). Keep up the good work!  :thumb:

Thanks for this, I really appreciate the sentiment, even though I know it wasn't necessarily aimed at me specifically.

Also, the list shows Soarer as the moderator of the "Making Stuff Together" category, and I agree that he should be "honorary" moderator, but it would be good to know who actually does it, in case there was a question or direct request.


Moderation questions about MST should be directed to any global moderator. We don't have a lot of subforum moderators, other than giving artisans and vendors privileges in their specific subfora. Hoggy in Ergonomics is the only other one that comes to mind.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 01 November 2015, 03:13:03
One question, Did I get ip perma banned from the GH irc?
I tried logging into it from work the other day and it said I was banned. One mod there didn't like the fact I said '****' and then banned me when I asked what the rules where (as there where non listed)...
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 01 November 2015, 03:17:14
One question, Did I get ip perma banned from the GH irc?
I tried logging into it from work the other day and it said I was banned. One mod there didn't like the fact I said '****' and then banned me when I asked what the rules where (as there where non listed)...

GH IRC is totally separate from GH; we don't moderate there.  I think the main rule of IRC is to keep it SFW, so that might explain it.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 01 November 2015, 03:18:53
Yeah I know it's separate but someone mentioned a ban here carries over so I was wondering if you guys had any insight.
It was pretty random tho as other well know users where there using other rude words... Guess I just have a charm about me haha
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: njbair on Sun, 01 November 2015, 06:46:23
There are mods on this site?

Not really. There is only one that shows his face anymore. As I've said before, people become mods and then just hide or disappear and don't participate in the community.

I mean User 18 doesn't participate too much, but he still mods from time to time.

I've got an eye on things. I've just been busy with work and school recently, so I haven't had as much time to give to the community as I would like. I just naturally tend to listen more than I speak, and that extends to here. If I look back, I don't think I've become less active overall since becoming a mod, it's just that I never posted a ton to begin with.

If anyone ever wants to get in touch with me, I'm usually pretty good at responding to PMs, and I'd love to chat.

Overall, I have been very pleased with the moderators here and would not have any complaint at all except that they probably get paid too much.

I have never understood about who gets banned and why, but I cannot imagine that it is generally without cause.

Seriously, my only real irritation is the policy of classifieds not posting until approved. When I decide to sell something it is probably because I want the money for something else - so sooner rather than later. If I feel that it is desirable and priced to sell then it won't take long. I like to put it up here for a few hours at least before going to ebay. But there have been times that I listed something at noon and it still was not approved at 8:00pm. That is a problem if you are hoping to sell in a matter of hours and you don't even get it onto ebay until the next day.

I prefer short threads without a load of TL;DR but many (most) people just add and edit for current sales. I hate having to look back through 3 years and 400 posts to see the one thing that an active seller is actually selling today.

We don't get paid at all, we just volunteer our time.

Next time you put something up in classifieds, you can send me a PM, and I'll get it approved as soon as I can.

ILY!!! <3333

Lol I bet ya'll thought this was gonna be another one like the Binge Bro lol my bad letter.
In all seriousness though, despite how immature people can be sometimes around here, I feel like the moderation team is pretty much always on the ball, not letting their personal disputes get in the way of fair judgment. I've been on a lot of ****ty online forums, so it's refreshing to visit one that's not modded by like literal twelve-year-olds (I can't speak to most of your actual ages, but at least you don't behave like you're kids). Keep up the good work!  :thumb:

Thanks for this, I really appreciate the sentiment, even though I know it wasn't necessarily aimed at me specifically.

Also, the list shows Soarer as the moderator of the "Making Stuff Together" category, and I agree that he should be "honorary" moderator, but it would be good to know who actually does it, in case there was a question or direct request.


Moderation questions about MST should be directed to any global moderator. We don't have a lot of subforum moderators, other than giving artisans and vendors privileges in their specific subfora. Hoggy in Ergonomics is the only other one that comes to mind.
I can vouch for user 18. I often see his name in blue at the bottom of the homepage in the "who's online" section. And when my Alpine Winter GB thread was ready to go live it was user 18 who approved it, not that slacker Hoff.
Title: Re: Open letter to the moderators
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 November 2015, 07:57:40

We don't get paid at all, we just volunteer our time.


Of course I assumed that everyone knew that was a joke.

We should all be deeply appreciative of all your efforts.