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Title: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 15:10:02
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Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: openmiceagle on Mon, 02 November 2015, 15:58:06
Is this the keyboard that everyone is always raving about? This is a crazy deal?
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 November 2015, 15:59:00
Is this the keyboard that everyone is always raving about? This is a crazy deal?
Yes it is, now if only I could remember who was looking for the computer part to make something cool with it.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 16:09:47
Is this the keyboard that everyone is always raving about? This is a crazy deal?
Yes it is, now if only I could remember who was looking for the computer part to make something cool with it.
heedpantsnow was looking for a replacement LCD I think...
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 16:14:03
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Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: SamirD on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:14:27
Oooo...such a great system to throw 95 on and enter in some numbers in the field, haha. 

I could imagine carrying that into an accounting office...

But it's very retro-cool.  Great to see that it still boots up.  Too bad they wiped the network analyzer software.  Would have been worth more to me that way.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:17:15
Still looking for a screen or just the cold cathode tubes that light the screen...I would be happy to split this with someone...
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:33:50
I'm surprised this is still up.  Awesome caps and awesome switches.  I hate Blues, but the "vintage" Blues on the Dolch Pac feel great and have a much nicer sounding (less harsh) click to them.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:34:43
I've got the money in my PayPal but I know I'll just end up wanting to sell it later.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: neverused on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:42:27
Still looking for a screen or just the cold cathode tubes that light the screen...I would be happy to split this with someone...
Pm'd
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:44:51
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Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:49:04
****....I want this just to keep it together as a secondary computer. I want to play with a whole unit so bad.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:50:19
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Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:51:09
Alienman82....bro, you're not helping the budget. Why would you say these things. Please heedpantsnow, grab this before I do.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:52:53
****....I want this just to keep it together as a secondary computer. I want to play with a whole unit so bad.

Hue Hue Hue
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: neverused on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:55:48
Alienman82....bro, you're not helping the budget. Why would you say these things. Please heedpantsnow, grab this before I do.
I pm'd him about splitting it up but no reply so far.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:56:12
Alienman82....bro, you're not helping the budget. Why would you say these things. Please heedpantsnow, grab this before I do.

I can't bro, I'm on a budget too right now.  Not fun. :P
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:05:14
Alienman82....bro, you're not helping the budget. Why would you say these things. Please heedpantsnow, grab this before I do.

I can't bro, I'm on a budget too right now.  Not fun. :P

**** it, I got it.  Proxying the kb for kokokoy in Singapore, keeping the rest of it for my son to learn to hack on.

Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: kokokoy on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:05:51
Thanks mate! Sweet!
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:06:25
heedpantsnow came through for me. Thank you for keeping my budget intact. I will repay you the favor next time. Maybe I'll score a Dolch Pac too.

And that's awesome you're gonna teach your son to hack stuff <3
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:06:31
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Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:07:36
Alienman82....bro, you're not helping the budget. Why would you say these things. Please heedpantsnow, grab this before I do.

I can't bro, I'm on a budget too right now.  Not fun. :P

**** it, I got it.  Proxying the kb for kokokoy in Singapore, keeping the rest of it for my son to learn to hack on.
What a guy. That's one lucky kid. :D
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:09:57
Alienman82....bro, you're not helping the budget. Why would you say these things. Please heedpantsnow, grab this before I do.

I can't bro, I'm on a budget too right now.  Not fun. :P

**** it, I got it.  Proxying the kb for kokokoy in Singapore, keeping the rest of it for my son to learn to hack on.

Cool let me know if you want those drives for it.

Thank you, I appreciate it.  I'm going to see how it arrives first.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:12:27
Alienman82....bro, you're not helping the budget. Why would you say these things. Please heedpantsnow, grab this before I do.

I can't bro, I'm on a budget too right now.  Not fun. :P

**** it, I got it.  Proxying the kb for kokokoy in Singapore, keeping the rest of it for my son to learn to hack on.
What a guy. That's one lucky kid. :D

I gotta seize the opportunity to do sth right in my kids' lives; I screw them up in so many other ways. :-/
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: SamirD on Tue, 03 November 2015, 09:43:30
Glad this went to a good home. :)

Does it have an external vga port so the one with the ccft tube issue can still be used?
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 November 2015, 09:47:09
I would buy it just to grab that nice OG Dolch set, I missed it.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: njbair on Tue, 03 November 2015, 09:51:21
I can't believe how long that went un-bought. Glad it's going to a Geekhacker's home. I spent waaaaay more than this on my Dolch PAC keyboard, and I even asked the seller to keep the computer part and just ship the board to get a break on shipping.

And for those who don't know, yes, this really is the board everyone raves about. The "vintage" blues are excellent with the OG Cherry doubleshots. I have lent my Dolch PAC out to two people who ended up getting sucked into the mechanical keyboard world as a direct result.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 November 2015, 09:54:36
I can't believe how long that went un-bought. Glad it's going to a Geekhacker's home. I spent waaaaay more than this on my Dolch PAC keyboard, and I even asked the seller to keep the computer part and just ship the board to get a break on shipping.

And for those who don't know, yes, this really is the board everyone raves about. The "vintage" blues are excellent with the OG Cherry doubleshots. I have lent my Dolch PAC out to two people who ended up getting sucked into the mechanical keyboard world as a direct result.

I have not tried vintage blues yet, as I do not like blues at all, but I will, just because of your comment.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 03 November 2015, 09:58:59
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Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: My_Thoughts on Tue, 03 November 2015, 10:16:34
Oooo...such a great system to throw 95 on and enter in some numbers in the field, haha. 

I could imagine carrying that into an accounting office...

But it's very retro-cool.  Great to see that it still boots up.  Too bad they wiped the network analyzer software.  Would have been worth more to me that way.

Would it be able to do analysing I wonder?  It has no v6 knowledge or probably netflow but it would be good to see how it compares to wireshark.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 03 November 2015, 10:19:08
Glad this went to a good home. :)

Does it have an external vga port so the one with the ccft tube issue can still be used?

The one I already have and this one both have the VGA port.  This one's disk/OS is corrupted, so I will either transplant the HDD from the one I have with the dark display or ask Alienman for his disks.  Shouldn't be a big issue.  What I'm mainly concerned about is all those fun quirks from the early days...ISA port conflicts, soundblaster compatible not compatible, DMA issues, etc.  LOL.  Really brings back the memories.

Also guys pls keep an eye out for another one of these for neverused.  He PM'd me when I was already working it out with kokokoy so he's still looking for one.

For neverused, and anyone else who is interested in these, here are some useful links (basically steer clear of models with the trackpad and/or low profile caps):
Deskthority wiki on Dolch PAC's (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813)
Another thread on Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/dolch-pac-keyboard-t100.html)
A great thread on GH about Dolch PAC's (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9033.0)

Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 03 November 2015, 10:23:01
Oooo...such a great system to throw 95 on and enter in some numbers in the field, haha. 

I could imagine carrying that into an accounting office...

But it's very retro-cool.  Great to see that it still boots up.  Too bad they wiped the network analyzer software.  Would have been worth more to me that way.

Would it be able to do analysing I wonder?  It has no v6 knowledge or probably netflow but it would be good to see how it compares to wireshark.

On modern networks, no.  But the insurance and investments company I worked at a long time ago was still running a token ring network with terminals and an old IBM RS series server.  When you pay lots of $$$$$ for custom software and all your data is in it you tend to make interesting decisions regarding network upgrades and such.

After my son grows out of DOS we will probably hack an ITX mobo into this.  Those card slots might come in handy!
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 03 November 2015, 11:52:09
In mine the battery had leaked, and that acid had burned through the harddrive and the metal bottom of the case.
So I took it all apart ... and then noticed that I did not know how to reconnect the wires again.
If you do take it apart, do take photographs or drawings of everything you disconnect!
Title: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 03 November 2015, 12:01:36
In mine the battery had leaked, and that acid had burned through the harddrive and the metal bottom of the case.
So I took it all apart ... and then noticed that I did not know how to reconnect the wires again.
If you do take it apart, do take photographs or drawings of everything you disconnect!

Ok I will try to remember that.

Edit: and obviously post here for others' reference.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 03 November 2015, 12:31:44
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Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: njbair on Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:23:17
After my son grows out of DOS

I always thought DOS was something you grow into?
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:25:48

After my son grows out of DOS

I always thought DOS was something you grow into?

I want to start him in dos, so he can understand what is underneath the pretty gui of his phone/computer/tablet. Closer to the hardware. Closer to the filesystem.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: njbair on Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:27:08

After my son grows out of DOS

I always thought DOS was something you grow into?

I want to start him in dos, so he can understand what is underneath the pretty gui of his phone/computer/tablet. Closer to the hardware. Closer to the filesystem.

Makes sense. Then when he outgrows capitalism you can move him to the Linux shell!
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: pyrolovesmoney on Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:27:23
It's been months and I finally know where the dolch color scheme comes from. Now I need to find a commodore color scheme.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: SamirD on Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:48:20
Oooo...such a great system to throw 95 on and enter in some numbers in the field, haha. 

I could imagine carrying that into an accounting office...

But it's very retro-cool.  Great to see that it still boots up.  Too bad they wiped the network analyzer software.  Would have been worth more to me that way.

Would it be able to do analysing I wonder?  It has no v6 knowledge or probably netflow but it would be good to see how it compares to wireshark.
I don't know what the original did so it's hard to say.  I would think it would probably analyze 10base-2/10-base-5/10-base-T/Arcnet and some others that were available back in the day.
Glad this went to a good home. :)

Does it have an external vga port so the one with the ccft tube issue can still be used?

The one I already have and this one both have the VGA port.  This one's disk/OS is corrupted, so I will either transplant the HDD from the one I have with the dark display or ask Alienman for his disks.  Shouldn't be a big issue.  What I'm mainly concerned about is all those fun quirks from the early days...ISA port conflicts, soundblaster compatible not compatible, DMA issues, etc.  LOL.  Really brings back the memories.

Also guys pls keep an eye out for another one of these for neverused.  He PM'd me when I was already working it out with kokokoy so he's still looking for one.

For neverused, and anyone else who is interested in these, here are some useful links (basically steer clear of models with the trackpad and/or low profile caps):
Deskthority wiki on Dolch PAC's (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813)
Another thread on Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/dolch-pac-keyboard-t100.html)
A great thread on GH about Dolch PAC's (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9033.0)


Ah yes, IRQs, interrupts, and all that fun jazz before plug and play actually worked correctly.  The beauty was that when it worked, it always worked.  :cool:

Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: neverused on Tue, 03 November 2015, 15:07:27
Glad this went to a good home. :)

Does it have an external vga port so the one with the ccft tube issue can still be used?

The one I already have and this one both have the VGA port.  This one's disk/OS is corrupted, so I will either transplant the HDD from the one I have with the dark display or ask Alienman for his disks.  Shouldn't be a big issue.  What I'm mainly concerned about is all those fun quirks from the early days...ISA port conflicts, soundblaster compatible not compatible, DMA issues, etc.  LOL.  Really brings back the memories.

Also guys pls keep an eye out for another one of these for neverused.  He PM'd me when I was already working it out with kokokoy so he's still looking for one.

For neverused, and anyone else who is interested in these, here are some useful links (basically steer clear of models with the trackpad and/or low profile caps):
Deskthority wiki on Dolch PAC's (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813)
Another thread on Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/dolch-pac-keyboard-t100.html)
A great thread on GH about Dolch PAC's (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9033.0)
Thank you sir!
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 November 2015, 15:09:18
If anyone finds another complete one like this, I'm interested in the analyzer part. I already have the keyboard. :)
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: neverused on Tue, 03 November 2015, 15:10:26
If anyone finds another complete one like this, I'm interested in the analyzer part. I already have the keyboard. :)
If you find one, I'll be happy to do that split with you.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 November 2015, 15:11:10
If anyone finds another complete one like this, I'm interested in the analyzer part. I already have the keyboard. :)
If you find one, I'll be happy to do that split with you.

Awesome, thank you.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: neverused on Tue, 03 November 2015, 15:14:05
If anyone finds another complete one like this, I'm interested in the analyzer part. I already have the keyboard. :)
If you find one, I'll be happy to do that split with you.

Awesome, thank you.
To be fair though, is like mx cherry and ansi in case other options come up
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 November 2015, 15:15:04
If anyone finds another complete one like this, I'm interested in the analyzer part. I already have the keyboard. :)
If you find one, I'll be happy to do that split with you.

Awesome, thank you.
To be fair though, is like mx cherry and ansi in case other options come up

Yeah, I will only be looking for the ones with MX blues, and no ISO.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: neverused on Tue, 03 November 2015, 16:23:31
If anyone finds another complete one like this, I'm interested in the analyzer part. I already have the keyboard. :)
If you find one, I'll be happy to do that split with you.

Awesome, thank you.
To be fair though, is like mx cherry and ansi in case other options come up

Yeah, I will only be looking for the ones with MX blues, and no ISO.
Sounds like a plan! Thanks
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: kokokoy on Sun, 29 November 2015, 05:18:30
Just saw this today

http://m.ebay.com.sg/itm/172012203237

Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 29 November 2015, 08:19:31

If anyone finds another complete one like this, I'm interested in the analyzer part. I already have the keyboard. :)
If you find one, I'll be happy to do that split with you.

Awesome, thank you.
To be fair though, is like mx cherry and ansi in case other options come up

Yeah, I will only be looking for the ones with MX blues, and no ISO.
Sounds like a plan! Thanks
Just saw this today

http://m.ebay.com.sg/itm/172012203237

Neverused, just wanted to make sure you saw Kokokoy's link
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: neverused on Sun, 29 November 2015, 08:26:40

If anyone finds another complete one like this, I'm interested in the analyzer part. I already have the keyboard. :)
If you find one, I'll be happy to do that split with you.

Awesome, thank you.
To be fair though, is like mx cherry and ansi in case other options come up

Yeah, I will only be looking for the ones with MX blues, and no ISO.
Sounds like a plan! Thanks
Just saw this today

http://m.ebay.com.sg/itm/172012203237

Neverused, just wanted to make sure you saw Kokokoy's link
Thank you, I'll have to see what jdcarpe thinks as I had committed to splitting a system with him and this one doesn't seem to be in working order.
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 29 November 2015, 17:15:29
I wonder if you could change the innards of the PAC and turn it into a portable gaming powerhouse...
Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: SamirD on Mon, 30 November 2015, 12:44:48
I wonder if you could change the innards of the PAC and turn it into a portable gaming powerhouse...
I don't see why not.  The only thing that might be really hard is getting a large enough power supply.

Title: Re: Dolch Pac 64 Complete PC - $100 Shipped
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 30 November 2015, 13:19:29

I wonder if you could change the innards of the PAC and turn it into a portable gaming powerhouse...

You'll have to replace the screen and PSU as well. Not super hard, but takes some fabrication.

I'm going to be using mine with DOS for a while for my son. When he gets older, we will do what you are talking about. ITX probably.