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Title: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: Willyc277 on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:08:55
I started entering Bro Caps sales about a year ago. After I missed out on the first 3 or 4 I entered I started trashing Bro on Reddit and on GH. I was having girl troubles and took it out on a guy who makes keycaps that I'll never meet. I blamed the system. I blamed the fabled "blacklist." I blamed all of the people who did win who were obviously just more connected than I was. I openly talked s*** about Bro and his work because I was salty about not winning. Bro respectfully called me on it a few times and I just (mistakenly) chalked it up to him being some smug a$$hole that only sold his caps to his friends. I wanted to believe that I wasn't winning because Bro didn't like me; it was somehow easier than chalking it up to pure luck.



I entered the last few sales out of spite knowing that I wouldn't win. This morning I woke up to an email from Bro saying I'd won. Instead of being elated, I felt ashamed. I felt ashamed for all the times I talked s***.  I was sick with myself for getting my Jimmies so rustled that I attacked a guy online over nothing. I spent months alienating myself from 2 communities that I enjoy very much over nothing. If there was a blacklist, I would have (rightfully) been on it months ago.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: dante on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:09:54
Jesus son, it's only plastic...
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:12:57
This takes courage to admit and I have a lot of admiration for your courage. And it's good to know that there is no blacklist so people don't get so worked out over not getting sales.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:13:54
Well there's a post I never thought I'd read.  Props to you for posting this publicly, that earns my respect.  :thumb:

This certainly explains your overly salty posts that seemed entirely unjustified.  :))

Hope everything is going better for you and you're having a better time both on the forums and off.  :)
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: Willyc277 on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:15:21
Jesus son, it's only plastic...

I get that, but when you're depressed you'll go looking for things to place the blame on.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: dante on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:15:59
Jesus son, it's only plastic...

I get that, but when you're depressed you'll go looking for things to place the blame on.

Do what everyone does - blame it on Obama.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:18:46
Wow it takes a big man to admit he's wrong. Good job bro. Like Hoff said, respect.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: whmeltonjr on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:19:14
Jesus son, it's only plastic...

I get that, but when you're depressed you'll go looking for things to place the blame on.

Do what everyone does - blame it on Obama.

Thanks Obama.

Kudos to you OP for admitting all of that. Takes some stones to man up and admit you're wrong, especially by starting a thread that will certainly get a lot of views.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:26:40
Like most people said, big kudos to you, dood. It really does take a huuuuge amount of courage to eat your own words and apologize. Not only that, you were willing to expose your weakened state and confront the issues that you had in a realistic and rational demeanor. I don't know if I would have been able to do the same thing in your situation.

It's never too late to apologize to the one you wronged, and even to just yourself.

(http://i.imgur.com/guUmXME.gif)
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: njbair on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:26:47
Thanks, Brobama.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:28:14
Jesus son, it's only plastic...

I get that, but when you're depressed you'll go looking for things to place the blame on.

Do what everyone does - blame it on Obama.
I didn't even read anything and I blame Obama.

Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: njbair on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:38:07
(http://imgur.com/uIy67uk.gif)
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: SunPanda on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:44:46
Why is everyone ****ting on Obama, he is an amazing president.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: Karura on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:49:35
Does anyone still remember when this forum was about keyboards, novelty keycaps, and sharing DIY guides on how to mod and customize our keyboards?

I'm happy to see your post, and hope you will continue to have good luck towards future sales. ;)
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: Willyc277 on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:50:33
Well there's a post I never thought I'd read.  Props to you for posting this publicly, that earns my respect.  :thumb:

This certainly explains your overly salty posts that seemed entirely unjustified.  :))

Hope everything is going better for you and you're having a better time both on the forums and off.  :)

Thanks Hoff. Things are absolutely fabulous for me now and with that came the realization that it's time to stop lashing out at others when I'm bummed out. I've spent the last few months mending relationships in my personal life and when I got the email today I realized that I needed to make amends here. I'm 25. I haven't been as happy as I am now since I was 16 back in 2006.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:52:03
Does anyone still remember when this forum was about keyboards, novelty keycaps, and sharing DIY guides on how to mod and customize our keyboards?

What are keyboards

Is that where all these robots are supposed to sleep
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: bcredbottle on Wed, 04 November 2015, 22:09:58
GH is a pretty forgiving place if you're humble and give other users the benefit of the doubt.

The board is ostensibly about keyboards but IMO it's really just a safe environment for selfish manchilds (menchildren?) to learn basic life skills: emotional maturity,1 budgeting, etc. Results are mixed but often uplifting.

1 First-come first-serve artisan sales, for example, are the ultimate test.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 04 November 2015, 23:24:08
been there dude, but with clacks.
i was convinced there was some huge clackspiracy
almost 2 years with no wins, **** was bananas
then one day i won a bunch of clacks

tru story
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 04 November 2015, 23:37:23
GH is a pretty forgiving place if you're humble and give other users the benefit of the doubt.

The board is ostensibly about keyboards but IMO it's really just a safe environment for selfish manchilds (menchildren?) to learn basic life skills: emotional maturity,1 budgeting, etc. Results are mixed but often uplifting.

1 First-come first-serve artisan sales, for example, are the ultimate test.

And we will also call you out on your **** when you are being a douchebag.

I can give you two examples:

1. Pacifist. Dude screws up, comes back and breaks rules he was specifically warned about. Gets permabanned. Keeps attempting to come back and start over, but by creating new accounts to hide his identity. BAD PACIFIST.

2. Rarar. This guy acts the fool and is generally an ass. Gets called out and muted. Takes a break from GH. Comes back to say hi, mostly mild reactions. Comes back again, welcomed back by forum members. GOOD RARAR.


Good on ya, OP, for growing up and admitting your fault.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 05 November 2015, 00:05:41
Stout fellow!
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: Karura on Thu, 05 November 2015, 00:56:51
Is that where all these robots are supposed to sleep

That's what the robots what you to think. They come alive at night, and spend the money from your wallet to create more of them!
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 05 November 2015, 01:03:47
Props for coming out and saying that - most people would rather hide in the shadows and try to secretly create a new identity
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 05 November 2015, 01:11:50
Jesus son, it's only plastic...
I laughed way too much over this... So good...

Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 05 November 2015, 01:38:07
 :thumb:
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 05 November 2015, 02:53:04
personal growth
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: GenKaan on Thu, 05 November 2015, 04:44:24
I like the idea of a naughty list too much to give it up!
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 05 November 2015, 05:40:43
personal growth
Bunny knows.
This is cool though, for real.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 November 2015, 06:20:33
OP:

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(https://i.warosu.org/data/cgl/img/0063/07/1350102527312.jpg)
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 05 November 2015, 06:28:43

OP:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/f9FW2.gif)


Is this supposed to be funny?
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 November 2015, 06:43:59

OP:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/f9FW2.gif)


Is this supposed to be funny?
I was more going for abrasive jest, with a side of ad hominem attack.

"I complain loudly about things I want until I get them, and then I feel sorry" doesn't really resonate with me.

But kudos to Bro for being a bigger person than me.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 05 November 2015, 06:48:03
Good on you OP.
It takes courage to admit publicy that you were wrong.
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 05 November 2015, 06:51:02


OP:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/f9FW2.gif)


Is this supposed to be funny?
I was more going for abrasive jest, with a side of ad hominem attack.

"I complain loudly about things I want until I get them, and then I feel sorry" doesn't really resonate with me.

But kudos to Bro for being a bigger person than me.

Ok bro, yours (and everyone else's) opinion matters. But please please do not make fun of "retarded" people in the course of sharing your opinion. I'm not trying to start drama, just a humble request to be a tiny bit more sensitive about that. Thank you.
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 November 2015, 06:56:25




OP:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/f9FW2.gif)


Is this supposed to be funny?
I was more going for abrasive jest, with a side of ad hominem attack.

"I complain loudly about things I want until I get them, and then I feel sorry" doesn't really resonate with me.

But kudos to Bro for being a bigger person than me.

Ok bro, yours (and everyone else's) opinion matters. But please please do not make fun of "retarded" people in the course of sharing your opinion. I'm not trying to start drama, just a humble request to be a tiny bit more sensitive about that. Thank you.

Point taken, totally meant no disrespect to people with cognitivite disabilities. GIF I posted is a cultural reference, but was poorly chosen in hindsight.
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 05 November 2015, 06:57:35





OP:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/f9FW2.gif)


Is this supposed to be funny?
I was more going for abrasive jest, with a side of ad hominem attack.

"I complain loudly about things I want until I get them, and then I feel sorry" doesn't really resonate with me.

But kudos to Bro for being a bigger person than me.

Ok bro, yours (and everyone else's) opinion matters. But please please do not make fun of "retarded" people in the course of sharing your opinion. I'm not trying to start drama, just a humble request to be a tiny bit more sensitive about that. Thank you.

Point taken, totally meant no disrespect to people with cognitivite disabilities. GIF I posted is a cultural reference, but was poorly chosen in hindsight.

No problem, I do worse than that on a regular basis
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 November 2015, 07:00:06

No problem, I do worse than that on a regular basis

Replaced with something less offensive to everyone else but OP.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: saturnotaku on Thu, 05 November 2015, 07:00:49
I entered the last few sales out of spite knowing that I wouldn't win. This morning I woke up to an email from Bro saying I'd won. Instead of being elated, I felt ashamed. I felt ashamed for all the times I talked s***.  I was sick with myself for getting my Jimmies so rustled that I attacked a guy online over nothing. I spent months alienating myself from 2 communities that I enjoy very much over nothing. If there was a blacklist, I would have (rightfully) been on it months ago.

A good first step. If you truly wish to clear your conscience, I humbly suggest that you either: 1) Message Bro and tell him to award your cap to someone else or 2) Pay and receive your cap, then immediately turn around and sell it for your cost to someone else.

After that, I don't think you should be banned from future sales, but in this instance, actions need to speak louder than words.
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 November 2015, 07:03:08
I entered the last few sales out of spite knowing that I wouldn't win. This morning I woke up to an email from Bro saying I'd won. Instead of being elated, I felt ashamed. I felt ashamed for all the times I talked s***.  I was sick with myself for getting my Jimmies so rustled that I attacked a guy online over nothing. I spent months alienating myself from 2 communities that I enjoy very much over nothing. If there was a blacklist, I would have (rightfully) been on it months ago.

A good first step. If you truly wish to clear your conscience, I humbly suggest that you either: 1) Message Bro and tell him to award your cap to someone else or 2) Pay and receive your cap, then immediately turn around and sell it for your cost to someone else.

After that, I don't think you should be banned from future sales, but in this instance, actions need to speak louder than words.
Sinner! Repent!

(OP don't do this, just be nicer next time and move on)
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: saturnotaku on Thu, 05 November 2015, 07:08:59
All I'm saying is to let the OP's conscience be his guide.
Title: Re: &quot;I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist&quot;
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 05 November 2015, 07:11:21

I entered the last few sales out of spite knowing that I wouldn't win. This morning I woke up to an email from Bro saying I'd won. Instead of being elated, I felt ashamed. I felt ashamed for all the times I talked s***.  I was sick with myself for getting my Jimmies so rustled that I attacked a guy online over nothing. I spent months alienating myself from 2 communities that I enjoy very much over nothing. If there was a blacklist, I would have (rightfully) been on it months ago.

A good first step. If you truly wish to clear your conscience, I humbly suggest that you either: 1) Message Bro and tell him to award your cap to someone else or 2) Pay and receive your cap, then immediately turn around and sell it for your cost to someone else.

After that, I don't think you should be banned from future sales, but in this instance, actions need to speak louder than words.
Sinner! Repent!

(OP don't do this, just be nicer next time and move on)

Saturn, aren't you forgetting something?  Aren't you going to require seppuku after he gives all his artisans away?

(OP, I agree with pr0ximity)
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 05 November 2015, 07:30:35
GH is a pretty forgiving place if you're humble and give other users the benefit of the doubt.

The board is ostensibly about keyboards but IMO it's really just a safe environment for selfish manchilds (menchildren?) to learn basic life skills: emotional maturity,1 budgeting, etc. Results are mixed but often uplifting.

1 First-come first-serve artisan sales, for example, are the ultimate test.

And we will also call you out on your **** when you are being a douchebag.

I can give you two examples:

1. Pacifist. Dude screws up, comes back and breaks rules he was specifically warned about. Gets permabanned. Keeps attempting to come back and start over, but by creating new accounts to hide his identity. BAD PACIFIST.

2. Rarar. This guy acts the fool and is generally an ass. Gets called out and muted. Takes a break from GH. Comes back to say hi, mostly mild reactions. Comes back again, welcomed back by forum members. GOOD RARAR.


Good on ya, OP, for growing up and admitting your fault.

I typically don't get into geek-hack drama.

But why is demik allowed to post his tasteless post and only keeps getting hand smacks.

probably not the best spot to ask this.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 05 November 2015, 08:25:17
Careful, don't post his name three times... I've seen beetlejuice
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 05 November 2015, 09:03:16
GH is a pretty forgiving place if you're humble and give other users the benefit of the doubt.

The board is ostensibly about keyboards but IMO it's really just a safe environment for selfish manchilds (menchildren?) to learn basic life skills: emotional maturity,1 budgeting, etc. Results are mixed but often uplifting.

1 First-come first-serve artisan sales, for example, are the ultimate test.

And we will also call you out on your **** when you are being a douchebag.

I can give you two examples:

1. Pacifist. Dude screws up, comes back and breaks rules he was specifically warned about. Gets permabanned. Keeps attempting to come back and start over, but by creating new accounts to hide his identity. BAD PACIFIST.

2. Rarar. This guy acts the fool and is generally an ass. Gets called out and muted. Takes a break from GH. Comes back to say hi, mostly mild reactions. Comes back again, welcomed back by forum members. GOOD RARAR.


Good on ya, OP, for growing up and admitting your fault.

I typically don't get into geek-hack drama.

But why is demik allowed to post his tasteless post and only keeps getting hand smacks.

probably not the best spot to ask this.

Pacifist and demik broke different rules in different fashions, so not really a direct comparison.  I cannot comment on rarar since that was before my time as a mod.

Might not be the best spot, but meh.  If you want to chat more about it, feel free to drop me a PM.  :thumb:
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 05 November 2015, 09:10:40
I've still never won a bro so it's okay
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: KippHuntress on Thu, 05 November 2015, 09:11:12
I've still never won a bro so it's okay

(http://i.imgur.com/HbTPTKk.gif)
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: romevi on Thu, 05 November 2015, 09:48:13
So Bro is a Bro...

And Bunny too.


Honestly, because of my many years browsing and being accustomed to many other forums and image boards, I was expecting a lashing against OP of sorts. I'm surprised by the overflow of positive comments, although I really shouldn't be.
Perhaps I finally may have found a forum "home"...
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: mobbo on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:14:47
This is a good kind of open letter. Where someone realizes that the cognitive dissonance they feel towards these issues resides in themselves - and not some guy who makes plastic caps halfway across the world that they have never met.
Title: Re: "I'm Sorry Bro Caps: or, There's No Blacklist"
Post by: kebby on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:29:11
Honestly, because of my many years browsing and being accustomed to many other forums and image boards, I was expecting a lashing against OP of sorts. I'm surprised by the overflow of positive comments, although I really shouldn't be.
Perhaps I finally may have found a forum "home"...

You almost never see people willing to admit their mistakes publicly and apologise like this with no outside pressure to do it. Even if it was triggered by winning a bro, many people wouldn't come out and admit it like this I think.