Vegetarians are lame anyways
Vegetarians are lame anyways
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Vegetarians are lame anyways
Vegetarians are lame anyways
Vegetarians are lame anyways
Have you seen the amazing **** Boop(!) comes up with on instagram? Makes me want to eat veggies all the time.
Bad news for vegetarians! Plants can ‘hear’ themselves being eaten...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2677858/Bad-news-vegetarians-Plants-hear-eaten.html
Vegetarians are lame anyways
Have you seen the amazing **** Boop(!) comes up with on instagram? Makes me want to eat veggies all the time.
Nope. Why have fake meat when the real one is readily available. Plus I'm not a rabbit.
Vegetarians are lame anyways
Have you seen the amazing **** Boop(!) comes up with on instagram? Makes me want to eat veggies all the time.
Nope. Why have fake meat when the real one is readily available. Plus I'm not a rabbit.
Vegetarians are lame anyways
Have you seen the amazing **** Boop(!) comes up with on instagram? Makes me want to eat veggies all the time.
Nope. Why have fake meat when the real one is readily available. Plus I'm not a rabbit.
I don't really eat fake meat! I also dont have a rabbit diet! Rabbits eat grass, hay and leafy greens of veggies mostly. I do not eat grass!
Vegetarians are lame anyways
Have you seen the amazing **** Boop(!) comes up with on instagram? Makes me want to eat veggies all the time.
Nope. Why have fake meat when the real one is readily available. Plus I'm not a rabbit.
I don't even think I've ever seen her use a meat replacement type of product. Her artistic talents just make some random veggies and **** I always eat as sides into magnificent appealing full dishes.
I need her to teach me how to make a dope website, take amazing pictures, write with a fountain pen, cook, and more. Somuch2learn.
Vegetarians are lame anyways
Have you seen the amazing **** Boop(!) comes up with on instagram? Makes me want to eat veggies all the time.
Nope. Why have fake meat when the real one is readily available. Plus I'm not a rabbit.
I don't really eat fake meat! I also dont have a rabbit diet! Rabbits eat grass, hay and leafy greens of veggies mostly. I do not eat grass!
Carrots? Rabbit confirmed!
;~; Cuteness award for today goes to Mr/Mrs Fluffles, whats its name and why isn't think in the Just post Awww thread its late its late its very very late, needs a little waist coat :3Vegetarians are lame anyways
Have you seen the amazing **** Boop(!) comes up with on instagram? Makes me want to eat veggies all the time.
Nope. Why have fake meat when the real one is readily available. Plus I'm not a rabbit.
I don't really eat fake meat! I also dont have a rabbit diet! Rabbits eat grass, hay and leafy greens of veggies mostly. I do not eat grass!
Carrots? Rabbit confirmed!
The leafy tops are what rabbits eat mostly
Carrots are treats! Found that out when I had this guy -Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dMi7y.jpg)
But its not like your eating lettuce thats still in the ground, by the time it gets to you its already been killed....errr I mean harvested.That's it! We need free range lettuce.
I guess now the question is are our veggies being harvested humanely?
Maybe we should play some Mozart as the combines roll out.
That rabbit looks concerned. You're eating all his food ;_;Vegetarians are lame anyways
Have you seen the amazing **** Boop(!) comes up with on instagram? Makes me want to eat veggies all the time.
Nope. Why have fake meat when the real one is readily available. Plus I'm not a rabbit.
I don't really eat fake meat! I also dont have a rabbit diet! Rabbits eat grass, hay and leafy greens of veggies mostly. I do not eat grass!
Carrots? Rabbit confirmed!
The leafy tops are what rabbits eat mostly
Carrots are treats! Found that out when I had this guy -Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dMi7y.jpg)
That rabbit looks concerned. You're eating all his food ;_;
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
;~; Cuteness award for today goes to Mr/Mrs Fluffles, whats its name and why isn't think in the Just post Awww thread its late its late its very very late, needs a little waist coat :3
But its not like your eating lettuce thats still in the ground, by the time it gets to you its already been killed....errr I mean harvested.
I guess now the question is are our veggies being harvested humanely?
Maybe we should play some Mozart as the combines roll out.
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I'm telling you, if you follow Booper (!) on instagram, she makes it actually look enjoyable. Hehe
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I was a vegetarian from about 10 to about 28 years old and then I got pregnant. I caved and ate chicken, those pregnancy hormones demanded it. I didn't go back once I became un-pregnant. But I still don't eat any red meat/pork/seafood/anything else. Just chicken. My husband eats no meat of any kind at all. He eats mostly pizza though, not nearly enough vegetables.
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I'm telling you, if you follow Booper (!) on instagram, she makes it actually look enjoyable. Hehe
I've switched to only clear foods.
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I was a vegetarian from about 10 to about 28 years old and then I got pregnant. I caved and ate chicken, those pregnancy hormones demanded it. I didn't go back once I became un-pregnant. But I still don't eat any red meat/pork/seafood/anything else. Just chicken. My husband eats no meat of any kind at all. He eats mostly pizza though, not nearly enough vegetables.
Your avatar is making me hungry. I bet that thing tastes wonderful.
As a Mexican, I am offended by this. This should be greasy and make me hate myself after I eat it. Not be healthy and still make me hate myself after I eat it.I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I'm telling you, if you follow Booper (!) on instagram, she makes it actually look enjoyable. Hehe
LOOKS enjoyable!? psssh. it IS enjoyable! ;D
I did tempura fried acorn squash tacos like 2 nights ago that are some of the most delicious tacos I've ever had. There is SO MUCH MORE FOOD out there than just steak/chicken/pork!Show Image(https://scontent-dfw1-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpt1/12224289_1634004843528865_1530811196_n.jpg)
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I was a vegetarian from about 10 to about 28 years old and then I got pregnant. I caved and ate chicken, those pregnancy hormones demanded it. I didn't go back once I became un-pregnant. But I still don't eat any red meat/pork/seafood/anything else. Just chicken. My husband eats no meat of any kind at all. He eats mostly pizza though, not nearly enough vegetables.
As a Mexican, I am offended by this. This should be greasy and make me hate myself after I eat it. Not be healthy and still make me hate myself after I eat it.I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I'm telling you, if you follow Booper (!) on instagram, she makes it actually look enjoyable. Hehe
LOOKS enjoyable!? psssh. it IS enjoyable! ;D
I did tempura fried acorn squash tacos like 2 nights ago that are some of the most delicious tacos I've ever had. There is SO MUCH MORE FOOD out there than just steak/chicken/pork!Show Image(https://scontent-dfw1-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpt1/12224289_1634004843528865_1530811196_n.jpg)
I have always wondered...Kill that mofo. I'll raid the garbage out of any bug. No skin off my teeth. If you find a mouse in your house tho, you catch it and release it someplace outside, not near your house.
You are vegetarian or vegan and a giant monster of a mosquito is sunk into your arm. What do you do?
Damn it booper stop being so convincing ;_;I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I was a vegetarian from about 10 to about 28 years old and then I got pregnant. I caved and ate chicken, those pregnancy hormones demanded it. I didn't go back once I became un-pregnant. But I still don't eat any red meat/pork/seafood/anything else. Just chicken. My husband eats no meat of any kind at all. He eats mostly pizza though, not nearly enough vegetables.
Yea, I've heard pregnancy can do all kinds of crazy things to your tastes! If you need it, eat it, though! It's better to be healthy and happy than to go without something your body needs. I know quite a few people who have gone from hardcore meat eaters to cutting back on red meats dramaticly and eating more veg. I think USA in particular just got kinda crazy about pushing MEAT MEAT MEAT as a meal and I was on that train most of my life too! Didn't turn veg until my twenties.
And you can't go wrong with pizza! :pAs a Mexican, I am offended by this. This should be greasy and make me hate myself after I eat it. Not be healthy and still make me hate myself after I eat it.I'm pretty sure I remember reading that 83% of vegetarians revert back to eating meat at some point in your life. It's a lifestyle that I could never live, I love my steaks too much to pass up. I give all the props to Vegans, I don't know how I could live being a vegan. :p
I'm telling you, if you follow Booper (!) on instagram, she makes it actually look enjoyable. Hehe
LOOKS enjoyable!? psssh. it IS enjoyable! ;D
I did tempura fried acorn squash tacos like 2 nights ago that are some of the most delicious tacos I've ever had. There is SO MUCH MORE FOOD out there than just steak/chicken/pork!Show Image(https://scontent-dfw1-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpt1/12224289_1634004843528865_1530811196_n.jpg)
Just because it's vegetarian doesn't mean it's always healthy! It's still fried and fairly greasy and had a nice, fatty, tasty sauce!
I have always wondered...
You are vegetarian or vegan and a giant monster of a mosquito is sunk into your arm. What do you do?
I have always wondered...Kill that mofo. I'll raid the garbage out of any bug. No skin off my teeth. If you find a mouse in your house tho, you catch it and release it someplace outside, not near your house.
You are vegetarian or vegan and a giant monster of a mosquito is sunk into your arm. What do you do?
I have always wondered...Kill that mofo. I'll raid the garbage out of any bug. No skin off my teeth. If you find a mouse in your house tho, you catch it and release it someplace outside, not near your house.
You are vegetarian or vegan and a giant monster of a mosquito is sunk into your arm. What do you do?
Yeah, I couldn't take out a snake. Not to pull the "Girl Card" but I'd totally make my husband deal with that. He would try to avoid causing any harm too, but sometimes it is just unavoidable.I have always wondered...Kill that mofo. I'll raid the garbage out of any bug. No skin off my teeth. If you find a mouse in your house tho, you catch it and release it someplace outside, not near your house.
You are vegetarian or vegan and a giant monster of a mosquito is sunk into your arm. What do you do?
There are 5 snakes in my wood pile I couldn't bring myself to kill even though they are technically a threat to my small dog.
There was one snake under my lawn mower that wouldn't let me move him to safety; he was extremely aggressive. I chopped his head off then felt horrible.
I even feel bad killing bugs.
I was raised in a hunting household and have no problem eating meat, especially when I know my dad killed it because he is an ace with his bow.
Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?Squirrels must be removed, they will literally eat the house from the inside out if they aren't. You gotta call in a pro for those, most do not kill them, just catch and release. My neighbor had a squirrel problem. You do not want to mess with them!
Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?Squirrels must be removed, they will literally eat the house from the inside out if they aren't. You gotta call in a pro for those, most do not kill them, just catch and release. My neighbor had a squirrel problem. You do not want to mess with them!
In New Hampshire there are a lot of Red Squirrels, those things will attack you. It is legit self defense to take one out if it comes at you. They are like those monkeys that scratch peoples faces off. Very unpleasant. Makes me glad I don't live in NH.
Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?Squirrels must be removed, they will literally eat the house from the inside out if they aren't. You gotta call in a pro for those, most do not kill them, just catch and release. My neighbor had a squirrel problem. You do not want to mess with them!
In New Hampshire there are a lot of Red Squirrels, those things will attack you. It is legit self defense to take one out if it comes at you. They are like those monkeys that scratch peoples faces off. Very unpleasant. Makes me glad I don't live in NH.
Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?
Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?
Oh god. Squirrels are a hard one because they are so damn cute yet crazy destructive when overpopulated.
Semi-gruesome squirrel story incoming -
Once when I was about 12 my brother and I were at my grandparents house in Florida and they had a TON of squirrels so my grandma asks us to go kill some and tells us to get the .22 from grandpa and some post hole diggers (because post hole diggers apparently make perfect squirrel-sized holes)
About an hour in we had nonchalantly killed 7 or 8 squirrels and it was "my turn" so I shot one and hit it in the back. The poor thing fell out of the tree about a foot away from me and crawled around in circles with it's back legs clearly paralyzed. It looked right up at me with it's big cute eyes and I could swear it was saying "why would you do this?"
Right at that moment, my brother walks up and casually stomps the squirrels head in. Oh my god. I lost it.
And I never killed another animal intentionally.
If someone fired a gun of any kind in my neighborhood, the old white people would all start wondering with the "Hispanic person" was. I love my house, but my neighbors are racist as hell. The old white people kind of racist where they don't even know they are being racist. It is a hazard of living with a assisted living community on the same street.Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?Squirrels must be removed, they will literally eat the house from the inside out if they aren't. You gotta call in a pro for those, most do not kill them, just catch and release. My neighbor had a squirrel problem. You do not want to mess with them!
In New Hampshire there are a lot of Red Squirrels, those things will attack you. It is legit self defense to take one out if it comes at you. They are like those monkeys that scratch peoples faces off. Very unpleasant. Makes me glad I don't live in NH.
They had them removed and the things re-nested going through the metal mesh. Maybe it was a ****ty company that didn't take them far enough? Or they didn't get them all? I'm happy to step in and get a free batch of squirrel wingz, but only as last resort. Plus firing a deucedeuce in an attic in a residential neighborhood may not be the best idea.
Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?
Oh god. Squirrels are a hard one because they are so damn cute yet crazy destructive when overpopulated.
Semi-gruesome squirrel story incoming -
Once when I was about 12 my brother and I were at my grandparents house in Florida and they had a TON of squirrels so my grandma asks us to go kill some and tells us to get the .22 from grandpa and some post hole diggers (because post hole diggers apparently make perfect squirrel-sized holes)
About an hour in we had nonchalantly killed 7 or 8 squirrels and it was "my turn" so I shot one and hit it in the back. The poor thing fell out of the tree about a foot away from me and crawled around in circles with it's back legs clearly paralyzed. It looked right up at me with it's big cute eyes and I could swear it was saying "why would you do this?"
Right at that moment, my brother walks up and casually stomps the squirrels head in. Oh my god. I lost it.
And I never killed another animal intentionally.
Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?
Oh god. Squirrels are a hard one because they are so damn cute yet crazy destructive when overpopulated.
Semi-gruesome squirrel story incoming -
Once when I was about 12 my brother and I were at my grandparents house in Florida and they had a TON of squirrels so my grandma asks us to go kill some and tells us to get the .22 from grandpa and some post hole diggers (because post hole diggers apparently make perfect squirrel-sized holes)
About an hour in we had nonchalantly killed 7 or 8 squirrels and it was "my turn" so I shot one and hit it in the back. The poor thing fell out of the tree about a foot away from me and crawled around in circles with it's back legs clearly paralyzed. It looked right up at me with it's big cute eyes and I could swear it was saying "why would you do this?"
Right at that moment, my brother walks up and casually stomps the squirrels head in. Oh my god. I lost it.
And I never killed another animal intentionally.
Yeah. That'll do it to you. I could see this turning you veggie.
It is why my dad and I HATE most hunters. They don't understand anatomy, don't practice properly, don't have the skill to kill cleanly, and are just general morons probably hunting for sport and glory more than to put food on their tables.
If someone fired a gun of any kind in my neighborhood, the old white people would all start wondering with the "Hispanic person" was. I love my house, but my neighbors are racist as hell. The old white people kind of racist where they don't even know they are being racist. It is a hazard of living with a assisted living community on the same street.Oh... and squirrels keep eating through my best bud's house into his attic. They tried every humane way of getting rid of them and the crazy bastards still even get through the metal netting. I have offered to .22 them and eat them. Other options? Does this fall under the self-defense category?Squirrels must be removed, they will literally eat the house from the inside out if they aren't. You gotta call in a pro for those, most do not kill them, just catch and release. My neighbor had a squirrel problem. You do not want to mess with them!
In New Hampshire there are a lot of Red Squirrels, those things will attack you. It is legit self defense to take one out if it comes at you. They are like those monkeys that scratch peoples faces off. Very unpleasant. Makes me glad I don't live in NH.
They had them removed and the things re-nested going through the metal mesh. Maybe it was a ****ty company that didn't take them far enough? Or they didn't get them all? I'm happy to step in and get a free batch of squirrel wingz, but only as last resort. Plus firing a deucedeuce in an attic in a residential neighborhood may not be the best idea.
I had an ex who was a vegetarian...ate fish...ate turkey on thanksgiving....yea...lol
I had an ex who was a vegetarian...ate fish...ate turkey on thanksgiving....yea...lol
I had an ex who was a vegetarian...ate fish...ate turkey on thanksgiving....yea...lol
Eats fish and turkey?! That's not a vegetarian at all! :p
I had an ex who was a vegetarian...ate fish...ate turkey on thanksgiving....yea...lol
Eats fish and turkey?! That's not a vegetarian at all! :p
What's your stance on shellfish :p
I had an ex who was a vegetarian...ate fish...ate turkey on thanksgiving....yea...lol
Eats fish and turkey?! That's not a vegetarian at all! :p
What's your stance on shellfish :p
Vegetarians don't eat any meat. Shellfish included! If you eat fish/seafood, you are technically pescatarian. A lot of pescatarians just say they are vegetarian because they think it's easier, but that just makes it so vegetarians are ALWAYS asked "well what about fish!?" But it's not a big deal. If someone identifies as vegetarian but eats meat once or twice a year, I'm not going to be a d*ck about it or anything!
Ha. My parents STILL ask me every time I go home if I eat fish/shrimp and I always have to remind them nooo, I do not. They live on a farm and growing up we always had a cow slaughtered for meat for the year and went fishing/hunting pretty often so fried fish/steak/deer/hamburger meat was always on the menu. They still can't fathom how I don't wither away and die. Even when I show them all the delicious food I eat. ;D
But I also think that they are primarily motivated by the ethical argument for vegetarianism and for some reason mistreatment of shellfish (or the question of their sentience, etc.) doesn't fall on their radar :p
But I also think that they are primarily motivated by the ethical argument for vegetarianism and for some reason mistreatment of shellfish (or the question of their sentience, etc.) doesn't fall on their radar :p
Sounds like they're just being shellfish.
Sorry, I had to
But I also think that they are primarily motivated by the ethical argument for vegetarianism and for some reason mistreatment of shellfish (or the question of their sentience, etc.) doesn't fall on their radar :p
Sounds like they're just being shellfish.
Sorry, I had to
I had an ex who was a vegetarian...ate fish...ate turkey on thanksgiving....yea...lol
Eats fish and turkey?! That's not a vegetarian at all! :p
What's your stance on shellfish :p
Vegetarians don't eat any meat. Shellfish included! If you eat fish/seafood, you are technically pescatarian. A lot of pescatarians just say they are vegetarian because they think it's easier, but that just makes it so vegetarians are ALWAYS asked "well what about fish!?" But it's not a big deal. If someone identifies as vegetarian but eats meat once or twice a year, I'm not going to be a d*ck about it or anything!
Ha. My parents STILL ask me every time I go home if I eat fish/shrimp and I always have to remind them nooo, I do not. They live on a farm and growing up we always had a cow slaughtered for meat for the year and went fishing/hunting pretty often so fried fish/steak/deer/hamburger meat was always on the menu. They still can't fathom how I don't wither away and die. Even when I show them all the delicious food I eat. ;D
Yeah, I suppose it depends on your reasons for vegetarianism as well. I have met people that call themselves "vegetarians" but will eat shellfish - perhaps it's less tiresome for them to categorize themselves as such when explaining to other people. But I also think that they are primarily motivated by the ethical argument for vegetarianism and for some reason mistreatment of shellfish (or the question of their sentience, etc.) doesn't fall on their radar :p
I've met others that are vegetarian simply because they don't like the taste or texture of meat. Although I cannot for the life of me understand this, I find it to be a much more compelling argument for some reason :))
Booper, what's your stance on eggs? I've been eating like 80% vegetarian lately but I have eggs a lot. And I still love meat but I just wanted to try and easy healthier
But I also think that they are primarily motivated by the ethical argument for vegetarianism and for some reason mistreatment of shellfish (or the question of their sentience, etc.) doesn't fall on their radar :p
Sounds like they're just being shellfish.
Sorry, I had to
Booper, what's your stance on eggs? I've been eating like 80% vegetarian lately but I have eggs a lot. And I still love meat but I just wanted to try and easy healthier
Eggs are hard because eggs themselves are vegetarian, but if you are in it for ethical/environmental factors, you have to acknowledge that the situation around chickens and eggs is no better than the situation with chickens used for meat (unless you have a friend with a chicken coupe!) They are all pretty much locked in tiny cages and essentially tortured all their lives.
So, that being said. I still eat eggs occasionally. I have some guilt about it because I know it's selfish to eat eggs since I could easily do without and it's hypocritical in some sense since I claim to refrain from meat mostly for ethical/environmental reasons. I've been confronted by many vegans for being a hypocrite and they aren't wrong. But I love to cook and eggs/butter are essential in a lot of recipes I make and substitutes yield sub-par results. Also, I live in a place that isn't really conducive to a vegetarian lifestyle. I pretty much can't eat out and can barely even find tofu around here so vegan cheeses and egg substitutes aren't practical. Also, a lot of imitation foods contain things like palm oil which is part of a whole other f**ked up situation so it can be like trading one evil for another.
I don't know. I may lean vegan in time but for now, I think it's all about finding a balance somewhere that satisfies your appetite and your convictions.
But I also think that they are primarily motivated by the ethical argument for vegetarianism and for some reason mistreatment of shellfish (or the question of their sentience, etc.) doesn't fall on their radar :pSounds like they're just being shellfish.
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I had an ex who was a vegetarian...ate fish...ate turkey on thanksgiving....yea...lol
Eats fish and turkey?! That's not a vegetarian at all! :p
What's your stance on shellfish :p
Vegetarians don't eat any meat. Shellfish included! If you eat fish/seafood, you are technically pescatarian. A lot of pescatarians just say they are vegetarian because they think it's easier, but that just makes it so vegetarians are ALWAYS asked "well what about fish!?" But it's not a big deal. If someone identifies as vegetarian but eats meat once or twice a year, I'm not going to be a d*ck about it or anything!
Ha. My parents STILL ask me every time I go home if I eat fish/shrimp and I always have to remind them nooo, I do not. They live on a farm and growing up we always had a cow slaughtered for meat for the year and went fishing/hunting pretty often so fried fish/steak/deer/hamburger meat was always on the menu. They still can't fathom how I don't wither away and die. Even when I show them all the delicious food I eat. ;D
Yeah, I suppose it depends on your reasons for vegetarianism as well. I have met people that call themselves "vegetarians" but will eat shellfish - perhaps it's less tiresome for them to categorize themselves as such when explaining to other people. But I also think that they are primarily motivated by the ethical argument for vegetarianism and for some reason mistreatment of shellfish (or the question of their sentience, etc.) doesn't fall on their radar :p
I've met others that are vegetarian simply because they don't like the taste or texture of meat. Although I cannot for the life of me understand this, I find it to be a much more compelling argument for some reason :))
Haha. I can understand that argument. I used to love meat and I was meat crazy! But the last few times I ate it before throwing in the towel, I couldn't help but identify the texture as being "fleshy" which grossed me out. As for shellfish, idk, did you know lobsters can easily live to be 100+ years old!? I guess I just think things like "Who am I to be responsible for ending the life of something that's been around so long just so that I can have a crappy lunch at red lobster!?"
I read a book "Consider the Lobster and other essays" by David Foster Wallace that does a really good job pondering the logic/ethics about killing lobsters. Basically, he presents the argument that they are HIGHLY sensitive to temperature to a point that they migrate to stay in the proper temperature of water, and yet we boil them to death even though they clearly exhibit signs of trying to escape their discomfort, just to satisfy our palette for a few minutes. He's not saying not to eat them though, he just brings to light the idea that even though it's just a lobster, it was still a living breathing thing with actions and deserves some thoughtfulness.
I've never gotten into food as a statement of anything. I'm more about taste and health.
/me shrug
But if you wanna talk about free range, there's apparently loose controls on that. You could have a door on the coop and a little yard but still have the chickens in the coop and I believe that still counts as free range. It's not the company's fault if they don't wander outside.
Great book! My ex-girlfriend made me read it :P
It's so unfair though...I was raised on the East-Coast of Canada...lobster's in my blood.
I've never gotten into food as a statement of anything. I'm more about taste and health.
/me shrug
But if you wanna talk about free range, there's apparently loose controls on that. You could have a door on the coop and a little yard but still have the chickens in the coop and I believe that still counts as free range. It's not the company's fault if they don't wander outside.
I would gladly turn vegetarian if I can have the kind of food booper have ;)
Blink twice if you're in trouble and need rescuing.I would gladly turn vegetarian if I can have the kind of food booper have ;)
Can confirm, worked for me. :p :p :p
Blink twice if you're in trouble and need rescuing.I would gladly turn vegetarian if I can have the kind of food booper have ;)
Can confirm, worked for me. :p :p :p
I would gladly turn vegetarian if I can have the kind of food booper have ;)
I'm finally done moving and in mississippi, send food pls.
I dunno. Sometimes I just make an entire rack of ribs and just tuck in bare handed and shirtless like some ravenous caveman. I get sauce all over me and then jump in the shower after, it really makes you feel primal which is exactly what I need to feel sometimes.
Vegetarians are lame anyways
:'(
I dunno. Sometimes I just make an entire rack of ribs and just tuck in bare handed and shirtless like some ravenous caveman. I get sauce all over me and then jump in the shower after, it really makes you feel primal which is exactly what I need to feel sometimes.
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Carrots are treats! Found that out when I had this guy -Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dMi7y.jpg)
I never said it was bad? It got defensive fast lol. I meant that in more of a general way. For example, a band I was listening to last night has a shirt that says "Go Veg"; like it's a badge of honor. I don't really agree with some of the reasons people go about with some things such as vegetarianism or religion. That's all I meant. Most importantly, do you. I'm just poorly explaining some of my opinions.
I never said it was bad? It got defensive fast lol. I meant that in more of a general way. For example, a band I was listening to last night has a shirt that says "Go Veg"; like it's a badge of honor. I don't really agree with some of the reasons people go about with some things such as vegetarianism or religion. That's all I meant. Most importantly, do you. I'm just poorly explaining some of my opinions.
Just to play devil's advocate. And I should say I've got nothing against booper or anyone else. Like I said, do you.
Let's say that I wanted to go vegetarian because of moral reasons. I disagree with how meat is harvested and I disapprove of the current state of the industry. The only issue is....there's issues with how crops and vegetables are harvested too. How many farms have good benefits and look after their American-born colleagues well? Maybe there are some. But unfortunately there are farms that use migrant labor. Does every farm pays good wages, health insurance and ESL classes if their laborers are from Mexico or Central America? Does it feel great to live in the USA illegally? Knowing you can get deported at any moment? Knowing people openly talk **** about you?
I've got moral issues with that too. The way I see it, you're playing a balancing act. I think it's ****ed up how the food system is all around and there's no easy answers.
I remember watching food inc in my health class in college, it's really depressing seeing those chickens walking around in piss and ****, unable to fly with their genetically-modified larger breasts. The situations the farmers are put in, where they feel trapped and obligated to keep doing it because of their debt and low pay. Obviously the documentary has a clear agenda behind it, so take all information with a grain of salt, but it does shed light on some things that need to be brought to the public eye.
I remember watching food inc in my health class in college, it's really depressing seeing those chickens walking around in piss and ****, unable to fly with their genetically-modified larger breasts. The situations the farmers are put in, where they feel trapped and obligated to keep doing it because of their debt and low pay. Obviously the documentary has a clear agenda behind it, so take all information with a grain of salt, but it does shed light on some things that need to be brought to the public eye.
If people knew half the **** that farm meat experienced there would be far more vegetarians or people who ate less meat. I'd love to see people eating less meat, for people to know and/or experience the process by which meat is obtained, and for people to press for more humane treatment of animals.
Just to play devil's advocate. And I should say I've got nothing against booper or anyone else. Like I said, do you.
Let's say that I wanted to go vegetarian because of moral reasons. I disagree with how meat is harvested and I disapprove of the current state of the industry. The only issue is....there's issues with how crops and vegetables are harvested too. How many farms have good benefits and look after their American-born colleagues well? Maybe there are some. But unfortunately there are farms that use migrant labor. Does every farm pays good wages, health insurance and ESL classes if their laborers are from Mexico or Central America? Does it feel great to live in the USA illegally? Knowing you can get deported at any moment? Knowing people openly talk **** about you?
I've got moral issues with that too. The way I see it, you're playing a balancing act. I think it's ****ed up how the food system is all around and there's no easy answers.
I remember watching food inc in my health class in college, it's really depressing seeing those chickens walking around in piss and ****, unable to fly with their genetically-modified larger breasts. The situations the farmers are put in, where they feel trapped and obligated to keep doing it because of their debt and low pay. Obviously the documentary has a clear agenda behind it, so take all information with a grain of salt, but it does shed light on some things that need to be brought to the public eye.
If people knew half the **** that farm meat experienced there would be far more vegetarians or people who ate less meat. I'd love to see people eating less meat, for people to know and/or experience the process by which meat is obtained, and for people to press for more humane treatment of animals.
I had an ex who was a vegetarian...ate fish...ate turkey on thanksgiving....yea...lol
Obviously she had commitment problems! She is an ex after all.
MoreJust to play devil's advocate. And I should say I've got nothing against booper or anyone else. Like I said, do you.
Let's say that I wanted to go vegetarian because of moral reasons. I disagree with how meat is harvested and I disapprove of the current state of the industry. The only issue is....there's issues with how crops and vegetables are harvested too. How many farms have good benefits and look after their American-born colleagues well? Maybe there are some. But unfortunately there are farms that use migrant labor. Does every farm pays good wages, health insurance and ESL classes if their laborers are from Mexico or Central America? Does it feel great to live in the USA illegally? Knowing you can get deported at any moment? Knowing people openly talk **** about you?
I've got moral issues with that too. The way I see it, you're playing a balancing act. I think it's ****ed up how the food system is all around and there's no easy answers.
Hmm, initially I would say that I fail to see the relevancy of your argument as it pertains to vegetarianism? It would seem that you are implying that by cutting out meat, I am somehow ignoring or even contributing to the situation with migrant workers and I don't think that's the case. The plight of migrant workers is largely a political/human rights issue that needs to be addressed. That being said, there are many people in this country who don't get benefits, good wages, health insurance or anything. Not just migrant farm workers. Inequality, racism and immigration are a problem in this country in general and it's something I am also concerned about.
However, I would argue that by default, being a vegetarian does actually help the plight of migrant laborers more than harm because 1) In the current agriculture system, the US government promotes large corporation style farming which by it's nature neglects the welfare of people, plants and animals. 2) a large portion of agriculture in our country is subsidized and actually goes to feeding livestock. So the ****ty corporation corn farms hire workers and pay next to nothing.
Basically, it seems to me like NOT eating meat helps contribute, in whatever small way, to a cut back in inhumane animal treatment and exploitation of farmers, land, and workers while eating it doesn't really do anything but contribute to the whole f**ked up system.
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Anyway! I hope none of this reads as defensive or anything! I welcome discussion about this sort of thing and am fine with conflicting points of view. You know I <3 you CPT!
lolPETA
I've lived around farms most of my adult life and I don't see a problem with eating meat. Humans are more humain(?) than most wild animals that hunt for food. It's fine to be against types of mass produced farm meats, but I don't quite see how boycotting all meat changes that. Best way I can see to make real change happen is to vote with your money and make it economically less viable to farm in a way that makes animals lives a misery.
By not eating meat you essentially cut yourself out of the only way you can change how animals are farmed for meat, least in my opinion.
If people knew half the **** that farm meat experienced there would be far more vegetarians or people who ate less meat. I'd love to see people eating less meat, for people to know and/or experience the process by which meat is obtained, and for people to press for more humane treatment of animals.
Nubs gets it! <3
I agree, if people weren't so disconnected from the process by which that steak and chicken gets to the plate.. there would probably be a lot more vegetarians. I've witnessed a calf grow up from a cute, playful baby to being on my plate and I've gotta say, steak just wasn't as appealing when I could recall petting and feeding that hunk of meat as a calf.
My wife's parents have a farm with cows on it.. sometimes for Christmas they have a cow slaughtered and divvy up the meat, yumSame here, we also get the occasional pig from the in-laws to and the occasional deer or turkey depending on hunting season.
I also think you're trading one evil for another by being vegetarian
lolPETA
I've lived around farms most of my adult life and I don't see a problem with eating meat. Humans are more humain(?) than most wild animals that hunt for food. It's fine to be against types of mass produced farm meats, but I don't quite see how boycotting all meat changes that. Best way I can see to make real change happen is to vote with your money and make it economically less viable to farm in a way that makes animals lives a misery.
By not eating meat you essentially cut yourself out of the only way you can change how animals are farmed for meat, least in my opinion.
Humans are more humain(?) than most wild animals that hunt for food
My wife's parents have a farm with cows on it.. sometimes for Christmas they have a cow slaughtered and divvy up the meat, yumSame here, we also get the occasional pig from the in-laws to and the occasional deer or turkey depending on hunting season.
That meat is so much better than stuff from a store.
Growing up my grandad had chicken, quail and rabbits that were raised to be eaten.
Also growing up squirrels, possums, snakes, turtles or any other animal we could find where eaten, although I only really remember the fried rattlesnake and turtle stew.
MoreI remember watching food inc in my health class in college, it's really depressing seeing those chickens walking around in piss and ****, unable to fly with their genetically-modified larger breasts. The situations the farmers are put in, where they feel trapped and obligated to keep doing it because of their debt and low pay. Obviously the documentary has a clear agenda behind it, so take all information with a grain of salt, but it does shed light on some things that need to be brought to the public eye.
If people knew half the **** that farm meat experienced there would be far more vegetarians or people who ate less meat. I'd love to see people eating less meat, for people to know and/or experience the process by which meat is obtained, and for people to press for more humane treatment of animals.
but bacon
All this talk of people raising chickens makes me wish I did that. :)
/me needs to buy a farm
Princess Luna/Nightmare Moon is best pony. You must get Des into this so I am not alone in MLP land.It took me a while to see that it wasn't an octopus with wide-set eyes and a baby narwhal sitting on its head. :rolleyes:
Kinda curious about the logic there? What evil am I trading for?
I also think you're trading one evil for another by being vegetarian
Most people who are meat-eaters wouldn't live better lives if they cut down on it, and on especially red meat and processed meat.OK, no need to stop eating meat then.
Not all people feel compassion, towards animals this can be especially true.
I have read stories of people talking about how you can live totally healthy lives without needing to eat meat and that we as a species should be above the slaughter of animals for food as we can get nutrients and minerals from other sources, which makes sense and is fair enough.
I'd love to live in a world where all we have to eat are pills and bars that contain all the nutrients we need and are synthetically made, but I think that time is a long way off and the reason is the same reason I worry about veganism and all it's variants.
I'm not aware the impact of long term generational vegatarianism or veganism has been tracked/studied etc etc... what are the long term affects of generations not eating meat on the human body and the effect on there children and how they develop?
The human body evolved this way because of it's diet and I'm more than happy to have our diets change so we can continue to become more advanced and more developed, but I personally am worried of the effects of such a diet in the long term and think that before that research can be done, for the majority of people aiming for sustainable, humane farming of animals is the way to go.
>my mum kept chickens, they are stupid creatures but have surprisingly strong personalities (as I imagine most do).
Kinda curious about the logic there? What evil am I trading for?
I also think you're trading one evil for another by being vegetarian
If you're approaching vegetarianism from an ethical standpoint, in my opinion, you're trading animal welfare and responsible farming vs social issues such as migrant labor.
MoreI have been a vegetarian for most of my life. I went vegetarian for moral reasons when I was 14. Later, I just think of meat to be disgusting and that is the main reason why I can never go back. When I think of meat, I think of disease: mad cow, salmonella, nigella, parasites, excess hormones.
I do eat eggs and dairy though, and I think that I will never give that up. You can't have pizza without cheese and you can't make a sponge-cake without eggs. (I have yet to try "No-Egg" powder...)
I buy organic free-range eggs and dairy products exclusively.
There is a myth that vegetarians need to be extra careful to get enough protein - that is not a problem because there is a lot of protein in a lot of foodstuffs. We don't need to eat beans at every meal!
No, our stone-age ancestors were never completely vegetarian, but they certainly did not eat as much meat as modern Western man does.
It is a proven fact that people in the Western world eat too much meat overall and that high meat consumption is responsible for many diseases. Most people who are meat-eaters wouldn't live better lives if they cut down on it, and on especially red meat and processed meat. I read the other day that average meat consumption per person in the Western world has risen by one third since 1980 .. and it isn't as if people didn't eat enough meat back then.
Industrial meat production depends too much on antibiotics - meat farms being where you will find the most antibiotic-resistant bacteria. It has also been theorized that meat production was the source of bird flu, and most other forms of influenza.
Meat production also accounts for one quarter of all greenhouse gases... with beef being the worst meat.
BTW, most methane does not actually come out of the back of the cow, but from the front. That is because cows are ruminants - who regurgitate food to chew it some more. Mutton is also a bad meat for the climate because sheep are also ruminants, but there aren't as many sheep in the world as there are cows bred for slaughter.
There are many cultures in Asia that have largely vegetarian lifestyles and there is information that suggests vegetarians live longer, that meat contributes to cancer, higher cholesterol, too much protein, etc.
There are many cultures in Asia that have largely vegetarian lifestyles and there is information that suggests vegetarians live longer, that meat contributes to cancer, higher cholesterol, too much protein, etc.
There are also many cultures in Asia that are largely lactose intolerant. The diets that we require to be healthy/satisfied vary from person to person enough that I don't think your example holds much weight. What if they've evolved that way? What if they get some of their nutrients from vegetables that we don't have here? I don't know the answer to those questions because I've never asked them until now, but my point is that I don't think it's quite that simple. I'm not disagreeing with your message, just pointing out the possible logical leap.
There are many cultures in Asia that have largely vegetarian lifestyles and there is information that suggests vegetarians live longer, that meat contributes to cancer, higher cholesterol, too much protein, etc.
There are also many cultures in Asia that are largely lactose intolerant. The diets that we require to be healthy/satisfied vary from person to person enough that I don't think your example holds much weight. What if they've evolved that way? What if they get some of their nutrients from vegetables that we don't have here? I don't know the answer to those questions because I've never asked them until now, but my point is that I don't think it's quite that simple. I'm not disagreeing with your message, just pointing out the possible logical leap.
Ohh man, I'm wasting so much time on all this! ha.
So.. first, I think it's funny that I need to provide a stronger argument that a vegetarian lifestyle wont potentially cause strange evolutionary changes. What about potential evolutionary problem that may arise with people eating a sh*tload of meat?
There are many cultures in Asia that have largely vegetarian lifestyles and there is information that suggests vegetarians live longer, that meat contributes to cancer, higher cholesterol, too much protein, etc.
There are also many cultures in Asia that are largely lactose intolerant. The diets that we require to be healthy/satisfied vary from person to person enough that I don't think your example holds much weight. What if they've evolved that way? What if they get some of their nutrients from vegetables that we don't have here? I don't know the answer to those questions because I've never asked them until now, but my point is that I don't think it's quite that simple. I'm not disagreeing with your message, just pointing out the possible logical leap.
Ohh man, I'm wasting so much time on all this! ha.
So.. first, I think it's funny that I need to provide a stronger argument that a vegetarian lifestyle wont potentially cause strange evolutionary changes. What about potential evolutionary problem that may arise with people eating a sh*tload of meat?
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I made a point to say I don't disagree with you, but was simply pointing out what could possibly be a logical fallacy. :| Basing ones own nutrition off the diet of others without doing any additional research just seems like a poor idea. That's all I was saying. I even specifically said that I had not done said research, so perhaps my argument in this case was moot, but as a general statement I still think it holds merit.
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Why can't we just be friends and eat our different foods and be happy?
What if people had to go and kill their own animals for meat?
Just have them walk into the piss filled chicken farms and snap ones neck; then get filled with depression and regret as they eat a guilt sandwich.
Though I guess animal cruelty is an early sign of a murderer...
Also great! Now we can point out potential murderers in the world!
Vegetarians are lame anywaystold you
What if people had to go and kill their own animals for meat?
Just have them walk into the piss filled chicken farms and snap ones neck; then get filled with depression and regret as they eat a guilt sandwich.
Though I guess animal cruelty is an early sign of a murderer...
Also great! Now we can point out potential murderers in the world!
You poor thing. I'll think of you next time I'm enjoying some fried chicken.
I just hate how much meat gets wasted. Drives me nuts. I always try to buy the expiring **** at the supermarket.
For example, I saw that 3 tubs of chicken liver were expiring that day 2 days ago, so I bought it all and cooked it that night. It is so delicious and has some health benefits, but I also know it has a ton of poison in it considering it is an organ that filters out bad ****.
I am a nose-to-tail meat eater, so bring on your tongues, hearts, livers, etc!
What if people had to go and kill their own animals for meat?One benefit of people growing chickens at home is not having to go to a chicken farm to wring a chicken's neck. By the way, the latter is quite easy.
Just have them walk into the piss filled chicken farms and snap ones neck; then get filled with depression and regret as they eat a guilt sandwich.
Though I guess animal cruelty is an early sign of a murderer...
Also great! Now we can point out potential murderers in the world!
The Best Burger of the Year Has No Meat in It (http://www.gq.com/story/best-burger-of-the-year-superiority-burger)
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