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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: gizzard on Fri, 13 November 2015, 12:56:31
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Just got my KBParadice TKL V80 Dolch Matias Quiet Click...
Seems like the throw (the distance the keys depress) is really short.. Is this the case for all Matias keys or just the quiet click?
It seems almost impossible to not bottom out with the keys.. it is really quiet though: compared to either Cherry browns or Novatouch...
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All Matias switches have a shorter throw compared to Cherry. I always bottom out on my switches, makes no difference what I use, so I have no advice there.
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Matias switches have 3.5mm key travel while Cherry ones are usually 4mm.
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I got mine too, and noticed the same thing. Then I realized that the tactile point is significantly higher in the stroke than a Cherry MX Brown, which is what I use most of the rest of the time. When combined with the switch requiring significantly more actuation force than an MX Brown, it makes the throw seem a lot shorter. I've noticed that sometimes I hit the tactile point and my finger stops, but the key could actually travel further, where the Cherry MX Browns are a lot easier to bottom out.
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The total travel isn't really short, but Matiases have a much higher actuation point than Cherries, a result of their Alps heritage. This higher actuation point is very beneficial and a major advantage of the keyswitch design.
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You're not crazy. They do actuate higher. They are also wobblier than MX, which takes some getting used to but I think in the long run it makes it easier to press, especially when your keystroke is slightly off-center.
So IMO, the different actuation points and wobbliness are not necessarily good or bad, just different, and totally a matter of personal preference.
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Matiases have a much higher actuation point than Cherries, a result of their Alps heritage.
This higher actuation point is very beneficial and a major advantage of the keyswitch design.
Agree completely. High activation point is great. Combine it with stiff springs if you are having trouble with false hits.
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I got mine too, and noticed the same thing. Then I realized that the tactile point is significantly higher in the stroke than a Cherry MX Brown, which is what I use most of the rest of the time. When combined with the switch requiring significantly more actuation force than an MX Brown, it makes the throw seem a lot shorter. I've noticed that sometimes I hit the tactile point and my finger stops, but the key could actually travel further, where the Cherry MX Browns are a lot easier to bottom out.
This matches my experience - Quiet Clicks are the only switch I've used where I can actually type without missing keys (MX clears) or bottoming out (MX reds, blacks and jailhouse blues, Topre)
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The throw seems shorter to me as well, but I much prefer these to MX switches. I find that the stiffer springs and higher actuation force make for a much better typing experience.