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GB thread here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79315.0
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7u spacebars, stepped caps lock support.
ANSI only for HHKB and ISO/ANSI for Winkeyless.
(http://i.imgur.com/OsVvddK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2g0lmo4.png)
If we have 2 different options, we can get the price as low as 30$ per. Let me know what you want to see, or how many you would personally buy.
LeandreN
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It looks good.
Is there a possibility for a caps lock offset?
I wouldn't mind a 6u spacebar but aren't they hard to come by? It might have to support 6.25 or 7.
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I had this made for me a year ago.
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Silver anodized aluminum.
7u spacebar.
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I had this made for me a year ago.
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Silver anodized aluminum.
7u spacebar.
Yeah i think i will change the design too 6.25 now that you say it. I will try to add support for an offset caps lock.
EDIT: seems like PCBs out there only support HHKB layout with a 7u or 6u spacebar. It will deifnetily be a 7u then. Also, stabilisers are easier to come by...
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Updated the OP with new pictures.
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:) Interested
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HHKB layout
To be honest I don't see any particular reason to have a Cherry MX replica of a Topre based board.
HHKB is not just a layout, and it's widely appreciated for a different number of reasons (which are not me to list).
I don't mean to be disruptive, you know me, I've supported all your three GBs so far, and those are the things you should focus on.
Your GBs have constantly improved because you didn't just offer plates; you gave people the possibility to make their own 60% Cherry MX boards, and that was great. I made myself two of these and you're the one to thank.
You should really focus on 60% board, perhaps by selling cases or keycaps.
My two cents.
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Some people just like having open space in the bottom corners.
(http://i.imgur.com/usHNxPh.jpg)
I like it because it reminds me that Control is next to A, not on the bottom corners. :) You see, I like the HHKB layout, and use it on all my 60% keyboards. I care nothing about the Topre switch, and the HHKB being the perfect keyboard has little to do with the switches, and everything to do with the layout.
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I had this made for me a year ago.
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Silver anodized aluminum.
7u spacebar.
Yeah i think i will change the design too 6.25 now that you say it. I will try to add support for an offset caps lock.
EDIT: seems like PCBs out there only support HHKB layout with a 7u or 6u spacebar. It will deifnetily be a 7u then. Also, stabilisers are easier to come by...
Part of me says it would be great to support 6u but I havent found a way to get any becuase they arent supported on many gbs. Also, I think the stabs for it are only costar and are hard to come by
I think gateron sold cherry profile 6u pbt keys.
SP has a 6u dsa and dcs. Not sure if SP has a 6u sa key.
I was asking about the off set caps but it doesnt mean it should be included.
If you want "authentic" hhkb style then the first draft you created was closer to that.
If you change the plate to support a 6.25u spacebar, can it still support 1.5 and 1u mods?
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HHKB layout
To be honest I don't see any particular reason to have a Cherry MX replica of a Topre based board.
HHKB is not just a layout, and it's widely appreciated for a different number of reasons (which are not me to list).
I don't mean to be disruptive, you know me, I've supported all your three GBs so far, and those are the things you should focus on.
Your GBs have constantly improved because you didn't just offer plates; you gave people the possibility to make their own 60% Cherry MX boards, and that was great. I made myself two of these and you're the one to thank.
You should really focus on 60% board, perhaps by selling cases or keycaps.
My two cents.
I understand your concerns, and i agree. The plate, if enough support is going to be made for those that have ordered, or will order from my GB to cover up the holes on the side they won't use. It isn't anything that will delay the other GBs, it will just be a mini-GB that will run along the current, or next GB. It isn't something i am going to put a lot off time and effort into.
I am actually working on cases with Vortex, so that is definetily exciting.
Again, just a small "side option" for those interested in making a Topre style board, this plate won't get it's own "round".
This IC is made because numerous people have shared their interest for it.
Thanks for your interest.
LeandreN
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I agree wholeheartedly, the layout was no accident. I think it is a brilliant layout and it is not exclusive to topre. The Pro 2 is an excellent keyboard for the combination of switch and layout, but the switch is all about the feel and is of course subjective. Dr. Wada seemed to know what he was doing and the layout was created out of experience. If you are interested on the concept the deskthority wiki is fairly good. (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Happy_Hacking_Keyboard)
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I am actually working on cases with Vortex, so that is definetily exciting.
Definetely exciting indeed, share some progress as soon as possible please.
a small "side option" for those interested in making a Topre style board, this plate won't get it's own "round".
This IC is made because numerous people have shared their interest for it.
Then I will support it with suggestions. If you're going for Cherry only stabilizers, make the plate universal.
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(http://i.imgur.com/XYUm6Yf.png)
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HHKB layout
To be honest I don't see any particular reason to have a Cherry MX replica of a Topre based board.
HHKB is not just a layout, and it's widely appreciated for a different number of reasons (which are not me to list).
I don't mean to be disruptive, you know me, I've supported all your three GBs so far, and those are the things you should focus on.
Your GBs have constantly improved because you didn't just offer plates; you gave people the possibility to make their own 60% Cherry MX boards, and that was great. I made myself two of these and you're the one to thank.
You should really focus on 60% board, perhaps by selling cases or keycaps.
My two cents.
I understand your concerns, and i agree. The plate, if enough support is going to be made for those that have ordered, or will order from my GB to cover up the holes on the side they won't use. It isn't anything that will delay the other GBs, it will just be a mini-GB that will run along the current, or next GB. It isn't something i am going to put a lot off time and effort into.
I am actually working on cases with Vortex, so that is definetily exciting.
Again, just a small "side option" for those interested in making a Topre style board, this plate won't get it's own "round".
This IC is made because numerous people have shared their interest for it.
Thanks for your interest.
LeandreN
What's funny is I didnt show interest in this style on the forums for a year even though I did want another hhkb style plate.
I didnt know other people were as interested in this as I was.
I'm actually very excited for this possible gb to get another hhkb style plate in another color.
I'd want another low profile case to go with it though.
Truthfully, I'd want a Viper case. The problem is the angle on the vipers are too steep. I think the Viper's angle is around 11 degrees.
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I think you want something like my "jdcarpe" plate, only with the bottom corner switch holes eliminated:
(http://i.imgur.com/8wfjv8x.jpg)
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Misleading thread.
I thought you came up with a plate for AN ACTUAL HHKB that wasn't a big red lego block.
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I think you want something like my "jdcarpe" plate, only with the bottom corner switch holes eliminated:
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I should have joined that gb. I didnt. :(
I will say, I like the idea of having a strictly hhkb type plate.
Split backspace for two units.
Split riggt shift for a function key.
7u spacebar with two 1.5 mods and two 1u mods.
Centered capslock key.
The reason I like it is becuase its (arguably) the truest hhkb layout you can get. Also, you arent going to have as many gaps in the plate between keycaps like other universal plates.
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I think you want something like my "jdcarpe" plate, only with the bottom corner switch holes eliminated:
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Everytime i try to design something on my own, you come and beat me with your great designs. You have also but A LOT more effort into it. If you design it, i will take it. Even laser etch your logo into the plate.
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I think you want something like my "jdcarpe" plate, only with the bottom corner switch holes eliminated:
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(http://i.imgur.com/8wfjv8x.jpg)
Everytime i try to design something on my own, you come and beat me with your great designs. You have also but A LOT more effort into it. If you design it, i will take it. Even laser etch your logo into the plate.
Hahaha. Sorry, bro. I don't mean to step on your toes here. But as you might guess, I've spent A LOT of time thinking about plate designs. :D
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Name it JDKB and engrave it on the bottom right corner.
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I think you want something like my "jdcarpe" plate, only with the bottom corner switch holes eliminated:
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(http://i.imgur.com/8wfjv8x.jpg)
Everytime i try to design something on my own, you come and beat me with your great designs. You have also but A LOT more effort into it. If you design it, i will take it. Even laser etch your logo into the plate.
Hahaha. Sorry, bro. I don't mean to step on your toes here. But as you might guess, I've spent A LOT of time thinking about plate designs. :D
No problem. It is much more fair to release a polished design for a GB. Send it over when you are ready. :D
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I don't think this should stop at plates. We need a whole case with high edges for the HHKB layout. Basically a Duck Viper case that supports the standard custom 60% pcb and plate.
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Updated again ! :)
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Plate mockup:
(http://i.imgur.com/2g0lmo4.png)
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Plate mockup:
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Thanks !
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Any Alps folks interested in HHKB-layout Alps plates, with Costar stab cutouts (only)? I designed this plate using a standard ANSI bottom row, so that I can use my Tai Hao double shots with 6.25u spacebar. Could also remove the corner switches.
(http://i.imgur.com/sRY0EIn.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/rr6nbjm.png)
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Any Alps folks interested in HHKB-layout Alps plates, with Costar stab cutouts (only)? I designed this plate using a standard ANSI bottom row, so that I can use my Tai Hao double shots with 6.25u spacebar. Could also remove the corner switches.
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Thanks. I will add these too!
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I want to post my hhkb layout keyboard :)
(http://fmn.rrimg.com/fmn063/20141122/1325/original_Zs08_7d8f00010685118c.jpg)
(http://fmn.xnpic.com/fmn056/20150221/2350/original_RSln_416a00021f99118c.jpg)
(http://fmn.rrfmn.com/fmn058/20141122/1325/original_7G3c_1f3f0000f281125d.jpg)
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So, a 1x-1.5x-7x-1.5x-1x bottom row?
I'd be interested in one. I decided a while ago to swap out my Pok3r pcb with something, and I do prefer the HHKB layout.
I'm guessing the 7u space bar is to make the bottom symmetrical.
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I'm guessing the 7u space bar is to make the bottom symmetrical.
I can't be sure but, by the look of jdcarpe's plate, the spacebar is 6u.
I guess Greatfirewall used his own plate.
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It is going to be 7u. JDcarpes plate has a 7u spacebar.
This is to make it easier to get keycaps and stabilisers for. Awesome keyboard pictures !
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I would be down for this
But yeah 7u spacebar for sure - get dat symmetry
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I would be down for this
But yeah 7u spacebar for sure - get dat symmetry
Yup.
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Any fans of split space bars here?
I don't get the massive bar. Why?
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I'm interested. But I want a HHKB layout keyboard case more.
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Definitely interested. :thumb:
What PCB does everyone recommend for this?
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The SPRiT 60% should work, given a 1-1.5-7-1.5-1 bottom row. NerD60 also looks good.
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I'm interested. But I want a HHKB layout keyboard case more.
I want a hhkb case, too. Similar to the viper.
I'd want it to be compatible with existing 60 percent pcbs though.
The problem is it would have to be a two part design and the mounting holes would be far apart.
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I want to post my hhkb layout keyboard :)
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(http://fmn.rrimg.com/fmn063/20141122/1325/original_Zs08_7d8f00010685118c.jpg)
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(http://fmn.xnpic.com/fmn056/20150221/2350/original_RSln_416a00021f99118c.jpg)
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Great looking blockers Greatfirewall!
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In for 1 - assuming these get made, could we have them ship along with the round 3 groupbuy? :thumb:
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I'm glad someone bumped this, because I didn't notice it before. I was already planning on making a two-part case that would compliment these, and cover up the open space at the edges. Looking forward to these!
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Bumpety bump.
I will definetily run a GB for these. I will go with 3 colors/materials, do it super fast after my current GB is done. It will not be able to ship with the current GB, but shipping will be around 7$ for US customers for 1-2 plates. If we like only get US customers for this, i will use a proxy and it will be around 4-5$ shipping per, MAX.
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I'm glad someone bumped this, because I didn't notice it before. I was already planning on making a two-part case that would compliment these, and cover up the open space at the edges. Looking forward to these!
That would be cool, your cases are great. Maybe great enough for me to use the HHKB layout? Probably not, but rock on! I am sure there are a lot of people interested.
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I'm glad someone bumped this, because I didn't notice it before. I was already planning on making a two-part case that would compliment these, and cover up the open space at the edges. Looking forward to these!
That would be cool, your cases are great. Maybe great enough for me to use the HHKB layout? Probably not, but rock on! I am sure there are a lot of people interested.
I was already planning on doing this with one of the plates you sent me when I get my WKL stuff, because I have the right spacebar and mods for my jukebox set. Obviously, if I'm covering it up it doesn't matter, but for people that don't want the keys to depress down into the case, or don't want a dual-tone case, it would work great if they just used one of your plates with a reasonably matched case color of mine
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In for one plate, although I would hope for ISO left shift as well.
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Hmm, I might get an Alps plate for a rainy day. Aluminum is the only material I have no real experience with typing on. Will Carbon Fiber Alps plates be available too for this design, Leandre?
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Hmm, I might get an Alps plate for a rainy day. Aluminum is the only material I have no real experience with typing on. Will Carbon Fiber Alps plates be available too for this design, Leandre?
We can have that as an option. Would appericate if there was more than 1 order for it though
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If these do go for sale I would def grab one!
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Hmm, I might get an Alps plate for a rainy day. Aluminum is the only material I have no real experience with typing on. Will Carbon Fiber Alps plates be available too for this design, Leandre?
We can have that as an option. Would appericate if there was more than 1 order for it though
You are right in the sense of waiting to see if there is enough interest for them. I spoke to someone who told me they ordered 5 universal CF plates from you in your most recent GB. If there's that same kind of interest, then I think we'd be good.
Any projection on when these will move into the ordering phase in general?
If there was a 7u HHKB layout for ALPS, that'd work nicely for my build, but I don't want to be the one guy who wants that layout where other Alps fans would want only the 6u (Even in the Alps world, 6u isn't very common. Only some vintage oddities and new cap sets + the Infinity keyboard have that size).
As my builds are complete, having carbon fiber plates are not 100% necessary for me, so it's okay if there's not enough interest.
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E3E,
Those Alps plate designs in the OP have a 1.25/6.25 bottom row. Because 6.25 wires are the only ones I can get for Costar stabs. If there were a source for 7u Costar stab wires, I would love to redesign the plate for 1.5/7u.
Do you think there is any case for making the plate in 6u or 7u instead of 6.25u?
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I want to post my hhkb layout keyboard :)
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(http://fmn.xnpic.com/fmn056/20150221/2350/original_RSln_416a00021f99118c.jpg)
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I really like how this came out.
I am hoping these plates will be made soon!
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Hurry up JD
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If there were a source for 7u Costar stab wires, I would love to redesign the plate for 1.5/7u.
What are people in alps party who bought the hhkb plate doing for a stab wire? Is that the same layout?
I would also be interested in a plate.
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I have a little wire bender ( some cheap one after seeing listers video on it ), I could maybe buy some wire and see if I could do some 7u costar? If anyone knows the thickness of the wire I could grab some and see if I can make some stab wires. Although I am not sure if I would want to bend a bunch on a little thing like that, may be a bit time consuming :P.
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E3E,
Those Alps plate designs in the OP have a 1.25/6.25 bottom row. Because 6.25 wires are the only ones I can get for Costar stabs. If there were a source for 7u Costar stab wires, I would love to redesign the plate for 1.5/7u.
Do you think there is any case for making the plate in 6u or 7u instead of 6.25u?
Oh, derp. I should've realized that with the spacing on the HHKB-styled plate, but I didn't notice the 1.25u spacing of the mods. Well, the only arguments I can pose for 7u is that most classic Alps boards have 7u wire, and while many have Alps stabs, I've seen quite a few with Costar stabilizers too. Barring that, I'd argue that the act of buying a plate and customizing a board is far enough into the realm of DIY territory for people to bend their own wire.
Should the plates instead have support for Alps stabs and wire as opposed to Costar? What's the idea behind using Costar? AFAIK (and I could be wrong here), the plates from the Alps Party GB used Alps stab mounts.
EDIT: I just realized though. The notches on the MX plate will work just fine for Alps. I know specs say that Alps plates are thinner than MX plates, but I've had no issues on the Infinity keyboard or in the 60% universal plates I've used with Alps.
Couldn't that just be a cover-all plate design, since it uses costar as well? Er, wait... those slots are a little wider. That might be Cherry then. :-X Jeez, sorry for the ramble in anycase.
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E3E,
Those Alps plate designs in the OP have a 1.25/6.25 bottom row. Because 6.25 wires are the only ones I can get for Costar stabs. If there were a source for 7u Costar stab wires, I would love to redesign the plate for 1.5/7u.
Do you think there is any case for making the plate in 6u or 7u instead of 6.25u?
Oh, derp. I should've realized that with the spacing on the HHKB-styled plate, but I didn't notice the 1.25u spacing of the mods. Well, the only arguments I can pose for 7u is that most classic Alps boards have 7u wire, and while many have Alps stabs, I've seen quite a few with Costar stabilizers too. Barring that, I'd argue that the act of buying a plate and customizing a board is far enough into the realm of DIY territory for people to bend their own wire.
Should the plates instead have support for Alps stabs and wire as opposed to Costar? What's the idea behind using Costar? AFAIK (and I could be wrong here), the plates from the Alps Party GB used Alps stab mounts.
EDIT: I just realized though. The notches on the MX plate will work just fine for Alps. I know specs say that Alps plates are thinner than MX plates, but I've had no issues on the Infinity keyboard or in the 60% universal plates I've used with Alps.
Couldn't that just be a cover-all plate design, since it uses costar as well? Er, wait... those slots are a little wider. That might be Cherry then. :-X Jeez, sorry for the ramble in anycase.
Yeah, the MX plate would have Alps compatibility, if I redesigned the stabilizer holes to use plate mount instead of PCB mount stabs.
The Alps Party stabs were regular Alps stab holes, and stabs were sourced from Matias. I guess I should wait until I get those to decide what to do about the stabs on this one? I went with 6.25 initially, because spacebars from AT101Ws and even new keycap sets like those Tai Hao from MD include 6.25, while 7u might be harder to source. And again, the new caps use Cherry-style stab mounts, which is why I went with the Costar-style holes.
Alps is confusing, but fun.
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E3E,
Those Alps plate designs in the OP have a 1.25/6.25 bottom row. Because 6.25 wires are the only ones I can get for Costar stabs. If there were a source for 7u Costar stab wires, I would love to redesign the plate for 1.5/7u.
Do you think there is any case for making the plate in 6u or 7u instead of 6.25u?
Oh, derp. I should've realized that with the spacing on the HHKB-styled plate, but I didn't notice the 1.25u spacing of the mods. Well, the only arguments I can pose for 7u is that most classic Alps boards have 7u wire, and while many have Alps stabs, I've seen quite a few with Costar stabilizers too. Barring that, I'd argue that the act of buying a plate and customizing a board is far enough into the realm of DIY territory for people to bend their own wire.
Should the plates instead have support for Alps stabs and wire as opposed to Costar? What's the idea behind using Costar? AFAIK (and I could be wrong here), the plates from the Alps Party GB used Alps stab mounts.
EDIT: I just realized though. The notches on the MX plate will work just fine for Alps. I know specs say that Alps plates are thinner than MX plates, but I've had no issues on the Infinity keyboard or in the 60% universal plates I've used with Alps.
Couldn't that just be a cover-all plate design, since it uses costar as well? Er, wait... those slots are a little wider. That might be Cherry then. :-X Jeez, sorry for the ramble in anycase.
Yeah, the MX plate would have Alps compatibility, if I redesigned the stabilizer holes to use plate mount instead of PCB mount stabs.
The Alps Party stabs were regular Alps stab holes, and stabs were sourced from Matias. I guess I should wait until I get those to decide what to do about the stabs on this one? I went with 6.25 initially, because spacebars from AT101Ws and even new keycap sets like those Tai Hao from MD include 6.25, while 7u might be harder to source. And again, the new caps use Cherry-style stab mounts, which is why I went with the Costar-style holes.
Alps is confusing, but fun.
I'm not sure if people would be happy using plate mount stabs for Cherry switches. It seems that PCB is usually preferred, but is that just because of universal layouts or is there a significant difference otherwise?
I'm down for a plate that can take both Alps and Cherry switches + Costar and Cherry stabs. :) Yeah, I think waiting might be a good idea to see how the plates from Alps party turn out. If the dedicated Alps plates do get made though, I don't see much of an issue with using Alps stab mounting. The Alps party buy was very successful, so I think having similar plates available would sell well!
Does the AT101W use costar instead of Alps like the original AT101s? The nice thing about the Cherry stab mounts is that old Alps stabs can STILL be used with them, but that will either require some custom bent wire or the Matias stab wire that's supposed to work for both Alps and Costar (I think?)
Alps boards tend to have huge identity crises, from a plethora of different switch types in ONE model (lookin' at you Chicony 5161), to some boards using costar (with MX stab mount stems on the caps), some using alps w/ those cylindrical peg stabilizers, and some even using actual cherry stabs back in the day (my FAME straight up uses plate mount cherry stabs for the 7u space bar).
A very strange thing I've noticed is the stem spacing for 7u bars. DCS and vintage Alps 7u bars seem to have the same spacing, but Cherry-profile caps have a wider spacing. I ran into this issue a few times, but the first was on my FAME. I tried replacing the wire for an extra 7u wire I had and found that it was too long, while 6.25u was too short.
For my Duck build, the 7u space bars I originally tried (sourced from costar Alps boards) did not line up properly with the stabilizers, so I had to sacrifice some Cherry profile space bars to get that to work.
Anyway, this is a little irrelevant to the plates, sorry!
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I'm in for a plate as long as it is compatible with the lovely hasu Alps PCB. :)
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Yeah, it's probably best to hold off on the "blank corner" Alps plate for now. The full bottom row one is still good, for those who want basically a "Infinity Standard" layout (as opposed to the other Infinity design, the "HHKB3").
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Yeah, it's probably best to hold off on the "blank corner" Alps plate for now. The full bottom row one is still good, for those who want basically a "Infinity Standard" layout (as opposed to the other Infinity design, the "HHKB3").
Erring on the side of caution is always a good route to take until something is more proven. :thumb:
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Why isn't this live yet?
Factory packed with orders until Christmas. My personal GB ++.
After my GB is done, i want to do a super fast 1 week order time GB for these.
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After my GB is done, i want to do a super fast 1 week order time GB for these.
How about a pre-order before your one-week order GB?
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After my GB is done, i want to do a super fast 1 week order time GB for these.
How about a pre-order before your one-week order GB?
That is an option, however if i get more orders than i ordered first + money
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The Alps Party stabs were regular Alps stab holes, and stabs were sourced from Matias. I guess I should wait until I get those to decide what to do about the stabs on this one? I went with 6.25 initially, because spacebars from AT101Ws and even new keycap sets like those Tai Hao from MD include 6.25, while 7u might be harder to source. And again, the new caps use Cherry-style stab mounts, which is why I went with the Costar-style holes.
Alps is confusing, but fun.
I think those of us in on Alps Party daring to attempt Proper™ HHKBs with 6-U space are just grinning, bearing, and bending our own (from what we get from the Matias pack).
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The Alps Party stabs were regular Alps stab holes, and stabs were sourced from Matias. I guess I should wait until I get those to decide what to do about the stabs on this one? I went with 6.25 initially, because spacebars from AT101Ws and even new keycap sets like those Tai Hao from MD include 6.25, while 7u might be harder to source. And again, the new caps use Cherry-style stab mounts, which is why I went with the Costar-style holes.
Alps is confusing, but fun.
I think those of us in on Alps Party daring to attempt Proper™ HHKBs with 6-U space are just grinning, bearing, and bending our own (from what we get from the Matias pack).
Yep not looking forward to this part of the build very much
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The Alps Party stabs were regular Alps stab holes, and stabs were sourced from Matias. I guess I should wait until I get those to decide what to do about the stabs on this one? I went with 6.25 initially, because spacebars from AT101Ws and even new keycap sets like those Tai Hao from MD include 6.25, while 7u might be harder to source. And again, the new caps use Cherry-style stab mounts, which is why I went with the Costar-style holes.
Alps is confusing, but fun.
I think those of us in on Alps Party daring to attempt Proper™ HHKBs with 6-U space are just grinning, bearing, and bending our own (from what we get from the Matias pack).
Yep not looking forward to this part of the build very much
Oh, you'll be fine! :) Just use paper clips as trial runs for the right kind of bends you'll need, then get some piano wire of the right diameter and have at it!
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The Alps Party stabs were regular Alps stab holes, and stabs were sourced from Matias. I guess I should wait until I get those to decide what to do about the stabs on this one? I went with 6.25 initially, because spacebars from AT101Ws and even new keycap sets like those Tai Hao from MD include 6.25, while 7u might be harder to source. And again, the new caps use Cherry-style stab mounts, which is why I went with the Costar-style holes.
Alps is confusing, but fun.
I think those of us in on Alps Party daring to attempt Proper™ HHKBs with 6-U space are just grinning, bearing, and bending our own (from what we get from the Matias pack).
Yep not looking forward to this part of the build very much
Oh, you'll be fine! :) Just use paper clips as trial runs for the right kind of bends you'll need, then get some piano wire of the right diameter and have at it!
Sweet thanks man!
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I have recently become interested in a 60% Alps-switch keyboard with the HHKB layout. It would be nice if the design could support a 6.00x spacebar like it is in the actual HHKB Pro 2, but I think that 6.25x or 7.00x would be more compatible. For me, the shorter the spacebar the better (within reasonable limits). It would be fun to get a case that fills in the blank spaces on the bottom row, such as the case for the Duck Viper keyboard.
It would also be nice if the plate and PCB could support Monterey Blue switches, but this might be too difficult to make compatible with regular Alps.
I am also interested in mx -- specifically, Purple Zealio switches.
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I have recently become interested in a 60% Alps-switch keyboard with the HHKB layout. It would be nice if the design could support a 6.00x spacebar like it is in the actual HHKB Pro 2, but I think that 6.25x or 7.00x would be more compatible. For me, the shorter the spacebar the better (within reasonable limits). It would be fun to get a case that fills in the blank spaces on the bottom row, such as the case for the Duck Viper keyboard.
It would also be nice if the plate and PCB could support Monterey Blue switches, but this might be too difficult to make compatible with regular Alps.
I am also interested in mx -- specifically, Purple Zealio switches.
They were available in the Alps Party 60% buy! You can always see if anyone is willing to sell their HHKB plate. For a case design, I'd personally commission Inanis for her awesome woodworking skills and get a case made with the filled in spaces ala an HHKB. The design would have to be thought out a bit since that plate does not have those two areas cut away. You could always try and mill off those bits though, then that'd make a custom case a lot easier.
That is, if you want a high profile case; if not, you can always get one of the acrylic options available, or buy an aluminum/poly housing from GON.
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They were available in the Alps Party 60% buy! You can always see if anyone is willing to sell their HHKB plate. For a case design, I'd personally commission Inanis for her awesome woodworking skills and get a case made with the filled in spaces ala an HHKB. The design would have to be thought out a bit since that plate does not have those two areas cut away. You could always try and mill off those bits though, then that'd make a custom case a lot easier.
That is, if you want a high profile case; if not, you can always get one of the acrylic options available, or buy an aluminum/poly housing from GON.
Or 3D print a case, like MrRooks did for me with a JD45 case:
(http://i.imgur.com/0LR1YRP.jpg)
Photo credit: MrRooks
Case design: Wilba
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They were available in the Alps Party 60% buy! You can always see if anyone is willing to sell their HHKB plate. For a case design, I'd personally commission Inanis for her awesome woodworking skills and get a case made with the filled in spaces ala an HHKB. The design would have to be thought out a bit since that plate does not have those two areas cut away. You could always try and mill off those bits though, then that'd make a custom case a lot easier.
That is, if you want a high profile case; if not, you can always get one of the acrylic options available, or buy an aluminum/poly housing from GON.
Or 3D print a case, like MrRooks did for me with a JD45 case:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0LR1YRP.jpg)
Photo credit: MrRooks
Case design: Wilba
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I was definitely thinking of Ziptyze's sweet cases as another option. He has mentioned before that he might try an HHKB-style case. Very sweet custom case, JD.
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Why isn't this live yet?
Factory packed with orders until Christmas. My personal GB ++.
After my GB is done, i want to do a super fast 1 week order time GB for these.
+1 Totally down for one of these beauties! :thumb:
Just hoping I wont miss the 1 week order time somehow... ;)
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They were available in the Alps Party 60% buy! You can always see if anyone is willing to sell their HHKB plate. For a case design, I'd personally commission Inanis for her awesome woodworking skills and get a case made with the filled in spaces ala an HHKB. The design would have to be thought out a bit since that plate does not have those two areas cut away. You could always try and mill off those bits though, then that'd make a custom case a lot easier.
That is, if you want a high profile case; if not, you can always get one of the acrylic options available, or buy an aluminum/poly housing from GON.
Or 3D print a case, like MrRooks did for me with a JD45 case:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0LR1YRP.jpg)
Photo credit: MrRooks
Case design: Wilba
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I was definitely thinking of Ziptyze's sweet cases as another option. He has mentioned before that he might try an HHKB-style case. Very sweet custom case, JD.
I would totally buy one from Ziptyze. Especially if it comes with feet.
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You may consider support for:
1. Full size 2u backspace.
2. Right shift 2.75u.
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There is also going to be winkeyless 60% plates available. ISO or ANSI.
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Totally in for this GB, I wonder where to grab a PCB though
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Totally in for this GB, I wonder where to grab a PCB though
Same here!
For the PCB im probably going with one of GONs or one of the Winkeyless.kr ones that LeandreN also did a GB for. :)
Still need to hunt for another case tho! xD
Was there any info yet on the plates being available as (anodized) aluminum btw, or will it be steel only this time?
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Totally in for this GB, I wonder where to grab a PCB though
Same here!
For the PCB im probably going with one of GONs or one of the Winkeyless.kr ones that LeandreN also did a GB for. :)
Still need to hunt for another case tho! xD
Was there any info yet on the plates being available as (anodized) aluminum btw, or will it be steel only this time?
Anodized alu in 3-4 different colors.
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Anodized alu in 3-4 different colors.
Awesome! :D
Thx for the info LeandreN! <3
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Anodized alu in 3-4 different colors.
Awesome! :D
Thx for the info LeandreN! <3
No problems mate.
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Is red going to be an option for an aluminum color? if so will it match the TEX 60% aluminum case? https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=626
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Does anyone know if the PCB for KC60 support smaller right shift with an Fn key? Was wondering if I could re-program it :)
Doesn't seem to be the case :(
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What happened to the Alps plates? I was interested in buying one
I'm also interested in the HHKB MX one too, though
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If you use standoffs with these plates could you hand wire and still fit in a standard 60% case? Oh how it sucks to be saving money =(
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I am excited about this buy. I hope to pick up a HHKB layout in blue.
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In for sure :)
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This is a godsent. I was hoping winkeyless would bring back the all acrylic cases, but now they just have the aluminium and acrylic cases, which are way more. Glad I can do this instead :thumb:
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What happened to the Alps plates? I was interested in buying one
I'm also interested in the HHKB MX one too, though
I want to make sure we do everything correct so i want to do the Alps plates seperate later.
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Okay.
HHKB and Winkeyless plates for first round here. PCB mounted stabilisers(or plate, i'll see how that works out).
HHKB plates
Color/material 1
Color/material 2
Color/material 3
Winkeyless plates
Orange/aluminium
Color/material 2
Color/material 3
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Im interested in a blue plate if its offered for HHKB
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This won't happen until 14th of February. Stay tuned.
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just wondering why 7x was chosen over 6.25x? (I get not using 6.0x..). seems that 6.25x would be the more logical choice, so wanted to see what the reasoning behind it was.
also: pink (light / baby blue is my second choice) for plate / housing colors please=)
would love to make a pink hhkb.
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just wondering why 7x was chosen over 6.25x? (I get not using 6.0x..). seems that 6.25x would be the more logical choice, so wanted to see what the reasoning behind it was.
also: pink (light / baby blue is my second choice) for plate / housing colors please=)
would love to make a pink hhkb.
symmetry
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just wondering why 7x was chosen over 6.25x? (I get not using 6.0x..). seems that 6.25x would be the more logical choice, so wanted to see what the reasoning behind it was.
also: pink (light / baby blue is my second choice) for plate / housing colors please=)
would love to make a pink hhkb.
7x rocks, there is no need for a reason.
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Any chance to make the right shift optional for 2.75u and 1.75u?
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Can't wait for the 14th :DDDD I hope it comes in purple. Love me some purple. I saw there is going to be Orange and that is my second favorite color so that works tooooo :thumb: can't wait :D gonna put some 78g zealios in this.
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Any chance to make the right shift optional for 2.75u and 1.75u?
This +1
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Any chance to make the right shift optional for 2.75u and 1.75u?
This +1
1,75 + 1u only to make the switches fit nicely is first priority.
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Any chance to make the right shift optional for 2.75u and 1.75u?
This +1
1,75 + 1u only to make the switches fit nicely is first priority.
Actually, my plan is to get it the layout of 1.75 + 1u but it would be nice if we had a choice in case we might swap it in the future.
But it's all good :)
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Do the MX Winkeyless support HHKB layout as standard? If so, I'd be down for a plate and PCB with the SMD, controller etc work done
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Do the MX Winkeyless support HHKB layout as standard? If so, I'd be down for a plate and PCB with the SMD, controller etc work done
Hi pexon!
It will be one winkeyless and one HHKB ;)
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Do the MX Winkeyless support HHKB layout as standard? If so, I'd be down for a plate and PCB with the SMD, controller etc work done
From the mockup it does seems like it.
You can fill in the IC here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79244.0 :D
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Filled in.
Very interested to see what a case and PCB in HHKB layout will cost, seems to be a damn good price from the IC form
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Any chance of a plate like the bottom one with 7u spacebar and Alps stabilizer hole support?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77342.msg1947339#msg1947339
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I would warmly welcome the idea of a ISO left shift cutout.
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I would warmly welcome the idea of a ISO left shift cutout.
Yes there will be-
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I would warmly welcome the idea of a ISO left shift cutout.
Yes there will be-
You are the man.
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I'm watching for this GB. Want an aluminum HHKB layout plate for sure!
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I'm watching for this GB. Want an aluminum HHKB layout plate for sure!
Cool! Thanks for your input!
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Aaaaaand samples ordered. In the middle of the Chinese new years... Let's see how long it takes.
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Aaaaaand samples ordered. In the middle of the Chinese new years... Let's see how long it takes.
If I recall rightly, celebrations for the chinese new year begin 8 days before the new year and last 15 days after. This year the new year is due on the 8th of February, so everything could be on hold until the 23rd of the month.
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What colors are you planning to offer?
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What colors are you planning to offer?
Well you have some weeks to figure out :D
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What colors are you planning to offer?
Well you have some weeks to figure out :D
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I would be very interested in this. What are people using for the bottom part of the case?
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I would be very interested in this. What are people using for the bottom part of the case?
I have a 60% alu case sitting somewhere in my drawer.
Gonna use that haha :D
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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79315.0
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Anyone have a picture of this plate with a high profile case? I had ordered a case and then ended up buying a board with this plate on it...