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Title: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: DukeMugen on Fri, 27 November 2015, 01:44:41
Hello Guys!

any batman fans around here? just wondering if you peeps would like a BVS themed keycap.
here's an idea that came into my mind. I'm a big batman fan and i'm so pumped with the upcoming BVS movie.

I'm wondering if this kind of design would be possible, not sure. I haven't done any keycap design so this is my first.
sorry if it's just 2D, i'm not very good with 3D softwares LOL.

i'm open to any comments and suggestions, i would appreciate it! Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 27 November 2015, 04:51:00
I like it, maybe you can make the horns (ears?) more pointy when looking from the side?

edit:
not necessarily sharp of course, but like a triangle with a rounded point.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 04:59:05
I like where you're heading there. Yeah maybe make the ears just a liiittle bit more pointy.

Everything else is spot on though.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: DukeMugen on Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:03:03
I like where you're heading there. Yeah maybe make the ears just a liiittle bit more pointy.

Everything else is spot on though.
The ears arent supposed to be pointy based on the upcoming movie, thanks for the input!
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:05:30
I like where you're heading there. Yeah maybe make the ears just a liiittle bit more pointy.

Everything else is spot on though.
The ears arent supposed to be pointy based on the upcoming movie, thanks for the input!

Ah you're right, but it looks like it's tapered a bit more than the mockup? Yours look like it's going straight up.

(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/07/img-6677-143135.JPG)
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:07:37
Oh wow I did't even realized that. Only seen the trailer and nothing else so I assume it's pointy as usual.

My bad :p
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:12:19
Oh and maybe you don't have to square the base? I think you can just follow the original helmet shape and just hollow it out and stick a stem in there :D

I like it by the way, I'm not trying to be difficult.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: DukeMugen on Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:16:06
Oh wow I did't even realized that. Only seen the trailer and nothing else so I assume it's pointy as usual.

My bad
Haha! Yah you're right, should've searched for better pics like this to get a better angle. Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: romevi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 08:14:11
Maybe try a different Bats? :)
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 27 November 2015, 08:16:39
interested in where this goin
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: njbair on Fri, 27 November 2015, 08:40:34
That is a cool idea. I'm not sure how you would have it produced. 3D printed novelty caps all look pretty lousy. But if you can find a better way to do it these could turn out really nicely.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: DukeMugen on Fri, 27 November 2015, 09:19:17
Thanks guys! I'm thinking if i should make look someting like this?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: romevi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 09:27:52
Thanks guys! I'm thinking if i should make look someting like this?  ;D

Nice. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 27 November 2015, 10:54:53
I like where you're heading there. Yeah maybe make the ears just a liiittle bit more pointy.

Everything else is spot on though.
The ears arent supposed to be pointy based on the upcoming movie, thanks for the input!

Ah you're right, but it looks like it's tapered a bit more than the mockup? Yours look like it's going straight up.

Show Image
(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/07/img-6677-143135.JPG)


Oh man, all I can see with that suit is a bat helmet with a huge smiley face like this :D
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: nguyenkimtam on Fri, 27 November 2015, 13:35:09
i will join it  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: just66in on Sat, 28 November 2015, 03:44:25
Thanks guys! I'm thinking if i should make look someting like this?  ;D

I like where this is going  :p
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 28 November 2015, 03:55:15
I prefer the armor from BvS, so why not do both?  :))
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: zslane on Sat, 28 November 2015, 13:12:04
I'd love to know the licensing fee Warner Brothers is charging for this.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: monty20python on Sat, 28 November 2015, 14:21:39
Aw man, I was hoping for a bat nipple keycap
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: njbair on Sat, 28 November 2015, 21:29:55
I'd love to know the licensing fee Warner Brothers is charging for this.
Pretty sure they don't have a fee structure in place for interest checks.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 28 November 2015, 21:39:37
I think you're safer sticking with a more classic batman look for the ears. I get that you wanted to replicate the new one, but the truth is it just kind of looks like it was done wrong to those who don't know what you're going for.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: zslane on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:25:09
I'd love to know the licensing fee Warner Brothers is charging for this.
Pretty sure they don't have a fee structure in place for interest checks.

No, but the designer had better know what it's going to cost before even doing an IC so that he knows whether or not the project will even be economically feasible. License fees for properties like Batman are not small. Furthermore, it is not uncommon for there to not even be a license fee for projects under a certain size.

For example, Sony will not even have a license structure for, say, a board game based on Starship Troopers (which they hold the exclusively "entertainment" rights to) that is expected to bring in less than $100,000 in revenue.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: turboloser on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:37:47
I'd love to know the licensing fee Warner Brothers is charging for this.
Pretty sure they don't have a fee structure in place for interest checks.

No, but the designer had better know what it's going to cost before even doing an IC so that he knows whether or not the project will even be economically feasible. License fees for properties like Batman are not small. Furthermore, it is not uncommon for there to not even be a license fee for projects under a certain size.

For example, Sony will not even have a license structure for, say, a board game based on Starship Troopers (which they hold the exclusively "entertainment" rights to) that is expected to bring in less than $100,000 in revenue.

Lol, you're a funny guy.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: njbair on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:45:51
I'd love to know the licensing fee Warner Brothers is charging for this.
Pretty sure they don't have a fee structure in place for interest checks.

No, but the designer had better know what it's going to cost before even doing an IC so that he knows whether or not the project will even be economically feasible. License fees for properties like Batman are not small. Furthermore, it is not uncommon for there to not even be a license fee for projects under a certain size.

For example, Sony will not even have a license structure for, say, a board game based on Starship Troopers (which they hold the exclusively "entertainment" rights to) that is expected to bring in less than $100,000 in revenue.
Then you call it a Bat Man keycap instead of Batman or something. Lawsuit averted.

Re: Starship Troopers, I'm pretty sure the motion picture grossed less than $100K.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: turboloser on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:47:36
Then you call it a Bat Man keycap instead of Batman or something. Lawsuit averted.

Re: Starship Troopers, I'm pretty sure the motion picture grossed less than $100K.

He could call it the Batfleck cap, I mean, that's what everyone was calling him anyhow.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: njbair on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:55:30
Then you call it a Bat Man keycap instead of Batman or something. Lawsuit averted.

Re: Starship Troopers, I'm pretty sure the motion picture grossed less than $100K.

He could call it the Batfleck cap, I mean, that's what everyone was calling him anyhow.
Genius. That actually makes me want to buy more.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: Waateva on Sun, 29 November 2015, 20:28:05
I'd love to know the licensing fee Warner Brothers is charging for this.
Pretty sure they don't have a fee structure in place for interest checks.

No, but the designer had better know what it's going to cost before even doing an IC so that he knows whether or not the project will even be economically feasible. License fees for properties like Batman are not small. Furthermore, it is not uncommon for there to not even be a license fee for projects under a certain size.

For example, Sony will not even have a license structure for, say, a board game based on Starship Troopers (which they hold the exclusively "entertainment" rights to) that is expected to bring in less than $100,000 in revenue.
Then you call it a Bat Man keycap instead of Batman or something. Lawsuit averted.

Re: Starship Troopers, I'm pretty sure the motion picture grossed less than $100K.

Hey hey, leave Starship Troopers alone!
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: DukeMugen on Sun, 29 November 2015, 20:30:11
I'd love to know the licensing fee Warner Brothers is charging for this.
Pretty sure they don't have a fee structure in place for interest checks.

No, but the designer had better know what it's going to cost before even doing an IC so that he knows whether or not the project will even be economically feasible. License fees for properties like Batman are not small. Furthermore, it is not uncommon for there to not even be a license fee for projects under a certain size.

For example, Sony will not even have a license structure for, say, a board game based on Starship Troopers (which they hold the exclusively "entertainment" rights to) that is expected to bring in less than $100,000 in revenue.

Does that mean the people who did the ironman and the darth vader caps also paid for licensing fees? :(
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: turboloser on Mon, 30 November 2015, 00:30:14
Does that mean the people who did the ironman and the darth vader caps also paid for licensing fees? :(

No, lol.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 30 November 2015, 01:27:13
I'd love to know the licensing fee Warner Brothers is charging for this.
Pretty sure they don't have a fee structure in place for interest checks.

No, but the designer had better know what it's going to cost before even doing an IC so that he knows whether or not the project will even be economically feasible. License fees for properties like Batman are not small. Furthermore, it is not uncommon for there to not even be a license fee for projects under a certain size.

For example, Sony will not even have a license structure for, say, a board game based on Starship Troopers (which they hold the exclusively "entertainment" rights to) that is expected to bring in less than $100,000 in revenue.

Wait, are you actually serious?
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: zslane on Mon, 30 November 2015, 13:13:04
Well, characters like Batman, Ironman, and so forth are IP owned by entertainment entities that require license fees for products sold that either use the trademarked name or are actionably close in appearance to a specific known rendering (like from a movie). Even Funko Pop! vinyl figures, which are heavily stylized, pay licensing fees.

I guess everyone is smirking at me because they are so very proud of themselves for flying under the radar of entities like Warner Brothers and Disney and getting away with IP violations? Bravo.

Try designing a keycap set with, say, a recognizable Batman logo as a novelty key, and see how far you get with SP...
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: Zorberema on Tue, 01 December 2015, 15:51:14
Well, characters like Batman, Ironman, and so forth are IP owned by entertainment entities that require license fees for products sold that either use the trademarked name or are actionably close in appearance to a specific known rendering (like from a movie). Even Funko Pop! vinyl figures, which are heavily stylized, pay licensing fees.

I guess everyone is smirking at me because they are so very proud of themselves for flying under the radar of entities like Warner Brothers and Disney and getting away with IP violations? Bravo.

Try designing a keycap set with, say, a recognizable Batman logo as a novelty key, and see how far you get with SP...

The thing is, for example funko, mass markets their product as an "Iron Man" figure, which is copyrighted by Marvel. If they called it Mron Ian, they would not break any copyright laws, as they altered it slightly. In funko's case, they would loose customers heavily if they choose to say it was another character, as their products are made for hardcore fans/ collectors.

If you would just call this cap "BatArmor" Keycap, there would be nothing anyone could do about it, as it has no connection to warner bros whatsoever, except a slight recemblence.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 01 December 2015, 15:56:46
I guess everyone is smirking at me because they are so very proud of themselves for flying under the radar of entities like Warner Brothers and Disney and getting away with IP violations? Bravo.

People have been doing this forever and there's literally just never been a problem. Look at holyoops, or the literally blatant EVA set that Feng sold. With companies like SP it's just a matter of changing the name, have you ever heard of the Troubled Minds?
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 02 December 2015, 00:50:49
Def interested in this!  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: monty20python on Wed, 02 December 2015, 21:59:15
Well, characters like Batman, Ironman, and so forth are IP owned by entertainment entities that require license fees for products sold that either use the trademarked name or are actionably close in appearance to a specific known rendering (like from a movie). Even Funko Pop! vinyl figures, which are heavily stylized, pay licensing fees.

I guess everyone is smirking at me because they are so very proud of themselves for flying under the radar of entities like Warner Brothers and Disney and getting away with IP violations? Bravo.

Try designing a keycap set with, say, a recognizable Batman logo as a novelty key, and see how far you get with SP...

The thing is, for example funko, mass markets their product as an "Iron Man" figure, which is copyrighted by Marvel. If they called it Mron Ian, they would not break any copyright laws, as they altered it slightly. In funko's case, they would loose customers heavily if they choose to say it was another character, as their products are made for hardcore fans/ collectors.

If you would just call this cap "BatArmor" Keycap, there would be nothing anyone could do about it, as it has no connection to warner bros whatsoever, except a slight recemblence.

I'm pretty sure Mron Ian isn't sufficiently different to avoid a successful lawsuit. However, with artisan keycaps (IANAL, and 3d printing is even more ambiguous) you can probably claim it as a 'derivative work' if you were to 'copy' a copyrighted work as long as you didn't literally copy it onto the keycap.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: dthai17 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 05:48:03
this needs to happen after that trailer
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 03 December 2015, 05:48:30
this needs to happen after that trailer

+1
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 07 December 2015, 20:34:51
Thanks guys! I'm thinking if i should make look someting like this?  ;D

I think going with this design would give you clearance issue with the pointy ears unless youll do it facing forward instead of upward. I like the original render except the height youre planning on doing with the cap. I would suggest to eliminate all the excess height and just make it look a head cap and work on the switch clearance to make it fit with that profile. GL!
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: YMSNoms on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:41:01
I wish for this.
Title: Re: [IC] BVS Batman Armor Keycap
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 16 December 2015, 14:02:19
Thanks guys! I'm thinking if i should make look someting like this?  ;D

I'd like this more tbh