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Title: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: reallifetim on Thu, 03 December 2015, 12:48:13
Hey guys new GH user here. I'm loving all the information on this forum and it feels like ages since I've joined a forum!

I am on /r/mechanicalkeyboards quite a bit lately under the same username.

So far my mech addiction started with a Posideon by TT with Gateron blues, my next purchase was a KBParadise V60 with Cherry Greens and my most recent purchase was an original Noppo Choc Mini with Cherry Reds.

I included an imgur album with some basic shots, sans my V60 as it is getting pulled apart and upgraded to a new case.
http://imgur.com/a/JnQ4y (http://imgur.com/a/JnQ4y)

I am also on the hunt for a complete set of Authentic Cherry keys, cheers guys!
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: demik on Thu, 03 December 2015, 13:22:57
Topre kingdom > ****rry
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: reallifetim on Thu, 03 December 2015, 13:44:09
I really like stiff switches, Blues quickly became too soft. I'm loving Cherry Greens. Topre will probably be my next venture, any suggestions on a Topre KB?
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 03 December 2015, 13:52:42
Topre kingdom > ****rry

hhkb FO LYFE
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 03 December 2015, 13:54:36
I really like stiff switches, Blues quickly became too soft. I'm loving Cherry Greens. Topre will probably be my next venture, any suggestions on a Topre KB?

HHKB, the be-all and end-all.

Praise be to Topre.
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: reallifetim on Thu, 03 December 2015, 14:24:49
I really like stiff switches, Blues quickly became too soft. I'm loving Cherry Greens. Topre will probably be my next venture, any suggestions on a Topre KB?

HHKB, the be-all and end-all.

Praise be to Topre.

Right on, I'm in the dark about Topre switches, do they have different classifications (colors) like Cherry or is it one switch?
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 03 December 2015, 14:50:43
I really like stiff switches, Blues quickly became too soft. I'm loving Cherry Greens. Topre will probably be my next venture, any suggestions on a Topre KB?

HHKB, the be-all and end-all.

Praise be to Topre.

Right on, I'm in the dark about Topre switches, do they have different classifications (colors) like Cherry or is it one switch?

Technically one switch, however you can get springs with different weights (35g, 45g, 55g IIRC).

The HHKB comes with 45g, and the only way to get higher is to swap them from a donor board (such as a Realforce 87U, another Topre board).


(https://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/topreswitch405.png)
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: reallifetim on Thu, 03 December 2015, 15:08:43
I really like stiff switches, Blues quickly became too soft. I'm loving Cherry Greens. Topre will probably be my next venture, any suggestions on a Topre KB?

HHKB, the be-all and end-all.

Praise be to Topre.

Right on, I'm in the dark about Topre switches, do they have different classifications (colors) like Cherry or is it one switch?

Technically one switch, however you can get springs with different weights (35g, 45g, 55g IIRC).

The HHKB comes with 45g, and the only way to get higher is to swap them from a donor board (such as a Realforce 87U, another Topre board).


Show Image
(https://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/topreswitch405.png)


So it looks like they are a lot lighter of a switch? The documentation I can find for Topre springs looks like their stiffest spring is around 55 cN, Cherry Greens are at about 80 cN.
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: demik on Thu, 03 December 2015, 16:48:19
Praise thy church of HHKB.


Btw I like greens also. I love heavy clicky switches 


Not more than 55g topre tho.
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: inanis on Thu, 03 December 2015, 16:54:54
So it looks like they are a lot lighter of a switch? The documentation I can find for Topre springs looks like their stiffest spring is around 55 cN, Cherry Greens are at about 80 cN.
Topre isn't measured by the spring weight, it is the dome weight. 55g is the stiffest. I like strong switches too. Greens or heavy linears. However...the HHKB is the bestest. Gotta try it to understand. Topre is just different.

As previously said...praise be to Topre.
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: reallifetim on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:04:35
So it looks like they are a lot lighter of a switch? The documentation I can find for Topre springs looks like their stiffest spring is around 55 cN, Cherry Greens are at about 80 cN.
Topre isn't measured by the spring weight, it is the dome weight. 55g is the stiffest. I like strong switches too. Greens or heavy linears. However...the HHKB is the bestest. Gotta try it to understand. Topre is just different.

As previously said...praise be to Topre.

I'm convinced, I was just trying to figure out the stiffest Topre setup. I guess I'll be on the hunt for a HHKB with 55g, thanks!
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: demik on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:10:11
So it looks like they are a lot lighter of a switch? The documentation I can find for Topre springs looks like their stiffest spring is around 55 cN, Cherry Greens are at about 80 cN.
Topre isn't measured by the spring weight, it is the dome weight. 55g is the stiffest. I like strong switches too. Greens or heavy linears. However...the HHKB is the bestest. Gotta try it to understand. Topre is just different.

As previously said...praise be to Topre.

I'm convinced, I was just trying to figure out the stiffest Topre setup. I guess I'll be on the hunt for a HHKB with 55g, thanks!

you're only getting 55g hhkb if it's been modded. hhkb only comes in 45g.

but if you want the best 55g, get an RF 87u. plate mounted 55g is godly.
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 03 December 2015, 18:06:07
So it looks like they are a lot lighter of a switch? The documentation I can find for Topre springs looks like their stiffest spring is around 55 cN, Cherry Greens are at about 80 cN.
Topre isn't measured by the spring weight, it is the dome weight. 55g is the stiffest. I like strong switches too. Greens or heavy linears. However...the HHKB is the bestest. Gotta try it to understand. Topre is just different.

As previously said...praise be to Topre.

I'm convinced, I was just trying to figure out the stiffest Topre setup. I guess I'll be on the hunt for a HHKB with 55g, thanks!

HHKB's are OK. It's no Ergodox though. Typing on an Ergodox w/ Salmon Alps is an unparalleled experience.
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 04 December 2015, 07:43:41
Greens are love, Greens are life.
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 04 December 2015, 07:46:54
Love HHKB, you will.
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: reallifetim on Fri, 04 December 2015, 08:48:27
Greens are love, Greens are life.

I have a feeling I will love a HHKB but in the back of my mind I know you are right. Nothing comes close to the feel of greens with a nice DCS set  :thumb:
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 04 December 2015, 13:02:13
hhkb is stoopid http://xahlee.info/kbd/idiocy_of_happy_hacking_keyboard.html
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 04 December 2015, 13:04:04
hhkb is stoopid http://xahlee.info/kbd/idiocy_of_happy_hacking_keyboard.html

gtfo heathen
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 04 December 2015, 13:13:11
hhkb is stoopid http://xahlee.info/kbd/idiocy_of_happy_hacking_keyboard.html

gtfo heathen

no fn keys dumb board
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 04 December 2015, 13:17:13
hhkb is stoopid http://xahlee.info/kbd/idiocy_of_happy_hacking_keyboard.html

gtfo heathen

no fn keys dumb board

hasu's controller

next
Title: Re: Entering the Clack kingdom
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 06 December 2015, 03:41:56
Welcome to Geekhack!

Topre switches have a different feel to MX, a different force curve, and a different sound.

I like heavier switches too (clears, blacks, greens) but I love my HHKB even though it is "only" 45g.  Topre has more resistance up front, and thus feels a bit heavier than the very roughly equivalent MX switches, say browns.

If you can, go to a keyboard meetup (links usually posted in off topic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=33.0)) and see if anyone takes along an HHKB that you can try.