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Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 18 November 2009, 10:50:33

Brian O Neill (http://cgi.ebay.ie/1991-IBM-Model-M-Space-Saver-Keyboard-1391472-Unit-373_W0QQitemZ130345560832QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item1e59336b00#ht_1235wt_941)

NIB one from the usual guy. (http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=180432964713&Category=33963&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2#ht_1178wt_1167)

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: rdjack21 on Wed, 18 November 2009, 13:44:27

It will be interesting to see how high that NIB one goes.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Wed, 18 November 2009, 13:47:58

why do people always butcher 'NIB'?

NIB
New In Box

not New Out Of Box
not I Tested It But Thats It
not Basically New And I Still Have The Box

NEW IN BOX

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 18 November 2009, 13:49:23

I think "I Tested It But Thats It" In Box is miles better than regular vanilla NIB.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: didjamatic on Wed, 18 November 2009, 13:50:55

Is his storename "rarekeybroadstore" a typo or on purpose?  Didn't his eBay ID used to be Brian O Neil?

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Wed, 18 November 2009, 13:51:32

well hey, i have a NIB "tested" HHKB that i will sell you for the going NIB rate of $280.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Wed, 18 November 2009, 14:02:55

well thats what i mean,

and i know that ebay is kind of limiting with the general choices, "New" or "Used", but im tired of seeing ***NIB*** tacked on the end of stuff that "i just tested".  i have found its especially bad with CPUs on ebay... people in search of the golden overclocker will buy five, 'test' them all, and sell 4 of them ***NIB*** for what they originally paid, telling people "i took it out of the box for testing".  they mean "overclocking potential assessment that almost ruined it" but people read "what a nice guy".

i understand picking "New" over "Used" for something like this, but describe in the title/auction that it is not ***NIB***

New, Sealed, Mint (thanks ripster)
New, Sealed
New, Open-Box / Tested
Used (and all the various descriptors that go with that)

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 18 November 2009, 14:15:36

I bought a mini "NIB" but the box was open. The seller was cleaning out someones basement or something. I took his word for it and he seemed genuine. I get it and of course, had to take it out of the box to eyeball it. I think I typed on it for 5 minutes. Yeah, it works. I put it back in the box and it sits in my closet.
When I do get around to selling it I intend to list it as NIB.
Because really, it is.

What I don't like about 'New, Open-Box/Tested' is I have no idea how long it was 'tested'. Was the tester eating Cheetos? Was the 'testers' cat sleeping on it?
Not everyone abides by the same standards. And it can be a bit of a crapshoot getting stuff off of e-bay. You pay your money and take your chances I guess.

Ideally, it would be a sealed box but I haven't seen to many of those around.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Wed, 18 November 2009, 14:22:19

no, its not new in box.

for the drop-down, choose "new"
for the title, type "new"
in the description, say "NEW - Tested"

the lack of standards is the problem i am talking about.  my tested HHKB is for sale for $280.  but you cant play into the game, just be honest about it... actually say, in the ad, "i used it for 5mins to test it, clean environment, that's it" like you just told me.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 18 November 2009, 14:30:48

Quote from: didjamatic;133737

Is his storename "rarekeybroadstore" a typo or on purpose?  Didn't his eBay ID used to be Brian O Neil?

His store used to be "IBMstuff4less". I'm not sure whether he has that store for non-keyboard stuff, or whether he just switched to concentrating on keyboards.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 18 November 2009, 14:32:43

Quote from: didjamatic;133737

Is his storename "rarekeybroadstore" a typo or on purpose? Didn't his eBay ID used to be Brian O Neil?

No, I think he sells these:
 
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4985242/2/istockphoto_4985242-sexy-lady-on-piano.jpg)

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Wed, 18 November 2009, 14:47:08

kind of edgy for a stock photo

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 18 November 2009, 14:54:35

SleazeBay.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 18 November 2009, 17:34:34

I wouldn't call that edgy. More like flamboyant.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Wed, 18 November 2009, 17:42:52

im not saying it bothers me, but stock photos generally try to be as politically correct as possible

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: J888www on Wed, 18 November 2009, 18:28:52

What I really like to know is how many more **NIB** does she still have for sale. It seems that as time passes, these M Minis are becoming less and less rare.

Edit:   If Trixie continues to saturate the populace with vast amounts of M Minis, then it would not be scarce so it would not be rare.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 22 November 2009, 22:06:14

a New In Box keyboard that was taken out of the box just to make sure it worked but is also sold AS-IS and also the cord happens to be a little dirty*








* also if you read this lengthy colorful ad you will finally find the hidden $6 handling charge, which is in fact explicitly against ebay rules


ebay makes me so ****ing angry sometimes

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 22 November 2009, 22:30:04

huh, so everybody does it now.

i love well shipped stuff too.  but see, i really hate people who will lie to me, like these two auctions do.  at the top, there is price, and SHIPPING.  ebay says you cannot go and charge some extra "handling" charge like that...

he knew what it was when he listed it.  he knew what size box he would have to put it in.  he sat there and typed in a false shipping charge.  it's a lie.

if you think your packing is so great, and want to distinguish yourself from the rest, POST PICTURES OF YOUR EXCELLENT PACKING, don't trick people into buying your stuff... effectively, that is what he is doing: taking precedence over other items and deceiving the buyer.

people like this should be warned, then banned from ebay.  ebay stops the "xbox, only $1!  and $299 shipping" crap, which wasn't near as bad by comparison... because price+shipping is price+shipping, and cheapest comes first if that is how you are sorting.  who cares how the seller organizes it in his mind.  but these two guys just throw in an arbitrary third value... one that the other 50 items on the page do not have... "oh, because of the handling, im so special and careful, i need more money..."

(http://i.ebayimg.com/13/!BfWfegQBmk~$(KGrHqUH-CsEreuh7QmdBL!6bT4MJQ~~_3.JPG)

yeah, that's so ****ing above and beyond that you need to con people to fund it.

reported both of them.  almost couldn't decide between "additional purchase offered or required" or "excessive shipping and handling"

i know everyone really likes these guys, so i hope they dont go out of business over $1/$6.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 23 November 2009, 03:27:47

OMFG GUIZ, HE CHARGES ONE DOLLAR TO MAKE SURE THE ITEM ARRIVES IN GOOD CONDITION, BUT IT'S TECHNICALLY AGAINST REGULATIONS!!!!11111.

Give the guy a ****ing break...

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 23 November 2009, 11:21:43

so thats standard practice now?  mcdonalds going to start charging you an extra dollar, to make sure the coffee doesnt get dropped on the way across the desk?

its a ****ing joke of a business policy, so yes, OMFG GUIZ

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 23 November 2009, 11:41:13

I get the OMFG, but what does the GUIZ mean?
just an old guy trying to keep up.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:03:17

guys

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:05:54

???
whaaa?
ripster...

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:17:44

yeah, I suppose AG would be closer.
lol, are you building a file on me?

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: J888www on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:22:17

Sometimes it isn't about the money, it's about being conned/scammed and just as you thought you have become a little wiser, you get scammed again. It just gnaws into your Soul.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:25:57

Quote from: ripster;133743

Technically it's MISB - Mint In Sealed Box is what collectors want.  Don't get me started on LegoLand - there are some serious collectors out there.

Yeah, the Japanese and Korean collectors take their keyboards seriously!

A small nick or scratch can make the difference between receiving a top dollar premium or standard "market" price.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:29:28

I still come here everyday, I just ran out of things to say : )

I CH was ok, but I wasn't able to map the top two buttons. I forget exactly  but it seemed fixed depending on what dip switches were set. Overall it was ok. I ended up selling it to a gh member.
I still use the kensington expert. Its just a great trackball. I would like to try the new slimblade but would like to touch one first before laying out the cash. Right now, for me anyways, it would be hard to beat the expert.
I have an older kensington expert which is mechanical. Its pretty good too, just wish it had the scroll wheel.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:34:09

Quote from: J888www;135585

Sometimes it isn't about the money, it's about being conned/scammed and just as you thought you have become a little wiser, you get scammed again. It just gnaws into your Soul.

For most of us, it's never just about the money.  It's about getting our hands on that new keyboard that may be very similar to the 15 we already own, but we still have to have it for our collection.

Most of us have been scammed at least once.  But only the less evolved (OK, only the idiots) would fall for the same scam more than once.

I can't relate to the "gnaws into your soul" stuff.  After all, we're only talking about keyboards.  Anyone who continually gets taken for a ride has much bigger issues than what would be apparent on a keyboard forum.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:34:19

Quote from: ripster;135592

Yeah.  I'd have to be crazy to buy something like that. (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9231/subcatid/0/id/434291)

wow that's fresh :D

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:36:39

I did awhile back when he first got it. He seemed postive about it but something tells me its not his daily driver. He did mention that it caused him some pain, at least initially.

If some one here has one for sale, let me know.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:38:48

Quote from: ripster;135592

Yeah.  I'd have to be crazy to buy something like that. (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9231/subcatid/0/id/434291)

Very funny rip.

I would give my eye teeth for that particular NIB keyboard.

I hope that particular keyboard was not sold recently.

Brandon promised to give me first dibs on a NIB IBM PC AT 84-key.

Who knows, one day I might just make a Japanese collector an offer he can't refuse  :)

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:44:22

Quote from: ripster;135598

Just to be clear if anybody wanders in here my personal opinion is NEITHER of these two sellers can be considered in any way "Scammers".

My soul can take a lot more than packaging upcharges.  Life is too short to sweat the small stuff.

Just to be clear, if anyone innocent wanders in this formum, the only members who presume their personal opinions are meaningful are ripster and webwit.  The rest of us are just riff raff.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:46:08

Quote from: ripster;135599

You're not going to like this but I don't think Brandon works that way.  He posts, it's first come first served, which is the way I think it should be.

I thought we had a deal damn it!  $$$ should trump everything else  :)

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:49:07

man, don't invoke the name of webwit. He is going to swoop in here and drop some napalm. All shock and awe....

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 12:50:57

Quote from: ripster;135603

Hey, it's just my opinion!

Unfortunately, you're probably right.  I need to have a serious discussion with Brandon.  His best customers should be entitled to some modest perks.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 13:00:33

Quote from: bigpook;135604

man, don't invoke the name of webwit. He is going to swoop in here and drop some napalm. All shock and awe....

More likely to drop some schlock and bore  :)

Seriously, I like webwit.  Love him or hate him, you have to admit his posts are generally well thought out and informative, not to mention entertaining.

He is essential to much of geekhack's character and personality.  Like any good novel, we need to have a resident scoundrel.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 13:12:59

Oops, way off topic again.

I'll have to me more cognizant of my posts lest I raise the ire of ripster and others.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 23 November 2009, 13:20:47

what about...

SIX DOLLARS?

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 23 November 2009, 13:22:28

the fly has spoken to the spider....

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 23 November 2009, 14:56:57

I have to say that you are the lego master. Thats pretty good stuff.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: ricercar on Mon, 23 November 2009, 15:21:21

Quote from: itlnstln;133765

No, I think he sells these:
 

Show Image

(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4985242/2/istockphoto_4985242-sexy-lady-on-piano.jpg)

The woman or the piano?

I sense some pianist envy, regardless.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 24 November 2009, 08:29:30

So AndrewZorn, how goes The People vs Brian O' Neill?

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Tue, 24 November 2009, 11:45:41

still waiting on ebay's response.  nevertheless, brian oneill has already lost.  the bums always lose.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 24 November 2009, 12:29:32

Best seller of IBM keyboards on eBay with great customer service. Yeah, what a bum...

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: AndrewZorn on Tue, 24 November 2009, 13:32:59

hey, if $1 is so damned insignificant, why does he need to break rules and use fine print to collect it?

you think i have never paid for a box to send someone something on ebay?

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: Shawn Stanford on Tue, 24 November 2009, 14:27:32

FWIW: I always include the cost of the box in the shipping estimate when I sell on eBay.

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: J888www on Tue, 24 November 2009, 14:41:45

Just received a surprise from Parcel Force in regard to my purchase of an item from "The Usual Guy (Woman)". On top of the total cost of purchase ($195), includes Shipping, I now have to pay an additional £30 for VAT. :frusty:
  Wish this "Usual Guy" had a Woman's common sense to declare the item to be approximately $40, so it's no more purchases from this "Usual Guy" from now on (was going to bid for two more NIB for my dearest ones). Value Added Tax on a second-hand item (something is gnawing into my Soul yet again).

TYVM for the transaction Trixie Pratt (The Usual Guy)

Title: 2x Model M Minis
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 29 November 2009, 09:49:23

That's pretty expensive!