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Title: Star Wars thread
Post by: piemancoder on Wed, 16 December 2015, 22:24:18
Which Star Wars movies are the best/worst,who are your favorite charcters, how much do you hate Jar Jar, etc. Talk about anything Star Wars related!  ;D

A note about spoilers or theories: If you're saying a spoiler, or a theory, please clearly say it's a spoiler/theory and please put it in a spoiler box 
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: neverused on Wed, 16 December 2015, 22:29:27
Empire Strikes Back is the best episode.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Sinanju on Wed, 16 December 2015, 22:40:55
A note about spoilers or theories: If you're saying a spoiler, or a theory, please clearly say it's a spoiler/theory and please put it in a spoiler box
Cannot stress that point enough.


Anyways, I always loved anything Clone/Storm trooper related. Anything w/ mandalorian armor too.  Liked how some units had their own different colors, or armor to differentiate each other.
In my opinion:  Phase II Armor > Storm Trooper > Phase I Armor
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/5/57/Clone_Troopers_Phase_II.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070422175536)

Looking forward to the TFA as the new storm trooper armor looks awesome.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: RoastPotatoes on Wed, 16 December 2015, 23:14:49
I've just seen the force awakens and I was quite impressed. It is different from all the rest, but I think it is a nice addition to the star wars universe. Seeing another star wars film at the cinema was incredible and there were some scenes where I was just so engrossed I didn't really think it possible.


I'm hyped up.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 17 December 2015, 03:54:48
I still prefer the original 3.

The next 3 were too artificial, too politically correct.

I'll probably see the new one anyway.  Eventually.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 17 December 2015, 04:00:26
I'm on my marathon and currently on III. I got VI after that and tomorrow gonna go see VII.

So far I'm liking ep V the most.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 17 December 2015, 04:13:27
Impression of Jar Jar Binks?  Is there anyone actually likes him?

Once I worked out what he was saying, he was amusing, for a while.  But kinda grates on the nerves eventually.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 17 December 2015, 04:28:09
Jar jar is awesome if it's true that he's a sith, which is currently debatable.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 17 December 2015, 07:25:55
Impression of Jar Jar Binks?  Is there anyone actually likes him?

Once I worked out what he was saying, he was amusing, for a while.  But kinda grates on the nerves eventually.

I was also slightly amused for a few minutes, until I realized that he was not going to be a minor disposable character.

That #1 film had the potential to have been very good, Qui-Gon was a great character, but the cartoonish  aspects like having an 8-year-old penniless slave boy build and pilot an insane racing vehicle were just too ridiculous, Force or no.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: piemancoder on Thu, 17 December 2015, 07:40:06
Is anyone else going to watch a marathon I veer the weekend? I plan on doing that since all of the theatres here are really crowded :(
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: mobbo on Thu, 17 December 2015, 07:44:04
Am I the only one that thinks Jar Jar was completely tolerable compared to angsty little Annie and those initial awkward advances towards Padme in Episode II?
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 17 December 2015, 15:17:22
I saw Padme as a modern version of Princess Leia.  With different hair.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 18 December 2015, 01:25:54
Watch the whole 2 mins. Worth it.


Ahhhh memories of Scribble Jam...
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 18 December 2015, 01:28:49
Sitting in the IMAX booth now. I can tell you all exactly what happens....
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 18 December 2015, 01:29:31
Sitting in the IMAX booth now. I can tell you all exactly what happens....

Can you just FaceTime it to me, plz? Thanks.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 18 December 2015, 02:52:57
The movie was insanely good. Even my noob wifey was loving every minute of it.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 18 December 2015, 04:08:29
Has anyone played this yet?

Use your phone as a lightsaber to control your computer screen. :))
https://lightsaber.withgoogle.com/experience
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 18 December 2015, 04:16:23

You won't regret watching this. I promise.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: filphil on Fri, 18 December 2015, 07:34:33
A while back I wiki'd some parts of the star wars novels since I don't read for pleasure.  From what I remember the story has been somewhat altered?  I thought the movie was a great watch but if anyone wants to talk about differences I'd be down.

Spoiler
Like how they imply that Rey is part of the skywalker lineage and now the name of solo's son is ben(but Darth Caedus was always solo's son)?  Or maybe I read that scene wrong.  It's been a while since I read up on the lore.
Dear god spoiler
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 18 December 2015, 14:34:19
Impression of Jar Jar Binks?  Is there anyone actually likes him?
I do Star Wars costuming sometimes, in a semi-professional group. We have a guy who dresses up and acts as Jar-Jar Binks. Believe it or not but he is always very appreciated by the public.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: piemancoder on Fri, 18 December 2015, 16:41:01
A while back I wiki'd some parts of the star wars novels since I don't read for pleasure.  From what I remember the story has been somewhat altered?  I thought the movie was a great watch but if anyone wants to talk about differences I'd be down.

Spoiler
Like how they imply that Rey is part of the skywalker lineage and now the name of solo's son is ben(but Darth Caedus was always solo's son)?  Or maybe I read that scene wrong.  It's been a while since I read up on the lore.
Dear god spoiler

Don't look at the spoiler. Don't look at the spoiler. Just 2 more weeks. You can do it. Come on Me, don't look at the spoiler.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: filphil on Fri, 18 December 2015, 19:18:35
A while back I wiki'd some parts of the star wars novels since I don't read for pleasure.  From what I remember the story has been somewhat altered?  I thought the movie was a great watch but if anyone wants to talk about differences I'd be down.

Spoiler
Like how they imply that Rey is part of the skywalker lineage and now the name of solo's son is ben(but Darth Caedus was always solo's son)?  Or maybe I read that scene wrong.  It's been a while since I read up on the lore.
Dear god spoiler

Don't look at the spoiler. Don't look at the spoiler. Just 2 more weeks. You can do it. Come on Me, don't look at the spoiler.

Destroy your computer bruh. The Internet is full of vermin looking to spoil you.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 18 December 2015, 19:34:32
Believe it or not but he is always very appreciated by the public.

Humor and comic relief are essential. Geeks and nerds are far too serious most of the time anyway.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:03:33
(https://d1u1p2xjjiahg3.cloudfront.net/3b3d5668-4982-440a-9306-70c1342dd45a.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:04:50
i've never seen any of the star wars
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:18:24
i've never seen any of the star wars

you what....  :'(
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:26:18
i've never seen any of the star wars

you what....  :'(

yeah man

my coworker has been trying to get me to watch the machete order, but i just haven't gotten around to downloading them all (minus ep. 1)
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: piemancoder on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:55:46
i've never seen any of the star wars

you what....  :'(

yeah man

my coworker has been trying to get me to watch the machete order, but i just haven't gotten around to downloading them all (minus ep. 1)

It's completely worth it. For me at least, but I know very few people who didn't like it.

There was an order (not the first order :p) that I heard about, but I forget it's name. I believe it went 4-5-2-3-6. It might be the one you mentioned, since I know it excluded Episode 1. Also, has anyone here heard about The Phantom Edit? It was a fan remake of The Phantom Menace that fixed quite a few bad things. I've heard good things about it, but I haven't watched it yet.

One last thing, whatever you do, DO NOT WATCH THE STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL. When it came out it was terrible, and it still is terrible.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:57:54
4-5-2-3-6

that's the order

i should really add them to my download queue...
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: piemancoder on Fri, 18 December 2015, 21:02:35

Show Image
(https://d1u1p2xjjiahg3.cloudfront.net/3b3d5668-4982-440a-9306-70c1342dd45a.jpg)


For me, yeah probably.

A while back I wiki'd some parts of the star wars novels since I don't read for pleasure.  From what I remember the story has been somewhat altered?  I thought the movie was a great watch but if anyone wants to talk about differences I'd be down.

Spoiler
Like how they imply that Rey is part of the skywalker lineage and now the name of solo's son is ben(but Darth Caedus was always solo's son)?  Or maybe I read that scene wrong.  It's been a while since I read up on the lore.
Dear god spoiler

Don't look at the spoiler. Don't look at the spoiler. Just 2 more weeks. You can do it. Come on Me, don't look at the spoiler.

Destroy your computer bruh. The Internet is full of vermin looking to spoil you.

 I must destroy ALL THE COMPUTERS! Goes to hack Steam and make a fake Half-Life 3 page which when discovered, will make the internet crash because of all the excitement

Edit: fixed stupid formatting mistake
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: filphil on Fri, 18 December 2015, 21:07:08
4-5-2-3-6

that's the order

i should really add them to my download queue...

You could watch the force awakens without any prior knowledge of star wars but you just won't have the appreciation for the little eggs and nostalgia goggles would mean nothing to you.

IIRC there was a very quick but in your face scene where fin grabs the automatic droid that trained luke skywalker how to parry beams with his light saber and tossed it to the side. 
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 18 December 2015, 21:09:11
I started my marathon on Monday as well to prepare for the new one.

I *think* I get the gist of the story and that's all I need anyway. Don't wanna get too deep into the whole universe.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: piemancoder on Sat, 19 December 2015, 09:41:40
4-5-2-3-6

that's the order

i should really add them to my download queue...

You could watch the force awakens without any prior knowledge of star wars but you just won't have the appreciation for the little eggs and nostalgia goggles would mean nothing to you.

IIRC there was a very quick but in your face scene where fin grabs the automatic droid that trained luke skywalker how to parry beams with his light saber and tossed it to the side.

Spoiler!
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: piemancoder on Sun, 20 December 2015, 18:02:49
So who here has seen the new movie? Is it worth watching?
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: FLFisherman on Sun, 20 December 2015, 18:32:56
So who here has seen the new movie? Is it worth watching?

Me and yes. You shouldn't have to ask us that.  :D
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 20 December 2015, 18:44:11
So who here has seen the new movie? Is it worth watching?

Me and yes. You shouldn't have to ask us that.  :D

i loved it. :)  it was better than cats.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: romevi on Sun, 20 December 2015, 19:00:12
I don't get why people need certain watching orders. For me I always go by how they were released chronologically. That's the way they were released and that's the way the first viewers had to go by, so that's what I parallel.

But yes, TFA is fantastic, warts and all.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 20 December 2015, 19:12:23
I find the venom that is spewed towards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_The_Phantom_Menace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_The_Phantom_Menace) to be pretty silly and seriously misplaced. Yes, it would have been far better without the retarded Jar-Jar and the infantile Anakin, but it is not really much more childish than the rest of them. And I thought that Qui-Gon was an excellent character that was killed off and squandered early.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: romevi on Sun, 20 December 2015, 19:17:20
I find the venom that is spewed towards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_The_Phantom_Menace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_The_Phantom_Menace) to be pretty silly and seriously misplaced. Yes, it would have been far better without the retarded Jar-Jar and the infantile Anakin, but it is not really much more childish than the rest of them. And I thought that Qui-Gon was an excellent character that was killed off and squandered early.

I thought Phantom Menace was fine other than Jar-Jar; well, the kid who played Anakin too. When I first saw the film I was a teenager and didn't mind him. Even the second time I saw the film, when I was in college, I thought he was okay.
It was when I got the Blu-ray set and watched it the third time that I couldn't stand him at all. He was annoying to no end.
That child actor always got on my nerves. I thought he was whiny when I first saw him in Jingle All the Way, and found him annoying ever since.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: WolfTickets on Sun, 20 December 2015, 21:28:29
So who here has seen the new movie? Is it worth watching?

I really enjoyed it.  It stayed true to the first trilogy... Maybe a little too true...
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 20 December 2015, 21:41:43
Loved it. I saw the originals in the theater but only remember ep 6. This was cool because it was a world/character set I was familiar with but I was seeing the plot for the first time. It was an excitement that I haven't felt for a long time. A long time.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: njbair on Sun, 20 December 2015, 22:03:23
Wasn't there another Star Wars thread recently? I thought I posted yesterday. Anyway, I think Machete Order is a neat idea, but release order is fine for newbies. Episode 1 is not that bad.

Jar Jar is a little annoying but the whole idea of a single planet co-occupied by two sentient species was a really cool idea that I thought was explored really well. Darth Maul is often accused of being a hollow, pointless character, but you had to have someone there to wield the enemy lightsaber. And he wasn't even the real villain.

The one "fan edit" I really advocate is, if you own the official releases, go ahead and download the Despecialized Editions of episodes 1-3. They are likely the closest thing to an HD release of the original theatrical releases that we'll ever get to see. I happen to be lucky enough to own the discontinued DVDs which include 480p theatrical versions--the highest quality officially available--but most of the time I watch the Despecialized Editions on Plex instead.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 21 December 2015, 06:20:03

Wasn't there another Star Wars thread recently? I thought I posted yesterday. Anyway, I think Machete Order is a neat idea, but release order is fine for newbies. Episode 1 is not that bad.

Jar Jar is a little annoying but the whole idea of a single planet co-occupied by two sentient species was a really cool idea that I thought was explored really well. Darth Maul is often accused of being a hollow, pointless character, but you had to have someone there to wield the enemy lightsaber. And he wasn't even the real villain.

The one "fan edit" I really advocate is, if you own the official releases, go ahead and download the Despecialized Editions of episodes 1-3. They are likely the closest thing to an HD release of the original theatrical releases that we'll ever get to see. I happen to be lucky enough to own the discontinued DVDs which include 480p theatrical versions--the highest quality officially available--but most of the time I watch the Despecialized Editions on Plex instead.

I have the Definitive Collection on laserdisc, but my laserdisc player gave up the ghost years ago
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 06:48:38
One last thing, whatever you do, DO NOT WATCH THE STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL. When it came out it was terrible, and it still is terrible.

It's not even funny-bad...  :|
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: SploogeFactory on Mon, 21 December 2015, 07:11:26
So who here has seen the new movie? Is it worth watching?

I really enjoyed it.  It stayed true to the first trilogy... Maybe a little too true...

Lol, the throwbacks, so many throwbacks.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 21 December 2015, 07:15:07
A while back I wiki'd some parts of the star wars novels since I don't read for pleasure.  From what I remember the story has been somewhat altered?  I thought the movie was a great watch but if anyone wants to talk about differences I'd be down.

Spoiler
Like how they imply that Rey is part of the skywalker lineage and now the name of solo's son is ben(but Darth Caedus was always solo's son)?  Or maybe I read that scene wrong.  It's been a while since I read up on the lore.
Dear god spoiler

Not technically a spoiler but I'll tag it as such just in case:
In the expanded universe, which most is now considered non-canon, Leia and Han had twins, Jacen who was Darth Caedus and Jaina who was a Jedi.  Luke Skywalker had a son with Mara Jade who's name was Ben.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 07:50:32
In the expanded universe, which most is now considered non-canon [...]

I didn't realize until yesterday that the expanded universe was even considered canon...  :-[  In my mind I'd always written them off since it wasn't George Lucas that wrote them; and to be honest, calling it "Expanded Universe" kind of implies that it's something 'beyond' the original story arc.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 21 December 2015, 08:03:49
In the expanded universe, which most is now considered non-canon [...]

I didn't realize until yesterday that the expanded universe was even considered canon...  :-[  In my mind I'd always written them off since it wasn't George Lucas that wrote them; and to be honest, calling it "Expanded Universe" kind of implies that it's something 'beyond' the original story arc.

It's not. "Canon" is, always and forever, only that which is included in the films. The only time canon can change is through the addition of new films, or, by revisionist editing, through new releases of the original films.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 08:08:01
In the expanded universe, which most is now considered non-canon [...]

I didn't realize until yesterday that the expanded universe was even considered canon...  :-[  In my mind I'd always written them off since it wasn't George Lucas that wrote them; and to be honest, calling it "Expanded Universe" kind of implies that it's something 'beyond' the original story arc.

It's not. "Canon" is, always and forever, only that which is included in the films. The only time canon can change is through the addition of new films, or, by revisionist editing, through new releases of the original films.

In my googling, I read an "official" statement that Disney had de-canonized the books.  Was their initial canonization a sham?  If it were up to me, I'd agree with exactly what you wrote, but I don't think I get to pick the rules here so I'm not sure how it works.  :P
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 21 December 2015, 08:18:15
In the expanded universe, which most is now considered non-canon [...]

I didn't realize until yesterday that the expanded universe was even considered canon...  :-[  In my mind I'd always written them off since it wasn't George Lucas that wrote them; and to be honest, calling it "Expanded Universe" kind of implies that it's something 'beyond' the original story arc.

It's not. "Canon" is, always and forever, only that which is included in the films. The only time canon can change is through the addition of new films, or, by revisionist editing, through new releases of the original films.

In my googling, I read an "official" statement that Disney had de-canonized the books.  Was their initial canonization a sham?  If it were up to me, I'd agree with exactly what you wrote, but I don't think I get to pick the rules here so I'm not sure how it works.  :P

Disney, being Disney, seems to have tried to co-opt the definition of what is canon. But I think most sane people would still hold to my original definition.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

Quote
As of April 25, 2014, the only previously published materials that are considered canon are the six Star Wars films and the Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series and film, while the Expanded Universe is no longer considered canon[1] and was re-termed as the "Legends" brand. Most Star Wars material released after April 25, 2014—with some exceptions—is composed in collaboration with the Lucasfilm Story Group, making it part of the "new canon."
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 08:39:10
In the expanded universe, which most is now considered non-canon [...]

I didn't realize until yesterday that the expanded universe was even considered canon...  :-[  In my mind I'd always written them off since it wasn't George Lucas that wrote them; and to be honest, calling it "Expanded Universe" kind of implies that it's something 'beyond' the original story arc.

It's not. "Canon" is, always and forever, only that which is included in the films. The only time canon can change is through the addition of new films, or, by revisionist editing, through new releases of the original films.

In my googling, I read an "official" statement that Disney had de-canonized the books.  Was their initial canonization a sham?  If it were up to me, I'd agree with exactly what you wrote, but I don't think I get to pick the rules here so I'm not sure how it works.  :P

Disney, being Disney, seems to have tried to co-opt the definition of what is canon. But I think most sane people would still hold to my original definition.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

Quote
As of April 25, 2014, the only previously published materials that are considered canon are the six Star Wars films and the Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series and film, while the Expanded Universe is no longer considered canon[1] and was re-termed as the "Legends" brand. Most Star Wars material released after April 25, 2014—with some exceptions—is composed in collaboration with the Lucasfilm Story Group, making it part of the "new canon."

I should have thought to check the wiki, that explains things pretty nicely.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: piemancoder on Fri, 22 January 2016, 14:28:35
Kinda bumping an older thread, but episode 8 has been delayed  :'(
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: romevi on Fri, 22 January 2016, 14:31:01
Kinda bumping an older thread, but episode 8 has been delayed  :'(

Meh. I actually liked having Star Wars closer to the holidays. It was something else to look forward to what with all the festivities, and I could talk about it with family during the vacation.
Plus, I hope this extra time allows for some more polishing.
Title: Re: Star Wars thread
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 04 May 2016, 12:48:05
I celebrated the holiday by renting Force Awakens. I'm not the biggest Star Wars fan at all so I didn't expect much. Nor do I feel like I had the ability to over-analyze it.

**** was good. I laughed, I cried. 1-3 were total **** and I'd never watch them again. TFA is rewatchable about once a year.