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Title: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: falkentyne on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:56:38
Why aren't more people using MX dark greys (linear)?
Or MX greys (tactile?)
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: daerid on Sat, 19 December 2015, 11:00:29
Love for Blacks and hate for Reds? wtf... just a few short years and everybody flips a 180
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 19 December 2015, 12:16:14
To be fair, a few years ago reds would have still been relatively new. Even then, quite a few people loathed them. It's always been a very polarizing switch. Still like my Filco after 4 years though.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: zslane on Sat, 19 December 2015, 13:33:14
MX reds are the only switch I type on. I don't like MX tactile or clicky switches, and MX blacks offer too much resistance for my touch typing style.

I'd give NovaTouch switches a try, but CM doesn't yet make a NovaTouch I'd want to use.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 19 December 2015, 14:00:40
zslane, you may be interested in this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77589.0).

Unfortunately it's a full size board.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 December 2015, 20:03:52
Reds are too light for me for typing, but I am using them on my gaming PC at the moment.

Grays are too hard to come by, no-one seems to make a standard keyboard with grays, which probably explains the slowness of take-up.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 19 December 2015, 20:06:10
I'm curious how the Cherry Nature White switches will be. May be a decent middleground between Red and Black.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: Harms on Sat, 19 December 2015, 22:43:26
I'm curious how the Cherry Nature White switches will be. May be a decent middleground between Red and Black.

They are, their Actuation force is 55g :O
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: fuzzybaffy on Sat, 19 December 2015, 22:45:56
I have the Ducky 5 Shine with the Nature White switch on pre-order. I won't promise a full-blown review, but I can definitely write about my impressions. I've never owned an MX Red nor MX Black board before, though, so I can't really compare, unfortunately. I do have a Filco with MX Browns, so I can do a quick comparison with that.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 19 December 2015, 22:51:06
I hate both? Linear is not much fun in my book, I do far too much typing and far too little gaming.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: Wilkie on Sat, 19 December 2015, 22:52:36
Why aren't more people using MX dark greys (linear)?
Or MX greys (tactile?)

Doesn't WhiteFox have a Linear Grey option?  Almost tempted me to get it.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: falkentyne on Sun, 20 December 2015, 11:26:53
I'm curious how the Cherry Nature White switches will be. May be a decent middleground between Red and Black.

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Reds are too light for me for typing, but I am using them on my gaming PC at the moment.

Grays are too hard to come by, no-one seems to make a standard keyboard with grays, which probably explains the slowness of take-up.

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Doesn't WhiteFox have a Linear Grey option?  Almost tempted me to get it.

Here's a standard keyboard with dark greys (linear)
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=83

And here's tactile grey (aka super clears as the stem and the tactile bump is the exact same as on clears--including the almost impossible to remove keycaps).  Aren't tactile greys just clears with a heavier spring?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=981

Both come in an orange LED version also.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: falkentyne on Sun, 20 December 2015, 11:28:07
double, sorry :(:
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 December 2015, 15:18:44
Reds are too light for me for typing, but I am using them on my gaming PC at the moment.

Grays are too hard to come by, no-one seems to make a standard keyboard with grays, which probably explains the slowness of take-up.


I am interested in trying tactile grays with springs with lower modules, have you tried them as that?
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 20 December 2015, 15:20:50
All opinion guyz..

Try um'  you like it  or you don't like it..  No life story necessary, move on.. get another keyboard..

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/sillyp1.gif)


Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 20 December 2015, 20:07:16
Here's a standard keyboard with dark greys (linear)
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=83

And here's tactile grey (aka super clears as the stem and the tactile bump is the exact same as on clears--including the almost impossible to remove keycaps).  Aren't tactile greys just clears with a heavier spring?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=981

Both come in an orange LED version also.


And one is out of stock, making only one MX gray keyboard.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: falkentyne on Sun, 20 December 2015, 21:39:56
The only one out of stock is the orange LED linear (dark grey) one.
The white LED dark grey and the tactile greys are still there.
There's only two tactile greys left though.  Looks like some people from geekhack saw my post and are buying them.

Awesome.  More people with Hercules fingers upcoming :) Enjoy a keyboard made for real men !
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 20 December 2015, 22:10:59
In that case I retract my "no-one makes such a keyboard" statement, change it to something like "there are very, very few keyboards with MX grays".
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: daerid on Mon, 21 December 2015, 02:03:51
And here's tactile grey (aka super clears as the stem and the tactile bump is the exact same as on clears--including the almost impossible to remove keycaps). 

I have yet to encounter a Clear switch that was difficult to remove the keycap from. I am not fully convinced this is a legitimate thing.


Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: Sencha on Tue, 22 December 2015, 06:49:45
I'm curious how the Cherry Nature White switches will be. May be a decent middleground between Red and Black.

They are, their Actuation force is 55g :O

So far closer to black then. Only 5g difference. But still 10g heavier then reds/
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 22 December 2015, 08:08:36
Having tried a lot of MX switches, the only memorable ones I actually want to use are Reds for their linear softness and ErgoClears. Browns are a cheap substitute in between that don't live up to either, but still usable. The MX click is extremely annoying and I can't use heavy switches as a personal preference.
Title: Re: So with all this love for MX Blacks and hate for Reds in the other thread....
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 10:28:45
Ergo clears rock, the feeling along with the tactility rock.