Personally I find a small space bar weird. Maybe as I grew up with at least 10x space bars.
Also ISO-style Enter irks me - I decided a long time ago that I prefer ANSI-style Enter and 1.5 \| key above it.
Alternatively you can also get this: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1509
As for whether it's worth the money. If you don't have any Topre then $255 is a good price.
But if you already own a Topre, not sure if it's worth it to get an entire new keyboard. I've been eyeing it for a while but since I already own a Realforce so I find it hard to pull the trigger.
Silenced Topre feels very "sandy", definitely an interesting feeling which you can't achieve with silencing mods (or can, but I never got anything close to that). However if there's no specific reason for you to use JIS layout, I would suggest buying one in ANSI simply because it's way easier to sell ANSI keyboard on GH or mechmarket
There really is no specific reason for me to use a JIS layout other than I can't find a full-sized (or TKL) Topre board in uniform 45g with an ANSI layout. If you're aware of any, by all means let me know. I considered the HHKB 2 and Leopold FC660C, but as cute as they are I just can't get past the layout.
If you want uniform 45g, I found this when looking at a foray into Topre. It's in stock and is uniform 45g:
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rf104&pid=yk2100
If you want uniform 45g, I found this when looking at a foray into Topre. It's in stock and is uniform 45g:
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rf104&pid=yk2100
Yeah, I saw these on EK's site and would've jumped on it assuming it had a regular color scheme with normal profile keys. Some reviews mentioned that the key caps may be somewhat uncomfortable to type on if you're not a touch typist.
I'm really sort of drawn to the white/grey color scheme of the RealForce 104U / 87U, so what I may end up doing is buying a 55g uniform 104U (or 87U) and swapping the domes with a 45g Type Heaven. I know... expensive, but that's really the only way I see being able to obtain the color scheme I like in the uniform weighting I prefer.And when you do, you may have created what someone else wants--a 55g Type Heaven. :thumb:
I'm really sort of drawn to the white/grey color scheme of the RealForce 104U / 87U, so what I may end up doing is buying a 55g uniform 104U (or 87U) and swapping the domes with a 45g Type Heaven. I know... expensive, but that's really the only way I see being able to obtain the color scheme I like in the uniform weighting I prefer.And when you do, you may have created what someone else wants--a 55g Type Heaven. :thumb:
So then you have a limited edition 'dual weighted' model. ;)I'm really sort of drawn to the white/grey color scheme of the RealForce 104U / 87U, so what I may end up doing is buying a 55g uniform 104U (or 87U) and swapping the domes with a 45g Type Heaven. I know... expensive, but that's really the only way I see being able to obtain the color scheme I like in the uniform weighting I prefer.And when you do, you may have created what someone else wants--a 55g Type Heaven. :thumb:
That's true. Well, unless I end up with an 87U where there'd be enough domes for all but the numpad.
So then you have a limited edition 'dual weighted' model. ;)I'm really sort of drawn to the white/grey color scheme of the RealForce 104U / 87U, so what I may end up doing is buying a 55g uniform 104U (or 87U) and swapping the domes with a 45g Type Heaven. I know... expensive, but that's really the only way I see being able to obtain the color scheme I like in the uniform weighting I prefer.And when you do, you may have created what someone else wants--a 55g Type Heaven. :thumb:
That's true. Well, unless I end up with an 87U where there'd be enough domes for all but the numpad.
So, I just ordered a Realforce 87U (55g) and a Type Heaven. We'll see how it goes.Did you order the black or white RF87U?
I'm really sort of drawn to the white/grey color scheme of the RealForce 104U / 87U, so what I may end up doing is buying a 55g uniform 104U (or 87U) and swapping the domes with a 45g Type Heaven. I know... expensive, but that's really the only way I see being able to obtain the color scheme I like in the uniform weighting I prefer.
So, I just ordered a Realforce 87U (55g) and a Type Heaven. We'll see how it goes.Did you order the black or white RF87U?
It will be interesting to see your impressions of the two Topre-switch keyboards. I have not tried the Type Heaven myself, but based on reports of others, I would say that the RF87U is the better board.
So, I just ordered a Realforce 87U (55g) and a Type Heaven. We'll see how it goes.Did you order the black or white RF87U?
It will be interesting to see your impressions of the two Topre-switch keyboards. I have not tried the Type Heaven myself, but based on reports of others, I would say that the RF87U is the better board.
I am typing this on my RF87UB55. I have installed my Silencing Rings and lubed the stabilizers and switch rails.
I've also swapped out the spacebar for a PBT one and put rubber shock absorbers under the space bar. Apart from the form factor (I prefer 60%), the modded RF87UB55 is now my favorite because of its quiet smoothness. To use a tired car analogy, the RF is like driving a luxury sedan. When I want to have the sports car experience, I use my HHKB.
I'm really sort of drawn to the white/grey color scheme of the RealForce 104U / 87U, so what I may end up doing is buying a 55g uniform 104U (or 87U) and swapping the domes with a 45g Type Heaven. I know... expensive, but that's really the only way I see being able to obtain the color scheme I like in the uniform weighting I prefer.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68076.msg1611231#msg1611231
I did something similar before. Too bad I didn't have silence ring otherwise I'd put that in also. :P
I'm really sort of drawn to the white/grey color scheme of the RealForce 104U / 87U, so what I may end up doing is buying a 55g uniform 104U (or 87U) and swapping the domes with a 45g Type Heaven. I know... expensive, but that's really the only way I see being able to obtain the color scheme I like in the uniform weighting I prefer.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68076.msg1611231#msg1611231
I did something similar before. Too bad I didn't have silence ring otherwise I'd put that in also. :P
Awesome link. I can definitely use that. By the way, do you know where to buy silencing rings? I checked EK but didn't see any for Topre.
EDIT: I found some on eBay
I'm considering purchasing the Realforce 108UH-S; a silenced 108-key uniform 45 gram Japanese Topre board. My only concern is the small space bar and the ISO enter key. Any opinions either way before I pull the trigger? Are the silent versions overrated / worth the money? I've never used (much less owned) a keyboard with such a small space bar, either. I'm pretty much sold on 45g though and have no interest in variable weighted, but I'm open to a TKL. However, they've proven difficult to find in uniform 45g.Show Image(http://blog-imgs-49.fc2.com/e/y/n/eyne/PC02.jpg)
I'm considering purchasing the Realforce 108UH-S; a silenced 108-key uniform 45 gram Japanese Topre board. My only concern is the small space bar and the ISO enter key. Any opinions either way before I pull the trigger? Are the silent versions overrated / worth the money? I've never used (much less owned) a keyboard with such a small space bar, either. I'm pretty much sold on 45g though and have no interest in variable weighted, but I'm open to a TKL. However, they've proven difficult to find in uniform 45g.Show Image(http://blog-imgs-49.fc2.com/e/y/n/eyne/PC02.jpg)
If I was to redo or have more funds, I would have gotten the jp hhkb with the smaller spacebar. The two smaller keys next to the spacebar can be used as modifier keys; as oppose to using the pinkies. If it can be programmed, I may use them for layer switching also.