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Title: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 January 2016, 18:21:28
Finally released today..

Very xcited..

Yes, it's gonna be in Chinese,,  so I'll post if I hear any funny stuffs.. hahahaha


Also,  I might go to the buffet afterwards.. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_113_.gif)


UPDATE:

Just came home..

Story:  2/10,   they pretty much just decided, **** it, they'll watch anything.. he went here, he's here,  han solo, leia,  lightsaber, laser cannon. done..


Visuals: 9/10,  solid use of 3D,  great CGI throughout.. no complaints.


Sound: 7/10,  the tracks are very well mastered, but overall, lacked in variety, complete lack of novelty.  m0ar brass?


Overall..  I'm not sold on the Star wars Universe..  but I am impressed by the technical achievements..
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 08 January 2016, 18:28:07
I forgot it hasn't been released already in china. I thought it was really good to be honest.


Oscar isaac is ****ing awesome, even though he gets so little screen time.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 08 January 2016, 18:31:08
This post has absolutely nothing to do with the movie, but you thought it was a spoiler didn't you?
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 08 January 2016, 18:31:20
I wonder if China will get bonus scenes like they do with Marvel movies.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 January 2016, 18:52:05
I wonder if China will get bonus scenes like they do with Marvel movies.

I don't see why not,,   i mean... they're not really a bonus,  they like the shipping at zappos ,  you paid for the express,  they're just calling it an upgrade.. hahahahhaha
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 08 January 2016, 19:25:01
This post has absolutely nothing to do with the movie, but you thought it was a spoiler didn't you?

i fell for it
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 09 January 2016, 05:00:41
UPDATE:

Just came home..

Story:  2/10,   they pretty much just decided, **** it, they'll watch anything.. he went here, he's here,  han solo, leia,  lightsaber, laser cannon. done..


Visuals: 9/10,  solid use of 3D,  great CGI throughout.. no complaints.


Sound: 7/10,  the tracks are very well mastered, but overall, lacked in variety, complete lack of novelty.  m0ar brass?


Overall..  I'm still not sold on the Star wars Universe..  but I am impressed by the technical achievements..
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 09 January 2016, 05:03:04
Y U NO LIKE STAR WARS?!!!!
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 09 January 2016, 05:06:12
Y U NO LIKE STAR WARS?!!!!

(http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/star-trek-spock1.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 09 January 2016, 06:16:46
The more I think about it..  The more ridiculous I find the ordeal..

I really think StarWars fans have a case of i-sheep..   

Seriously the corporate Starwars keep ****ing you guys over,  but to defend your own egos,  you remain loyal in this abusive relationship...

I'm out just 10 bux, tomorrow I'll forget this movie ever happened..   but you guys... you guys have to learn to live with these stains in your beloved franchise..


Sigh...,, The Trek Universe is so much better...  coherent.. and well written...
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 09 January 2016, 06:48:09
Everytime I agree with tp I wonder if it's a good or bad thing.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: fanpeople on Sat, 09 January 2016, 07:11:23
Everytime I agree with tp I wonder if it's a good or bad thing.

It's just a thing aright, just leave it at that.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 09 January 2016, 07:16:40
What tp said is true tho
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 09 January 2016, 10:10:38
Seriously the corporate Starwars keep ****ing you guys over,  but to defend your own egos,  you remain loyal in this abusive relationship...

I'm out just 10 bux, tomorrow I'll forget this movie ever happened..   but you guys... you guys have to learn to live with these stains in your beloved franchise..
Oh, there are lots of long-term hardcore fans that are in uproar ...

I am a huge Star Wars fan. I had a ticket when my costuming group was invited to Disney to pose at a gala premiere for celebs one day before official opening day. After that, I was so angry with the film that I returned my original ticket for a refund. I have not seen it again, but posted angry posts all over the Internet, analysed it to bits, and started to write plans on how to make a fan-edit of the movie once it comes out on BluRay.
I have written more in the other Star Wars thread.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 09 January 2016, 10:58:20
I'm not a mega fan, and I'm usually pretty critical, but I still found the film to be a fun time. I wouldn't nominate it for any awards, but I enjoyed it.


I'm not getting ****ed by disney, thankfully enough.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: whmeltonjr on Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:08:07
I thought you were a cool guy, tp. I'm going to have to rethink that now...
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:14:38
I agree with your assessment on this film.   Pretty underwhelming in terms of story and originality, but heck, it was entertaining.  But not entertaining enough to watch more than once at the theatre.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:14:58
Also, we have a thread for this already: 

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77896.100
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: absyrd on Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:22:25
Also, we have a thread for this already: 

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77896.100

tp does not participate in other people's threads.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: DAVYtm on Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:25:06
UPDATE:

Just came home..

Story:  2/10,   they pretty much just decided, **** it, they'll watch anything.. he went here, he's here,  han solo, leia,  lightsaber, laser cannon. done..


Visuals: 9/10,  solid use of 3D,  great CGI throughout.. no complaints.


Sound: 7/10,  the tracks are very well mastered, but overall, lacked in variety, complete lack of novelty.  m0ar brass?


Overall..  I'm still not sold on the Star wars Universe..  but I am impressed by the technical achievements..

Glad you agree. Visuals and sound were great, story was utter ****. Was sorely disappointed.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 09 January 2016, 12:27:37
Haters gonna hate. Geekhack has by far is the most negative views on the film that I have seen.  >:D


I guess I'm not a big enough star wars fan to see why this one was ****ty.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: absyrd on Sat, 09 January 2016, 12:36:15
Geekhack has by far is the most negative views on the film that I have seen.  >:D

Probably because all the controls on all the spaze chips are rubber domes.

Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 09 January 2016, 17:49:35
Geekhack has by far is the most negative views on the film that I have seen.  >:D

Probably because all the controls on all the spaze chips are rubber domes.



I think Geekhack has more  "Rational"  fandom.. ..  vs fanboi vs fanaticism


This is with exception to Topre-fanaticists.  Whatever-something traumatic has removed a large piece of their hearts,  and they've sought to fill it with rubber cups..  To take rubber cups away from them is to tell them they're not whole, and incomplete..

-- after realizing that, I've come to accept topre-fandom as a disease for which there is no cure.. so hell, filled with rubber cups is better than a deep empty sadness..

That said,  uTron is the only acceptable topre keyboard under the rules of Tp4..(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_059_.gif)




Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 09 January 2016, 18:48:47
TR-8R is the best stormtrooper kinda sad he got killed .-. hope the armour did the job and he's not actually dead but knocked out.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 09 January 2016, 19:13:08
Y U NO LIKE STAR WARS?!!!!

Show Image
(http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/star-trek-spock1.jpg)


Hi Tp :D

Ok Star Wars lecture time

What I think went wrong with these recent star wars saga is due to it become a profitable franchise and Disney bought it
Disney didn't do a bad job but for someone like me who's been following the Star Wars Expanded Universe, it just loses the story touch

Don't forget that the original Star Wars is a low budget movie with sort of "Soap Opera" style as their selling point
But they got their money from the market, and market want to see what they want to see
and unfortunately what the market see is only the Jedi-ism, while that's not true

This why Disney created a whole different universe with
And losing George Lucas along the way

While Disney trying to redeem them self by creating movie based on other stories in their new Star Wars Universe (like Rogue One)
and I honestly don't agree with people saying that it's a side story
Star Wars is Star Wars, it's a whole universe thats interesting not only the Jedi-ism

but again that's what the big market want :(

I have to go through a lot of explanation to my family and friends when they catch up with the old movies to be able to understand Ep VII

Something like Episode III, it's not about luke being able to defeat Vader or Palpatine
It's about The One (Vader) who returned from the dark side by love to his children, thus they call the movie Return of the Jedi

The movie market is just so different right now, that's why director like Michael Bay still got funded for his non-story-based-explosive-movie -_-
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: romevi on Sat, 09 January 2016, 19:22:51
Y U NO LIKE STAR WARS?!!!!

Show Image
(http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/star-trek-spock1.jpg)


Hi Tp :D

Ok Star Wars lecture time

What I think went wrong with these recent star wars saga is due to it become a profitable franchise and Disney bought it
Disney didn't do a bad job but for someone like me who's been following the Star Wars Expanded Universe, it just loses the story touch

Don't forget that the original Star Wars is a low budget movie with sort of "Soap Opera" style as their selling point
But they got their money from the market, and market want to see what they want to see
and unfortunately what the market see is only the Jedi-ism, while that's not true

This why Disney created a whole different universe with
And losing George Lucas along the way

While Disney trying to redeem them self by creating movie based on other stories in their new Star Wars Universe (like Rogue One)
and I honestly don't agree with people saying that it's a side story
Star Wars is Star Wars, it's a whole universe thats interesting not only the Jedi-ism

but again that's what the big market want :(

I have to go through a lot of explanation to my family and friends when they catch up with the old movies to be able to understand Ep VII

Something like Episode III, it's not about luke being able to defeat Vader or Palpatine
It's about The One (Vader) who returned from the dark side by love to his children, thus they call the movie Return of the Jedi

The movie market is just so different right now, that's why director like Michael Bay still got funded for his non-story-based-explosive-movie -_-

I'm pretty sure SW wasn't low budget.
Also, RotJ was called Revenge of the Jedi up until the last minute, when Lucas decided Revenge isn't something a Jedi would do.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: fanpeople on Sat, 09 January 2016, 19:34:11
I'm pretty sure SW wasn't low budget.
Also, RotJ was called Revenge of the Jedi up until the last minute, when Lucas decided Revenge isn't something a Jedi would do.

Isn't there posters with this printed on them and they are now worth a fair bit as collectors items?
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 09 January 2016, 19:40:51
Star wars: A new hope cost $11,000,000 in 1977, adjusting for inflation that comes out to $43,080,792.08

And the Empire strikes back cost 18,000,000-33,000,000 at the time, adjusting for inflation $51,845,242.72-$95,049,611.63


And Return of the jedi costing even more with 32,000,000-42,000,000 in 1983. I can't be bothered to enter the numbers into the calculator, but I'm sure you get the idea.
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 09 January 2016, 20:15:18
Star wars: A new hope cost $11,000,000 in 1977, adjusting for inflation that comes out to $43,080,792.08

And the Empire strikes back cost 18,000,000-33,000,000 at the time, adjusting for inflation $51,845,242.72-$95,049,611.63


And Return of the jedi costing even more with 32,000,000-42,000,000 in 1983. I can't be bothered to enter the numbers into the calculator, but I'm sure you get the idea.

When you put it into numbers perspective yes :)

this review might get you started of the whole originated idea in making star wars Ep. I and why we call it low budget
http://www.imdb.com/reviews/68/6874.html


Edit: Some other ideas of why it's low budget is that most of the actors were unknown to cut the budget. And I think one of the movie if I'm not mistaken Cleopatra has already spent +- $300M in todays economy in 1963 , as a comparison while star wars is a sci-fi movie and you know how costly it is to produce sci-fi
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 09 January 2016, 20:26:15
Oh an another fun fact,
They've to cut budget on Stormtrooper costume (which they used to call them Vader's Army)
So the guy who won the design tender Nick Pemberton approach his neighbor who's good in ABS plastic Andrew Ainswoth to make the helmet

and now he's making big bucks creating the helmet

http://www.originalstormtrooper.com/

He kinda forgot about the helmet until the success of the film and he needs money for family reason, that's when he searched his junk pile at the back of the house for the helmet mould
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 09 January 2016, 20:47:55
Oh an another fun fact,
They've to cut budget on Stormtrooper costume (which they used to call them Vader's Army)
So the guy who won the design tender Nick Pemberton approach his neighbor who's good in ABS plastic Andrew Ainswoth to make the helmet

and now he's making big bucks creating the helmet

http://www.originalstormtrooper.com/

He kinda forgot about the helmet until the success of the film and he needs money for family reason, that's when he searched his junk pile at the back of the house for the helmet mould

Wow, only 800Gbp for the full suit..  but it doesn't come with storm trooper shoes..
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: SamirD on Sat, 09 January 2016, 23:02:02
Oh, there are lots of long-term hardcore fans that are in uproar ...

I am a huge Star Wars fan. I had a ticket when my costuming group was invited to Disney to pose at a gala premiere for celebs one day before official opening day. After that, I was so angry with the film that I returned my original ticket for a refund. I have not seen it again, but posted angry posts all over the Internet, analysed it to bits, and started to write plans on how to make a fan-edit of the movie once it comes out on BluRay.
I have written more in the other Star Wars thread.
My brother is a HUGE fan as well.  This was his wedding cake:(http://newpics.huntsvillecarscene.com/photos/i-8ht2XPg/0/M/i-8ht2XPg-M.jpg)(http://newpics.huntsvillecarscene.com/photos/i-5KV7CcP/0/M/i-5KV7CcP-M.jpg)

But he actually liked the movie.  But he also likes iThings...so hmm...
Title: Re: Finally going to see the Star Wars today..
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 10 January 2016, 16:49:42
Y U NO LIKE STAR WARS?!!!!

Show Image
(http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/star-trek-spock1.jpg)


Hi Tp :D

Ok Star Wars lecture time

What I think went wrong with these recent star wars saga is due to it become a profitable franchise and Disney bought it
Disney didn't do a bad job but for someone like me who's been following the Star Wars Expanded Universe, it just loses the story touch

Don't forget that the original Star Wars is a low budget movie with sort of "Soap Opera" style as their selling point
But they got their money from the market, and market want to see what they want to see
and unfortunately what the market see is only the Jedi-ism, while that's not true

This why Disney created a whole different universe with
And losing George Lucas along the way

While Disney trying to redeem them self by creating movie based on other stories in their new Star Wars Universe (like Rogue One)
and I honestly don't agree with people saying that it's a side story
Star Wars is Star Wars, it's a whole universe thats interesting not only the Jedi-ism

but again that's what the big market want :(

I have to go through a lot of explanation to my family and friends when they catch up with the old movies to be able to understand Ep VII

Something like Episode III, it's not about luke being able to defeat Vader or Palpatine
It's about The One (Vader) who returned from the dark side by love to his children, thus they call the movie Return of the Jedi

The movie market is just so different right now, that's why director like Michael Bay still got funded for his non-story-based-explosive-movie -_-

Oh yea, Star Wars has become a profit center rather than actually appeasing those of us concerned about the quality of the story.  Because let's be honest, most moviegoers just want to be entertained, they don't care that much about the story.