You don't need all those keys on the bottom row. How many do you actually use in a normal layout? Less than half probably.I just use the control and the spacebar.
It's still just wasted space. A 60% layout with a full bottom row gives you plenty of room for dedicated arrow keys, macros, layer-switching, and anything else you could want
It's still just wasted space. A 60% layout with a full bottom row gives you plenty of room for dedicated arrow keys, macros, layer-switching, and anything else you could want
It's still just wasted space. A 60% layout with a full bottom row gives you plenty of room for dedicated arrow keys, macros, layer-switching, and anything else you could want
Get a Pok3r. Has all the keys you need.
It'd be interesting to see how many people use the left side control and alt keys.
How come it's acceptable to move your right hand over to hold the Fn key on a HHKB to use the arrow keys but not move your hand down to left Ctrl and use ZXCVS (common keys used with Ctrl)?
you think it's wrong to want a keyboard because it feels nice..? ;D
More options doesn't necessarily make things better.
Even before I got a HHKB I remapped the Caps Lock key to control, so for me it's nice to have it there.
I quite like the layout of the HHKB and I totally love the feel of the Topre switches.
you think it's wrong to want a keyboard because it feels nice..? ;D
Not at all. :)More options doesn't necessarily make things better.
Even before I got a HHKB I remapped the Caps Lock key to control, so for me it's nice to have it there.
I quite like the layout of the HHKB and I totally love the feel of the Topre switches.
I agree, but there are certain cases where less options make more sense. For example, there's a blank space between F4 and F5 on "normal" keyboards and it helps to locate the keys easier, so in this case having "less options" by putting in blank spaces makes sense because it provides a benefit. I wouldn't want to stick in extra keys in that space like some variations of the Phantom do. However, since the HHKB has the same form factor as a 60% keyboard and the empty spaces aren't helping to provide physical separation, I find that the "less options" argument is less viable.
I have an IBM displaywriter keyboard which is missing the corners just like the HHKB and just feel that it's terribly wasted space/potential. Everything is subjective though.Show Image(http://zonky.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=55214&g2_serialNumber=2)
it's impossible to make the argument that the hhkb layout is superior to a normal 60% layout when a normal 60% layout provides the exact same functions that the hhkb allows for, sans the fn and split backspace keys, but both of those are easily integrated in any custom build (albeit not in topre). the hhkb is really the only option for a topre 60% board which is why its layout is so blindly and viciously defended.
it's impossible to make the argument that the hhkb layout is superior to a normal 60% layout when a normal 60% layout provides the exact same functions that the hhkb allows for, sans the fn and split backspace keys, but both of those are easily integrated in any custom build (albeit not in topre). the hhkb is really the only option for a topre 60% board which is why its layout is so blindly and viciously defended.
Then explain all those customs with HHKB layout
it's impossible to make the argument that the hhkb layout is superior to a normal 60% layout when a normal 60% layout provides the exact same functions that the hhkb allows for, sans the fn and split backspace keys, but both of those are easily integrated in any custom build (albeit not in topre). the hhkb is really the only option for a topre 60% board which is why its layout is so blindly and viciously defended.
Then explain all those customs with HHKB layout
familiar interface. of course youre not gonna change from a layout that works for you if you dont have to.
it's impossible to make the argument that the hhkb layout is superior to a normal 60% layout when a normal 60% layout provides the exact same functions that the hhkb allows for, sans the fn and split backspace keys, but both of those are easily integrated in any custom build (albeit not in topre). the hhkb is really the only option for a topre 60% board which is why its layout is so blindly and viciously defended.
Then explain all those customs with HHKB layout
familiar interface. of course youre not gonna change from a layout that works for you if you dont have to.
So, what is lacking in an actual HHKB that motivates people to make a custom board with the HHKB layout?
so if somebody is used to the hhkb layout or likes how it looks, theyre going to make their custom keyboard with the hhkb layout.
so if somebody is used to the hhkb layout or likes how it looks, theyre going to make their custom keyboard with the hhkb layout.
I guess what I'm asking is, why wouldn't someone who is used to the HHKB layout simply buy an HHKB? Why are they bothering to make a custom board at all when there exists a keyboard with the layout they like already? What's wrong with an HHKB?
so if somebody is used to the hhkb layout or likes how it looks, theyre going to make their custom keyboard with the hhkb layout.
I guess what I'm asking is, why wouldn't someone who is used to the HHKB layout simply buy an HHKB? Why are they bothering to make a custom board at all when there exists a keyboard with the layout they like already? What's wrong with an HHKB?
Because people like different switches, metal cases, etc. Or they want the HHKB's physical layout but want to reprogram it.
so if somebody is used to the hhkb layout or likes how it looks, theyre going to make their custom keyboard with the hhkb layout.
I guess what I'm asking is, why wouldn't someone who is used to the HHKB layout simply buy an HHKB? Why are they bothering to make a custom board at all when there exists a keyboard with the layout they like already? What's wrong with an HHKB?
Because people like different switches, metal cases, etc. Or they want the HHKB's physical layout but want to reprogram it.
I thought the HHKB was highly programmable. Am I misunderstanding what it is capable of?
I also got the impression that the combination of HHKB layout and Topre switches was God's gift to typists. What could possibly trump it?
My original layout of HHKB had no Fn keys, no digit keys, no arrow keys. But PFU concluded that commercial keyboards needed these function keys.
When someone takes on a project to build a board with their own custom layout, it is usually the project they want, not the board. :pFortunately not everyone has to design their own custom layout and build their own keyboard from scratch, in order to get something better than ANSI. It’s entirely possible to use someone else’s existing better design, with options ranging from pre-built keyboards, to kits requiring some assembly, to design sketches requiring full DIY. For instance ...
I am so used to the ANSI layout that it would be a pointless waste of time, at my age, to unlearn it and learn something else. In 35 years of typing on that layout (or its vintage equivalents back in the day), I've not acquired any RSI or joint pain. I am a normal, healthy human being who knows how to touch type and has no issues with shifting his left hand down a bit to chord LCTRL with his left pinky. Why in the world would I go looking for something else? Not only am I unlikely to gain more than a few wpm in typing speed, I don't need more wpm of typing speed.If more comfortable and efficient keyboarding isn’t a priority for you, that’s entirely fine. If you only ever type for a couple hours a day, you can take frequent breaks, and you don’t have any desire to spend brain cycles thinking about human–computer interfaces or analyzing your workflow, great. You can spend your effort and attention on something else. (In that case, I’m not quite sure why you’re on geekhack though.)
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