If you can get me a KLE link,
Switchnollie:Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
Here is the prototype of the Winkeyless case. Compatible with the same bottom case, so that should help MOQ's.
Two follow up questions about plates:
1. 6u or 7u for the HHKB style layout? There are some 6u spacebars out there, but not a lot. It looks like a couple other buys are doing it for 7u.
2. Is there an interest for plates at the same time? I can get some water jet, but PCB's are another matter. My experience is in mostly mechanic/machining work, and LeandreN has got a great system for the plates/PCB's anyway.
I would definitely not make it 6u for the HHKB. While it would be good to cater to the rest of the HHKB layout, making the 6u would kind of negate the whole point of building an MX board in HHKB fashion, because then none of those keycap sets would fit on it either. Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
7u could look a little out of place. I would accomodate for what the popular PCBs out there can handle, SPRiT, Sentrant, etc.
As far as plates, there are a whole lot of options out there. I would concentrate on the case first, and just add them if they make sense to add price wise for you and buyers.
As I understand it, this is a case made to fit most 60% keyboards out there, with blockers just allowing the keyboard to look more complete than many builds look now with either PCB showing through the plate, or a simple plate covering the PCB. Right?
Finally, if that is the case, I feel like it would be an obvious addition to simply make a standard 60% case option with no blockers just so people can get a nice case for their existing 60%'s.
Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
I would definitely not make it 6u for the HHKB. While it would be good to cater to the rest of the HHKB layout, making the 6u would kind of negate the whole point of building an MX board in HHKB fashion, because then none of those keycap sets would fit on it either. Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
7u could look a little out of place. I would accomodate for what the popular PCBs out there can handle, SPRiT, Sentrant, etc.
As far as plates, there are a whole lot of options out there. I would concentrate on the case first, and just add them if they make sense to add price wise for you and buyers.
As I understand it, this is a case made to fit most 60% keyboards out there, with blockers just allowing the keyboard to look more complete than many builds look now with either PCB showing through the plate, or a simple plate covering the PCB. Right?
Finally, if that is the case, I feel like it would be an obvious addition to simply make a standard 60% case option with no blockers just so people can get a nice case for their existing 60%'s.
I can see your point, 6.25u is easier. I don't use a 60% without the bottom row all that much, and haven't been able to experience the pain of searching for 6u spacebars.
Yes, it is a case with blockers over areas without keys. The original goal of the project was to fulfill that niche that has those gaps, I'm not really sure if a version without the blockers justifies the complexity of the case. At this point, it would be rather expensive, and does not seem to do something that existing 60% cases don't already. There are several other aluminum cases out there, and most (if not all) are one piece, not this roundabout two part construction. That said, most metal cases probably don't support case lighting, and powder coating is the likely finish for these. I haven't seen that many powder coated cases. Is that a concern for people?
I would definitely not make it 6u for the HHKB. While it would be good to cater to the rest of the HHKB layout, making the 6u would kind of negate the whole point of building an MX board in HHKB fashion, because then none of those keycap sets would fit on it either. Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
7u could look a little out of place. I would accomodate for what the popular PCBs out there can handle, SPRiT, Sentrant, etc.
As far as plates, there are a whole lot of options out there. I would concentrate on the case first, and just add them if they make sense to add price wise for you and buyers.
As I understand it, this is a case made to fit most 60% keyboards out there, with blockers just allowing the keyboard to look more complete than many builds look now with either PCB showing through the plate, or a simple plate covering the PCB. Right?
Finally, if that is the case, I feel like it would be an obvious addition to simply make a standard 60% case option with no blockers just so people can get a nice case for their existing 60%'s.
I can see your point, 6.25u is easier. I don't use a 60% without the bottom row all that much, and haven't been able to experience the pain of searching for 6u spacebars.
Yes, it is a case with blockers over areas without keys. The original goal of the project was to fulfill that niche that has those gaps, I'm not really sure if a version without the blockers justifies the complexity of the case. At this point, it would be rather expensive, and does not seem to do something that existing 60% cases don't already. There are several other aluminum cases out there, and most (if not all) are one piece, not this roundabout two part construction. That said, most metal cases probably don't support case lighting, and powder coating is the likely finish for these. I haven't seen that many powder coated cases. Is that a concern for people?
Ok, good to know.
And yeah, if making a standard case isnt viable, then by all means don't go that route. it isn't like there aren't a ton of choices already for 60% cases, it was just a suggestion if the price and work load were right.
But I do think having that 6.25 space, the 2.5u spacing on either side of it (users can configure 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25 OR 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1, depending on their own preferences), these are the most common and will allow people to use the sets they want. Obviously the Winkeyless should be just as you already seem to have it!
Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
What PCB allows for that?
I would definitely not make it 6u for the HHKB. While it would be good to cater to the rest of the HHKB layout, making the 6u would kind of negate the whole point of building an MX board in HHKB fashion, because then none of those keycap sets would fit on it either. Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
7u could look a little out of place. I would accomodate for what the popular PCBs out there can handle, SPRiT, Sentrant, etc.
As far as plates, there are a whole lot of options out there. I would concentrate on the case first, and just add them if they make sense to add price wise for you and buyers.
As I understand it, this is a case made to fit most 60% keyboards out there, with blockers just allowing the keyboard to look more complete than many builds look now with either PCB showing through the plate, or a simple plate covering the PCB. Right?
Finally, if that is the case, I feel like it would be an obvious addition to simply make a standard 60% case option with no blockers just so people can get a nice case for their existing 60%'s.
I can see your point, 6.25u is easier. I don't use a 60% without the bottom row all that much, and haven't been able to experience the pain of searching for 6u spacebars.
Yes, it is a case with blockers over areas without keys. The original goal of the project was to fulfill that niche that has those gaps, I'm not really sure if a version without the blockers justifies the complexity of the case. At this point, it would be rather expensive, and does not seem to do something that existing 60% cases don't already. There are several other aluminum cases out there, and most (if not all) are one piece, not this roundabout two part construction. That said, most metal cases probably don't support case lighting, and powder coating is the likely finish for these. I haven't seen that many powder coated cases. Is that a concern for people?
Ok, good to know.
And yeah, if making a standard case isnt viable, then by all means don't go that route. it isn't like there aren't a ton of choices already for 60% cases, it was just a suggestion if the price and work load were right.
But I do think having that 6.25 space, the 2.5u spacing on either side of it (users can configure 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25 OR 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1, depending on their own preferences), these are the most common and will allow people to use the sets they want. Obviously the Winkeyless should be just as you already seem to have it!
I can do the case, the geometry project works out pretty quickly. If it works out right, the tooling/machine pathing will be the same for the bottom half of the cases, so the other part in multiple variations should be doable.
I was messing with the KLE link, and 2.5u spacing doesn't quite fit on either side. After the 6.25u spacebar and ~4 x 1.25u mods, there is only 3.75u left over. I looked at the Spirit PCB on mk.com, but I can't find an exact keymap of what is supported. Is the spacebar just in the same location as it is normally? That would give it a shift over slightly.Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
What PCB allows for that?
I think the SPirit FaceW does, but I'm not 100% sure. LeandreN also has a GB/IC thread for a similar layout, just without this case style.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77342 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77342)
I would definitely not make it 6u for the HHKB. While it would be good to cater to the rest of the HHKB layout, making the 6u would kind of negate the whole point of building an MX board in HHKB fashion, because then none of those keycap sets would fit on it either. Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
7u could look a little out of place. I would accomodate for what the popular PCBs out there can handle, SPRiT, Sentrant, etc.
As far as plates, there are a whole lot of options out there. I would concentrate on the case first, and just add them if they make sense to add price wise for you and buyers.
As I understand it, this is a case made to fit most 60% keyboards out there, with blockers just allowing the keyboard to look more complete than many builds look now with either PCB showing through the plate, or a simple plate covering the PCB. Right?
Finally, if that is the case, I feel like it would be an obvious addition to simply make a standard 60% case option with no blockers just so people can get a nice case for their existing 60%'s.
I can see your point, 6.25u is easier. I don't use a 60% without the bottom row all that much, and haven't been able to experience the pain of searching for 6u spacebars.
Yes, it is a case with blockers over areas without keys. The original goal of the project was to fulfill that niche that has those gaps, I'm not really sure if a version without the blockers justifies the complexity of the case. At this point, it would be rather expensive, and does not seem to do something that existing 60% cases don't already. There are several other aluminum cases out there, and most (if not all) are one piece, not this roundabout two part construction. That said, most metal cases probably don't support case lighting, and powder coating is the likely finish for these. I haven't seen that many powder coated cases. Is that a concern for people?
Ok, good to know.
And yeah, if making a standard case isnt viable, then by all means don't go that route. it isn't like there aren't a ton of choices already for 60% cases, it was just a suggestion if the price and work load were right.
But I do think having that 6.25 space, the 2.5u spacing on either side of it (users can configure 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25 OR 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1, depending on their own preferences), these are the most common and will allow people to use the sets they want. Obviously the Winkeyless should be just as you already seem to have it!
I can do the case, the geometry project works out pretty quickly. If it works out right, the tooling/machine pathing will be the same for the bottom half of the cases, so the other part in multiple variations should be doable.
I was messing with the KLE link, and 2.5u spacing doesn't quite fit on either side. After the 6.25u spacebar and ~4 x 1.25u mods, there is only 3.75u left over. I looked at the Spirit PCB on mk.com, but I can't find an exact keymap of what is supported. Is the spacebar just in the same location as it is normally? That would give it a shift over slightly.Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
What PCB allows for that?
I think the SPirit FaceW does, but I'm not 100% sure. LeandreN also has a GB/IC thread for a similar layout, just without this case style.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77342 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77342)
LeandreN's GB/IC is for a 7u spacebar though. Are we thinking of making this both winkeyless + hhkb or just hhkb?
Would definitely be interested in this case! However, are those 4 little ears on the sides of the case going to be there? :o
As far as plates, there are a whole lot of options out there. I would concentrate on the case first, and just add them if they make sense to add price wise for you and buyers.
As far as plates, there are a whole lot of options out there. I would concentrate on the case first, and just add them if they make sense to add price wise for you and buyers.
I agree with this, mostly since I like PCB mount or acrylic plates but I'd like to see how much the case might be before thinking about other parts :))
Plus Leandre has some nice one's already, might as well put your time into just a case first.
Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
What PCB allows for that?
Ideal bottom row would probably 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1
What PCB allows for that?
There isn't any PCB that allows for that; which is why I was confused when I read that reply.
7u is the only way to go.
An update coming right up!
Did some prototyping this week, and got some interesting data.Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
Height comparison of different style of caps. It looks like Cherry/OEMs are just a bit shorter than SP. The height of the case will be adjusted for that.Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
Cutout tests for corner radii. For CNCing, trying to find the largest possible radius, and a .125" endmill should work perfectly for every keycap I could test. SP has the most "square caps," and need the most clearance.Show Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
But I'm an idiot and didn't bring the keycaps for testing at the Laser cutter. Cut something out with .25" corners, and the keycaps get stuckShow Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )on the sides.
I'll go back tomorrow and try the case out again with the smaller corners. Got a real plate so the final measurements are getting close!
Also, the FaceW PCB does support 7u spacebars with both HHKB or Winkeyless mods.
Would absolutely love to grab one of these for my next build! Did you account for the short R shift w/ FN key? Or did you just put a regular shift over that spot in the prototype because it's easier to do it that way :p?
Also my only suggestion would be to minimize the amount of excess lip, height, and width. It'd help give it the portability we all seek for in these builds but maybe you could add a spot for a brass weight attachment on the underside to give it more weight for people who'd like that?
Also what about rounded corners?
Just like kmac happy.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kvIkpyC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oww5gth.jpg)
At the same time, however, those are designed to work with a special plate that has tabs specifically for the case. The plan with this case is to have it compatible with all Poker style plates and PCB's, without the need to buy a special plate along with the case.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hnoJT4y.jpg)
Kmac happy has full-size 60%pcb and plate.
At the same time, however, those are designed to work with a special plate that has tabs specifically for the case. The plan with this case is to have it compatible with all Poker style plates and PCB's, without the need to buy a special plate along with the case.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hnoJT4y.jpg)
Kmac happy has full-size 60%pcb and plate.
I would love a aluminum case for my hhkb but they need to streamline the case.
How much is one of these likely to cost? I'm interested but won't confirm that I will buy one yet.
So the reason why the Topre aluminum case was so expensive wasn't because of the frame per-say, but actually due to the integration of the plate that is unique to the HHKB. Cutting and milling of something that intricate really pushed the price.
Since this case is literally just that - and doesn't include the plate in case, I'm sure it'll be much much closer to the ~100-ish range given previous cases sold on here.... I could be totally wrong though.
I do absolutely doubt that it would ever be anywhere near 400, let alone 250....
Any updates on the actual case design? Did you get around to adding some sort of angle to the case? My only major concern is that it will look too "squarish"
Any updates on the actual case design? Did you get around to adding some sort of angle to the case? My only major concern is that it will look too "squarish"Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nrqsmnm.jpg)
Newest version, includes the most likely measurements from the 60%. A tilt can be accomplished with feet on the back of the case, much like the GON models.
In terms of 'feet' options, I assume an acrylic and/or metal 'ramp' would cost a fortune more to produce?
I for one would definitely be interested in rounded corners, but I do have to say that the square corners/edges look great!
Sorry i meant to say that the edges of the top piece at the borders aren't so sharp/square. Look at the top of an HHK and see how the edge is slightly rounded on the top pieces
If it is actually compatible with a 60% I am in; but, there should be options for 1.5,1,1.5,7,1.5,1,1.5 and for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25 bottom rows, right?
If it is actually compatible with a 60% I am in; but, there should be options for 1.5,1,1.5,7,1.5,1,1.5 and for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25 bottom rows, right?
Wouldn't that be dependent on PCB?
Since they don't require blockers something like a TEX could work unless you mean something else.
I'm keen on a 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 case with the 1's being blocked off with blockers attached to the case tho.
If it is actually compatible with a 60% I am in; but, there should be options for 1.5,1,1.5,7,1.5,1,1.5 and for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25 bottom rows, right?
Wouldn't that be dependent on PCB?
Since they don't require blockers something like a TEX could work unless you mean something else.
I'm keen on a 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 case with the 1's being blocked off with blockers attached to the case tho.
I need the same, but I just asked to be sure the OP and interested parties are aware that a case made with blockers for 1.5u each side will not fit the other combination and as Poker has been set as an example it may be confusing.
If it is actually compatible with a 60% I am in; but, there should be options for 1.5,1,1.5,7,1.5,1,1.5 and for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25 bottom rows, right?
If it is actually compatible with a 60% I am in; but, there should be options for 1.5,1,1.5,7,1.5,1,1.5 and for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25 bottom rows, right?
Wouldn't that be dependent on PCB?
Since they don't require blockers something like a TEX could work unless you mean something else.
I'm keen on a 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 case with the 1's being blocked off with blockers attached to the case tho.
I need the same, but I just asked to be sure the OP and interested parties are aware that a case made with blockers for 1.5u each side will not fit the other combination and as Poker has been set as an example it may be confusing.If it is actually compatible with a 60% I am in; but, there should be options for 1.5,1,1.5,7,1.5,1,1.5 and for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25 bottom rows, right?
At this stage, there are three different case options, one with the blockers for the HHKB (1.5u on the edges), one with blockers for Winkeyless (1u in between 2 1.5u keys), and an option for one without blockers. If there is interest in the standard 60% style (no blockers), it can probably be made. There are fewer advantages for doing a two part case without blockers, but it would allow for some nice two-toning and backlighting if you're into that.
The mounting holes on the bottom plate are based off of the standardized Poker plate, so a blockerless style would be compatible with other keyboards, like the Pok3r and v60.
can you guys please explain to me what is the advantages of HHKB blocked style has over the no blocker 60% one?
Is it just for the aesthetic reason?
In term of plate and pen compatibility, both are equal right?
can you guys please explain to me what is the advantages of HHKB blocked style has over the no blocker 60% one?The hhkb style case with outside blockers is for aesthetics and of course it would need a pcb and plate that are capable of a symmetrical hhkb style bottom row with 7u spacebar.
Is it just for the aesthetic reason?
In term of plate and pen compatibility, both are equal right?
Thanks guys for the answers.can you guys please explain to me what is the advantages of HHKB blocked style has over the no blocker 60% one?The hhkb style case with outside blockers is for aesthetics and of course it would need a pcb and plate that are capable of a symmetrical hhkb style bottom row with 7u spacebar.
Is it just for the aesthetic reason?
In term of plate and pen compatibility, both are equal right?
The hhkb case will not be compatible with standard layout keyboards such as poker or v60.
“Poker style mounting holes” means it's compatible with aftermarket PCBs that utilise THOSE SAME mounting holes/placement as the poker and other similar keyboards.
If you like this and want to use it on a poker or v60 then obviously you would just get the standard one with no blockers. That's if it goes ahead.
I may be wrong in all of this, please correct if so.
can you guys please explain to me what is the advantages of HHKB blocked style has over the no blocker 60% one?The hhkb style case with outside blockers is for aesthetics and of course it would need a pcb and plate that are capable of a symmetrical hhkb style bottom row with 7u spacebar.
Is it just for the aesthetic reason?
In term of plate and pen compatibility, both are equal right?
The hhkb case will not be compatible with standard layout keyboards such as poker or v60.
“Poker style mounting holes” means it's compatible with aftermarket PCBs that utilise THOSE SAME mounting holes/placement as the poker and other similar keyboards.
If you like this and want to use it on a poker or v60 then obviously you would just get the standard one with no blockers. That's if it goes ahead.
I may be wrong in all of this, please correct if so.
Do you know which keyboard's PCB uses 1.25 modifiers?can you guys please explain to me what is the advantages of HHKB blocked style has over the no blocker 60% one?The hhkb style case with outside blockers is for aesthetics and of course it would need a pcb and plate that are capable of a symmetrical hhkb style bottom row with 7u spacebar.
Is it just for the aesthetic reason?
In term of plate and pen compatibility, both are equal right?
The hhkb case will not be compatible with standard layout keyboards such as poker or v60.
“Poker style mounting holes” means it's compatible with aftermarket PCBs that utilise THOSE SAME mounting holes/placement as the poker and other similar keyboards.
If you like this and want to use it on a poker or v60 then obviously you would just get the standard one with no blockers. That's if it goes ahead.
I may be wrong in all of this, please correct if so.
Any PCB with 1.25u modifiers only will not fit this case, it will be only for those PCBs that support 1.5u, 1u modifiers with 7u space bar like winkeyless, GON Nerd60, GH60 and the likes.
However:
For a poker , why would I just get the standard one with no blockers?
Isn't this blocker case meant to be use on a poker, and tries to resemble the HHKB look ?
By the way, will GH60 boards which is 60%, work as well?
Do you know which keyboard's PCB uses 1.25 modifiers?can you guys please explain to me what is the advantages of HHKB blocked style has over the no blocker 60% one?The hhkb style case with outside blockers is for aesthetics and of course it would need a pcb and plate that are capable of a symmetrical hhkb style bottom row with 7u spacebar.
Is it just for the aesthetic reason?
In term of plate and pen compatibility, both are equal right?
The hhkb case will not be compatible with standard layout keyboards such as poker or v60.
“Poker style mounting holes” means it's compatible with aftermarket PCBs that utilise THOSE SAME mounting holes/placement as the poker and other similar keyboards.
If you like this and want to use it on a poker or v60 then obviously you would just get the standard one with no blockers. That's if it goes ahead.
I may be wrong in all of this, please correct if so.
Any PCB with 1.25u modifiers only will not fit this case, it will be only for those PCBs that support 1.5u, 1u modifiers with 7u space bar like winkeyless, GON Nerd60, GH60 and the likes.
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Do you know which keyboard's PCB uses 1.25 modifiers?can you guys please explain to me what is the advantages of HHKB blocked style has over the no blocker 60% one?The hhkb style case with outside blockers is for aesthetics and of course it would need a pcb and plate that are capable of a symmetrical hhkb style bottom row with 7u spacebar.
Is it just for the aesthetic reason?
In term of plate and pen compatibility, both are equal right?
The hhkb case will not be compatible with standard layout keyboards such as poker or v60.
“Poker style mounting holes” means it's compatible with aftermarket PCBs that utilise THOSE SAME mounting holes/placement as the poker and other similar keyboards.
If you like this and want to use it on a poker or v60 then obviously you would just get the standard one with no blockers. That's if it goes ahead.
I may be wrong in all of this, please correct if so.
Any PCB with 1.25u modifiers only will not fit this case, it will be only for those PCBs that support 1.5u, 1u modifiers with 7u space bar like winkeyless, GON Nerd60, GH60 and the likes.
I would really love a case like this to go with a new build with Leandren hhkb style plates. The thing is that we know it won't fit on standard 60% keyboard, so it only leaves the option to people with custom build with no switches soldered on the mods or new builds. It woulld we great though if we could have this gb around the same time as leandrens so we can reach MOQ more easily.
Did you get the samples? Any updates?
Please don't add anything fancy, it's blanI would really love a case like this to go with a new build with Leandren hhkb style plates. The thing is that we know it won't fit on standard 60% keyboard, so it only leaves the option to people with custom build with no switches soldered on the mods or new builds. It woulld we great though if we could have this gb around the same time as leandrens so we can reach MOQ more easily.
I will try to coordinate with either him or another GB to get the plates and PCB's run at the same time. It has crossed my mind, and I am working on it.Did you get the samples? Any updates?
No samples yet, the machine shop guy is really busy. I'm trying to lock in a time I can help him at his shop to do menial tasks so he can do more work, and build a working relationship.
I spent some of last week making a punch for another keyboard job, that should help and generate some capital for this endeavor (moar prototypes!) The CAD's have been sent off, and the CAM should be underway.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EWYNzmW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L3nflmS.jpg)
Made a design for the slanted case. At this point, it should meld almost seamlessly with the top part of the case. It is also a bit bland, so welcoming ideas for designs along the side. There are recesses on the screw holes so that the heads are hidden and parallel to the top case. It does leave a little bit of a strange look because of the fillet, but it's sort of one or the other.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Bb46R2Q.jpg)
Little feeties for tenting up the case. Will probably try to see if TEX feet will work, or just machine them on the lathe. Also added little divots for keeping the rubber bumpers in place. Those will probably be laser engraved into the case, with the possibility of doing other designs on a custom order basis. I'll do some checking into this as well.
It's getting close, thanks for keeping up with the thread!
Please don't add anything fancy, it's blank look is rather nice.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EWYNzmW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L3nflmS.jpg)
The main advantage of this case compared with the sandwich style ones, like GON, Sprit and Winkeyless, is that it can be used with PCBs with 1.5,1,1.5,7,1.5,1,1.5 optional bottom row, with no need for a plate; also, it has the advantage over Viper that it does not require a special PCB, please keep those advantage and do not turn it into a replica of the currently available cases.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7qVfEVH.png)
I already joined Leandren GB for HHKB Orange Plates, so please add orange color option!
Fast update: Mid progress on machining prototype.
Got to do some cutting this morning, will probably go and finish up tonight. Few things going forward that should be fixable, but here's where we stand.Show Image(http://imgur.com/wLcutLG)Show Image(http://imgur.com/TWq1luL)
Massive chips! Was running 450 thou axial with 150 thou radial. The machine almost stalled, so that was fun. Worked to decrease the feed, but it's going to be slow. Not something that concerns all of you, but it's going to make it a bit slower for prototypes, and I'm going to need another machine shop to do the production run.Show Image(http://imgur.com/BAr3NzE)Show Image(http://imgur.com/W3MzERZ)
Overall the shape is coming along pretty well. The area inside the rim is going to be machined away, so those lines are going to go away. I didn't set up a finishing pass on this first run, I'll do that when I get back on the machine. Should help eliminate the smear on the sides too. However, if the dimensions work, it should be mostly just CAM and machining finalization. I have a plan for the slant case. Involves using another part to change the angle of the machining face, should work out alright.
TL;DR: Fixing machining things, designs is looking A-OK! ;D
Do you think we could have colours other than ordinary colors that appear all the time with other plates ?
eg. a really deep dark blue that's almost black
Or is the colour choice quite limited ?
Update after a night of machining and a day of reflection (note: the following is not totally relevant to all of you, but just a reason for the delay):Please do orange! Leandren is currently running his r4 GB with orange pcb and orange hhkb plate.
Workholding is going to be the next big issue I need to tackle, that caused the prototype case to be thrown from the vise once and move during the operation twice. As the internal pocket is machined, the side walls get thinner and thinner. Since I'm holding the part by the long ends (next to the space bar), there is a lot of thin material that can act like a spring. Since aluminum is pretty shifty, it starts to deform, and instead of the whole vise gripping the part, the part bends so that only the corners of the vise are gripping it. This does not provide enough force to combat the cutting forces and torque from the cutter, and the part moves. If it's not fixed, the cases won't actually be able to fit keys. I'm working on this, and have some ideas on how to do it.
Moving forward, it probably means I'll have to make a jig to hold the part vertically. This will counter the bending by pushing the force onto the areas that are still strong because of vertical thickness. It should be simple-ish to make, but that might take another weekend or so. I'm also looking to find a machine shop to do production at, they probably have the experience to recognize this issue earlier :(
Also damaged my roughing endmill because I was running it too fast in the morning. It was cutting the aluminum so fast that the bit was pulled into the material as it cut around. This became a problem because the bottom of the machine path was about 0.1 inches above the vise jaws. However, the bit got pulled down more than that and hit the jaws. Surprising, it got pushed back up by the hardened steel and continued cutting. Until it reached a pocket, where it had to enter the material vertically. Turns out the bottom of the cutter got scalloped by the steel and the bit can't really plunge/helix into stock very well. I was able to get it in by slowing down the feedrate and stopping midway through as the spindle started to sound like it was about to explode, but a pain overall. As a result, I had to slow down the entire feedrate. From talking to the consultants at the shop, the feed would have worked on a machine more rigid than the one I used (no other CNCs were available at that location). So I'm looking for another machine to do it at the earlier feedrate. (Faster feed means less time = less cost)
So going forward is going to be about making a few minor modifications to the creation process of the case, the design looks fine. All the keys on my 60% actuate fine when in the case. No bits of metal are stuck touching the caps, preventing their motion. The drill holes to attach to the bottom case look fine, and the sides are nice and thin.
I'll try to keep you all updated on the process of machining out both the top case and the slanted bottom. I've got ideas for workholding, they just need to be finalized! I'm also interested to hear what color options you all are thinking.
So looking at this and going off of what you said, are you planning on creating your own plate? The more I thought about this the more I thought that your case is much different than what LeandreN is trying to accomplish. His plates and PCBs are sort of universal. I think if I look at your design, the case is almost like a viper (more unique - which I prefer)... Are you going to have more than just orange ??
So looking at this and going off of what you said, are you planning on creating your own plate? The more I thought about this the more I thought that your case is much different than what LeandreN is trying to accomplish. His plates and PCBs are sort of universal. I think if I look at your design, the case is almost like a viper (more unique - which I prefer)... Are you going to have more than just orange ??
Still planning to use normal key switch plates and use the same mounting system. The plate in the photos is only to hold the part while it is cut, and would not be in the final product.
I'm trying to keep it as universal as possible, all the measurements are based off of off the shelf components, but while making the case itself look as unique as possible.
I already have black and red textured powders, which I adore. I have seen a lot of interest in the orange, but by all means, find another color. If there are more people for different colors, the easier it becomes to get them. The plan is to do the actual coating myself, so the main price barrier is getting the powder. A half pound is maybe $15 plus shipping, so the minimum quantities are going to be pretty small.
Looking great DotDash. Appreciate the step-by-step of the milling mounting.
Perhaps it's best for dotdash to supply us with a website link that sells the powder (or the one that he would be interested in purchasing from) and then we can make choices based on those options?
I'm not really into the idea of an orange case, but seems like there is a bit of interest. My vote would definitely be for a black-blue type color!
Would you be interested in starting something like the MIRA is doing? Getting the interest checkers to pay you an amount to ensure a spot and also to help you with costing of prototyping. This would mainly benefit you with science things as well as us
I think this color blue would go nicely with LeandreNs blue plate that is currently being offered in his GB. Yeh or neh?
Edit: I am referring to the plate and case color, not the keycaps IMO !
Haha yeah :/ that's why I'm gonna order another plate and pcb me thinksI think this color blue would go nicely with LeandreNs blue plate that is currently being offered in his GB. Yeh or neh?
Edit: I am referring to the plate and case color, not the keycaps IMO !
Yep looks awesome - just to reiterate and I'm sure you already knew but this build will not require an hhkb plate - it's made purposefully to support standard plates and cover the corners
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I'm in. What is the material and price estimation? (not that I care for price, I don't have a woman anymore, so I don't have to spend money on dinners).
I'm in. What is the material and price estimation? (not that I care for price, I don't have a woman anymore, so I don't have to spend money on dinners).
@DotDash2 that sound quite good price.
@ideus not for some time.
I'm in. What is the material and price estimation? (not that I care for price, I don't have a woman anymore, so I don't have to spend money on dinners).
I've been doing more CAD/CAM work, but it's not complete, and I'm doing my current estimates on a really small low power machine. So the time will be less machining time, but more operating costs. As of right now, the material is looking at about $4 a pound, so around $25 for each blank. Then an hour to 90 minutes of machining and per part setup. So my current overestimate is around $100-$150, if not less. I can't really promise that, but I also hope for something less.
I apologize for this taking so long, a bunch of personal life stuff came up, and it's harder for me to get the time to prototype and finish the design. :(
Not really, i just am tired of s**ts, which is 100% of women in west. ;)
I'm in. What is the material and price estimation? (not that I care for price, I don't have a woman anymore, so I don't have to spend money on dinners).
I've been doing more CAD/CAM work, but it's not complete, and I'm doing my current estimates on a really small low power machine. So the time will be less machining time, but more operating costs. As of right now, the material is looking at about $4 a pound, so around $25 for each blank. Then an hour to 90 minutes of machining and per part setup. So my current overestimate is around $100-$150, if not less. I can't really promise that, but I also hope for something less.
I apologize for this taking so long, a bunch of personal life stuff came up, and it's harder for me to get the time to prototype and finish the design. :(
$150 sound pretty reasonable. Since it will be the only HHKB case on the market that use normal 60% pcb.
Any update OP?
Any update OP?
Production is still in progress, it's just hard for me to get time on the machines right now. School is ramping up right now, I have 3 AP tests next week. The last time I went in for some work, a bit snapped because the machine took a nose dive instead of going up like the code said it was. I'm trying to figure out why so that doesn't happen again.
I did get the fixture clamps made, and have the metal for the first prototype. I've been trying to get in contact with the machine shop, and he hasn't really responded to me.
These delays are the main reason I don't want to take anyone's money until I know it's going to work.
I have the CAD files on Github, if you want to try and 3D print them. I want to have a full machined prototype so that both the toolpath and fixture are going to work. https://github.com/dotdash32/Cases/tree/master/LLID%20Case (https://github.com/dotdash32/Cases/tree/master/LLID%20Case)
Hopefully once the summer hits, we'll be able to finish this up!
Looks pretty great and excited!
I think the powder coats might end up better if we had a poll added to the thread? Or were you going to do that after the requests?
I'd be in for some kind of green. But I guess I will be the only one in on that color. If not, here are my favorite greens:
Kawasaki green (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/Kawasaki-Green/) Shiny
Monster green (http://www.powderbuythepound.com/Monster-Green/) More matte
Sparkle Granny Smith Dormant (http://www.powderbuythepound.com/Sparkle-Granny-Smith-Dormant/) I first clicked at it because of the strange name, but the example images look pretty good.
Purple would be my other suggestion, and probably more popular, so here are my favorite purples:
Dormant purple (http://www.powderbuythepound.com/Dormant-Purple/) I kinda fell in love with this one
Purple starlight (http://www.powderbuythepound.com/Purple-Starlight/) Also not too bad, a little darker
I'll probably add these to the google form, but since I already wrote the post I might as well send it.
Looks pretty great and excited!
I think the powder coats might end up better if we had a poll added to the thread? Or were you going to do that after the requests?
I'm not sure how to do a thread wide poll, but I also want a few more options. I threw together a Google Form about the colors, here. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/17yZE7dpe4Qo6RE6za431Bl9wm-oN_pTCx9lL1IPissk/viewform) If you can, please fill it out. It has the blue and orange options I've seen mentioned here, as well as two other colors I have on hand.
Link to flat blue (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/Anodized-Blue-Transparent-Flat/) and to flat orange (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/Anodized-Orange-Transparent-Flat/) on PBTB.
White would be a really good color for powder coating since it's the only kind of colour that anodizing cannot provide.
It also fits with the hhkb aesthetic.
White would be a really good color for powder coating since it's the only kind of colour that anodizing cannot provide.
It also fits with the hhkb aesthetic.
Added my thoughts and added a blue grey link in the form. Thanks a ton for adding the raw off the mill option, looking forward to getting this sucker anodized! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:YES definitely blue grey.
White would be really good, but not a pure white. The Pok3r white case is too white, there needs to be a certain amount of yellow/greyness to it.
You probably want a black one in there too, maybe silver. Other than that I think purple and orange are winners. The Tex cases seem to be popular colours.
One thing to note is that the conductivity of the case is a major concern.
You especially cannot just use a case "raw" since that will mess up the circuits. It also would concern me if the powder coating chipped or wore off somehow again bringing up this problem.
I would ask of you to have the cases clear anodized. Even for the coated boards.
One thing to note is that the conductivity of the case is a major concern.
You especially cannot just use a case "raw" since that will mess up the circuits. It also would concern me if the powder coating chipped or wore off somehow again bringing up this problem.
I would ask of you to have the cases clear anodized. Even for the coated boards.
This looks so good.
How are you deciding who will be in on this buy? I'd hate to miss out on this
Both options will probably stay on for the GB, but there will be an MOQ of two or three pieces each.
A case fitting the authentic layout with a six units space bar would be great. There are some options that fit the seven units space bar one, already.
stop necrobumping this thread it's really getting on my nerves
just wait for the next MX HHKB buy, there are like 2 or 3 more planned for this year alone
stop necrobumping this thread it's really getting on my nerves
just wait for the next MX HHKB buy, there are like 2 or 3 more planned for this year alone
Where are they?
stop necrobumping this thread it's really getting on my nerves
just wait for the next MX HHKB buy, there are like 2 or 3 more planned for this year alone
Where are they?
Fjell pro is coming end of October, I think.
LZ CLSs/h coming probably before end of the year