Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:49:56
Many of you know that I purchase caps well over market price so this shouldn't be surprising.
I normally do not sell caps that I buy but when I do, it's to fund my purchase of more artisans.
When I sell caps, I sell them at my exact cost. I recently sold GhostJugger some caps that I had multiples of at the same price they cost me.
I can't ship caps when I'm in school all day so I normally ask my wife to do it.
He paid the invoice on the 13th of January 2015
I said I would ship the caps on the 14th.
My wife was unable to ship it for me yesterday so she shipped it today instead. An hour after my wife shipped the caps today (Around 1 PM my time).
I haven't updated the PP yet but I was originally going to send him the message when i get home. I opened my email only to realize that my PP accounts have been frozen and now I can't purchase more caps because GhostJuggernaut figured that it would be nice to freeze my account due to my inability to ship the cap in 1 day and that two days is way too long for me to ship to him.
Email from Paypal.
[redacted]
Reddit Messages (My GH is bugged so I've been messaging via reddit)
Confirmation that my wife shipped the cap while I was in class almost an hour before he messaged me with a threat on reddit.
Post by: joey on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:51:02
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:51:03
Post by: Signature on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:51:13
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:52:39
Synjin, I thought you were very respective of your "I won't say who buys/sells from me" policy? Unless you have mud to fling, I suppose.
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:53:47
Oooh, it gets its own thread now. :cool:I normally keep all my dealings private unless it is something like this. This could have been resolved by talking rather than instantly freezing someone's paypal account after a day of being late shipping.
Synjin, I thought you were very respective of your "I won't say who buys/sells from me" policy? Unless you have mud to fling, I suppose.
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
Post by: joey on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:55:04
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:55:20
Why was my topic I started removed?
No topics have been removed, sir.
Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:56:48
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
Could you post or PM me a link? I've already gone through most of ripster's wiki on reddit regarding keyboard drama. :D
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:56:58
That was my bad ^_^ I misclicked the wrong button and thought it disappeared LOLWhy was my topic I started removed?
No topics have been removed, sir.
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:57:19
Oooh, it gets its own thread now. :cool:
Synjin, I thought you were very respective of your "I won't say who buys/sells from me" policy? Unless you have mud to fling, I suppose.
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
remember when he stole one from u?
Post by: Signature on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:58:22
Srsly, ripsters wiki? There is a search function just to the top right. Mr Synjin is known for "not recieving clacks".Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
Could you post or PM me a link? I've already gone through most of ripster's wiki on reddit regarding keyboard drama. :D
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:58:48
OHHHHHHHHH SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPOooh, it gets its own thread now. :cool:
Synjin, I thought you were very respective of your "I won't say who buys/sells from me" policy? Unless you have mud to fling, I suppose.
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
remember when he stole one from u?
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:00:04
> person x posts a "this dude scammed me"
> pitchforks sharpened
> synjin posts "a mod is scamming me right now"
> mods and other people rush in with **** posts to defend other mod
This is the result of a bad rep, synjin
Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:00:11
Srsly, ripsters wiki? There is a search function just to the top right. Mr Synjin is known for "not recieving clacks".Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
Could you post or PM me a link? I've already gone through most of ripster's wiki on reddit regarding keyboard drama. :D
I don't want to derail this, but he's got a very good wiki set up. Lol. I'll start reading. Thank you!
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:00:54
I do. I remember when he said I stole his eyeland that he later found but never apologized to me about =(Oooh, it gets its own thread now. :cool:
Synjin, I thought you were very respective of your "I won't say who buys/sells from me" policy? Unless you have mud to fling, I suppose.
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
remember when he stole one from u?
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:01:19
Srsly, ripsters wiki? There is a search function just to the top right.Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
Could you post or PM me a link? I've already gone through most of ripster's wiki on reddit regarding keyboard drama. :D
+1
Noob here, but I got the reference due to spending way too much time looking at older topics.
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:01:39
This could have been resolved by talking
You went 20 hours without responding to him...?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:01:44
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
Could you post or PM me a link? I've already gone through most of ripster's wiki on reddit regarding keyboard drama. :D
I fear it may not be so simple. There were multiple topics and discussions over a few weeks time period, and some occurred within other threads as well. And I really do not wish to re-ignite previous issues.
I don't want to derail this, but he's got a very good wiki set up. Lol. I'll start reading. Thank you!
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you should read this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias) before reading that wiki. ;)
Post by: Signature on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:02:56
Refund is the trigger wordThis could have been resolved by talking
You went 20 hours without responding to him...?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:03:51
I do. I remember when he said I stole his eyeland that he later found but never apologized to me about =(Oooh, it gets its own thread now. :cool:
Synjin, I thought you were very respective of your "I won't say who buys/sells from me" policy? Unless you have mud to fling, I suppose.
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
remember when he stole one from u?
I remember when I didn't say that, and actually specifically said "I am not accusing Synjin". :)) Those were sketchy and paranoid times, but no accusations were made. I do apologize for what happened, but it was never my intent and I would appreciate if you stopped claiming that I accused you.
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:06:22
Whatever man. You were salty but you did specifically single out my name when you messaged people that you were missing that eyeland that you misplaced.I do. I remember when he said I stole his eyeland that he later found but never apologized to me about =(Oooh, it gets its own thread now. :cool:
Synjin, I thought you were very respective of your "I won't say who buys/sells from me" policy? Unless you have mud to fling, I suppose.
Also to any newbies out there, I recommend reading up on your Clack drama history before commenting. ;)
remember when he stole one from u?
I remember when I didn't say that, and actually specifically said "I am not accusing Synjin". :)) Those were sketchy and paranoid times, but no accusations were made. I do apologize for what happened, but it was never my intent and I would appreciate if you stopped claiming that I accused you.
You were upset you misplaced something, I was salty I was accused. Everything was cleared up afterwards so we should probably get along more now ^_^ We can always still be friends in the end right?
Sorry for being too defensive during that time. I hope you could understand the situation that I was in when it all was happening at once.
Post by: NiceAndCreamy on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:08:06
just my 2c
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:09:13
Isn't "asking for a refund" more of "hey can I have my money back for x?" Not immediately filing a claim through paypal and potentially freezing someone's money.
just my 2c
Are you related to milky?
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:12:30
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:13:05
yo can I get some reapers up in this *****, I know you got two of dem pink ones braI only have one atm =(
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:14:24
yo can I get some reapers up in this *****, I know you got two of dem pink ones braI only have one atm =(
if you give it to me, I'll reeeal keep it safe... katty can vouch for me, im totes bananas
Post by: xondat on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:15:26
Post by: NiceAndCreamy on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:15:49
Are you related to milky?I don't know a milky but I do live in the Philly "burbs" :P
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:16:00
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
Post by: nickheller on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:17:45
Why do you even do this? You are just trying to shame ppl. Resolve it yourself in private pls
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:18:57
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
Do a package intercept then. Lord knows that the last thing we need is another cap drama thread.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:20:02
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:21:11
yo can I get some reapers up in this *****, I know you got two of dem pink ones braI only have one atm =(
if you give it to me, I'll reeeal keep it safe... katty can vouch for me, im totes bananas
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:21:25
Are you related to milky?I don't know a milky but I do live in the Philly "burbs" :P
Nice. Hang around here for a while and don't let this thread deter you from interaction. Eventually we'll do a big NY/PA/NJ meetup.
Post by: NiceAndCreamy on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:22:42
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
Post by: demik on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:25:23
Post by: xondat on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:25:57
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
He didn't keep his promise and kept him uninformed.
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:26:48
Synjin is a ho
Halverson owns him.
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:28:44
What creamy said, he could and personally should of waited at least 3 days in my opinion without having to cause this issue, if Ghost did open a claim that without giving a reasonable time to get a response thats ****ty to do no matter who they are.A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
Also I love it when things like this happen, at least we know whos paying the big money for the keys :p
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:29:46
Synjin and I have spoke off and on since I first joined. I have always gave him benefit of the doubt when drama comes up, and have never judged him for it. He approached me needing to fund some new purchases and we agreed and two items and a price. This was around noon EST on Wednesday. I asked about shipping and he said he was in class and couldn't ship them until the following morning. The next day we spoke some more about random topics, and I asked about shipping again. This was in the afternoon. He said he was in class until late and his wife had the caps and would be shipping them and he would have the tracking info shortly. We last spoke last evening around 7-8pm. I pmd him twice today asking for shipping info, and decided at 3pm today that I was going to just cancel the invoice due the uneasy feeling I had, and the zero response about shipping info. I received tracking about 10 minutes after that.
Since then synjin has posted all this bull****. I did not know that a cancellation request through pp would freeze any funds. Call me naive, stupid, whatever, I don't care. I have never had this happen to me. In regards to long GBs, this is not a gb. This is a transaction amongst two individuals for $400. I do expect the caps to be shipped quickly. I expect it to be your number one priority.
While we are here, I work full time 40-50hr weeks and go to college full time in the evenings. I am able to have things i trade or sell shipped within 24hrs normally. There have been circumstances where it has been 24-48, but I communicate that to the other person in advance. I guess what I'm trying to say is that USPS shipping is convenient and should not take long to ship.
Regardless of everything, I apologize for freezing your funds. As soon as I receive the caps, j will close the dispute, since if j do it now I will be unable to open one in the future.
If anyone has any questions for me, or question my morality in all of this, the floor is yours. I'll be as transparent as I can since synjin decided to do this.
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:29:59
What creamy said, he could and personally should of waited at least 3 days in my opinion without having to cause this issue, if Ghost did open a claim that without giving a reasonable time to get a response thats ****ty to do no matter who they are.A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
Also I love it when things like this happen, at least we know whos paying the big money for the keys :p
how else do you think he became a mod?
kekekekekeke
Post by: NiceAndCreamy on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:32:06
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
He didn't keep his promise and kept him uninformed.
People are only human and make mistakes, that doesn't mean you freeze their money without question.
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:35:13
I'll be as transparent as I can since synjin decided to do this.
You a chocolate or a vanilla guy?
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:35:25
Magic rainbows, and a poop ton of cookie bribes?What creamy said, he could and personally should of waited at least 3 days in my opinion without having to cause this issue, if Ghost did open a claim that without giving a reasonable time to get a response thats ****ty to do no matter who they are.A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
Also I love it when things like this happen, at least we know whos paying the big money for the keys :p
how else do you think he became a mod?
kekekekekeke
Or
££££
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:35:50
Dark chocolate all day.I'll be as transparent as I can since synjin decided to do this.
You a chocolate or a vanilla guy?
Post by: inanis on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:36:19
I laughed!Isn't "asking for a refund" more of "hey can I have my money back for x?" Not immediately filing a claim through paypal and potentially freezing someone's money.
just my 2c
Are you related to milky?
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:36:29
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
I guess I have never bought/sold Clacks or Bros but one day lacking communication seems perfectly fine to me. Shoot, I ordered a mouse on December 30th and it still hasn't arrived, but my jimmies remain unrustled because the seller has maintained communication, even if there are day or two gaps between responses.
Post by: Michael on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:36:40
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
He didn't keep his promise and kept him uninformed.
People are only human and make mistakes, that doesn't mean you freeze their money without question.
If PayPal decided to freeze his account, that isn't Ghost's fault. That was PayPal's decision based on a number of factors. Ghost didn't call up PayPal all like 'sup, imma need you to lock dis **** down aite?'
I think communication is important if a lot of money is on the line. Not responding for a full day is a bit concerning, and perhaps he was just worried.
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:37:55
Dark chocolate all day.I'll be as transparent as I can since synjin decided to do this.
You a chocolate or a vanilla guy?
I appreciate the transparency. FWIW, I'm satisfied.
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:38:24
Magic rainbows, and a poop ton of cookie bribes?What creamy said, he could and personally should of waited at least 3 days in my opinion without having to cause this issue, if Ghost did open a claim that without giving a reasonable time to get a response thats ****ty to do no matter who they are.A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
Also I love it when things like this happen, at least we know whos paying the big money for the keys :p
how else do you think he became a mod?
kekekekekeke
Or
££££
worse
€€€€€€
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:38:25
I'll post my side since synjin decided to make all of this public.
Synjin and I have spoke off and on since I first joined. I have always gave him benefit of the doubt when drama comes up, and have never judged him for it. He approached me needing to fund some new purchases and we agreed and two items and a price. This was around noon EST on Wednesday. I asked about shipping and he said he was in class and couldn't ship them until the following morning. The next day we spoke some more about random topics, and I asked about shipping again. This was in the afternoon. He said he was in class until late and his wife had the caps and would be shipping them and he would have the tracking info shortly. We last spoke last evening around 7-8pm. I pmd him twice today asking for shipping info, and decided at 3pm today that I was going to just cancel the invoice due the uneasy feeling I had, and the zero response about shipping info. I received tracking about 10 minutes after that.
Since then synjin has posted all this bull****. I did not know that a cancellation request through pp would freeze any funds. Call me naive, stupid, whatever, I don't care. I have never had this happen to me. In regards to long GBs, this is not a gb. This is a transaction amongst two individuals for $400. I do expect the caps to be shipped quickly. I expect it to be your number one priority.
While we are here, I work full time 40-50hr weeks and go to college full time in the evenings. I am able to have things i trade or sell shipped within 24hrs normally. There have been circumstances where it has been 24-48, but I communicate that to the other person in advance. I guess what I'm trying to say is that USPS shipping is convenient and should not take long to ship.
Regardless of everything, I apologize for freezing your funds. As soon as I receive the caps, j will close the dispute, since if j do it now I will be unable to open one in the future.
If anyone has any questions for me, or question my morality in all of this, the floor is yours. I'll be as transparent as I can since synjin decided to do this.
I was unable to reply because we were messaging through reddit and I wasn't able to check reddit as I've forgotten. I didn't reply for 20 hours doesn't mean freeze my accounts and prevent me from purchasing anything for the duration of a few days until you receive the caps.
I can assure you that you will not find a single person in any forums or reddit subs that I've dealt with who did not receive an item I shipped them in the exact condition I described it weather it be trades, sales, or partial trade with a purchase.
Post by: Steezus on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:38:43
Considering the issues with you "receiving caps" in the past I honestly agree with Ghostjuggernaut.
Post by: demik on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:41:59
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:42:14
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:42:24
I had perfect dealings with Ghostjuggernaut, but congrats Synjin for being the newest member of my blacklist since you don't know how to deal with issues maturely. :thumb:
Considering the issues with you "receiving caps" in the past I honestly agree with Ghostjuggernaut.
Just because you have had perfect dealings with someone does not meant that it applies to everyone that person has dealt with. You would be just as upset if you have multiple purchases in line and you suddenly can't buy rare hard to find items because some guy decided to freeze your account because you shipped his caps a day late.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:43:48
some guy decided to freeze your account
Can we stop saying that? That's not what happened... :confused:
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:44:42
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:46:05
I'll post my side since synjin decided to make all of this public.
Synjin and I have spoke off and on since I first joined. I have always gave him benefit of the doubt when drama comes up, and have never judged him for it. He approached me needing to fund some new purchases and we agreed and two items and a price. This was around noon EST on Wednesday. I asked about shipping and he said he was in class and couldn't ship them until the following morning. The next day we spoke some more about random topics, and I asked about shipping again. This was in the afternoon. He said he was in class until late and his wife had the caps and would be shipping them and he would have the tracking info shortly. We last spoke last evening around 7-8pm. I pmd him twice today asking for shipping info, and decided at 3pm today that I was going to just cancel the invoice due the uneasy feeling I had, and the zero response about shipping info. I received tracking about 10 minutes after that.
Since then synjin has posted all this bull****. I did not know that a cancellation request through pp would freeze any funds. Call me naive, stupid, whatever, I don't care. I have never had this happen to me. In regards to long GBs, this is not a gb. This is a transaction amongst two individuals for $400. I do expect the caps to be shipped quickly. I expect it to be your number one priority.
While we are here, I work full time 40-50hr weeks and go to college full time in the evenings. I am able to have things i trade or sell shipped within 24hrs normally. There have been circumstances where it has been 24-48, but I communicate that to the other person in advance. I guess what I'm trying to say is that USPS shipping is convenient and should not take long to ship.
Regardless of everything, I apologize for freezing your funds. As soon as I receive the caps, j will close the dispute, since if j do it now I will be unable to open one in the future.
If anyone has any questions for me, or question my morality in all of this, the floor is yours. I'll be as transparent as I can since synjin decided to do this.
I was unable to reply because we were messaging through reddit and I wasn't able to check reddit as I've forgotten. I didn't reply for 20 hours doesn't mean freeze my accounts and prevent me from purchasing anything for the duration of a few days until you receive the caps.
I can assure you that you will not find a single person in any forums or reddit subs that I've dealt with who did not receive an item I shipped them in the exact condition I described it weather it be trades, sales, or partial trade with a purchase.
Like I said, I apologize. I was nervous due to the nature of all of this and jumped the gun. My fault. I had no idea that you pp funds would be frozen.
It seemed odd that you did not reply to me, when we were talking regularly the prior 3 days. So yes, a large gap in replies concerned me.
I think I've stated my peace through the process. If anything new needs answering I will gladly reply. Otherwise I will publicly update once the package arrives and apologize again.
Sorry for the undue drama, and the issues with your PayPal synjin.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:46:53
Post by: byker on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:48:51
- Ghost didn't get your account locked, he just cancelled the invoice. Its not really his fault that paypal locked your account.
- Posting publicly really wasn't necessary.
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:49:00
I did not know that a cancellation request through pp would freeze any funds. Call me naive, stupid, whatever, I don't care.Your naive for doing it, always give people a little more time like I said 3 working days is usually enough incase something happened then ask for a refund.
This is a transaction amongst two individuals for $400. I do expect the caps to be shipped quickly. I expect it to be your number one priority.Holy **** what keys did you even get?
newest member of my blacklist since you don't know how to deal with issues maturely. :thumb:Not picking on you steezus you seem nice, but I think saying Synjin can't maturely deal with thing is wrong since Ghost basically locked him out of his money for not updating him within a day, again people need to learn to wait at least a few days before doing this sort of stuff, I may not articulate my words as well but I think ghost is as bad if not worse, and just for that again ghost you seem nice and all, but I wouldn't want to deal with you knowing you do this after not hearing anything for a day :/
Post by: Karura on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:49:28
Post by: NiceAndCreamy on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:51:28
A wild "refund" appears! It's super effective!Except the package was clearly shipped before the refund request was even filed.
This whole thing's a joke; sort it in private.
You said you'd send it and then didn't say that you couldn't so you'd do it the next day - he went without a message for a whole day so he filed for the refund. Tough ****, your fault.
Ohhh noooo a whole day!
He didn't keep his promise and kept him uninformed.
People are only human and make mistakes, that doesn't mean you freeze their money without question.
If PayPal decided to freeze his account, that isn't Ghost's fault. That was PayPal's decision based on a number of factors. Ghost didn't call up PayPal all like 'sup, imma need you to lock dis **** down aite?'
I think communication is important if a lot of money is on the line. Not responding for a full day is a bit concerning, and perhaps he was just worried.
oop seems like he just canceled. Didn't know they locked accounts with that. Never mind!
Post by: demik on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:51:45
So is demilk niceandcreamy?
**** no
Post by: linkshine on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:53:03
If it was someone new and he doesn't reply for a day- I totally get it
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:53:38
God I like you so much NiceAndCreamy, you are a civil person and I like that.If PayPal decided to freeze his account, that isn't Ghost's fault. That was PayPal's decision based on a number of factors. Ghost didn't call up PayPal all like 'sup, imma need you to lock dis **** down aite?'
I think communication is important if a lot of money is on the line. Not responding for a full day is a bit concerning, and perhaps he was just worried.
Well he filed the claim... There would be no difference in waiting a couple days and filing then.
Post by: byker on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:53:44
I like both guys, but knowing Synjin's collection - I really doubt he'd ever skam over caps only worth $400. With the transactions we know of I'd have still felt very confident at that point.
If it was someone new and he doesn't reply for a day- I totally get it
I don't think you were around for Synjin's previous threads.
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:53:53
So is demilk niceandcreamy?
**** no
its sorta yes and no, right? or is it more of a caramel?
niceandcreamy is a stand-up man
Post by: Steezus on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:54:21
newest member of my blacklist since you don't know how to deal with issues maturely. :thumb:Not picking on you steezus you seem nice, but I think saying Synjin can't maturely deal with thing is wrong since Ghost basically locked him out of his money for not updating him within a day, again people need to learn to wait at least a few days before doing this sort of stuff, I may not articulate my words as well but I think ghost is as bad if not worse, and just for that again ghost you seem nice and all, but I wouldn't want to deal with you knowing you do this after not hearing anything for a day :/
The main problem I have is that this is a personal matter that was taken to public to do nothing but create drama. Synjin was as quick to post this thread as Ghost was as quick to file a complaint, however Ghost did say that he did not know that it would freeze Synjin's account and I never knew that could happen as well. There was $400 on the line for Ghost, he gave Synjin the benefit of the doubt considering his history but I would be cautious going in with the trade as well. That's just how I see it, obviously both parties could have dealt with the situation better but there is absolutely no point of bringing this to the public unless the situation happened to worsen.
Post by: linkshine on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:55:33
I like both guys, but knowing Synjin's collection - I really doubt he'd ever skam over caps only worth $400. With the transactions we know of I'd have still felt very confident at that point.
If it was someone new and he doesn't reply for a day- I totally get it
I don't think you were around for Synjin's previous threads.
I've poured over them. yes. I was around him as a Dota item collector in 2012 as well.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:55:41
So is demilk niceandcreamy?
**** no
its sorta yes and no, right? or is it more of a caramel?
niceandcreamy is a stand-up man
You are implying that demik is not?
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IMHO seems like this has gotten blown out of proportion. I like both of these guys. Can we all just go back to being sortof-awkward-online-friends?
Post by: Karura on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:56:43
At first, I also thought Ghost might have "jumped" on and filed a PayPal claim or complaint, but after reading some more, it's clear to me that Ghost only cancelled an invoice (which is no big deal), and whatever happened on Synjin's side the transaction is really not directly the cause of Ghost cancelling an invoice.
I don't see any problem with this, just a bit of complaining.
Post by: wilarseny on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:00:09
Not picking on you steezus you seem nice, but I think saying Synjin can't maturely deal with thing is wrong since Ghost basically locked him out of his money for not updating him within a day, again people need to learn to wait at least a few days before doing this sort of stuff, I may not articulate my words as well but I think ghost is as bad if not worse, and just for that again ghost you seem nice and all, but I wouldn't want to deal with you knowing you do this after not hearing anything for a day :/
Yea... I'm much more active on MM than here, but if a buyer did this to me I'd be pretty salty, and would at the very least air my grievances to the mods over there. If the problem is a mod, what are you going to do? Public exposure is the only thing that'll change that kind of behavior going forward. And needless to say I wouldn't be selling anything to that person probably ever.
Whatever synjin's past is... I have no idea. But it doesn't seem relevant here. If you're in GJ's position and are worried that these are just going to never ship (after 20 freakin hours, c'mon man, **** comes up), there is no difference to you whether you initiate the dispute now or two days from now. Like, ok, if you got in a car accident or your pet got sick and you need the money fast, fine, but don't just do this **** for giggles. If you're in this community for any length of time, and especially if you've seen these failed or super-delayed GBs, you HAVE to know that any adverse action is bad for the longterm health of a Paypal account. Even if you don't know that your one dispute is going to freeze the whole thing it's a **** move.
Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:00:12
So from what Ghost said, he didn't exactly file a complaint, but just cancelled an invoice.
No, Ghost definitely filed a dispute with PayPal. It was in the initial photos that Synjin posted (and has since taken down). Ghost filed a dispute stating that the items had not been received. This is consistent with PayPal freezing Synjin's funds.
The issue here was a lack of communication and preemptive action (and reaction) from both sides. Now kiss and make up. :thumb:
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:03:13
So from what Ghost said, he didn't exactly file a complaint, but just cancelled an invoice.
At first, I also thought Ghost might have "jumped" on and filed a PayPal claim or complaint, but after reading some more, it's clear to me that Ghost only cancelled an invoice (which is no big deal), and whatever happened on Synjin's side the transaction is really not directly the cause of Ghost cancelling an invoice.
I don't see any problem with this, just a bit of complaining.
The issue I see with what has been said is that ghost already paid the invoice. Then cancelled it? To me, if you paid something already, you either wait for shipment, or request a refund. Not cancel the PAYMENT (not the invoice). That's what got Synjin's account locked.
Post by: beehatch on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:05:39
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:43:53
So from what Ghost said, he didn't exactly file a complaint, but just cancelled an invoice.
At first, I also thought Ghost might have "jumped" on and filed a PayPal claim or complaint, but after reading some more, it's clear to me that Ghost only cancelled an invoice (which is no big deal), and whatever happened on Synjin's side the transaction is really not directly the cause of Ghost cancelling an invoice.
I don't see any problem with this, just a bit of complaining.
For everyone confused.
He paid the invoice
I wasn't able to respond after 20 hours and shipped a day late
He filed a dispute that froze my account because he said he wants a refund for not getting his item.
Paypal is unfreezing my account now because the person. I talked to updated the tracking info. Thy said that he filed the complaint even if they recommend that the buyer give the seller 5-7 days go ship the item before filing a dispute and escalating it.
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:37:53
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:43:05
Post by: Karura on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:43:56
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:44:52
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:46:03
Let's be honest, isn't it a little early to be putting in nominations for Mod of the Year anyway?I nominate HoffmanMyster for mod of the year. :cool:
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:46:41
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:46:52
+1 on what JD said Ghost should of waited it seems to mainly his problem this time not Synjin :/So from what Ghost said, he didn't exactly file a complaint, but just cancelled an invoice.
At first, I also thought Ghost might have "jumped" on and filed a PayPal claim or complaint, but after reading some more, it's clear to me that Ghost only cancelled an invoice (which is no big deal), and whatever happened on Synjin's side the transaction is really not directly the cause of Ghost cancelling an invoice.
I don't see any problem with this, just a bit of complaining.
The issue I see with what has been said is that ghost already paid the invoice. Then cancelled it? To me, if you paid something already, you either wait for shipment, or request a refund. Not cancel the PAYMENT (not the invoice). That's what got Synjin's account locked.
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:48:04
The issue about the shipping delay was simply a portion of it.
[Mod Edit: Redacted for personal info]
I'd like to apologize publicly as well.
I was partially at fault because I should have been more attentive to your messages and I also should have kept him updated ith his package. I definitely will learn from this so it does not happen again.
Edit: name removed for privacy
(http://i.imgur.com/uGMzbiJ.jpg)
Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 15 January 2016, 17:51:15
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 18:06:00
Synjin is just mad because he thought he was the only one allowed to scam peopleI'd love to see proof of me scamming someone. Everything in the past has been proven false accusations fueled by misinformation.
Post by: demik on Fri, 15 January 2016, 18:11:55
Still hate you mods.
Post by: Steezus on Fri, 15 January 2016, 18:13:41
Thank you for removing the kitten cancer.
Still hate you mods.
Love,
demik :-*
FTFY
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 18:15:25
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Tue, 19 January 2016, 15:50:46
Again, I would like to apologize to Synjin for making assumptions based on rumors. Apart from my mistake, everything went really well working with him.