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Title: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 10:35:51
So,  I'm watching the Godzilla while I eat der' Ramen..

(http://www.msgking.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/onion-avatar015.gif)


And I feel like..  It'd be pretty easy to beat godzilla given our current technology..  They just weren't properly utilized in the movies..




My plan would be to send an endless stream of piloted missiles into godzilla's eyes and mouth..   Even if he's got a tough shell,  he can't take bombs on the inside..


There are also Bunker busters, which I think would probably work, because godzilla is such a huge target,  If we dropped enough of them at once,, some of them would hit and penetrate godzilla's tough skin, and dig deep enough to blow out a chunk of dino steak..

Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 18 January 2016, 10:42:30
The problem isn't whether or not we have the firepower (we do), the problem is if Godzilla is around people. If there is too much potential for collateral damage it becomes a difficult choice to make.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: Bromono on Mon, 18 January 2016, 10:45:25
A small thermal warhead.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 10:48:40
Do you guys think a regular missile would feel like a "punch"  or a "nudge" or a "tickle"  to Godzilla..(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/efb50fe2.gif)
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 10:51:59
A small thermal warhead.

See here's the thing,   a big nuke would make the surrounding area uninhabitable to humans,   a small tactical nuke might not have enough oomfph to "kill" godzilla..


If we are to assume Godzilla's skeleton and skin can take the gravitational stress of being so large in the first place,   then everything on Godzilla is much tougher than steel..


A tactical nuke might be like a big gust of wind to Godzilla..
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: absyrd on Mon, 18 January 2016, 10:53:33
I'd kidnap his wife and children and hold them for ransom.

OR

Hack his finances.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: inanis on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:08:16
Find a female Godzilla, make them fall in love. Move them to a remote island where they can live in peace and harmony. Godzilla's wifey soothes his broken soul and she convinces him to be a protector of humanity.

Problem solved, no violence needed.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: animal on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:42:43
Find a female Godzilla, make them fall in love. Move them to a remote island where they can live in peace and harmony. Godzilla's wifey soothes his broken soul and she convinces him to be a protector of humanity.

Problem solved, no violence needed.
You watch too much TV :)
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: ImpendingxDoom on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:47:20
A small thermal warhead.

See here's the thing,   a big nuke would make the surrounding area uninhabitable to humans,   a small tactical nuke might not have enough oomfph to "kill" godzilla..


If we are to assume Godzilla's skeleton and skin can take the gravitational stress of being so large in the first place,   then everything on Godzilla is much tougher than steel..


A tactical nuke might be like a big gust of wind to Godzilla..

He came from the results of a hydrogen bomb test!
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: inanis on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:50:04
Find a female Godzilla, make them fall in love. Move them to a remote island where they can live in peace and harmony. Godzilla's wifey soothes his broken soul and she convinces him to be a protector of humanity.

Problem solved, no violence needed.
You watch too much TV :)
I figured since we were discussing Godzilla I could go as fantastical as I wanted. If this was something based in reality taking him out in the most violent manner possible is the only solution.

People (including realistic Godzillas) can't be fixed in this manner.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:51:42
A small thermal warhead.

See here's the thing,   a big nuke would make the surrounding area uninhabitable to humans,   a small tactical nuke might not have enough oomfph to "kill" godzilla..


If we are to assume Godzilla's skeleton and skin can take the gravitational stress of being so large in the first place,   then everything on Godzilla is much tougher than steel..


A tactical nuke might be like a big gust of wind to Godzilla..

He came from the results of a hydrogen bomb test!

No, Godzilla was a prehistoric beast awoken by the nuclear bomb tests.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:54:52
Psh just use a jet and a grappling like in Star Wars Episode V.  Hopefully when Godzilla falls over, he'll blow up because movies.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: ImpendingxDoom on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:55:59

A small thermal warhead.

See here's the thing,   a big nuke would make the surrounding area uninhabitable to humans,   a small tactical nuke might not have enough oomfph to "kill" godzilla..


If we are to assume Godzilla's skeleton and skin can take the gravitational stress of being so large in the first place,   then everything on Godzilla is much tougher than steel..


A tactical nuke might be like a big gust of wind to Godzilla..

He came from the results of a hydrogen bomb test!

No, Godzilla was a prehistoric beast awoken by the nuclear bomb tests.

In the OG he was "enhanced" by it. But there are a lot of origins lol
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: redbanshee on Mon, 18 January 2016, 12:00:26
With the Megazord of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esJ0Mqi983k
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 18 January 2016, 12:08:51

A small thermal warhead.

See here's the thing,   a big nuke would make the surrounding area uninhabitable to humans,   a small tactical nuke might not have enough oomfph to "kill" godzilla..


If we are to assume Godzilla's skeleton and skin can take the gravitational stress of being so large in the first place,   then everything on Godzilla is much tougher than steel..


A tactical nuke might be like a big gust of wind to Godzilla..

He came from the results of a hydrogen bomb test!

No, Godzilla was a prehistoric beast awoken by the nuclear bomb tests.

In the OG he was "enhanced" by it. But there are a lot of origins lol

From the first Godzilla film: Yamane presents his findings in Tokyo, estimating that Godzilla is 165 feet (50 m) tall and is evolved from an ancient sea creature becoming a terrestrial animal. He concludes that Godzilla has been disturbed from its deep underwater natural habitat by underwater hydrogen bomb testing. Debate ensues about notifying the public about the danger of the monster.

You are right, it was a hydrogen bomb. I am right, he was awoken/disturbed by it, not created by it. Everybody wins!
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 18 January 2016, 15:49:41
Heres my plan to defeat godzilla.

Firstly i would go find somewhere to hid as far away from lizard boi as possible. Secondly i would take a pile of booze. Thirdly i would get ****faced and commence ****pisting on gh. Then i would just wait for tp to sort it out considering he is not drinking anymore, he will have no choice but to deal with the issue while i get drunk and eat ramen.

I might even watch some pron.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: BlueNalgene on Mon, 18 January 2016, 16:07:50
Easy

Godzilla's weak point is the crummy T-Rex arms.  That and his large size can be used against him.

The spinal ridges provide an advantageous approach for climbers using rope hook systems.  Crampons can be secured between scales to prevent being completely unseated by unforeseen circumstances.  These small climbers would be less noticeable than a mite on the human body, due to the lack of skin sensitivity on the scales.  A team would be sent to the spot on the neck between the shoulderblades of the beast.  This point would be the most difficult for him to reach.  The team would be equipped with mining drills, crowbars, and one bigass needle.  The point would be to either pull apart the scales there or drill an opening to place the needle.  Then a simple pump could inject the creature with a potent neurotoxin.  I'm not up on my lizard physiology, so the specifics of this chemical are up in the air at the moment.

Is this feasible?  Let's do a quick calculation with some assumptions.  Assume that Godzilla's chemophysiology is similar to that of a very large human.  We could inject something to freeze his joints and nerves before killing him.  Something like botulinum toxin.  This is a good idea, because there is a lot of this chemical available in the world as Botox.  How much would it take?  The reported mass of Godzilla is 164,000 tons (source Popular Mechanics).  This is 148778297 kg.  The LD50 of botulinum toxin is 1.3–2.1 ng/kg intravenously or intramuscularly (source wikipedia) in humans.  Since we assumed the human equivalent, this would mean we need at most 312g of Botox to have a 50% chance of killing it.  That isn't very much.  We could increase that significantly to have a higher kill chance. 
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 18 January 2016, 16:11:33
I'd show him one of your posts. He'd die of cancer shortly after.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: xondat on Mon, 18 January 2016, 17:41:04
Tell him he's not allowed to use the colorway of his skin and that'll do it.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 18 January 2016, 17:46:57
The spinal ridges provide an advantageous approach for climbers using rope hook systems.  Crampons can be secured between scales to prevent being completely unseated by unforeseen circumstances.  These small climbers would be less noticeable than a mite on the human body, due to the lack of skin sensitivity on the scales.  A team would be sent to the spot on the neck between the shoulderblades of the beast.  This point would be the most difficult for him to reach. 

Godzilla isn't stupid though. I'm sure he'd just dive underwater or roll over when he noticed something on his back (just like dogs do when they get an itch). You may not notice a mite as its crawling along your body, but you'll almost certainly notice when it bites you.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: phosphoric on Mon, 18 January 2016, 17:54:39
considering we're on a keyboard forum, i think we're ignoring the source of his rage, and if there's anything i've learned from 12 years of the public school system, it's that fixing the root of a problem also yields a solution. we replace his domes with CUP RUBBER
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 18 January 2016, 18:05:09
what a silly question
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: Dongulator on Mon, 18 January 2016, 18:07:05
what a silly question

This is exactly one I said. We wouldn't need to beat Godzilla... Saitama would deal with him.
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 18:14:10
Psh just use a jet and a grappling like in Star Wars Episode V.  Hopefully when Godzilla falls over, he'll blow up because movies.

This is not technologically feasible.. We don't have cables as strong and light weight enough to pull this off..

The cable we have which are strong enough to "trip" godzilla, would be very thick and heavy..   

Our Planes can not possibly LIFT them..
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 18:21:51
Easy

Godzilla's weak point is the crummy T-Rex arms.  That and his large size can be used against him.

The spinal ridges provide an advantageous approach for climbers using rope hook systems.  Crampons can be secured between scales to prevent being completely unseated by unforeseen circumstances.  These small climbers would be less noticeable than a mite on the human body, due to the lack of skin sensitivity on the scales.  A team would be sent to the spot on the neck between the shoulderblades of the beast.  This point would be the most difficult for him to reach.  The team would be equipped with mining drills, crowbars, and one bigass needle.  The point would be to either pull apart the scales there or drill an opening to place the needle.  Then a simple pump could inject the creature with a potent neurotoxin.  I'm not up on my lizard physiology, so the specifics of this chemical are up in the air at the moment.

Is this feasible?  Let's do a quick calculation with some assumptions.  Assume that Godzilla's chemophysiology is similar to that of a very large human.  We could inject something to freeze his joints and nerves before killing him.  Something like botulinum toxin.  This is a good idea, because there is a lot of this chemical available in the world as Botox.  How much would it take?  The reported mass of Godzilla is 164,000 tons (source Popular Mechanics).  This is 148778297 kg.  The LD50 of botulinum toxin is 1.3–2.1 ng/kg intravenously or intramuscularly (source wikipedia) in humans.  Since we assumed the human equivalent, this would mean we need at most 312g of Botox to have a 50% chance of killing it.  That isn't very much.  We could increase that significantly to have a higher kill chance. 



This is an excellent post.. ^^


Delivery would be easier by missiles because they would act like giant syringes.   OR  we could pump the stuff up his nostrils via a --Nebulizer-- missile..



The only potential misstep here, is assuming that Godzilla would be weak against botulin toxin..

According to most movies,  Godzilla is highly Radio-Active,   which means he's a walking germ-killing machine..



It's like the radiation is part of his immune system killing foreign contaminants. 


Is botulin toxin going to break down under intense radiation. ?


Overall, I believe nothing is immune to brute force..


So if we consider the "time" it takes to defeat Godzilla a crucial factor, cuz he could destroy MANY cities while we figure out how to come up with a complicated plan..

M0ar missiles seems like a better plan because we already got a ton of that stuff..
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 18:24:41
I'd show him one of your posts. He'd die of cancer shortly after.

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_092_.gif)
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 18 January 2016, 18:32:04
ISIS
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:36:17
ISIS

I actually don't think they can beat Godzilla, because Isis doesn't have the firepower..   At least they'd run out too quickly..


Dude..  This would make a Great B-Movie.. hahahahahaha

Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 19 January 2016, 01:44:18
Could godzilla be knocked out by some kind of really heavy duty anesthetic and then experiment on how to cut into him or surgical methods of killing Godzilla?

I'm not sure if Godzilla would actually be affected by such a drug or not..
Title: Re: How would you beat Godzilla..
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 January 2016, 03:11:57
Could godzilla be knocked out by some kind of really heavy duty anesthetic and then experiment on how to cut into him or surgical methods of killing Godzilla?

I'm not sure if Godzilla would actually be affected by such a drug or not..


Here's the thing.. it'd take a long time to speculate as to "what chemicals work" on Godzilla's anatomy..


Whereas we KNOW,  enough brute force, will kill anything.. 

I'd still say, the faster we end this the better....


If you want to cut him up later..  that's quite simple once he's dead..