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Title: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:02:01: I buy this keyboard in Ebay for 400 USD.
I don't know this keyboard are really worth and the seller sent me the picture.
I don't know what this is the seller said it's LZ-FE ?
I never see this in amazon or keyboard selling site.
I have a picture from the seller.
[Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/3eQcl8t.jpg)
[Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/OgR76Rg.jpg)

help me to what this keyboard is
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:06:45: It's a custom (Korean?) keyboard produced by Team Redline. I'd say it's definitely worth at least $400 and I've seen them sell for more.

Unfortunately I don't have much information on the specifics of LZ-FE. :(
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:10:59: thankyou.
I use Logitech keyboard and I buy this in ebay I never see this keyboard are selling..

thanks for reply ;D
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:12:10: Consider yourself lucky sir :)
It's worth the price, it's a well built keyboard

what switch it comes with?
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:13:58: Quote from: jokrik on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:12:10
what switch it comes with?

Looks like Blacks, right?
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:14:42: thankyou.
the seller said 62G cherry black 1996 vintage swithes.
I don't know whats this mean I always use MX Blue.

I never saw this switch too...
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:16:17: Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:13:58
Quote from: jokrik on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:12:10
what switch it comes with?

Looks like Blacks, right?

I've seen that some older custom keyboards was assembled with modern blacks due to vintage blacks wasn't as popular as now
the difference is huge between those modern and vintage

I myself addicted to the vintage especially lubed
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:16:26: Quote from: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:14:42
thankyou.
the seller said 62G cherry black 1996 vintage swithes.
I don't know whats this mean I always use MX Blue.

I never saw this switch too...

Here's some info on switches: link (http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/index.php/2012/12/an-introduction-to-cherry-mx-mechanical-switches/).

Blacks are linear switches, which means you'll get no click sound and no tactile bump when you actuate the switch.
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:17:37: Quote from: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:14:42
thankyou.
the seller said 62G cherry black 1996 vintage swithes.
I don't know whats this mean I always use MX Blue.

I never saw this switch too...

That's great! you're already on you end game sir

I'm a clicky user like you, only uses blues/greens and other clicky stuff
but that vintage switch is an exception, it's so buttery smooth, and the springs is perfect weight

and the difference between the modern and vintage is huge, the vintage is so smooth while the modern has some scratchy feeling to it
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:19:26: the seller said he lubed with krytox ? 103 ? and 107 for slider? I don't know whats this and spring lubed with LSD Oil? this for car?
and stabilizer lubed with krytox 205 ?

he told me like this.
I don't know what this thing I only know about lsd gear oil why they use this ...
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:21:52: Quote from: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:19:26
the seller said he lubed with krytox ? 103 ? and 107 for slider? I don't know whats this and spring lubed with LSD Oil? this for car?
and stabilizer lubed with krytox 205 ?

he told me like this.
I don't know what this thing I only know about lsd gear oil why they use this ...

Haha it's a keyboard-nerd thing, krytox works really well with keyboard switches
all in all these lube act to smoothen the sliding process inside a switch when you press it

difference series has different thickness thus why they apply it differently? let's just say they've done their homework as in which goes well with what
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:34:29: Thankyou.
I think the spring from korea.
I think 62 is too high for me i like 50~55.
If i am good at soldering i wanna change to 50g or 55g spring
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:41:05: Thankyou.
I think the spring from korea.
I think 62 is too high for me i like 50~55.
If i am good at soldering i wanna change to 50g or 55g spring
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Olumin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:01:20: This thing looks looks a children's birthday party vomited on you keyboard...

Sorry... I never understood the hype about these Korean custom keyboards, they nearly allays look... like this...
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:08:49: Interesting keyboard. I want 456GT lol...
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: tronbeaver on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:19:40: Watch out for Team Redline. They look like scammers.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57897.0
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:23:00: I'm sorry whats scammer ?
Do i do any badthing? And i only know the team redline is a maker of keyboard??
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:24:40: Quote from: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:23:00
I'm sorry whats scammer ?
Do i do any badthing? And i only know the team redline is a maker of keyboard??
He is a troll ignore him. You didn't do anything wrong.
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:29:22: Quote from: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:23:00
I'm sorry whats scammer ?
Do i do any badthing? And i only know the team redline is a maker of keyboard??
No you have not done anything wrong

Team redline or should I say Druger(?) had taken a lot of money from people for a groupbuy keyset and ran off with it so people are a little weary of buying these keyboards.

Also as to what you said earlier you might be able to pop the top of the switch off and change the spring without the need to solder but double check with the keyboard first, but a lot of custom aftermarket keyboards allow for the removal of switch tops without the need to solder.
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:30:19: Oh.. Ok.. Thankyou. :'(
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:32:52: Switch top remov3 if i have led in the switch do i have to remove led? Or i can just open top right a way??
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 19 January 2016, 18:11:23: Quote from: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:32:52
Switch top remov3 if i have led in the switch do i have to remove led? Or i can just open top right a way??

Yes you have to desolder, unless its sip socketed
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 19:34:09: Oh it will be hard.....
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Homenubbie on Thu, 21 January 2016, 08:29:59: For $400 you should send back.
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:40:57: Why is this not good?
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: demik on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:44:49: BECAUSE IT'S NOT HHKB.

YOU CAME UP SON. THAT'S NOT A BAD PRICE. LZ'S **** IS USUALLY WAY OVER PRICED FOR HAVING CRAPPY PROGRAMMED PCBS THEY DONT BOTHER TO FIX UNTIL THEY GET NAGGED ENOUGH
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:48:16: Quote from: Jin on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:40:57
Why is this not good?

$400 for it is a great price, but if you ever get buyer's remorse then I'm your guy to talk to. :p
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: henz on Fri, 22 January 2016, 03:37:03: Quote from: demik on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:44:49
BECAUSE IT'S NOT HHKB.

YOU CAME UP SON. THAT'S NOT A BAD PRICE. LZ'S **** IS USUALLY WAY OVER PRICED FOR HAVING CRAPPY PROGRAMMED PCBS THEY DONT BOTHER TO FIX UNTIL THEY GET NAGGED ENOUGH

so true, it was chattering like a MF, then i bought a nerd and replaced the pcb.
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: tronbeaver on Fri, 22 January 2016, 09:17:05: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:24:40
Quote from: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:23:00
I'm sorry whats scammer ?
Do i do any badthing? And i only know the team redline is a maker of keyboard??
He is a troll ignore him. You didn't do anything wrong.

Says the SPAMray with over 15,000 posts.
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 09:28:44: Quote from: Jin on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:02:01
I buy this keyboard in Ebay for 400 USD.
I don't know this keyboard are really worth and the seller sent me the picture.
I don't know what this is the seller said it's LZ-FE ?
I never see this in amazon or keyboard selling site.
I have a picture from the seller.
[Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/3eQcl8t.jpg)
[Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/OgR76Rg.jpg)

help me to what this keyboard is

Beautiful LZ! Nice pickup for sure.
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: sitch on Fri, 22 January 2016, 09:46:57: How can you spend 400$ on some keyboard you have no idea of :confused:
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Fri, 22 January 2016, 12:08:11: I like the color.
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: tronbeaver on Fri, 22 January 2016, 12:26:23: I can paint my Pok3r red and sell it to you for $399.

:p :p :p
Title: Re: My Keyboard ?
Post by: Jin on Fri, 22 January 2016, 18:30:16: lol no