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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: leos on Wed, 25 November 2009, 17:26:40
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Preorder customers will receive their keyboards before anyone else — in early January 2010.
http://www.matias.ca/tactilepro3/ (http://www.matias.ca/tactilepro3/)
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If the price was a little lower I would think about buying one of those.
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the page says that it uses "an individual Alps Mechanical Switch". I thought real alps were no longer made.
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Unless you have a Mac, a Filco Zero would probably be a better choice anyway, same switches, and it's almost half the price.
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so isn't it somewhat misleading for them to say they are "Alps Switches" when in fact they are not. thats not to say that the fake white alps in the fukka are bad or anything.
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Didn't Matias buy up all of the real Alps switches that were being made before they went out of production? I could sweat they use REAL Alps switches, but I may be wrong...
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Yeah, read the last couple of paragraphs here...
http://db.tidbits.com/article/7607
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They might have bought all the remaining "real" Alps switches, but that article is from 2004. It seems likely that they have already gone through all of them. The article estimates that they would have to sell 9000 keyboards to use up the million switches they promised to buy.
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so isn't it somewhat misleading for them to say they are "Alps Switches" when in fact they are not. thats not to say that the fake white alps in the fukka are bad or anything.
Not really, Fukka's are simplified type-1s, just like real simplified switches, even made on the same machinery. I don't think it's really that disingenuous to call them ALPS if they're made in the same factory, on the same machinery, by the same people (Forward) as the originals.
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Except that Sandy posted about the Fukkas a while back confirming majestouch's statement.
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Seems like they are. Simplified-I ( real simplified you call ) without ALPS logo.
good enough for me.
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I don't see how this keyboard is worth $150. Most Alps keyboards you can find now is under $100. If I was to pay $150, I think I'll just save up and get the 87u.
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I'd rather get a Northgate or use my Focus than spend $150 on a keyboard with simplified ALPS keyswitches.
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I honesly can't say if it's worth it... I've never used simplified ALPS... I've used well worn complicated ALPS and NIB complicated alps, and I can truly say I prefer the latter.
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The big point is that you can get a Filco with the same switches for half the prices. Also, I wonder if it will have some of the controller issues that the TP2 had...
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My ALPS keyboard has definitely been through plenty of wear and tear but it feels pretty good.
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The big point is that you can get a Filco with the same switches for half the prices. Also, I wonder if it will have some of the controller issues that the TP2 had...
I suspect that the controller issues had a lot to do with problems with their "Optimizer" shortcuts as the problems reported on the TP2 are very similar to the problems encountered on their Optimizer keyboards. The TP3 (at least the first runs) no longer run the Optimizer shortcuts.
Bummer for me because I wanted a mechanical board with those shortcuts... but only if they fixed the ghosting problems.
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It has to cost more. It's a white Apple keyboard.
Any white shiney thing from Apple costs too much.
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Is there another keyboard with a USB hub built into it besides the Matias and the Das? The USB hub was what originally caught my attention with the Das and led me to this forum. This forum led me to pick up my Unicomp (and a couple of Model M's) instead of the das, but I'd still like to have a USB port in the keyboard.
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billm reviewed that one here.
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:5141 (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:5141)
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if you think fukka alps are "fake" then, seriously, put your money where your mouth is and sue these guys for false advertising. at this point i think we just might need a court order to gag the chorus of "fake fake fake"
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How much different are Fukkas from the original white ALPS?
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The only thing I miss from my Matias Tactile Pro 2 (besides the "=" in the numpad from the proper Mac layout) is the handy foreign characters and symbols printed on the keycaps, so I could easily remember those shortcuts. The clangy "pong" of the keycaps on the uptick of the switches always annoyed the hell out of me, and cheapass plastic they use for the keyboard casing is downright inexcusable. Don't even get me started on the plastic feet.
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if you think fukka alps are "fake" then, seriously, put your money where your mouth is and sue these guys for false advertising. at this point i think we just might need a court order to gag the chorus of "fake fake fake"
I think you are reading into this a little bit too much...
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I need an ALPS keyboard. BADLY!