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Title: F internals 50/49 key IBM
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 22 January 2016, 18:32:50
Hey guys, I am looking at getting a 50/49 key IBM buckling springs board, but I want F internals over PCB, not membrane.

To my knowledge, these are going to be relegated to just the 4704 banking series, correct?

There are some other 49/50 key versions on ebay that look like they have the metal back plate styled like an F, and look like it has a foam and top plate similar to F, but it is clearly a Membrane inside.

Can anyone shed some proper light on this subject?  I would really like to replace my Orbweaver with an IBM.
Title: Re: F internals 50/49 key IBM
Post by: E TwentyNine on Fri, 22 January 2016, 19:00:01
These were pulled apart here a while ago, believe it was F-like construction with M-like mechanicals.

I'm sure there's details buried here somewhere.
Title: Re: F internals 50/49 key IBM
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 22 January 2016, 19:03:00
Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 22 January 2016, 19:00:01
These were pulled apart here a while ago, believe it was F-like construction with M-like mechanicals.

I'm sure there's details buried here somewhere.

Yeah, that's the impression I was getting from the ones that orhilacrin has listed on eBay. 

I wonder if Ellipse would allow others to use his suppliers for F parts and someone design a pcb and case for a FGH36.  I think there could be enough interest for that to do a run.
Title: Re: F internals 50/49 key IBM
Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:21:20
From the Kish website it looks as if there was a 50 key that would be complete F

http://kishy.ca/?attachment_id=852

as the one in the picture does not have the ibm logo just like the others
Title: Re: F internals 50/49 key IBM
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:30:24
Quote from: fanpeople on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:21:20
From the Kish website it looks as if there was a 50 key that would be complete F

http://kishy.ca/?attachment_id=852

as the one in the picture does not have the ibm logo just like the others

Thanks for the link, any idea how often these pop up for sale?
Title: Re: F internals 50/49 key IBM
Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:33:47
Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:30:24
Quote from: fanpeople on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:21:20
From the Kish website it looks as if there was a 50 key that would be complete F

http://kishy.ca/?attachment_id=852

as the one in the picture does not have the ibm logo just like the others

Thanks for the link, any idea how often these pop up for sale?

honestly I could swear that I have come across some for sale, specifically these ones. I just can't remember where. It may have been a parts site when I was digging deep of a kish or f77. I am going to do a bit of looking when I get home from work (also thinking) to try and remember where and if I have actually seen them.
Title: Re: F internals 50/49 key IBM
Post by: fanpeople on Sat, 23 January 2016, 02:50:18
It was Ellipse. He found a bunch a while ago....

https://deskthority.net/f-o-r-s-a-l-e-f58/some-ibm-model-f-50-key-4704-keyboards-t9409.html

I think he sold them all but it couldn't hurt to hit him up about it.