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Title: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: iLLucionist on Wed, 27 January 2016, 05:01:07
Are there any stock programmable keyboards with clears that are programmable with let's say multiple layers? How does this programming work? For instance, are there also controllers that allow to program the default layer?
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: Fiery on Wed, 27 January 2016, 05:04:24
Pok3r is a 60% with 4 layers 2-4 are programmable. maybe take a look at that.
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: iLLucionist on Wed, 27 January 2016, 05:11:54
Pok3r is a 60% with 4 layers 2-4 are programmable. maybe take a look at that.

I should've mentioned this in my original post, but the pok3r has some issues/nuisances I am wary of. For example, people report losing their programmings on firmware updates, no osx/linux support without a virtual machine, led's always on in layers 3-4, and unability to program the first layer, and bugs in firmware.

Otherwise, the pok3r feels tempting but it feels a bit like it's 80-90% decent, but the other 10% is really annoying to live with.
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: Fiery on Wed, 27 January 2016, 05:36:10
well the firmware updating makes sense and how often do you need to update it? not supported on linux and osx? the led could be annoying I guess.
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: ctm on Fri, 29 January 2016, 16:27:52
For true programmability you need a board which you can flash in custom firmware. There were a few like Ultimate Hacking KB, White Fox, KC60, S60-X etc, but there does not seem to be any at this moment.
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: davkol on Sat, 30 January 2016, 02:15:04
Input Club K Type, when it's ready.
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 30 January 2016, 06:16:26
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: ctm on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:59:47
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?
I think the Infinity 60% is quite close. It has a layout very close to HHKB (split right shift and split backspace). It supports custom firmware including TMK. You can put it in your metal case if you get the flat plate version. You can also put o-rings on it.
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 01 February 2016, 04:47:05
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?
I think the Infinity 60% is quite close. It has a layout very close to HHKB (split right shift and split backspace). It supports custom firmware including TMK. You can put it in your metal case if you get the flat plate version. You can also put o-rings on it.
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?

Thanks! But where to buy? It has been on massdrop, but I cannot find it elsewhere..
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: ctm on Mon, 01 February 2016, 07:53:23
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?
I think the Infinity 60% is quite close. It has a layout very close to HHKB (split right shift and split backspace). It supports custom firmware including TMK. You can put it in your metal case if you get the flat plate version. You can also put o-rings on it.
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?

Thanks! But where to buy? It has been on massdrop, but I cannot find it elsewhere..
The drop ended some time ago and it does not seem to be another round soon. You can keep an eye on classifieds. I also took a quick look at GON and FaceW PCB. They both seems to support split right shift and split backspace. They have their own GUI to customize firmware, but does not support TMK unless you flash in new bootloader.
Title: Re: Any stock programmable TKL's/60/68's with clears?
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 01 February 2016, 09:25:01
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?
I think the Infinity 60% is quite close. It has a layout very close to HHKB (split right shift and split backspace). It supports custom firmware including TMK. You can put it in your metal case if you get the flat plate version. You can also put o-rings on it.
So I was thinking about my ideal 60% board. It would have MX Clear, look like pok3r with high extremely quality components (steel case that doesn't scratch, perhaps even heavier which should be possible if you scrap all components together and solder yourself), o-rings, HHKB-layout, a controller that allows to custom flash so that I can develop my own firmware in C or even asm would be fine.

Basically, I would like a HHKB with clears (or topre), but then plate-mounted and extremely heavy and silent. And custom programming capabilities AS I DESIRE, completely custom. So that I could also program my own layer-1 default bindings.

Hmmm... one can dream right?

Thanks! But where to buy? It has been on massdrop, but I cannot find it elsewhere..
The drop ended some time ago and it does not seem to be another round soon. You can keep an eye on classifieds. I also took a quick look at GON and FaceW PCB. They both seems to support split right shift and split backspace. They have their own GUI to customize firmware, but does not support TMK unless you flash in new bootloader.

Thanks! I'll patiently wait.. I've requested it on massdrop already, but so have many.