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Title: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:35:23: Because it dissolves away too many nutrients..

Just drink the damn water. ..

sheesh..

So simple, problem solved (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_089_02.gif)
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:39:28: I steam my veggies
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:42:20: Quote from: Diokhan on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:39:28
I steam my veggies

but, that takes a long time depending on the type of veggie..

boiling is so fast.. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_084_.gif)
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:44:10: That is true.. I spend a lot of time in the kitchen :P
But I love to kook so that is ok :)
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:49:48: Didn't we discuss this already?
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: jaffers on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:50:33: boiled carrots are really good if you put some honey in the water
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:51:54: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:49:48
Didn't we discuss this already?

yes . it keeps coming up, i want to keep people aware that the dissolved vitamins don't magically Disappear..
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:55:26: Steaming and microwaving preserve more nutrients. You probably lose something any time you don't eat fresh and raw.

Some nutrients are leeched into the water, and/or others are chemically changed and degraded by the heat.

On the other hand, many common modern foods (grains and beans for example) are inedible in their natural state.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: jaffers on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:57:03: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:51:54
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:49:48
Didn't we discuss this already?

yes . it keeps coming up, i want to keep people aware that the dissolved vitamins don't magically Disappear..

But water is just water right? It gets rid of stuff so they arent there anymore? I dont understand anything tp pls send help
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:59:17: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:51:54
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:49:48
Didn't we discuss this already?

yes . it keeps coming up, i want to keep people aware that the dissolved vitamins don't magically Disappear..
Just lean over the boiling pot with a towel draped over your head then you can just breath in the vitamins and minerals as they cook off.

I'm sure this works as I saw it in crocodile dundee.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:00:40: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:59:17
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:51:54
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:49:48
Didn't we discuss this already?

yes . it keeps coming up, i want to keep people aware that the dissolved vitamins don't magically Disappear..
Just lean over the boiling pot with a towel draped over your head then you can just breath in the vitamins and minerals as they cook off.

I'm sure this works as I saw it in crocodile dundee.

Our saviour here.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:23:48: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:59:17
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:51:54
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:49:48
Didn't we discuss this already?

yes . it keeps coming up, i want to keep people aware that the dissolved vitamins don't magically Disappear..
Just lean over the boiling pot with a towel draped over your head then you can just breath in the vitamins and minerals as they cook off.

I'm sure this works as I saw it in crocodile dundee.

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Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:25:35: Microwave is your best friend tp
You can game while microwaving, no nutirent loss and like most gamers problems they tend to forget when they're cooking while gaming
Microwave solves that...

*BING*
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: sitch on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:29:23: wait.. what? I have been boiling broccoli all these time :'(
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:31:19: Quote from: Jokrik on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:25:35
Microwave is your best friend tp
You can game while microwaving, no nutirent loss and like most gamers problems they tend to forget when they're cooking while gaming
Microwave solves that...

*BING*

JOkrik.. Tp4 = Grown up .. Tp4 don't haz the time for vidya.. But i often fantasize about it..
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:35:36: Quote from: sitch on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:29:23
wait.. what? I have been boiling broccoli all these time :'(

Studies show, if you don't drink the water, you could be missing 30-40% of certain water soluable vitamins from your veggies..

BUT.... if you drink that water.. you're g2g..
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:10:29: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:31:19
Quote from: Jokrik on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:25:35
Microwave is your best friend tp
You can game while microwaving, no nutirent loss and like most gamers problems they tend to forget when they're cooking while gaming
Microwave solves that...

*BING*

JOkrik.. Tp4 = Grown up .. Tp4 don't haz the time for vidya.. But i often fantasize about it..

That's a choice mr. tp. I'm a grown up, but I still play games 2-3 (sometimes 4) times a week. Being a grown up doesn't mean you have to quit playing vidya
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 29 January 2016, 08:51:59: don't cook them, eat them neat.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: bazh on Fri, 29 January 2016, 09:13:23: I made veggies soup, brocolli, cauliflower, carrots, potatoes,... season the stock and eat everything then. Win.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 29 January 2016, 10:13:18: Quote from: bazh on Fri, 29 January 2016, 09:13:23
I made veggies soup, brocolli, cauliflower, carrots, potatoes,... season the stock and eat everything then. Win.

I try to simmer down a bit, so that I don't have too much liquid volume, so i could eat more stuff with the veggies.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: mobbo on Fri, 29 January 2016, 10:16:28: Who is "they" and why does it matter what they say?

Do you think the nutrients lost from boiling vs steaming vs frying vegetables is substantial enough to make a marked difference in your health? Cook veggies how you prefer to eat them. As long as you are eating the recommended serving per day I'd say you're doing great. :thumb:

I ain't drinkin carrot water mang.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 29 January 2016, 10:21:40: You can boil veggies in water sometimes.
The restaurant I work at goes through so much broccoli that we have to boil it.
It still tastes fine. The only issue is that any longer than 2 minutes will kill the broccoli.
The broccoli also has to be cooled or it will continue to cook. Though at home you'll just use the food right away so it's perfectly fine as is.
In order to cool it you have to bathe it in ice water; normal water will kill the broccoli.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: mobbo on Fri, 29 January 2016, 10:26:52: Quote from: FrostyToast on Fri, 29 January 2016, 10:21:40
You can boil veggies in water sometimes.
The restaurant I work at goes through so much broccoli that we have to boil it.
It still tastes fine. The only issue is that any longer than 2 minutes will kill the broccoli.
The broccoli also has to be cooled or it will continue to cook. Though at home you'll just use the food right away so it's perfectly fine as is.
In order to cool it you have to bathe it in ice water; normal water will kill the broccoli.

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Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: bazh on Fri, 29 January 2016, 10:40:05: Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 29 January 2016, 10:13:18
Quote from: bazh on Fri, 29 January 2016, 09:13:23
I made veggies soup, brocolli, cauliflower, carrots, potatoes,... season the stock and eat everything then. Win.

I try to simmer down a bit, so that I don't have too much liquid volume, so i could eat more stuff with the veggies.

well you can boil them in beef or chicken stock for more flavour liquid after, I always cook the veg with some pork ribs and bones
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 29 January 2016, 11:01:36: You only lose the nutrients if you over cook them... If your water turns green when you're cooking broccoli, you have done it too long.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 29 January 2016, 13:57:43: Why not just steam it? They retain most of their crispness and cook as if boiled, all without absorbing absurd amounts of water and leaking nutrients.
Honestly, who boils their veggies anymore, this is the 21st century.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:10:36: Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 29 January 2016, 13:57:43
Why not just steam it? They retain most of their crispness and cook as if boiled, all without absorbing absurd amounts of water and leaking nutrients.
Honestly, who boils their veggies anymore, this is the 21st century.
People who don't have counter space/money for a steamer. Or who just find it easier to throw veg in a pan with water.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: Auxo on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:13:54: just stick a multivit into ur veggies, problem solved. ez
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:32:56: Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:10:36
Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 29 January 2016, 13:57:43
Why not just steam it? They retain most of their crispness and cook as if boiled, all without absorbing absurd amounts of water and leaking nutrients.
Honestly, who boils their veggies anymore, this is the 21st century.
People who don't have counter space/money for a steamer. Or who just find it easier to throw veg in a pan with water.

Speed is a big issue.. steaming takes a long time vs just boiling/ blanching
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:33:49: Quote from: CJD_Anthony on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:13:54
just stick a multivit into ur veggies, problem solved. ez

U know.. I'm not actually sure if that's equivalent.. I personally think it probably works ok.. but the internet says synthetic vitamins don't work the same as real vitamins.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:42:42: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:35:23
Because it dissolves away too many nutrients..

Just drink the damn water. ..

sheesh..

So simple, problem solved
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_089_02.gif)

I actually do this. I use it to make shakes no joke..... :-X just some fruit and that water problem solved
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:22:24: Quote from: appleonama on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:42:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:35:23
Because it dissolves away too many nutrients..

Just drink the damn water. ..

sheesh..

So simple, problem solved
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_089_02.gif)

I actually do this. I use it to make shakes no joke..... :-X just some fruit and that water problem solved

which fruits are u boiling.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:28:38: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:22:24
Quote from: appleonama on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:42:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:35:23
Because it dissolves away too many nutrients..

Just drink the damn water. ..

sheesh..

So simple, problem solved
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_089_02.gif)

I actually do this. I use it to make shakes no joke..... :-X just some fruit and that water problem solved

which fruits are u boiling.

I blend the fruits with boiled water(cooled down obviously). Hispanics do weird **** I am part of that.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:38:14: Quote from: appleonama on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:28:38
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:22:24
Quote from: appleonama on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:42:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:35:23
Because it dissolves away too many nutrients..

Just drink the damn water. ..

sheesh..

So simple, problem solved
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_089_02.gif)

I actually do this. I use it to make shakes no joke..... :-X just some fruit and that water problem solved

which fruits are u boiling.

I blend the fruits with boiled water(cooled down obviously). Hispanics do weird **** I am part of that.

They got something like that over here.

THey take "olives" and do the thing you do.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: bazh on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:41:47: Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:10:36
Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 29 January 2016, 13:57:43
Why not just steam it? They retain most of their crispness and cook as if boiled, all without absorbing absurd amounts of water and leaking nutrients.
Honestly, who boils their veggies anymore, this is the 21st century.
People who don't have counter space/money for a steamer. Or who just find it easier to throw veg in a pan with water.

Or you can just have this in the very same pan with water underneath, take no extra space and cost very cheap and you end up with a steam pan

(http://media.bizwebmedia.net/Sites/20878/Data/images/N%E1%BB%93i%20h%E1%BA%A5p%20Steam%20Cooker%203%20%C4%91%C3%A1y%2020cm%20-6.JPG)
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:18:22: Quote from: bazh on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:41:47
Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:10:36
Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 29 January 2016, 13:57:43
Why not just steam it? They retain most of their crispness and cook as if boiled, all without absorbing absurd amounts of water and leaking nutrients.
Honestly, who boils their veggies anymore, this is the 21st century.
People who don't have counter space/money for a steamer. Or who just find it easier to throw veg in a pan with water.

Or you can just have this in the very same pan with water underneath, take no extra space and cost very cheap and you end up with a steam pan

Show Image
(http://media.bizwebmedia.net/Sites/20878/Data/images/N%E1%BB%93i%20h%E1%BA%A5p%20Steam%20Cooker%203%20%C4%91%C3%A1y%2020cm%20-6.JPG)

Yup. No excuse not to steam. Inlay steamers are like $2-3 and most pots come with one anyway.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: madhias on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:25:50: Boiling veggies is better than not cooking at all!
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:29:08: This is why you fry them.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:36:27: Quote from: madhias on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:25:50
Boiling veggies is better than not cooking at all!

Not true. Eating them raw is by far the healthiest way to consume vegetables.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: madhias on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:52:52: Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:36:27
Quote from: madhias on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:25:50
Boiling veggies is better than not cooking at all!

Not true. Eating them raw is by far the healthiest way to consume vegetables.

That's absolutely true! But I do think spending some time with things you eat is good for you. Keeps body and soul together. So I would say a boiled carrot with some other things - not all boiled to death - and cooked with love is better than the raw carrot in the subway running to a date.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 15:40:19: Either steam or blanch them.
Crunchy vegs are quite nice to munch on esp broccoli. :D
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: jacobolus on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:40:25: I wouldn’t recommend raw potatoes, cassava, taro, etc., beans, eggplants, many types of squash, some tougher sorts of leafy greens. People with thyroid problems should cook veggies like broccoli and cabbage.

More generally, cooked vegetables are fine. In many cases cooking increases bioavailability of certain nutrients.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:59:42: Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 30 January 2016, 14:29:08
This is why you fry them.
i only like fried asparagus tbh
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 17:49:04: Quote from: jacobolus on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:40:25
I wouldn’t recommend raw potatoes, cassava, taro, etc., beans, eggplants, many types of squash, some tougher sorts of leafy greens. People with thyroid problems should cook veggies like broccoli and cabbage.

More generally, cooked vegetables are fine. In many cases cooking increases bioavailability of certain nutrients.

Of course. Baking them seems fine too is you're not into raw stuffs.
My mom likes to juice kale but I'm not a fan at all. :confused:
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:46:58: Quote from: pichu23 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 17:49:04

My mom likes to juice kale but I'm not a fan at all.

Juicing is totally great, especially if the pulp is included. Even if you don't like the taste, swallow fast and brush your teeth.
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:08:45: Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:46:58
Quote from: pichu23 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 17:49:04

My mom likes to juice kale but I'm not a fan at all.

Juicing is totally great, especially if the pulp is included. Even if you don't like the taste, swallow fast and brush your teeth.

I had a sugar cane juice yesterday.. it's just sugar cane, put through a juicer..

Oh man, super delicious.. But I think I had diabetus for about 2 hours after I drank it..
Title: Re: They say don't boil veggies in water.
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:30:38: Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:46:58
Quote from: pichu23 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 17:49:04

My mom likes to juice kale but I'm not a fan at all.

Juicing is totally great, especially if the pulp is included. Even if you don't like the taste, swallow fast and brush your teeth.

Yup. She bought a juicer and I think it was well worth it.
She knows I only like Apple/Orange (good combination btw) ;D but fruit itself is high in sugar content, so she adds a few small stalks of veg when she juices for me. :D