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Title: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:43:47
Well, I'm coming to a point in my life where I have to actually make decisions on important aspects of my life, and I'll be moving out in a relatively short period of time, and I'm thinking to my self; Where in the hell do I want to live?



I dislike the south very much, I lived here for a large portion of my life and do not want to return, haven't been to the north east or much of the east cost, really.

I lived in Oregon for a while, but I'm wondering, what are some other nice places to live? I want to be somewhat close to a large city at the very least.

I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area.

I like the cold, so I have no problem with that, fine with rain, pretty much dandy with what most find depressing.  :p


Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say. 

Any thoughts or input to help out someone who is rather clueless? I just really want to try somewhere new
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:47:05
Best place I have ever lived is San Diego.  It checks most of you boxes other than being affordable. 

If you can swing it, I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:47:11
Where are you living right now? Oregon?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:51:00
Where are you living right now? Oregon?
Mississippi, another one of my family's "Let's drive 3500 miles and move here" plans.


Once I finish high school and have saved up enough to able to afford a move and have some cash to fall back on, I'm moving.
Title: Nice places to live?
Post by: jbondeson on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:54:15
Denver and Boulder Colorado have great software development opportunities, is a hellova lot more affordable than either coast, and has great outdoor activities. The only issue is the rental market is very hot right now with a number of people moving here.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:54:41
nowhere in canada dont look here
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:55:04
Got it. I wish I lived in more places. I've traveled a lot but only lived in Vermont, Connecticut, New York (NYC, Albany, Rochester, Buffalo), New Jersey, and Ohio.

I really miss the Northeast and I think that's always a fun experience for someone to have. NYC is a bit pricey but the nearby PA areas are nice and northern NJ isn't bad. Connecticut was kinda like NJ for me.

I want to move back to the Northeast or Seattle or the Bay Area. I'm kinda rambling though.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:55:12
in the us ?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Signature on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:55:39
Denver and Boulder Colorado have great software development opportunities, is a hellova lot more affordable than either coast, and has great outdoor activities. The only issue is the rental market is very hot right now with a number of people moving here.
do not trust
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:56:42
in the us ?

That's a good point. Are you limiting yourself just to the USA? I just assumed that.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: demik on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:56:45
where they have legal weed


or norway
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:57:01
You say you don't like the south, but want tech.  The main places to go outside of the South are SF (expensive as ****, pretentious, white people liberal) or Seattle, WA (expensive, gloomy, snobby, pretentious, white people liberal).  I wouldn't recommend either.  I lived in Seattle for years and it was awful.

Sine classify it as the South, others don't, but Austin, Texas is a great place for tech. It's cheap, has nice people, there's lots to do, and it has a growing tech sector.  Utah also has a growing tech sector in SLC and Provo if you can get over being in Mormonville.

I'd avoid Oregon.  Not a ton of tech jobs there abd I don't think that will change soon.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jbondeson on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:57:50

Denver and Boulder Colorado have great software development opportunities, is a hellova lot more affordable than either coast, and has great outdoor activities. The only issue is the rental market is very hot right now with a number of people moving here.
do not trust

 :<
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Signature on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:59:48

Denver and Boulder Colorado have great software development opportunities, is a hellova lot more affordable than either coast, and has great outdoor activities. The only issue is the rental market is very hot right now with a number of people moving here.
do not trust

 :<
:-*
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:18:47
in the us ?

That's a good point. Are you limiting yourself just to the USA? I just assumed that.
I was thinking US for starters, but I've been thinking for a while about moving to denmark, or sweden.

I'm just cautious about moving so far and learning the language  and starting out, getting citizenship, etc... But it's still something I'm open to.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:22:23
Air Tree confirmed future BSP go between.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:28:48
removed.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Signature on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:30:11
in the us ?

That's a good point. Are you limiting yourself just to the USA? I just assumed that.
I was thinking US for starters, but I've been thinking for a while about moving to denmark, or sweden.

I'm just cautious about moving so far and learning the language  and starting out, getting citizenship, etc... But it's still something I'm open to.
Citizenship in Sweden is no probs lol
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Tym on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:32:57
Not here....  Baldgye and firebrand can back me up we're full. But not Photeqk, he's a dirty liberal >:D
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: byker on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:33:26
nowhere in canada dont look here

Vancouver is great, but expensive af. We do have amazing outdoors opportunities here, I would miss it too much if I left.  :'( Probably too pricey and out of the way for you though AT.

Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:33:44
removed.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: xondat on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:35:46
Not here....  Baldgye and firebrand can back me up we're full. But not Photeqk, he's a dirty liberal >:D

Yeah come live in the UK. It's ****ing top.

JK. **** it.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:37:19
nowhere in canada dont look here

Vancouver is great, but expensive af. We do have amazing outdoors opportunities here, I would miss it too much if I left.  :'( Probably too pricey and out of the way for you though AT.

I love Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver. But if I had to pick just one, Montreal all the way.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: romevi on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:40:42
Northshore Chicago. Although expensive, and the northshore moms can be annoying. It's beautiful, though.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:43:02
nowhere in canada dont look here

Vancouver is great, but expensive af. We do have amazing outdoors opportunities here, I would miss it too much if I left.  :'( Probably too pricey and out of the way for you though AT.

I love Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver. But if I had to pick just one, Montreal all the way.


this man knows
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:44:39
France is a nice place to live in, various stuff to explore.
You have to deal with ****ty people ruling the country tho.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jbondeson on Sat, 30 January 2016, 18:53:56

France is a nice place to live in, various stuff to explore.
You have to deal with ****ty people ruling the country tho.

Being perpetually dissatisfied with our gov't is a national pastime so I don't think he'll have an issue there!
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:05:53
New Jersey.. (http://textemoticons.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/073.gif)


The bad rep, is actually just a joke..  everyone loves it here.. it's a great place to live..

Kinda like when people say yea, pizza is horrible,  because it's obviously So super good.



THe truth is,  how you live is more dependent on Income than "location".    bceause even in a small state like New Jersey,  there are lots and lots of variety of spaces.

If you go to the docks,  it's a mess,  durgs, gangs, $50 rents

If you go to say westfield, tiny house is 700k, great public school, clean quiet streets,


So.. yea.. that's my pitch for New Jersey.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:19:06
STRAYA. We don't have fast internet, but we got a diverse range of cultures with some pretty cool people. We need some more Geekhacking brethren. :D
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:21:27
STRAYA. We don't have fast internet, but we got a diverse range of cultures with some pretty cool people. We need some more Geekhacking brethren. :D

I would move to Melbourne so ****ing fast if I knew I could find a job. I'll trade my fast internet for the chill vibes and good food.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: byker on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:23:15
nowhere in canada dont look here

Vancouver is great, but expensive af. We do have amazing outdoors opportunities here, I would miss it too much if I left.  :'( Probably too pricey and out of the way for you though AT.

I love Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver. But if I had to pick just one, Montreal all the way.

Sad to say I have yet to visit Montreal. It is definitely on my list though!  :)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jbondeson on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:28:34


The bad rep, is actually just a joke..  everyone loves it here.. it's a great place to live..

I've spent quite a bit of time in Jersey (and the nice part near Princeton) and you couldn't pay me enough to live there.

The people, oooohhh the people.

Don't get me wrong there are quite a few good people there, but they're out numbered by "the rest."
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: 27 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:45:04
I'm going to college in Ottawa, but hate the cold... I think I made a poor choice.  Still following through with it, and getting out of London in the most cost effective way.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:57:07


The bad rep, is actually just a joke..  everyone loves it here.. it's a great place to live..

I've spent quite a bit of time in Jersey (and the nice part near Princeton) and you couldn't pay me enough to live there.

The people, oooohhh the people.

Don't get me wrong there are quite a few good people there, but they're out numbered by "the rest."

??

what's wrong with the people..

I guess because I r so #ronery, i hadn't noticed..
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: mobbo on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:59:12
nowhere in canada dont look here

Vancouver is great, but expensive af. We do have amazing outdoors opportunities here, I would miss it too much if I left.  :'( Probably too pricey and out of the way for you though AT.

I love Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver. But if I had to pick just one, Montreal all the way.

My man.

Montreal is a great city. I spent four years there.

Toronto not so much. Fun to visit but I would not want to live there.

Victoria is way nicer and a little more affordable than Vancouver.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: byker on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:04:50

Victoria is way nicer and a little more affordable than Vancouver.

I guess it kinda depends on what you want. I think its quite debatable. I have lived in both and prefer Vancouver a whole lot more! :)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jacobolus on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:32:52
[...] I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area. [...] Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say.
What software skills do you have now? Do you have a CS or similar degree? If you have existing programming experience, many companies in the SF Bay Area are still on a hiring binge, and it’s by far the biggest market for programming jobs. Housing costs are ridiculous, but salaries for junior programmers are also often ridiculous by the standards of other parts of the country.

If you’re trying to make a career in software, I recommend going somewhere with a large variety of software jobs to choose (doesn’t have to be the Bay Area; there are lots of software jobs near NYC, Boston, Seattle, Austin, Portland, Chicago, ...). I know several people who moved to cheap-and-nice-to-live places who then got stuck in corporate jobs doing work they hated in a career dead-end, and then couldn’t find much else nearby to switch to.

Edit: whoops, I missed this bit:
Quote
Once I finish high school and have saved up enough
I’d recommend either diving seriously into teaching yourself to code and working on your own projects, or going to college (or both). If you have neither experience nor a degree it could be hard to get your foot in the door.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: mobbo on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:35:55

Victoria is way nicer and a little more affordable than Vancouver.

I guess it kinda depends on what you want. I think its quite debatable. I have lived in both and prefer Vancouver a whole lot more! :)

Haha yeah definitely something of personal preference. Vancouver would be more exciting for sure.

I'm a Maritimer so honestly the prospect of living anywhere on the west coast is pretty appealing.  :p
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: fanpeople on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:38:16
Good to see someone willing to move away from their original area. I have lots of friends who still reside in my home area and just refuse to try something different. I moved interstate a few months after turning 18 and think it was the best thing I ever did. I think if I was to do life again, I would have saved up and tried to live in a different country straight up. But it seems a big part of your intended move is to establish a career so international may not be the best.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:38:57
You just come find me when you grow up and I'll take care of you bb
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:46:46
[...] I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area. [...] Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say.
What software skills do you have now? Do you have a CS or similar degree? If you have existing programming experience, many companies in the SF Bay Area are still on a hiring binge, and it’s by far the biggest market for programming jobs. Housing costs are ridiculous, but salaries for junior programmers are also often ridiculous by the standards of other parts of the country.

If you’re trying to make a career in software, I recommend going somewhere with a large variety of software jobs to choose (doesn’t have to be the Bay Area; there are lots of software jobs near NYC, Boston, Seattle, Austin, Portland, Chicago, ...). I know several people who moved to cheap-and-nice-to-live places who then got stuck in corporate jobs doing work they hated in a career dead-end, and then couldn’t find much else nearby to switch to.

Edit: whoops, I missed this bit:
Quote
Once I finish high school and have saved up enough
I’d recommend either diving seriously into teaching yourself to code and working on your own projects, or going to college (or both). If you have neither experience nor a degree it could be hard to get your foot in the door.
I only added that because I'm planning on going to college and I'm going to be delving into teaching my self code and working on projects now.

I don't expect to land any jobs without any experience or degrees behind me.

Just somewhere with a jobs market that could suit me in the long run, maybe I'll move when I start actively looking for that sort of job once I have the credentials, who knows.


You just come find me when you grow up and I'll take care of you bb
You gonna be my sugar daddy then? :))
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:47:24
Double post, oops.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:51:16

[...] I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area. [...] Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say.
What software skills do you have now? Do you have a CS or similar degree? If you have existing programming experience, many companies in the SF Bay Area are still on a hiring binge, and it’s by far the biggest market for programming jobs. Housing costs are ridiculous, but salaries for junior programmers are also often ridiculous by the standards of other parts of the country.

If you’re trying to make a career in software, I recommend going somewhere with a large variety of software jobs to choose (doesn’t have to be the Bay Area; there are lots of software jobs near NYC, Boston, Seattle, Austin, Portland, Chicago, ...). I know several people who moved to cheap-and-nice-to-live places who then got stuck in corporate jobs doing work they hated in a career dead-end, and then couldn’t find much else nearby to switch to.

Edit: whoops, I missed this bit:
Quote
Once I finish high school and have saved up enough
I’d recommend either diving seriously into teaching yourself to code and working on your own projects, or going to college (or both). If you have neither experience nor a degree it could be hard to get your foot in the door.
I only added that because I'm planning on going to college and I'm going to be delving into teaching my self code and working on projects now.

I don't expect to land any jobs without any experience or degrees behind me.

Just somewhere with a jobs market that could suit me in the long run, maybe I'll move when I start actively looking for that sort of job once I have the credentials, who knows.


You just come find me when you grow up and I'll take care of you bb
You gonna be my sugar daddy then? :))

You gonna need to be a real person, but I can show you a few things, bring you on road trips, put bandages on your wounds, etc
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: demik on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:54:10

[...] I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area. [...] Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say.
What software skills do you have now? Do you have a CS or similar degree? If you have existing programming experience, many companies in the SF Bay Area are still on a hiring binge, and it’s by far the biggest market for programming jobs. Housing costs are ridiculous, but salaries for junior programmers are also often ridiculous by the standards of other parts of the country.

If you’re trying to make a career in software, I recommend going somewhere with a large variety of software jobs to choose (doesn’t have to be the Bay Area; there are lots of software jobs near NYC, Boston, Seattle, Austin, Portland, Chicago, ...). I know several people who moved to cheap-and-nice-to-live places who then got stuck in corporate jobs doing work they hated in a career dead-end, and then couldn’t find much else nearby to switch to.

Edit: whoops, I missed this bit:
Quote
Once I finish high school and have saved up enough
I’d recommend either diving seriously into teaching yourself to code and working on your own projects, or going to college (or both). If you have neither experience nor a degree it could be hard to get your foot in the door.
I only added that because I'm planning on going to college and I'm going to be delving into teaching my self code and working on projects now.

I don't expect to land any jobs without any experience or degrees behind me.

Just somewhere with a jobs market that could suit me in the long run, maybe I'll move when I start actively looking for that sort of job once I have the credentials, who knows.


You just come find me when you grow up and I'll take care of you bb
You gonna be my sugar daddy then? :))

You gonna need to be a real person, but I can show you a few things, bring you on road trips, put bandages on your wounds, etc
You're looking for an American sifo?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:09:26
I've lived in NYC, working as a software developer, for the last 3 years or so. Once the lady graduates from school, we'll very likely be moving to Austin for the reasons nubbinator listed.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:12:57
I would move to Melbourne so ****ing fast if I knew I could find a job. I'll trade my fast internet for the chill vibes and good food.


Dudeeeee, do it!! What industry do you work in?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:13:09


[...] I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area. [...] Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say.
What software skills do you have now? Do you have a CS or similar degree? If you have existing programming experience, many companies in the SF Bay Area are still on a hiring binge, and it’s by far the biggest market for programming jobs. Housing costs are ridiculous, but salaries for junior programmers are also often ridiculous by the standards of other parts of the country.

If you’re trying to make a career in software, I recommend going somewhere with a large variety of software jobs to choose (doesn’t have to be the Bay Area; there are lots of software jobs near NYC, Boston, Seattle, Austin, Portland, Chicago, ...). I know several people who moved to cheap-and-nice-to-live places who then got stuck in corporate jobs doing work they hated in a career dead-end, and then couldn’t find much else nearby to switch to.

Edit: whoops, I missed this bit:
Quote
Once I finish high school and have saved up enough
I’d recommend either diving seriously into teaching yourself to code and working on your own projects, or going to college (or both). If you have neither experience nor a degree it could be hard to get your foot in the door.
I only added that because I'm planning on going to college and I'm going to be delving into teaching my self code and working on projects now.

I don't expect to land any jobs without any experience or degrees behind me.

Just somewhere with a jobs market that could suit me in the long run, maybe I'll move when I start actively looking for that sort of job once I have the credentials, who knows.


You just come find me when you grow up and I'll take care of you bb
You gonna be my sugar daddy then? :))

You gonna need to be a real person, but I can show you a few things, bring you on road trips, put bandages on your wounds, etc
You're looking for an American sifo?

I guess so!
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Dongulator on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:17:38
Seattle, WA (expensive, gloomy, snobby, pretentious, white people liberal).

Your forgetting about the traffic,homeless,drugs*legal weed :)
Currently living in Seattle from Minneapolis and loving it. But it has it's fair share of problems.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Yoe on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:51:27
SWEDEN
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: demik on Sat, 30 January 2016, 22:08:40
dont come to cali. this place sucks ass. too much traffic and we barely have enough water.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 22:46:09
I don't know anything about how much tech there is in NoVA (most people in places like Arlington work some sort of government job or lobby), but just with regards to living it's a great place. Right now, I live totally in the country where people have a few acres each and nice views everywhere, housing is pretty cheap as long as you live outside the city, but I'm still within 45 minutes of most major cities here, and an hour from DC. Weather is pretty fair, doesn't drop below 20 or above 95 all that often.

edit: ok now that I actually look into it, it looks like there's at least something here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulles_Technology_Corridor)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 31 January 2016, 16:12:55
If you're open to the medical tech market, Minneapolis might be something to consider that I haven't heard mentioned yet.  Great city, and loads to do (like visit Wisconsin, hehe).

Chicago is a pretty easy recommendation if you can deal with the government, taxes, and sheer quantity of people.

Austin was mentioned, and while I don't know a ton about the job industry there, from my few visits I really like Austin and would love to live there some day.  Same with Colorado.

All that said, I haven't lived outside of WI/MN myself, so my experiences are limited to my travels and feedback from friends.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Pdub on Sun, 31 January 2016, 16:43:31
Northshore Chicago. Although expensive, and the northshore moms can be annoying. It's beautiful, though.

Any of them at least hot?  ;)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: bcredbottle on Sun, 31 January 2016, 16:45:45
What do people think of North Carolina? Specifically research triangle and Charlotte? I know some people who are checking it out.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Leslieann on Sun, 31 January 2016, 17:04:58
I've lived in two counties, 8 states, and more than 20 cities. I've traveled through almost 40 states, some enough to know my way around pretty decent.

EVERY place has up sides and downs. Crowded/crime, lack of water, too much water, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes. Other states, too much snow/ice or too freaking cold or worse...  I can manage almost anywhere, I've done mountains, beach, deserts, plains, urban, suburb, rural, and honestly, the local population is the biggest thing that would keep me from living somewhere. Cost of living and crime sucks but both are manageable and tolerable, there are things to do everywhere if you are creative. What cannot be replaced or dealt with is the local people, there are sections of this country I hate to even travel through and no way would I live there. Some sections of this country have yet to evolve out of caveman status, granted some areas within them are tolerable, but that's only marginally better.


Good to see someone willing to move away from their original area. I have lots of friends who still reside in my home area and just refuse to try something different.
I had neighbors who had never gone 30 miles from home, they were in their 70's.
They had never been to a city with more than 50k people and avoided any with even 20k. I actually have quite a few customers like this, and it's evident within the first 5 minutes of meeting them that they have never left the area. These people have such a narrow view of the world, it's amazing.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 31 January 2016, 17:08:20

I've lived in two counties, 8 states, and more than 20 cities. I've traveled through almost 40 states, some enough to know my way around pretty decent.

EVERY place has up sides and downs. Crowded/crime, lack of water, too much water, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes. Other states, too much snow/ice or too freaking cold or worse...  I can manage almost anywhere, I've done mountains, beach, deserts, plains, urban, suburb, rural, and honestly, the local population is the biggest thing that would keep me from living somewhere. Cost of living and crime sucks but both are manageable and tolerable, there are things to do everywhere if you are creative. What cannot be replaced or dealt with is the local people, there are sections of this country I hate to even travel through and no way would I live there. Some sections of this country have yet to evolve out of caveman status, granted some areas within them are tolerable, but that's only marginally better.


Good to see someone willing to move away from their original area. I have lots of friends who still reside in my home area and just refuse to try something different.
I had neighbors who had never gone 30 miles from home, they were in their 70's.
They had never been to a city with more than 50k people and avoided any with even 20k. I actually have quite a few customers like this, and it's evident within the first 5 minutes of meeting them that they have never left the area. These people have such a narrow view of the world, it's amazing.

Very well put!
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Sun, 31 January 2016, 17:09:45
New Jersey..
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(http://textemoticons.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/073.gif)



The bad rep, is actually just a joke..  everyone loves it here.. it's a great place to live..

Kinda like when people say yea, pizza is horrible,  because it's obviously So super good.



THe truth is,  how you live is more dependent on Income than "location".    bceause even in a small state like New Jersey,  there are lots and lots of variety of spaces.

If you go to the docks,  it's a mess,  durgs, gangs, $50 rents

If you go to say westfield, tiny house is 700k, great public school, clean quiet streets,


So.. yea.. that's my pitch for New Jersey.

New jersey is crazy varied. You can drive an hour and see the tallest buildings around, nice suburbs, ****ty industrial areas, small towns and farmland.

I personally love living in jersey city. Nice small city vibe, great food and bars, low rent, and I can still go to NYC all the time to see literally everything. Shows, museums, outdoor events, parades, everything is in NYC.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jaffers on Sun, 31 January 2016, 17:14:09
Come to Australia

-Its hot
-It never rains
-We have worse than 3rd world internet
-Anyone who knows how to use more than facebook on a computer is classified as a hacker and is constantly watched by the government
-The government is Armish
-Its really ****ing hot
-Its a 10 day drive and 2 week walk across the dessert to the nearest city
-The Australian dollar is 900Aud = 1USD so imports are great
-You can get killed by all sorts of native wildlife
-Everyone dies of skin cancer cause its really really ****ing hot
-Once you come here you never leave because you will be marked as a terrorist and put on a no fly list.
-If Hitler was smart he would have used Australia rather than wasting money powering his own ovens
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 31 January 2016, 17:32:24
Well, I'm coming to a point in my life where I have to actually make decisions on important aspects of my life, and I'll be moving out in a relatively short period of time, and I'm thinking to my self; Where in the hell do I want to live?



I dislike the south very much, I lived here for a large portion of my life and do not want to return, haven't been to the north east or much of the east cost, really.

I lived in Oregon for a while, but I'm wondering, what are some other nice places to live? I want to be somewhat close to a large city at the very least.

I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area.

I like the cold, so I have no problem with that, fine with rain, pretty much dandy with what most find depressing.  :p


Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say. 

Any thoughts or input to help out someone who is rather clueless? I just really want to try somewhere new

With Florida you can mingle with tons of people from all areas of the globe.  A lot of my roommates of the past were from true southern states and they love(d) it here.  People seem to stare quite often.  If you're OK with people staring, storms, and mosquitoes I suppose Florida is OK.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Wilkie on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:44:15
Once I finish high school and have saved up enough to able to afford a move and have some cash to fall back on, I'm moving.

If you're still in high school and want a job in tech, consider where you might go for additional education.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 10:53:54
I would move to Melbourne so ****ing fast if I knew I could find a job. I'll trade my fast internet for the chill vibes and good food.
Dudeeeee, do it!! What industry do you work in?

Aerospace. I'm a manufacturing engineer. Used to be a mechanical design engineer.

You're looking for an American sifo?

You called?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 01 February 2016, 11:02:08
Well, I'm coming to a point in my life where I have to actually make decisions on important aspects of my life, and I'll be moving out in a relatively short period of time, and I'm thinking to my self; Where in the hell do I want to live?



I dislike the south very much, I lived here for a large portion of my life and do not want to return, haven't been to the north east or much of the east cost, really.

I lived in Oregon for a while, but I'm wondering, what are some other nice places to live? I want to be somewhat close to a large city at the very least.

I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area.

I like the cold, so I have no problem with that, fine with rain, pretty much dandy with what most find depressing.  :p


Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say. 

Any thoughts or input to help out someone who is rather clueless? I just really want to try somewhere new

With Florida you can mingle with tons of people from all areas of the globe.  A lot of my roommates of the past were from true southern states and they love(d) it here.  People seem to stare quite often.  If you're OK with people staring, storms, and mosquitoes I suppose Florida is OK.

also, i heard they shoot the pr0no in the Florida now.. so.. well.. there's that.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: 27 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:38:58
Time for me to make a choice. Hijacking this thread a lil' bit, but I got accepted to the four colleges I applied to.  I have 3 cities to choose from, London (where I am now), Toronto, or Ottawa.  Anyone have some advice?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:45:14
Well, I'm coming to a point in my life where I have to actually make decisions on important aspects of my life, and I'll be moving out in a relatively short period of time, and I'm thinking to my self; Where in the hell do I want to live?



I dislike the south very much, I lived here for a large portion of my life and do not want to return, haven't been to the north east or much of the east cost, really.

I lived in Oregon for a while, but I'm wondering, what are some other nice places to live? I want to be somewhat close to a large city at the very least.

I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area.

I like the cold, so I have no problem with that, fine with rain, pretty much dandy with what most find depressing.  :p


Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say. 

Any thoughts or input to help out someone who is rather clueless? I just really want to try somewhere new

With Florida you can mingle with tons of people from all areas of the globe.  A lot of my roommates of the past were from true southern states and they love(d) it here.  People seem to stare quite often.  If you're OK with people staring, storms, and mosquitoes I suppose Florida is OK.

also, i heard they shoot the pr0no in the Florida now.. so.. well.. there's that.

Pornos? What on earth are they saying about my state?  :-X

Also, I've never caught people staring at me. I'm not sure what to say about storms. We are the sunshine state for a reason.  :))

Mosquitoes aren't that bad unless you're out in the Everglades or by any other bodies of water. Worse comes to worst, mosquito repellent.

Depending on where you are you will have to worry about humidity. A lot of people can't tolerate that, or the heat during the summer. I like both these things.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 01 February 2016, 15:04:24
Well, I'm coming to a point in my life where I have to actually make decisions on important aspects of my life, and I'll be moving out in a relatively short period of time, and I'm thinking to my self; Where in the hell do I want to live?



I dislike the south very much, I lived here for a large portion of my life and do not want to return, haven't been to the north east or much of the east cost, really.

I lived in Oregon for a while, but I'm wondering, what are some other nice places to live? I want to be somewhat close to a large city at the very least.

I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area.

I like the cold, so I have no problem with that, fine with rain, pretty much dandy with what most find depressing.  :p


Any thoughts on places that don't have insane costs of living but are nice places? I'm leaning towards the northeast as I haven't been there and it would be a breath of fresh air, per-say. 

Any thoughts or input to help out someone who is rather clueless? I just really want to try somewhere new

With Florida you can mingle with tons of people from all areas of the globe.  A lot of my roommates of the past were from true southern states and they love(d) it here.  People seem to stare quite often.  If you're OK with people staring, storms, and mosquitoes I suppose Florida is OK.

also, i heard they shoot the pr0no in the Florida now.. so.. well.. there's that.

Pornos? What on earth are they saying about my state?  :-X

Also, I've never caught people staring at me. I'm not sure what to say about storms. We are the sunshine state for a reason.  :))

Mosquitoes aren't that bad unless you're out in the Everglades or by any other bodies of water. Worse comes to worst, mosquito repellent.

Depending on where you are you will have to worry about humidity. A lot of people can't tolerate that, or the heat during the summer. I like both these things.

I can attest for Mosquitoes in Central Florida and I guess your staring mileage may vary :p I visited Miami once for some off the wall nightclub and the humidity was papable  :))
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 01 February 2016, 16:32:38
Aerospace. I'm a manufacturing engineer. Used to be a mechanical design engineer.


OH damn dude, noice!! After a quick search they're plenty of Aerospace jobs with big monie salaries after a quick search. Join us. We need more Melbourne Geekhackers  ;)

Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 01 February 2016, 17:09:13

Time for me to make a choice. Hijacking this thread a lil' bit, but I got accepted to the four colleges I applied to.  I have 3 cities to choose from, London (where I am now), Toronto, or Ottawa.  Anyone have some advice?

Never been to London myself. Toronto isn't my cup of tea but it has tons of stuff. I love Ottawa, I've lived there for a few years. Big city with a small city feel. It's also super close to Montreal for fun trips.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 01 February 2016, 17:49:15
Here's the thing about people staring..  You can't tell if you're either good looking or ugly.. cuz  both could induce staring and non-staring..


Gotta post fotos on the internet so you can be sure..



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Better hurry, Geekhack has so many females, Tp4 has alot of fotos to get through.. PM yours Today.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: iri on Thu, 04 February 2016, 05:59:04
in the us ?

That's a good point. Are you limiting yourself just to the USA? I just assumed that.
I was thinking US for starters, but I've been thinking for a while about moving to denmark, or sweden.
Why are you even considering denmark, silly? Do you want to live in a country full of danskjaveln? No.

Your solution:
-------> SWEDEN
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 10:11:23
removed.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Pdub on Fri, 05 February 2016, 06:22:43
Come to Australia

-Its hot
-It never rains
-We have worse than 3rd world internet
-Anyone who knows how to use more than facebook on a computer is classified as a hacker and is constantly watched by the government
-The government is Armish
-Its really ****ing hot
-Its a 10 day drive and 2 week walk across the dessert to the nearest city
-The Australian dollar is 900Aud = 1USD so imports are great
-You can get killed by all sorts of native wildlife
-Everyone dies of skin cancer cause its really really ****ing hot
-Once you come here you never leave because you will be marked as a terrorist and put on a no fly list.
-If Hitler was smart he would have used Australia rather than wasting money powering his own ovens

cold there huh?

SO I should not visit Australia then?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jaffers on Fri, 05 February 2016, 06:28:23
Come to Australia

-Its hot
-It never rains
-We have worse than 3rd world internet
-Anyone who knows how to use more than facebook on a computer is classified as a hacker and is constantly watched by the government
-The government is Armish
-Its really ****ing hot
-Its a 10 day drive and 2 week walk across the dessert to the nearest city
-The Australian dollar is 900Aud = 1USD so imports are great
-You can get killed by all sorts of native wildlife
-Everyone dies of skin cancer cause its really really ****ing hot
-Once you come here you never leave because you will be marked as a terrorist and put on a no fly list.
-If Hitler was smart he would have used Australia rather than wasting money powering his own ovens

cold there huh?

Today it was raining. I was inside, and I was sweating. WHY
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Fri, 05 February 2016, 06:36:50
Come to Australia

-Its hot
-It never rains
-We have worse than 3rd world internet
-Anyone who knows how to use more than facebook on a computer is classified as a hacker and is constantly watched by the government
-The government is Armish
-Its really ****ing hot
-Its a 10 day drive and 2 week walk across the dessert to the nearest city
-The Australian dollar is 900Aud = 1USD so imports are great
-You can get killed by all sorts of native wildlife
-Everyone dies of skin cancer cause its really really ****ing hot
-Once you come here you never leave because you will be marked as a terrorist and put on a no fly list.
-If Hitler was smart he would have used Australia rather than wasting money powering his own ovens
google is coming in to help australias internet soon
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 05 February 2016, 16:42:15
I've lived a considerable duration (3 years+) in 5 countries now, and so far I like Johannesburg the best. It's somewhere I could look to settle down. The environment and weather is always just perfect.

I really liked Singapore too.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: KingRama on Fri, 05 February 2016, 17:20:17
Come to Australia

-Its hot
-It never rains
-We have worse than 3rd world internet
-Anyone who knows how to use more than facebook on a computer is classified as a hacker and is constantly watched by the government
-The government is Armish
-Its really ****ing hot
-Its a 10 day drive and 2 week walk across the dessert to the nearest city
-The Australian dollar is 900Aud = 1USD so imports are great
-You can get killed by all sorts of native wildlife
-Everyone dies of skin cancer cause its really really ****ing hot
-Once you come here you never leave because you will be marked as a terrorist and put on a no fly list.
-If Hitler was smart he would have used Australia rather than wasting money powering his own ovens
google is coming in to help australias internet soon


Wait, really??
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 05 February 2016, 18:03:11
SpaceX will have a rural area internet package as well. I'm not so sure if they released all the info about it yet though
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:02:52
I want to visit Australia sometime.  Tips on cheap tickets and accomodations?

I've lived a considerable duration (3 years+) in 5 countries now, and so far I like Johannesburg the best. It's somewhere I could look to settle down. The environment and weather is always just perfect.

I really liked Singapore too.

Doesn't SA have a **** ton of crime though?  Not as bad as Sao Palo has been recently, but still bad.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:15:03
From my experience it's a little too exaggerated, granted coming from India, which isn't safe either, I might have a more lenient look on security.

Compared to Singapore, I can see the difference for sure, but then again Singapore City is one of the safest cities in the world.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:17:48
Compared to Singapore, I can see the difference for sure, but then again Singapore City is one of the safest cities in the world.

That's what happens when all crimes are punishable by death though.


(yes, I know I'm exaggerating...a little)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jaffers on Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:27:55
Come to Australia

-Its hot
-It never rains
-We have worse than 3rd world internet
-Anyone who knows how to use more than facebook on a computer is classified as a hacker and is constantly watched by the government
-The government is Armish
-Its really ****ing hot
-Its a 10 day drive and 2 week walk across the dessert to the nearest city
-The Australian dollar is 900Aud = 1USD so imports are great
-You can get killed by all sorts of native wildlife
-Everyone dies of skin cancer cause its really really ****ing hot
-Once you come here you never leave because you will be marked as a terrorist and put on a no fly list.
-If Hitler was smart he would have used Australia rather than wasting money powering his own ovens
google is coming in to help australias internet soon

U srs?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:30:27
More
Come to Australia

-Its hot
-It never rains
-We have worse than 3rd world internet
-Anyone who knows how to use more than facebook on a computer is classified as a hacker and is constantly watched by the government
-The government is Armish
-Its really ****ing hot
-Its a 10 day drive and 2 week walk across the dessert to the nearest city
-The Australian dollar is 900Aud = 1USD so imports are great
-You can get killed by all sorts of native wildlife
-Everyone dies of skin cancer cause its really really ****ing hot
-Once you come here you never leave because you will be marked as a terrorist and put on a no fly list.
-If Hitler was smart he would have used Australia rather than wasting money powering his own ovens
google is coming in to help australias internet soon

U srs?

I doubt it, though they are doing this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Loon
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jaffers on Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:34:30
I want to visit Australia sometime.  Tips on cheap tickets and accomodations?

Nothing is cheap here. There is a very good reason why I want to get the **** outta this country
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:43:41

I want to visit Australia sometime.  Tips on cheap tickets and accomodations?

Nothing is cheap here. There is a very good reason why I want to get the **** outta this country

Is your love expensive too?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:50:47

I want to visit Australia sometime.  Tips on cheap tickets and accomodations?

Nothing is cheap here. There is a very good reason why I want to get the **** outta this country

Is your love expensive too?
mine isn't
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:53:13


I want to visit Australia sometime.  Tips on cheap tickets and accomodations?

Nothing is cheap here. There is a very good reason why I want to get the **** outta this country

Is your love expensive too?
mine isn't


And when everyone's love is cheap, you know what that means.

Too much, too much love. There's too much, too much love.

Good song but really, never enough love.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jaffers on Sun, 07 February 2016, 08:16:32

I want to visit Australia sometime.  Tips on cheap tickets and accomodations?

Nothing is cheap here. There is a very good reason why I want to get the **** outta this country

Is your love expensive too?

It fluctuates with my current preference of beer
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 07 February 2016, 08:22:02
What I got from this thread


Moving to another country: Sweden, or Canada.

Domestic: Boston, Austin, Chicago, etc...


Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Sun, 07 February 2016, 09:34:36
What I got from this thread


Moving to another country: Sweden, or Canada.

Domestic: Boston, Austin, Chicago, etc...
go to sweden i suggest cause canada is just really boring, overall cooler since traveling to other countries afterwards in sweden is cheap as hell.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 07 February 2016, 16:48:42
Of all the places I have lived:
Boston is the most fun
Colorado is the most beautiful and has the coolest people
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: romevi on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:09:11
Of all the places I have lived:
Boston is the most fun
Colorado is the most beautiful and has the coolest people

I've heard good things about Boston, and my wife's area of study is booming there, so I've encouraged her to look for a job there, but I heard it's also crazy expensive.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jacobolus on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:26:43
Boston and the surrounding area (I mostly lived in Cambridge/Somerville) is a great city.

The weather though... too damn cold from November–April, and then a sticky sauna from June–September. May and October are really nice though.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Ephemeral on Thu, 11 February 2016, 15:20:21
I want to be somewhat close to a large city at the very least.

I'm looking to get into the technology field, software developer or something in that area.

Disclaimer: I'm a Computer Information Technology student.

I've been wrapping up my education here in Indianapolis, and in my capstone course a lot of Indianapolis related information was shared. What I've been told is that a lot of tech jobs are coming to Indianapolis, as several companies are in the process of setting up shop here. Now, I'm not saying 100% you should move here. Ive lived here my whole life, so i don't know much about the other states. But I would suggest keeping Indianapolis on your radar if what I've been told is true.

As for livability, its a good place to live. The cost of living has gone up a bit, but is still cheap compared to some other places in the country.

I like the cold, so I have no problem with that, fine with rain, pretty much dandy with what most find depressing.  :p

We have plenty of cold, plenty of rain, and overall bipolar weather. Especially this year. If you like surprises, you'll like our weather.  ;)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: munch on Sat, 13 February 2016, 19:31:21
What I got from this thread


Moving to another country: Sweden, or Canada.

Domestic: Boston, Austin, Chicago, etc...
go to sweden i suggest cause canada is just really boring, overall cooler since traveling to other countries afterwards in sweden is cheap as hell.

I wouldn't say cheap as hell... generally Europe is very expensive for hotels and such, you'd save a bit on airfare, but it'll never be cheap as hell. Plus Sweden is expensive compared to Canada, if looking at the big cities.
(I am from Sweden but live in Canada)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: smknjoe on Sat, 13 February 2016, 20:32:43
You say you don't like the south, but want tech.  The main places to go outside of the South are SF (expensive as ****, pretentious, white people liberal) or Seattle, WA (expensive, gloomy, snobby, pretentious, white people liberal).  I wouldn't recommend either.  I lived in Seattle for years and it was awful.

Sine classify it as the South, others don't, but Austin, Texas is a great place for tech. It's cheap, has nice people, there's lots to do, and it has a growing tech sector.  Utah also has a growing tech sector in SLC and Provo if you can get over being in Mormonville.

I'd avoid Oregon.  Not a ton of tech jobs there abd I don't think that will change soon.

This is pretty accurate. I will say that Austin, and Texas in general, is definitely not anything like the South (culturally)(I've lived in AL and TX.) If I were in high school and was serious about a career in programming I would not wait to take classes and just start learning on my own ASAP. It will help you when you do get into college and it will help in job interviews more than a degree will. A degree will help you land an interview, your talent/experience will land you the job.

...Austin has been up and coming star in the InfoTech world for sure. It's not as cheap as it used to be though...

One place that gets overlooked often is Huntsville, AL. There are lots of defense and aerospace (NASA) related jobs along with the supporting tech jobs. And you're within a few hours of Atlanta, Nashville, and really close to Chattanooga.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 13 February 2016, 21:09:57
Off the Original topic, but what is some good material to get started learning a language to be able to start out, and starting some sort of project? (Programming language)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 13 February 2016, 21:23:55
Time for me to make a choice. Hijacking this thread a lil' bit, but I got accepted to the four colleges I applied to.  I have 3 cities to choose from, London (where I am now), Toronto, or Ottawa.  Anyone have some advice?

Of the three, I only have significant experience with Toronto. It takes a certain kind of person to live there, and I'm not it. On the upside, there will always be something fun to do in Toronto, and you'll have access to a lot of good resources, both at school and in the community.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jacobolus on Sat, 13 February 2016, 23:34:12
what is some good material to get started learning a language to be able to start out, and starting some sort of project?
What kind of language? If you mean a programming language, what’s your current level of experience?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Sun, 14 February 2016, 00:36:31
what is some good material to get started learning a language to be able to start out, and starting some sort of project?
What kind of language? If you mean a programming language, what’s your current level of experience?
moving somewhere else and he might need to learn a language im sure lmao
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 14 February 2016, 09:38:08
what is some good material to get started learning a language to be able to start out, and starting some sort of project?
What kind of language? If you mean a programming language, what’s your current level of experience?
Not much at all. I'm pretty much at the beginner phase. And yeah, I mean programming language. Sorry for any confusion.  :))
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: user 18 on Sun, 14 February 2016, 10:10:56
what is some good material to get started learning a language to be able to start out, and starting some sort of project?
What kind of language? If you mean a programming language, what’s your current level of experience?
Not much at all. I'm pretty much at the beginner phase. And yeah, I mean programming language. Sorry for any confusion.  :))

It very much depends what language you are looking to learn.

If you already know how to program in some language, my advice would be to just start on something you want to do, but using a new language. To get the basics of that language's syntax, just google "C for beginners," or "Java for beginners" or whatever language you're using. In my experience, going from zero knowledge to getting the fundamentals is one of the hardest parts to grasp. A lot of languages have good documentation as well (man pages for C, javadocs for Java, etc.), once you understand them, know what they mean, and know how to use them. Programmer's stack exchange has been a useful resource for me as well.

If you have zero experience, my advice would be to start with a common language, like one of the ones I mentioned above. Oracle has a passable online tutorial for getting started with Java. I took a course at my University that taught me the basics of C.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 14 February 2016, 10:55:54
The first question is how do you plan on paying for these places that you plan to live.  Some of them are not exactly cheap.

Now if I buy a place in Indianapolis, you can live in my spare room, if you can pay the extremely cheap rent.  Although I no longer consider Indianapolis a nice place to live, after the traveling I've done in the past few years.   Well some neighborhoods are nice, but it all depends on what you consider nice.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Ephemeral on Sun, 14 February 2016, 11:10:32
The first question is how do you plan on paying for these places that you plan to live.  Some of them are not exactly cheap.

Now if I buy a place in Indianapolis, you can live in my spare room, if you can pay the extremely cheap rent.  Although I no longer consider Indianapolis a nice place to live, after the traveling I've done in the past few years.   Well some neighborhoods are nice, but it all depends on what you consider nice.

I will agree with this for the most part. I would say don't live downtown or on the east side. I live on the west side (Plainfield/Avon area) and its nice, imo. And there's also the political aspect, with the whole country looking at Pence and his RFRA bill, for example. But again, I'm sure there are plenty of better choices than here.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 14 February 2016, 11:29:20
The first question is how do you plan on paying for these places that you plan to live.  Some of them are not exactly cheap.

Now if I buy a place in Indianapolis, you can live in my spare room, if you can pay the extremely cheap rent.  Although I no longer consider Indianapolis a nice place to live, after the traveling I've done in the past few years.   Well some neighborhoods are nice, but it all depends on what you consider nice.

I will agree with this for the most part. I would say don't live downtown or on the east side. I live on the west side (Plainfield/Avon area) and its nice, imo. And there's also the political aspect, with the whole country looking at Pence and his RFRA bill, for example. But again, I'm sure there are plenty of better choices than here.

That's exactly what I mean by a person's version of nice.  A lot of people around here consider safer, quieter, whiter suburbs to be nice.  Admittedly, after some of the nonsense I experience in the city, I cannot argue with that.  However, there are many aspects of the suburbs that I can't ever see myself enjoy as a place to live.

My version of "nice" is a compact, mostly safe, urban neighborhood with stores and restaurants in close proximity, because I don't like to travel very far to access these things.  In Indianapolis, that basically limits you to Broad Ripple/Meridian Kessler, and perhaps Irvington.  And compared to similar neighborhoods offered in other urban areas, these neighborhoods are kinda a joke.

However, an obsession over comparison is a recipe for unhappiness, so I don't focus on that much.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: iri on Sun, 14 February 2016, 12:53:54
My version of "nice" is a compact, mostly safe, urban neighborhood with stores and restaurants in close proximity
So, basically any European city?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 14 February 2016, 13:30:42
My version of "nice" is a compact, mostly safe, urban neighborhood with stores and restaurants in close proximity
So, basically any European city?

Yea, that's what I picked up during my holiday visit to France.  Much lower crime rates, with cities that meet my preferences.  Good thing my girlfriend is French...
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jacobolus on Sun, 14 February 2016, 21:25:13
Not much at all. I'm pretty much at the beginner phase. And yeah, I mean programming language. Sorry for any confusion.  :))

Try this: http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: XMIT on Mon, 29 February 2016, 11:32:43
Y'all come down to Texas. There was a lengthy article about how Austin is great here:

http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/austin-and-the-city-of-the-eternal-boom/

Scott Aaronson, an MIT professor, is moving to UT. I really enjoyed reading his blog post on why he is making the move.

http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2620

If any GH members are looking to move to Austin for work, school, etc. please feel free to shoot me a PM. You may even be able to come visit and buy a Model M or try a Beamspring in person.

Spoilers: the summers are hot as balls and the traffic is awful.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 29 February 2016, 13:07:19
Y'all come down to Texas. There was a lengthy article about how Austin is great here:

http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/austin-and-the-city-of-the-eternal-boom/

Scott Aaronson, an MIT professor, is moving to UT. I really enjoyed reading his blog post on why he is making the move.

http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2620

If any GH members are looking to move to Austin for work, school, etc. please feel free to shoot me a PM. You may even be able to come visit and buy a Model M or try a Beamspring in person.

Spoilers: the summers are hot as balls and the traffic is awful.

I'm actually in the process of strongly considering Austin as my next location (among CO and CA).  My sister and her family are also thinking of making the move.

I was about to post in here asking for advice from Austin GHers.  Looks like you beat me to it!  :P
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: slip84 on Mon, 29 February 2016, 20:02:51
Lived in Nashville, TN for nearly 10 years. Loved it. Miss it dearly.

I miss southern Missouri, too, but it's quite rural.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: smknjoe on Mon, 29 February 2016, 20:25:39
Y'all come down to Texas. There was a lengthy article about how Austin is great here:

http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/austin-and-the-city-of-the-eternal-boom/

Scott Aaronson, an MIT professor, is moving to UT. I really enjoyed reading his blog post on why he is making the move.

http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2620

If any GH members are looking to move to Austin for work, school, etc. please feel free to shoot me a PM. You may even be able to come visit and buy a Model M or try a Beamspring in person.

Spoilers: the summers are hot as balls and the traffic is awful.

I'm actually in the process of strongly considering Austin as my next location (among CO and CA).  My sister and her family are also thinking of making the move.

I was about to post in here asking for advice from Austin GHers.  Looks like you beat me to it!  :P

Much of Texas is 100 degrees + for 6 months out of the year with nights in the 90's and humidity in the 80's-90's. So, it's basically miserable to go outside for half the year. The Winters are great though. 60's in the day and 50's at night more often than not. If I had my choice, I'd take Austin over any other area of Texas (I'm closer to the coast.) If you have a degree or lots of experience there is plenty of opportunity here.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 29 February 2016, 21:43:37
I miss southern Missouri, too, but it's quite rural.

You couldn't pay me enough to live there.

It may be fine if you're a local and grew up there, but if you aren't from there, my experience has been that you're pretty much unwelcome in the Ozarks region. I've been all over a huge chunk of the U.S. and never have I encountered such hostility to outsiders. I know others who also had bad experiences there.


Much of Texas is 100 degrees + for 6 months out of the year with nights in the 90's and humidity in the 80's-90's. So, it's basically miserable to go outside for half the year. The Winters are great though. 60's in the day and 50's at night more often than not. If I had my choice, I'd take Austin over any other area of Texas (I'm closer to the coast.) If you have a degree or lots of experience there is plenty of opportunity here.
Temp VERY much depends on the section of Texas you are in, it's a big place. San Antonio wasn't bad when I was there (January-Feb), but the panhandle is another story altogether, it got downright cold. With Texas, like California, you really need to research exactly where you want to go, both are very large and diverse.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: jacobolus on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:49:36
Half of Texas is miserable swamp, and the other half is miserable desert.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Tue, 01 March 2016, 02:17:20
Half of Texas is miserable swamp, and the other half is miserable desert.
Wat about the middle of each half?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:22:19
Y'all come down to Texas. There was a lengthy article about how Austin is great here:

http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/austin-and-the-city-of-the-eternal-boom/

Scott Aaronson, an MIT professor, is moving to UT. I really enjoyed reading his blog post on why he is making the move.

http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2620

If any GH members are looking to move to Austin for work, school, etc. please feel free to shoot me a PM. You may even be able to come visit and buy a Model M or try a Beamspring in person.

Spoilers: the summers are hot as balls and the traffic is awful.

I'm actually in the process of strongly considering Austin as my next location (among CO and CA).  My sister and her family are also thinking of making the move.

I was about to post in here asking for advice from Austin GHers.  Looks like you beat me to it!  :P

Much of Texas is 100 degrees + for 6 months out of the year with nights in the 90's and humidity in the 80's-90's. So, it's basically miserable to go outside for half the year. The Winters are great though. 60's in the day and 50's at night more often than not. If I had my choice, I'd take Austin over any other area of Texas (I'm closer to the coast.) If you have a degree or lots of experience there is plenty of opportunity here.

Yeah the heat would be murder.  But on the plus side, at least it would be really sunny when you're holed up inside (as opposed to up here where it's always dark in the winter).  I'm still really torn because I do like it up here, but the dark is getting to me...  :confused:
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: XMIT on Mon, 07 March 2016, 11:40:29
Half of Texas is miserable swamp, and the other half is miserable desert.

I think Austin sits at the intersection of the two, given the weather patterns, soil and terrain.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: chyros on Mon, 07 March 2016, 12:02:15
I'd recommend my own home city but that wouldn't exactly be unbiased :p .

Apart from that, and on an uncharacteristically non-US note :P Copenhagen is pretty amazing, as is anywhere in Norway. Depending on how much you like cities another good choice might be LUNDUN M8 YEAH INNIT. If you're not afraid of alien creatures that will kill you in minutes, Australia should be good too (if they let you in).
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: slip84 on Mon, 07 March 2016, 12:15:20
I miss southern Missouri, too, but it's quite rural.

You couldn't pay me enough to live there.

It may be fine if you're a local and grew up there, but if you aren't from there, my experience has been that you're pretty much unwelcome in the Ozarks region. I've been all over a huge chunk of the U.S. and never have I encountered such hostility to outsiders. I know others who also had bad experiences there.

Huh. Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 07 March 2016, 12:30:02
Paris is a nice place.
So is Zenica in Bosnia.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: BLaZe on Mon, 07 March 2016, 12:40:31
Paris is a nice place.
So is Zenica in Bosnia.

Paris is too expensive  :( A nice place to live when you have money, or else you live in the suburbs and it isn't really dreamy there.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: iri on Mon, 07 March 2016, 14:04:05
I'd recommend my own home city but that wouldn't exactly be unbiased :p .
WHERE DAT
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 07 March 2016, 21:46:26
I miss southern Missouri, too, but it's quite rural.

You couldn't pay me enough to live there.

It may be fine if you're a local and grew up there, but if you aren't from there, my experience has been that you're pretty much unwelcome in the Ozarks region. I've been all over a huge chunk of the U.S. and never have I encountered such hostility to outsiders. I know others who also had bad experiences there.

Huh. Care to elaborate?
A customer of mine was down there with her BF's rock band, they walked into a bar and were kindly told to get the f out. When they asked why, the bartender said "look around, you clearly don't belong here and I don't want any trouble". Everyone was in overalls. They eventually managed one beer before they were forced to leave.

I've had a redneck in a Dodge 4x4 try and hold me to 65mph on 44, that resulted in a 5-10 mile run at more than 110mph with him chasing me the whole way bouncing off his fuel cutoff. There was also the guy who looked over at me, smiled, and tried to run me off the road at 80mph in bumper to bumper traffic near Springfield. Another time I stopped for gas in some tiny town off 44 and I swear the entire town stopped to watch my little red car (I was in an old BMW at the time), they didn't really start moving again until I was back on the highway.

A guy I know was just over the border in Arkansas in a BMW having some fun and put it in a ditch. The Sheriff gave him a ride across the border and told him leave the car and don't come back.

Don't get me wrong, I've met some decent people down there, I even have a friend who lives down there, but I've never been to, or heard of a place that was so openly aggressive to outsiders like that.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: slip84 on Sat, 12 March 2016, 14:35:04
Wow. That's all quite unfortunate! I've never had any trouble in the area myself, but as you pointed out, I'm a "local."

That said, I get some odd eyes when I go back. I suppose they know I've "been to the city" now.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: chyros on Sat, 12 March 2016, 18:38:28
I'd recommend my own home city but that wouldn't exactly be unbiased :p .
WHERE DAT
Utrecht.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: iri on Sat, 12 March 2016, 19:39:14
I'd recommend my own home city but that wouldn't exactly be unbiased :p .
WHERE DAT
Utrecht.
Didn't know Britain conquered someone again!
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: chyros on Sun, 13 March 2016, 06:27:02
I'd recommend my own home city but that wouldn't exactly be unbiased :p .
WHERE DAT
Utrecht.
Didn't know Britain conquered someone again!
I'm just here for my PhD :p .
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: MykB77 on Sun, 13 March 2016, 06:43:19
If choices are London (assuming London, CA), Toronto, Ottawa, I have worked extensively in all.  Toronto is interesting and fun to visit but wouldn't want to live there.  Too expensive.  Ottawa is a nice place but very boring.  London is smaller and a great place to go to school depending on what you want  to get into; for a place to start out, very liveable and not expensive.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: henz on Sun, 13 March 2016, 06:53:33
SWEDEN

+1
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: davkol on Sun, 13 March 2016, 07:51:58
Germany, Finland, Netherlands. They're very different, but all worth consideration IMO.

Consider studying abroad. For example, Germany is quite affordable; there's very little hand-holding compared to the US though.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: iri on Sun, 13 March 2016, 08:34:07
SWEDEN

+1
+100600
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 14 March 2016, 00:26:05
The Netherlands is gansta-land. I wouldn't recommend it.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: chyros on Mon, 14 March 2016, 04:12:31
The Netherlands is gansta-land. I wouldn't recommend it.
You wanna get shtoned, yesh? You wanna shee shome crazy ****?
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 14 March 2016, 04:17:03
The Netherlands is gansta-land. I wouldn't recommend it.
You wanna get shtoned, yesh? You wanna shee shome crazy ****?
WARNING! Someone wants to take my pocket change! Danger! Danger! Seriously, that is an authentic southern accent  :)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: iri on Mon, 14 March 2016, 07:56:26
AMSTERDAM IS A CESSPOOL OF CORRUPTION, CRIME, EVERYTHING IS OUT OF CONTROL, IT'S ANARCHY!!!

Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: sth on Mon, 14 March 2016, 08:03:43
I'd recommend my own home city but that wouldn't exactly be unbiased :p .
WHERE DAT
Utrecht.

Air tree don't listen. i grew up in WA, Utrecht has the same **** weather and no mountains or real nature to make up for it. Plus no mexican food :(
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: appleonama on Mon, 14 March 2016, 08:18:42
My room  ;)
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: merutz on Mon, 14 March 2016, 08:25:46
If you're not set on the US, Wien was voted the most livable city in the world for the seventh time!

https://www.wien.info/en/lifestyle-scene/most-livable-city

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/23/vienna-named-worlds-top-city-for-quality-of-life

There are also websites such as this (http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/), that compare the cost of living and all sorts of important aspects for everyday life.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: iri on Mon, 14 March 2016, 10:43:00
But in Vienna, everyone is a rude smoker!
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: chyros on Mon, 14 March 2016, 12:48:04
I'd recommend my own home city but that wouldn't exactly be unbiased :p .
WHERE DAT
Utrecht.

Air tree don't listen. i grew up in WA, Utrecht has the same **** weather and no mountains or real nature to make up for it. Plus no mexican food :(
Hills and mountains are horrible, they make cycling much worse D: . There's no real nature to speak of in all of the Netherlands, either. It's not that great to visit, but it's very nice to live in.

In fact I've found that most places that are nice to visit aren't that great to live in, and that places that are very nice to live in generally aren't that much fun to visit.
Title: Re: Nice places to live?
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 14 March 2016, 15:09:30
There is the possibility that I'll be going to University in Germany in the next few years, so I might get the chance to visit some of these places, see what I like and all.