I don't think artisans come out that fast to honestly have AotM. Unless you're just talking about colorways of the same designs being used.
I don't think artisans come out that fast to honestly have AotM. Unless you're just talking about colorways of the same designs being used.
I don't think artisans come out that fast to honestly have AotM. Unless you're just talking about colorways of the same designs being used.
And unlike boards, you can't really change or mod an artisan at all once you have it
Hell, maybe I'm thinking too narrowly.
It could even be "Maker of the Month"
Whether they created an artisan cap, a cool case, wrist rest, whatever!
I don't think artisans come out that fast to honestly have AotM. Unless you're just talking about colorways of the same designs being used.
I don't think artisans come out that fast to honestly have AotM. Unless you're just talking about colorways of the same designs being used.
I don't think artisans come out that fast to honestly have AotM. Unless you're just talking about colorways of the same designs being used.
I feel like there are constantly sales.
In January there was what? KK PurrKey, Suited Up, Gloyz, Bro Caps, Fett Caps, DOOM, Lootkeys, and I know I'm missing some.
That already seems substantial enough for a poll as most of the KOTM polls are only three options.
Alternatively, it could be for the entire year like the Keyset poll.
I don't think artisans come out that fast to honestly have AotM. Unless you're just talking about colorways of the same designs being used.
I feel like there are constantly sales.
In January there was what? KK PurrKey, Suited Up, Gloyz, Bro Caps, Fett Caps, DOOM, Lootkeys, and I know I'm missing some.
That already seems substantial enough for a poll as most of the KOTM polls are only three options.
Alternatively, it could be for the entire year like the Keyset poll.
I agree. And not only that, we could vote for our favorite designs instead of the maker.
with the $ynth coming out, this is a great idea. I would expect there to be more people making their own caps.
The pool of possible candidates for "keyboard of the month" far exceeds what is represented in the Artisan community. If this is to be longstanding, that has to be considered, otherwise there will be a lot of repeat nominees and wins.
The pool of possible candidates for "keyboard of the month" far exceeds what is represented in the Artisan community. If this is to be longstanding, that has to be considered, otherwise there will be a lot of repeat nominees and wins.
Definitely, which is why I wanted to get some feedback and toss the idea back and forth before just setting up a poll.
Not that we need 100% consensus but I would like to see what and how (and if!) the majority of users want to vote on something like this and narrow down/define the criteria.
with the $ynth coming out, this is a great idea. I would expect there to be more people making their own caps.
I've been slowly reading that entire thread. Has it been decided that it'll be a good way to make sculpted caps, or is it geared mostly toward blanks?
I think if this is going to have any value it should just be an award for most innovative design/thing of the month in the artisan arena. For example, a new technique (like KeyKollectiv's encapsulation or Doom's marbling), a new invention (like $ynth), etc. Otherwise the poll is just a popularity contest and will just exacerbate everything that's wrong with the artisan market today. An award for innovation will at least create good (productive) incentives.
I think if this is going to have any value it should just be an award for most innovative design/thing of the month in the artisan arena. For example, a new technique (like KeyKollectiv's encapsulation or Doom's marbling), a new invention (like $ynth), etc. Otherwise the poll is just a popularity contest and will just exacerbate everything that's wrong with the artisan market today. An award for innovation will at least create good (productive) incentives.
Now that I'm thinking about more, I think specific design/cap would be the best voting metric. Innovation would certainly be an important factor. Another example I can think of is the resin-fusing KeyKollectiv has been doing and the way they executed GID for Furt.
Could push some people to come out with cool new caps and maybe even spur a little friendly competition :P
I think if this is going to have any value it should just be an award for most innovative design/thing of the month in the artisan arena. For example, a new technique (like KeyKollectiv's encapsulation or Doom's marbling), a new invention (like $ynth), etc. Otherwise the poll is just a popularity contest and will just exacerbate everything that's wrong with the artisan market today. An award for innovation will at least create good (productive) incentives.
Now that I'm thinking about more, I think specific design/cap would be the best voting metric. Innovation would certainly be an important factor. Another example I can think of is the resin-fusing KeyKollectiv has been doing and the way they executed GID for Furt.
Could push some people to come out with cool new caps and maybe even spur a little friendly competition :P
I think if this is going to have any value it should just be an award for most innovative design/thing of the month in the artisan arena. For example, a new technique (like KeyKollectiv's encapsulation or Doom's marbling), a new invention (like $ynth), etc. Otherwise the poll is just a popularity contest and will just exacerbate everything that's wrong with the artisan market today. An award for innovation will at least create good (productive) incentives.
Now that I'm thinking about more, I think specific design/cap would be the best voting metric. Innovation would certainly be an important factor. Another example I can think of is the resin-fusing KeyKollectiv has been doing and the way they executed GID for Furt.
Could push some people to come out with cool new caps and maybe even spur a little friendly competition :P
Isn't keyboard of the month a popularity contest to begin with? All contests done via polls are popularity contests. That's the whole point of the vote. We're voting for our favorite design. If the majority votes for the same design it's because they like it the most and is therefore the most popular.
I think if this is going to have any value it should just be an award for most innovative design/thing of the month in the artisan arena. For example, a new technique (like KeyKollectiv's encapsulation or Doom's marbling), a new invention (like $ynth), etc. Otherwise the poll is just a popularity contest and will just exacerbate everything that's wrong with the artisan market today. An award for innovation will at least create good (productive) incentives.
Now that I'm thinking about more, I think specific design/cap would be the best voting metric. Innovation would certainly be an important factor. Another example I can think of is the resin-fusing KeyKollectiv has been doing and the way they executed GID for Furt.
Could push some people to come out with cool new caps and maybe even spur a little friendly competition :P
Isn't keyboard of the month a popularity contest to begin with? All contests done via polls are popularity contests. That's the whole point of the vote. We're voting for our favorite design. If the majority votes for the same design it's because they like it the most and is therefore the most popular.
And the value of that is?
I think if this is going to have any value it should just be an award for most innovative design/thing of the month in the artisan arena. For example, a new technique (like KeyKollectiv's encapsulation or Doom's marbling), a new invention (like $ynth), etc. Otherwise the poll is just a popularity contest and will just exacerbate everything that's wrong with the artisan market today. An award for innovation will at least create good (productive) incentives.
Now that I'm thinking about more, I think specific design/cap would be the best voting metric. Innovation would certainly be an important factor. Another example I can think of is the resin-fusing KeyKollectiv has been doing and the way they executed GID for Furt.
Could push some people to come out with cool new caps and maybe even spur a little friendly competition :P
I have to say, respectfully though, that I don't think the poll is necessarily a good thing. It's very hard for the average person to see how innovative a particular cap is if they don't understand the casting process. And the most popular caps are already apparent, so I don't see the value added by having a poll about it. It would kind of be like the Oscar's.
I think if this is going to have any value it should just be an award for most innovative design/thing of the month in the artisan arena. For example, a new technique (like KeyKollectiv's encapsulation or Doom's marbling), a new invention (like $ynth), etc. Otherwise the poll is just a popularity contest and will just exacerbate everything that's wrong with the artisan market today. An award for innovation will at least create good (productive) incentives.
Now that I'm thinking about more, I think specific design/cap would be the best voting metric. Innovation would certainly be an important factor. Another example I can think of is the resin-fusing KeyKollectiv has been doing and the way they executed GID for Furt.
Could push some people to come out with cool new caps and maybe even spur a little friendly competition :P
I have to say, respectfully though, that I don't think the poll is necessarily a good thing. It's very hard for the average person to see how innovative a particular cap is if they don't understand the casting process. And the most popular caps are already apparent, so I don't see the value added by having a poll about it. It would kind of be like the Oscar's.
I definitely understand your apprehension. I'm still pretty skeptical about the idea which is why I opened it up for discussion. Like FLFisherman said above, I don't see how the other polls are any different. Not everyone voting for Keyboard of the Month is going to know just how much work went behind each keyboard - for example the FSSK, and they might vote for the one they think is more visually appealing, and that's ok!
It's really just fun to see what the community puts forward as nominations and ultimately what the majority vote turns out to be. I just thought this could be another category like that. If there are some really glaring issues regarding favouritism, or if the artisans themselves are not fond of this idea like I mentioned before, then obviously I don't think we should go through with it.
I think it could be interesting to have the consideration be on the submitter, not just the artisan cap(s) itself. What i mean by this is considering the photo, arrangement, or what keyset its paired with. Maybe someone has been trying to get a particularly rare set of artisans (CMY or something similar) and finally completed it. Or maybe someone makes a scene that really goes well with the spirit of that particular cap. I think the idea could promote interesting submissions.
I think it could be interesting to have the consideration be on the submitter, not just the artisan cap(s) itself. What i mean by this is considering the photo, arrangement, or what keyset its paired with. Maybe someone has been trying to get a particularly rare set of artisans (CMY or something similar) and finally completed it. Or maybe someone makes a scene that really goes well with the spirit of that particular cap. I think the idea could promote interesting submissions.
I think it could be interesting to have the consideration be on the submitter, not just the artisan cap(s) itself. What i mean by this is considering the photo, arrangement, or what keyset its paired with. Maybe someone has been trying to get a particularly rare set of artisans (CMY or something similar) and finally completed it. Or maybe someone makes a scene that really goes well with the spirit of that particular cap. I think the idea could promote interesting submissions.
Ohh this is a really cool idea too. One caveat for this hypothetical situation might be that the entries must be nominations (no self-submissions) just like in KOTM. That way people can nominate pictures other users have posted in the Keyboard Photography or "Post your ____ Caps" threads. Could make for a nice collection of nominations that others may have missed due to the large amount of media threads!
with the $ynth coming out, this is a great idea. I would expect there to be more people making their own caps.
I've been slowly reading that entire thread. Has it been decided that it'll be a good way to make sculpted caps, or is it geared mostly toward blanks?
blanks would be easier, but it should be able to do both without any issue. The hardest part would be the sculpt. As far as I know if whatever key you place in the $ynth you can get a mold from, then take the mold\casting and make the actual cap.
I have not been reading that thread, but I would expect a lot more copy's (K3KC) to come out. Potentially destroying any aftermarket value.
I think having a artisan of the month is a wonderful idea and could showcase new artisan makers.
with the $ynth coming out, this is a great idea. I would expect there to be more people making their own caps.
I've been slowly reading that entire thread. Has it been decided that it'll be a good way to make sculpted caps, or is it geared mostly toward blanks?
blanks would be easier, but it should be able to do both without any issue. The hardest part would be the sculpt. As far as I know if whatever key you place in the $ynth you can get a mold from, then take the mold\casting and make the actual cap.
I have not been reading that thread, but I would expect a lot more copy's (K3KC) to come out. Potentially destroying any aftermarket value.
I think having a artisan of the month is a wonderful idea and could showcase new artisan makers.
Blanks can be artistically done and to be honest casting as a technique is harder than the sculpture. People are going to learn a lot as the proper tools to cast keys become more readily available and knowledge spreads.
Both sculpting and casting as an artform take attributes of a crafter like patience and precision and make them a requirement.
This is a neat idea and if everyone keeps a level head I'm sure even the artisans will have more fun with their releases :) Personally I like it when people do blogs of their favorite things that are happening with keyboards, and it would be awesome if bloggers saw a little recognition for all the work they do condensing the hustle and bustle of artisans, engineering, keyboards, keycaps, and other technologies into a pleasant format. That's really something that needs rewarding!
I'm not even kidding I read it as asian of the month
I'm not even kidding I read it as asian of the month
There are dozens of us!
So mobbo, when are you going to start the official nominations for January? :thumb:
NO
I'm not even kidding I read it as asian of the month
There are dozens of us!
So mobbo, when are you going to start the official nominations for January? :thumb:
I was going to nominate Siifood
NO
k its off guys
edit: oh **** demik's not a mod, i dont have to listen to him
sounds like a surefire way for the yogurt cartel to inflate certain aftermarket artisan prices.
/request denied.
NO
When do we start nominating? We have to make up for lost time.
edit: oh **** demik's not a mod, i dont have to listen to him
sounds like a surefire way for the yogurt cartel to inflate certain aftermarket artisan prices.
/request denied.
NO
k its off guys
edit: oh **** demik's not a mod, i dont have to listen to him
Wait...did you seriously think he was a mod?
sounds like a surefire way for the yogurt cartel to inflate certain aftermarket artisan prices.
/request denied.NOI agree with these dudes
Nah. I disagree with the keyboard of the month stuff and I'll disagree with this. It's just a popularity contest and people's feelings just get hurt. I just use it to spotlight cool boards that don't get enough attention. But I think I'd rather do that through my zine than in a special thread.
Blanks can be artistically done and to be honest casting as a technique is harder than the sculpture. People are going to learn a lot as the proper tools to cast keys become more readily available and knowledge spreads.
Both sculpting and casting as an artform take attributes of a crafter like patience and precision and make them a requirement.
I nominate booper as best ewok keycaps hands down
Is this already a part of your zine? Unfortunately I'm not subscribed. Can we change that? ;D
Nah. I disagree with the keyboard of the month stuff and I'll disagree with this. It's just a popularity contest and people's feelings just get hurt. I just use it to spotlight cool boards that don't get enough attention. But I think I'd rather do that through my zine than in a special thread.
You know, initially when I was thinking about this thing it was in more of a "Featured Artisan of the Month" kind of context, but since I didn't have any content I produce myself that could include such a section (and there is already someone who has monthly blog regarding the artisan scene), I figured a poll similar to KOTM might work.
Is this already a part of your zine? Unfortunately I'm not subscribed. Can we change that? ;D
I'm going to start including it in the future. Along with some other ideas. And to keep this thread clean, pop over to my thread if you want more info (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70769.0) then PM me.
Blanks can be artistically done and to be honest casting as a technique is harder than the sculpture. People are going to learn a lot as the proper tools to cast keys become more readily available and knowledge spreads.
Both sculpting and casting as an artform take attributes of a crafter like patience and precision and make them a requirement.
Nah bro, everyone is just in it to make a quick buck :llama:
Blanks can be artistically done and to be honest casting as a technique is harder than the sculpture. People are going to learn a lot as the proper tools to cast keys become more readily available and knowledge spreads.
Both sculpting and casting as an artform take attributes of a crafter like patience and precision and make them a requirement.
Nah bro, everyone is just in it to make a quick buck :llama:
Obv quickest buck.Show Image(http://www.nidodepoesia.com/ciervosalta.gif)
I think a blog or even a running thread here might be a better space. I just don't like the idea of the polls and then people getting upset because XYZ. Nothing wrong with multiple blogs at all. More content is never a bad thing; we're a really niche small hobby.
NO
k its off guys
edit: oh **** demik's not a mod, i dont have to listen to him
I think a blog or even a running thread here might be a better space. I just don't like the idea of the polls and then people getting upset because XYZ. Nothing wrong with multiple blogs at all. More content is never a bad thing; we're a really niche small hobby.
I can't agree more,
for me artisanal product can't be measured in terms of who like it better
I might like one thing, but it won't go the same with others
would be best to support the whole artisan game as a whole rather than cherry picking them in public, for the sake of the whole community and supporting what the artist has put into the product
I really fell in love with the full breed dukes (that I dint win). It is personal , I love many of the doom and key kollektiv but the dukes just reminded me of my Dude
I wanted to matchI really fell in love with the full breed dukes (that I dint win). It is personal , I love many of the doom and key kollektiv but the dukes just reminded me of my Dude
I think those bulldogs would be a great nomination for artisan cap of the month. If mobbo doesn't start a thread/poll for it I might. :thumb:
I really fell in love with the full breed dukes (that I dint win). It is personal , I love many of the doom and key kollektiv but the dukes just reminded me of my Dude
I think those bulldogs would be a great nomination for artisan cap of the month. If mobbo doesn't start a thread/poll for it I might. :thumb:
I really fell in love with the full breed dukes (that I dint win). It is personal , I love many of the doom and key kollektiv but the dukes just reminded me of my Dude
I think those bulldogs would be a great nomination for artisan cap of the month. If mobbo doesn't start a thread/poll for it I might. :thumb:
I say go for it! I suppose the sooner the better if we're doing a January vote.
Like CPT mentioned and I agree, his zine is a much better forum for what I had in mind so I am content with seeing how that'll turn out. :thumb: however polls are always fun and I'm sure people will enjoy it.
I think keyboard caps. More audience more funI really fell in love with the full breed dukes (that I dint win). It is personal , I love many of the doom and key kollektiv but the dukes just reminded me of my Dude
I think those bulldogs would be a great nomination for artisan cap of the month. If mobbo doesn't start a thread/poll for it I might. :thumb:
I say go for it! I suppose the sooner the better if we're doing a January vote.
Like CPT mentioned and I agree, his zine is a much better forum for what I had in mind so I am content with seeing how that'll turn out. :thumb: however polls are always fun and I'm sure people will enjoy it.
I will get right on it! Where should I post it though? Off Topic or Keyboard Keycaps? I was going to copy KoTM's example, but they've got their own forum. XD
I really fell in love with the full breed dukes (that I dint win). It is personal , I love many of the doom and key kollektiv but the dukes just reminded me of my Dude
I think those bulldogs would be a great nomination for artisan cap of the month. If mobbo doesn't start a thread/poll for it I might. :thumb:
I say go for it! I suppose the sooner the better if we're doing a January vote.
Like CPT mentioned and I agree, his zine is a much better forum for what I had in mind so I am content with seeing how that'll turn out. :thumb: however polls are always fun and I'm sure people will enjoy it.
I will get right on it! Where should I post it though? Off Topic or Keyboard Keycaps? I was going to copy KoTM's example, but they've got their own forum. XD