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Title: Email client
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 05 February 2016, 01:21:56
Just freshly installed my OS (Windows 10)

Wondering what you guys use for your email client, I do multiple email addresses and receives like 20-50 emails a day

The best one I use is in OSX with their on board email client, but at home I use windows
I used the one from windows (Mail) for the past year or so, don't like it at all
and outlook just too slow for me :(
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: jaffers on Fri, 05 February 2016, 01:25:35
Thunderbird
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 05 February 2016, 01:36:50
Thunderbird
Same
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: byker on Fri, 05 February 2016, 02:19:33
I use thunderbird as well, on win10 and I get about 100 emails /day. Works well enough, but isn't anything special.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 05 February 2016, 02:20:22
Thunderbird sounds promising, will give it a try tonight
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: sth on Fri, 05 February 2016, 02:26:34
mutt?

i still haven't successfully figured out how to get it working well with imap :(
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 05 February 2016, 03:09:58
I use thunderbird as well, on win10 and I get about 100 emails /day. Works well enough, but isn't anything special.
It's an email client, personally, I prefer a more basic email client. I deal with people using Outlook and even though they use almost none of the features, the files are massive.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 05 February 2016, 03:15:58
I use thunderbird as well, on win10 and I get about 100 emails /day. Works well enough, but isn't anything special.
It's an email client, personally, I prefer a more basic email client. I deal with people using Outlook and even though they use almost none of the features, the files are massive.

The difference I get when using the email client from OSX is massive, the workflow I get is better
this is in term how how fast they connect with the server, how they handle attachment etc

with windows client, I have long waiting time for attachment, their connection with various servers are also slow, plus it's hard to arrange word options the interface is confusing
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: jaffers on Fri, 05 February 2016, 04:13:32
It's email. Doesn't have to be complicated. I have rules and filters setup so that I get as few as possible.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 05 February 2016, 04:19:31
thunderbird
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 05 February 2016, 04:22:27
It's email. Doesn't have to be complicated. I have rules and filters setup so that I get as few as possible.

Have you experience the one from OSX?

It might be the nature of my work and workflow which made my experience with OSX pleasant
Might as well get an imac at home since I need to replicate the workflow

and I can't set rules and filters, since they're already filtered by the positions below me thus all of them are important
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 05 February 2016, 04:35:31
Definitely loved using thunderbird, but man, it takes so long to setup (IMO). I ended up sticking with the native web gmail app.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: flabbergast on Fri, 05 February 2016, 04:53:08
mutt?

i still haven't successfully figured out how to get it working well with imap :(
I use mutt (not sure with windows though, might require some jumping through hoops).
For IMAP - offlineimap rocks! Synchronises IMAP with a local dir, then mu or notmuch to index the collection and I have an ideal setup. Mutt is then really fast and has fulltext search.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 05 February 2016, 05:00:43
I use thunderbird as well, on win10 and I get about 100 emails /day. Works well enough, but isn't anything special.
It's an email client, personally, I prefer a more basic email client. I deal with people using Outlook and even though they use almost none of the features, the files are massive.

The difference I get when using the email client from OSX is massive, the workflow I get is better
this is in term how how fast they connect with the server, how they handle attachment etc

with windows client, I have long waiting time for attachment, their connection with various servers are also slow, plus it's hard to arrange word options the interface is confusing
I've used it in Linux, Windows and OSX, never had a problem.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 05 February 2016, 05:36:43
Installed thunderbird, so far so good
So much better than outlook IMO
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 05 February 2016, 05:56:27
emacs
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Michael on Fri, 05 February 2016, 09:49:36
http://www.emclient.com/
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: CSCoder4ever on Fri, 05 February 2016, 15:27:15
Thunderbird, since multi-platform... even though who knows what inevitable fate Thunderbird will face.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 05 February 2016, 15:31:31
GMail

Native email clients are so 90s
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 05 February 2016, 17:19:46
I hate mail though.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: CSCoder4ever on Fri, 05 February 2016, 18:26:06
GMail

Native ( command line ) email clients ( like alpine ) are so 90s

ftfy, since GUI email clients are here to stay, although even the command line clients and other neat tools have their niche too.  :p
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 05 February 2016, 18:31:25
GMail

Native email clients are so 90s

Email is so 90s. But it's still here and I'm afraid it's gonna stay a little longer. If only people had better mail hygiene and clients would thread better, perhaps mail would not be such a hassle to use.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Vittra on Fri, 05 February 2016, 18:34:43
Thunderbird.

That eM client looks like a reasonable alternative though. Clean UI.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 05 February 2016, 18:36:48
Very happy with Thunderbird :)

I'm hoping we can buy our own emailing server this year, that if the business expands well
for now I just don't see the return of such investment at our scale
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 05 February 2016, 18:39:19
Email is so 90s. But it's still here and I'm afraid it's gonna stay a little longer. If only people had better mail hygiene and clients would thread better, perhaps mail would not be such a hassle to use.

Email is great for longform discussion, I don't see it going anywhere for the foreseeable future. Proper hygiene does help a ton, and interfaces like gmail don't encourage this unfortunately.

I use mutt at work and mostly really love it. Gmail for personal mail (which isn't usually longform discussion). I'm not a huge fan of thunderbird.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 05 February 2016, 19:45:20
I used Outlook on IE for the first many years and switched to Gmail on top of Firefox a decade ago and never looked back.

There seems to be pressure to update again but I can't find any sufficiently compelling reasons.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:15:30
In the absence of anything better (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66879.0) I still use Thunderbird at home and work.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:28:16
Email is so 90s. But it's still here and I'm afraid it's gonna stay a little longer. If only people had better mail hygiene and clients would thread better, perhaps mail would not be such a hassle to use.

Email is great for longform discussion, I don't see it going anywhere for the foreseeable future. Proper hygiene does help a ton, and interfaces like gmail don't encourage this unfortunately.

I use mutt at work and mostly really love it. Gmail for personal mail (which isn't usually longform discussion). I'm not a huge fan of thunderbird.

I live in science and the corporate world. And people just copy-paste, not properly indicating what's their original text and what they quote. Spoiling the raw mail with signatures that go on and on. It is very easy to lose track of the actual content after a couple of reply's back and forth.

My university in particular. They more or less force us to have a signature with a crap load of marketing and extra info (nth best university in the world, university logo, visiting address, mail address, employee page, etc etc etc). So a mail with a one liner like "yo, have you checked out this paper?" is already like a screen long.

But I must say plain text mails like mailing lists are ok.

But GMAIL REALLY SUCKS. We have google apps for our university as well.

Does mutt play nice with GMAIL imap?
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: flabbergast on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:42:41
Does mutt play nice with GMAIL imap?
It is a bit complicated to set up properly (depending a bit on your workflow), but usable. (Well it was for me... YMMV.)
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:45:35
Does mutt play nice with GMAIL imap?
It is a bit complicated to set up properly (depending a bit on your workflow), but usable. (Well it was for me... YMMV.)

Care to provide a link / tutorial? I couldn't really figure it out on myself. I do not know what it is with linux/terminal and mail, but I always find it difficult (sendmail, postfix, weird config to me).
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: flabbergast on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:55:28
When I was setting this up (several years ago now), I used this (http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/) as a basis. Googling 'mutt gmail offlineimap' turns up a couple more posts that look relevant, and more recent than that one.
However note that this setup means having copies of emails locally, synced via IMAP to google (not necessarily all folders/tags though).

What I like about this setup is that
1) I have emails also locally (actually on several computers);
2) I have 2 accounts I want to keep separate (work, personal gmail) and this is achievable with this setup; I just have folders from both a accounts co-existing side-by-side
3) The passwords are not saved to the hard drive as plaintext, but I still don't need to enter the passwords every time I sync {BTW setting something like this in linux is well described, as usual, in arch wiki (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OfflineIMAP#Password_management).}
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:59:06
When I was setting this up (several years ago now), I used this (http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/) as a basis. Googling 'mutt gmail offlineimap' turns up a couple more posts that look relevant, and more recent than that one.
However note that this setup means having copies of emails locally, synced via IMAP to google (not necessarily all folders/tags though).

What I like about this setup is that
1) I have emails also locally (actually on several computers);
2) I have 2 accounts I want to keep separate (work, personal gmail) and this is achievable with this setup; I just have folders from both a accounts co-existing side-by-side
3) The passwords are not saved to the hard drive as plaintext, but I still don't need to enter the passwords every time I sync {BTW setting something like this in linux is well described, as usual, in arch wiki (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OfflineIMAP#Password_management).}

Thanks! I'm definitely gonna try this.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: Input Nirvana on Tue, 23 February 2016, 20:55:10
I have Outlook at work as part of our server Exchange, and I get almost 100 emails daily, some are part of 10 email thread where I'm usually the primary. It gets routed on my iPhone as well. I send/receive lots of photos/pdfs and voicemails are attachemnts.

Outside of work I'm a Mac guy and I've just been using OS X Mail.

I'm restarting my business this summer and would like to use a tighter and better, more robust email system.
Title: Re: Email client
Post by: algernon on Fri, 04 March 2016, 09:41:10
emacs

Same, using Gnus, with scoring, GMail via IMAP, mailing lists via gmane. I get about 200 mails a day, excluding mailing lists, write about two dozen. So far, nothing came even close to beating the customisability and power of Gnus.