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Title: Keyboard realism
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:15:34
The HHKB is the best keyboard in the world.

You heard it from me - The Cherry Picker.

MX5000 does come very, very close though, and MX boards still look nicer. I will forever remain a Cherry romantic.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:17:31
GG

It's about time for me too but I have other things to collect first.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: jerue on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:38:19
HHKB HG is the best in the world.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:39:26
HHKB HG is the best in the world.

Until you start to factor in the effect of a metal housing on the delicate acoustics of topre switches.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:39:52
Well, OP is correct. Lock it up. Nothing else to do here.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: chyros on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:48:44
Yeah no.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: mobbo on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:50:28
Yo I'll finally have BS, MX, Topre all under the same roof for once.

Imma find my own answer without all your peer pressure.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Vittra on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:54:55
The thread that should not be.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: billnye on Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:58:06
:] welcome, brother
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: demik on Fri, 12 February 2016, 11:41:26
May I ask you exactly what you like about it? Maybe people will start believing me when I tell them it's great if another established user says the same.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 12 February 2016, 12:59:04
May I ask you exactly what you like about it? Maybe people will start believing me when I tell them it's great if another established user says the same.
To be honest I didn't like it much when it was stock (this is a Type-S), but when I opened it up and lubricated all the sliders it started to feel brilliant. I then installed purple sliders which improved it a little bit again, but it was the lubrication that really made a huge difference.

In its modified state the main thing I like is the feeling of the switch, along with the great keycaps. I don't really like the layout any more than MX5000 or regular TKL, but the switches are just divine. Definitely the best I've used, although vintage browns do come close. Realforce isn't as nice :/
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: chyros on Fri, 12 February 2016, 12:59:36
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

:p
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: demik on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:04:31
May I ask you exactly what you like about it? Maybe people will start believing me when I tell them it's great if another established user says the same.
To be honest I didn't like it much when it was stock (this is a Type-S), but when I opened it up and lubricated all the sliders it started to feel brilliant. I then installed purple sliders which improved it a little bit again, but it was the lubrication that really made a huge difference.

In its modified state the main thing I like is the feeling of the switch, along with the great keycaps. I don't really like the layout any more than MX5000 or regular TKL, but the switches are just divine. Definitely the best I've used, although vintage browns do come close. Realforce isn't as nice :/

Hm, I guess I gotta try out lubed switches. Everybody raves about them. I find the board perfectly fine stock. But I think I'm in the minority there. Same with liking RF topre over hhkb topre. They feel more... smooth? I'm just not a fan of tkl anymore. Anyway, thanks for the response!
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:08:02
Hm, I guess I gotta try out lubed switches. Everybody raves about them. I find the board perfectly fine stock. But I think I'm in the minority there. Same with liking RF topre over hhkb topre. They feel more... smooth? I'm just not a fan of tkl anymore. Anyway, thanks for the response!
Definitely, definitely lubricate them if you can. The difference to me was like night and day. When I first got it I certainly preferred vintage browns and even Nixdorfs, but after modifying the switches it comes out on top. Have you tried a silenced one, or just an absolutely standard one?

I used 50/50 GPL 103 and GPL 205 mix and applied a decent coating to the areas where the sliders go, and also to the sliders themselves :

(http://i.imgur.com/2YnaOhm.jpg)
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: demik on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:19:44
I'll give it a try when I get my pro2 back and will report back
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:26:39
You've sent it off on its voyage already?
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: demik on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:27:46
It's on it's way to the second person as we speak.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Steezus on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:29:16
demik is our messiah, we may have pushed himself aside and did not believe his teachings but alas he speaks the truth.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: demik on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:32:07
Hallelujah holla back
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:34:15
How did the lube change the feel/sound?
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Bromono on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:39:34
MX boards still look nicer.

I disagree

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Dis one Ritos

Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:40:44
MX boards still look nicer.

I disagree

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Dis one Ritos

*cough* MX keycaps *cough*  ::)
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: demik on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:42:55
How to ruin topre in two easy steps. Install mx sliders and add cherry caps.

Cherry with cherry and topre with topre.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Bromono on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:43:08
MX boards still look nicer.

I disagree

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Dis one Ritos

*cough* MX keycaps *cough*  ::)

MX Keycaps > Topre

Dis I agree with!

How to ruin topre in two easy steps. Install mx sliders and add cherry caps.

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Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:47:02
How did the lube change the feel/sound?

I was wondering about that. I myself have lubed three topre boards (HHKB,RF,660c) but the only noticeable change is improved silence (less clacking maybe). I haven't really felt any real change in the keystroke itself.

I think the source of the lube and the viscosity would have somethign to do with it. I guess using a more thick formula will alter the stroke.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:47:58
How to ruin topre in two easy steps. Install mx sliders and add cherry caps.

Cherry with cherry and topre with topre.

Pretty sure there's something in the Torah about not mixing Topre and MX. Definitely not kosher.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:54:58
Topre has very delicate acoustics and tactility to it.
Change the case or even the caps and you can ruin that easily.

Digilog case plus MX caps is a direct trade-off between what makes topre good and aesthetics; though, in all fairness, some boards look even uglier after they get MX caps.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:55:12
I disagree

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Too colourful..

Honestly, it's not so much the keyboards themselves. A lot of MX keyboards look really bad (that said, some look superb). I just think all keycaps look like crap compared to original Cherry ones. And then there's the customs...

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5578/14893404437_b5ce4c210a_h.jpg)
(http://puu.sh/lWw7M/6a847dcd57.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/3740056067_dc0e8a7a__MG_9296.jpg)
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 14 February 2016, 00:25:56
Disclaimer: typed on my HHKB.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 14 February 2016, 03:47:33
betrayer
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 19 July 2017, 10:45:39
The HHKB is the best keyboard in the world.

yes
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 19 July 2017, 11:59:48
yes
(http://i.imgur.com/CqW8uJl.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/jlF52my.png)
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 19 July 2017, 13:08:10
k, send me your 3278.
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 19 July 2017, 14:15:07
k, send me your 3278.
money me
Title: Re: Keyboard realism
Post by: ander on Thu, 20 July 2017, 05:10:48
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium_pricing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium_pricing)