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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: hKing on Sun, 28 February 2016, 04:54:09
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Hello there,
I am currently planning my next build.
I want to tune my vintage blacks with some korean springs as I tend towards heavier switches. MX Browns for me are like MX Reds to others:
/no real "feeling" for the switch
/bottom-out every key
/relatively more typos (compared to my 67gr Zealios)
So I came across those korean custom springs you can buy. My problem is that I don't know which spring weight I should get. I thought of buying 67gr as those are in my Zealios - I like them.
Then I came across this thread on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/452u1w/buying_120x_custom_cherry_mx_springs_3pack_on/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/452u1w/buying_120x_custom_cherry_mx_springs_3pack_on/), specifically a post from a guy called "ripster55" (scroll down a bit).
So I am very confused now of what spring I should buy.
I need some springs, heavier (!) than stock MX Browns, something close around stock MX Clears - maybe a bit less.
What spring weight would that be?
According to his thread here on GH (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0)), 67 gr Zealios should be somewhat close to stock MX Clears, right?
Thanks in advance for helping me out!
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Not sure if troll, ripster shill incarnate pls go
Korean springs are usually measured until the actuation force whereas western keyboard communities measure until bottom out iirc
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Other way around. Koreans measure spring weight by bottom out typically, which is how Zeal states his Zealios too.
Most NA/European literature will mention actuation force primarily.
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Thanks for your input, but that doesn't help me... :-[
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MX Browns to MX Clears is a pretty significant gap. 67g Zealios are not suppose to feel close to MX Clears, they are suppose to feel like ergo-clears. Ergo-Clears originally started out taking a MX Brown spring and putting it into a MX Clear housing. It is all opinionated on which one feels better but generally 62g-67g is good weights for ergo-clears.
So saying you want something between MX Browns and MX Clears leaves you with a pretty wide margin. MX Clears bottom out ~95cN whereas Browns bottom out ~60cN.
We can't really decide for you on what feels best. Everything about keyboards is opinionated. Springs are pretty cheap so why not just buy a few weights and pop them into your MX Blacks and see which one you like better.
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The only place right now where I can buy different springs is mechanicalkeyboards.com. The shipping price is insane, 30 USD for a pack of springs to Germany.
But they only have stock for 68 gr, 67 gr is out of stock.
The rest of the shops are pretty much out of stock.
I already talked to Zeal, he doesn't restock his springs.
Sprit won't answer my PMs, but it seems that I am not the only one in this case.
Winkeyless / KBDmod / GON have stock, but only up to 62 gr because Koreans don't like heavy switches (afaik)
Originative is out of stock.
Are there other places?