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Title: Daylight Savings
Post by: njbair on Thu, 03 March 2016, 12:39:07
Just a friendly reminder for all of our U.S.-based Geekhackers. The time springs ahead one hour this weekend, so don't forget to be one hour late to everything on Sunday!

All joking aside, does anyone else love DST as much as I do? It's literally my favorite chronological boundary condition.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 03 March 2016, 12:40:37
I heard it's something new for you guys in the US?

Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: zombiegristle on Thu, 03 March 2016, 12:40:59
I absolutely hate DST. I also hate timezones and set all my personal clocks and devices to UTC.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: njbair on Thu, 03 March 2016, 12:49:07
I heard it's something new for you guys in the US?

Not really...AFAIK most U.S. states have been using DST since WWII or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 March 2016, 12:52:59
Just a friendly reminder for all of our U.S.-based Geekhackers. The time springs ahead one hour this weekend, so don't forget to be one hour late to everything on Sunday!

All joking aside, does anyone else love DST as much as I do? It's literally my favorite chronological boundary condition.

I think you mean next weekend the 13th of March. :thumb:
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: njbair on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:00:15
Just a friendly reminder for all of our U.S.-based Geekhackers. The time springs ahead one hour this weekend, so don't forget to be one hour late to everything on Sunday!

All joking aside, does anyone else love DST as much as I do? It's literally my favorite chronological boundary condition.

I think you mean next weekend the 13th of March. :thumb:
You're right. I've been lied to!
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:05:21
I heard it's something new for you guys in the US?

Not really...AFAIK most U.S. states have been using DST since WWII or thereabouts.

I think it was more widely adopted in the US in the 60s and 70s, but it's still been common here for a long time.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:07:12
I don't even think it helps in the USA, since all the buildings are shuttered so tightly and run high power florescent all day
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: njbair on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:11:57
I don't even think it helps in the USA, since all the buildings are shuttered so tightly and run high power florescent all day
It makes a big difference. Summer is when you stay out late, so it's nice that it stays light longer.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:23:07
I HATE daylight savings time. Living on the far western edge of a large time zone (Central) means that in the midsummer, it sometimes doesn't get full dark until almost 10pm. As someone who isn't a fan of sunlight anyway, I'm not a fan of the day being artificially extended an hour later.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:55:13
I like it, and I have also almost always lived on the western side.

But I don't like to have to get up in the dark, and I also don't like having it get light before I have to get up, so keeping sunrise and wake-up time closer together suits me.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 03 March 2016, 14:04:59
meh

rip to my already ****ed up sleep schedule
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 03 March 2016, 14:07:26
I already don't get enough sleep -1 hour is going to drive me crazy.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 03 March 2016, 17:05:24
I don't even think it helps in the USA, since all the buildings are shuttered so tightly and run high power florescent all day
It makes a big difference. Summer is when you stay out late, so it's nice that it stays light longer.

it doesn't stay light longer , only by 1 hour. which isn't really enough.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: njbair on Thu, 03 March 2016, 17:06:39
I don't even think it helps in the USA, since all the buildings are shuttered so tightly and run high power florescent all day
It makes a big difference. Summer is when you stay out late, so it's nice that it stays light longer.

it doesn't stay light longer , only by 1 hour. which isn't really enough.
Better to use that light up between 9-10 p.m. than between 5-6 a.m.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Thu, 03 March 2016, 18:44:03
Just when I was starting to enjoy my sunlit morning drives...
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 03 March 2016, 20:00:30
I dislike daylight saving and daylight losing.

In winter it's dark when I go to work in the morning and dark when I get home at night.

In summer it's bright sun light when I go to work in the morning and the same when I get home at night.

In between it's varying degrees of lightedness.

I don't see why we have to keep changing the clock time every 6 months.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: jerue on Thu, 03 March 2016, 20:16:35
TLDR - moooooo

Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 03 March 2016, 20:50:34
Indiana used to be the worst.  The whole state was officially in Central from 1918 to 1961.  Some places didn't respect that, the unofficially went with Eastern.  Some even observed Daylight Savings.

Then 1960s arrived, and along with rock and roll, flower children, Vietnam, and The Great Society, most of Indiana officially switched to Eastern.  Some did the Daylight Savings thing, some didn't.

The switch was rough for awhile, because eventually 82 counties observed Eastern, and then 10 Counties in northwest and southwest were Central.  Finally, stability.

Well, it's not always 10.  Sometimes 1 or 2 counties would jump in the Central time zone and then leave.  They can't make up there mind!

But wait!  For the longest time, the 80-82 Indiana counties in the Eastern counties did not observe daylight savings time.  They never changed the clocks.  Central always did Daylight Savings.  In the summertime, all of Indiana was in the same time zone when Central jumped forward.  In the winter, the Eastern/Central time difference was observed.

But wait! A few of the counties near Louisville and Cincinnati observed Daylight Savings with the rest of the Eastern time zone.  If you're commuting across the Ohio River to the big city, don't you want to be on the same time?

Then Mitch Daniels came along.  A businessman that could solve problems and deliver.  There were some rough patches in 2006 and 2007 figuring out exactly which counties fit best in Eastern or Central. 

But My Man Mitch eventually solved the problem of Indiana's time zones.  10 counties in Central, 82 in Eastern, and Daylight Savings for everybody!

For your enjoyment:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 04 March 2016, 00:28:16
DLST is utter and complete bull****. **** you Ben Franklin.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: naasfu on Fri, 04 March 2016, 00:31:50
DST is the worst.  really not looking forward to having to get up earlier.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:52:49
What a fellow countryman thinks of DST (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160304/a8bc23219da027938ad7c6a15d42e5e8.jpg)
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: henz on Fri, 04 March 2016, 07:15:51
it was the germans idea!
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 March 2016, 10:46:33
What a fellow countryman thinks of DST
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160304/a8bc23219da027938ad7c6a15d42e5e8.jpg)


Hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahhaha  (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/lol2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862512)
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 04 March 2016, 11:20:20
Indiana used to be the worst.  The whole state was officially in Central from 1918 to 1961.  Some places didn't respect that, the unofficially went with Eastern.  Some even observed Daylight Savings.

Then 1960s arrived, and along with rock and roll, flower children, Vietnam, and The Great Society, most of Indiana officially switched to Eastern.  Some did the Daylight Savings thing, some didn't.

The switch was rough for awhile, because eventually 82 counties observed Eastern, and then 10 Counties in northwest and southwest were Central.  Finally, stability.

Well, it's not always 10.  Sometimes 1 or 2 counties would jump in the Central time zone and then leave.  They can't make up there mind!

But wait!  For the longest time, the 80-82 Indiana counties in the Eastern counties did not observe daylight savings time.  They never changed the clocks.  Central always did Daylight Savings.  In the summertime, all of Indiana was in the same time zone when Central jumped forward.  In the winter, the Eastern/Central time difference was observed.

But wait! A few of the counties near Louisville and Cincinnati observed Daylight Savings with the rest of the Eastern time zone.  If you're commuting across the Ohio River to the big city, don't you want to be on the same time?

Then Mitch Daniels came along.  A businessman that could solve problems and deliver.  There were some rough patches in 2006 and 2007 figuring out exactly which counties fit best in Eastern or Central. 

But My Man Mitch eventually solved the problem of Indiana's time zones.  10 counties in Central, 82 in Eastern, and Daylight Savings for everybody!

For your enjoyment:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana

I have accepted the fact that when I drive through IN I simply will not know what time it is.  Even my phone doesn't update right away, so I honestly have no clue until I get close enough to Indy that I can be confident I have left Central.  Y'all need to stop commuting out of the state and get your **** figured out.  :P
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: ika on Sat, 12 March 2016, 22:11:57
Friendly reminder that daylight savings is going to make everyone in the US lose another hour of sleep on top of whatever Clackvent has been stealing from you :thumb:
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: tullyvivi on Sun, 13 March 2016, 15:06:38
I heard it causes increasing change of heart attack... prob myth.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 13 March 2016, 15:36:16
I heard it causes increasing change of heart attack... prob myth.

Maybe not such a myth ...

http://www.livescience.com/50068-daylight-saving-time-heart-attacks.html
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: widdlekitty on Sun, 13 March 2016, 18:45:05
As someone who works in a dark room all day, its nice to leave the office and actually experience daylight during the week :)
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 March 2016, 19:01:26
It should have been dark an hour ago, what is this madness.....
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 13 March 2016, 19:53:07
That is irrelevant. What will suck will be getting up in the dark tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:51:34
We're going to to the opposite way soon.  it's dark when I go to work in the mornings, and light when I get home.

Soonish we're supposed to switch so it will be light in the mornings again, and not quite so dark in the evenings.

For a couple of weeks it is actually night time dark when I head home from work in the city, but most of the winter it's still lightish in the city, but is actually dark when I get home.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 14 March 2016, 02:36:44
http://xkcd.com/1655/
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 14 March 2016, 03:02:12
10 PM is now sundown.. ffs Florida.. will it ever end?

Edit - Dramatization brought to you by IBM
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: appleonama on Mon, 14 March 2016, 03:08:35
 :'( now I will wake up to full blown sunlight.. I hate the sun
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 14 March 2016, 03:10:42
:'( now I will wake up to full blown sunlight.. I hate the sun
Believe in Ra, and Ra will believe in you!
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: naasfu on Mon, 14 March 2016, 03:48:39
stupid daylight savings!  i'm not sleepy now but i should go to bed.  and mornings are going to be painful to adjust to for awhile.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 14 March 2016, 06:49:09
The amount of daylight changes quickly around the equinoxes, so we should be back to where we were (morning-wise) in a couple of weeks.
Those of us on the north half, that is.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: Waateva on Mon, 14 March 2016, 10:42:45
Contrary to most people in this thread, I am very happy with DST right now!  My baby had been waking up when the sun came up around 6:45-7AM for the last couple weeks, but today he didn't wake up until almost 8AM! 
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: Bromono on Mon, 14 March 2016, 10:45:50
Had a PT test this morning, I felt drunk.

Went to sleep at like 12 and woke up at 5 and PT at 6.

I don't even remember half of it.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:20:47
Had a PT test this morning, I felt drunk.

Went to sleep at like 12 and woke up at 5 and PT at 6.

I don't even remember half of it.

careful driving home.. (http://img.emoticonplus.com/1dBRX.gif)
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:44:40
Contrary to most people in this thread, I am very happy with DST right now!  My baby had been waking up when the sun came up around 6:45-7AM for the last couple weeks, but today he didn't wake up until almost 8AM!

My boss had the same deal with his dog.

Honestly, I hate this. I loved waking up in the morning to glorious sunlight. This morning, I drove in the goddamned rain, pitch black, still a bit sick from this weekend. It was awful.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:48:36
Contrary to most people in this thread, I am very happy with DST right now!  My baby had been waking up when the sun came up around 6:45-7AM for the last couple weeks, but today he didn't wake up until almost 8AM!

My boss had the same deal with his dog.

Honestly, I hate this. I loved waking up in the morning to glorious sunlight. This morning, I drove in the goddamned rain, pitch black, still a bit sick from this weekend. It was awful.

I've been waking up in the dark the entire winter.  I'm just excited to actually have some light on the tail end of the day.  Who cares if it's dark when I'm half-asleep driving to work anyway?  Not like I'll even remember.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: Waateva on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:50:12
Contrary to most people in this thread, I am very happy with DST right now!  My baby had been waking up when the sun came up around 6:45-7AM for the last couple weeks, but today he didn't wake up until almost 8AM!

My boss had the same deal with his dog.

Honestly, I hate this. I loved waking up in the morning to glorious sunlight. This morning, I drove in the goddamned rain, pitch black, still a bit sick from this weekend. It was awful.

Hooray for children and animals that don't have to follow a schedule based on the time :D
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: zombiegristle on Tue, 15 March 2016, 10:28:17
Now I'm curious; DST is the same thing, at the same time, year after year. Why don't you guys just get yourselves accustomed to the offset beforehand, so it's less stressful when it kicks in?
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: mrbishop on Tue, 15 March 2016, 11:06:26
i have been screwed up since Saturday. screw DST why can't we just move 30 mins and let that sh** ride all year forever. why the hour? grrrrr


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Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 15 March 2016, 11:10:46
Tp4 is enjoying the xtra solar energy.. (http://img.emoticonplus.com/sXpqA.gif)
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: zombiegristle on Tue, 15 March 2016, 11:16:08
i have been screwed up since Saturday. screw DST why can't we just move 30 mins and let that sh** ride all year forever. why the hour? grrrrr


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I still think it should just be abolished entirely, along with timezones. The Earth's rotation is at the same point no matter what number you slap on it, if we all used a single reference point like GMT/UTC and never changed it due to stupid nonsense like DST, everyone would always be on the same page and nobody would ever have to worry about resetting clocks and screwing up sleep patterns. It's archaic, ignorant, and asinine.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 15 March 2016, 11:27:04
I still think it should just be abolished entirely, along with timezones. The Earth's rotation is at the same point no matter what number you slap on it, if we all used a single reference point like GMT/UTC and never changed it due to stupid nonsense like DST, everyone would always be on the same page and nobody would ever have to worry about resetting clocks and screwing up sleep patterns. It's archaic, ignorant, and asinine.

So, you want to abolish time zones; or, Can I call my Uncle Steve? (http://qntm.org/abolish)
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: mrbishop on Tue, 15 March 2016, 11:31:18
idk about getting rid of time zones i'm just saying DST is abit useless and all it does is screw everyone up.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: zombiegristle on Tue, 15 March 2016, 11:31:30
I still think it should just be abolished entirely, along with timezones. The Earth's rotation is at the same point no matter what number you slap on it, if we all used a single reference point like GMT/UTC and never changed it due to stupid nonsense like DST, everyone would always be on the same page and nobody would ever have to worry about resetting clocks and screwing up sleep patterns. It's archaic, ignorant, and asinine.

So, you want to abolish time zones; or, Can I call my Uncle Steve? (http://qntm.org/abolish)

That entire "explanation" seems to have been written by someone who doesn't have the good sense to just ask his relative what are good times to call where he lives. "I'm reachable between 0100-1100" would have saved him all the effort writing, and the cost of a webhost.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:27:30
I still think it should just be abolished entirely, along with timezones. The Earth's rotation is at the same point no matter what number you slap on it, if we all used a single reference point like GMT/UTC and never changed it due to stupid nonsense like DST, everyone would always be on the same page and nobody would ever have to worry about resetting clocks and screwing up sleep patterns. It's archaic, ignorant, and asinine.

So, you want to abolish time zones; or, Can I call my Uncle Steve? (http://qntm.org/abolish)

That entire "explanation" seems to have been written by someone who doesn't have the good sense to just ask his relative what are good times to call where he lives. "I'm reachable between 0100-1100" would have saved him all the effort writing, and the cost of a webhost.

Yeah.  That's like calling your uncle and finding out he works night shift - you should have known that!

Also, the author over-simplifies the "easy" case and over-complicates the "hard" case.  If finding out what time it is in Melbourne with time zones is as easy as googling it, why isn't it equally as easy to find out where the sun is at a given moment (instead of hunting down a webcam :rolleyes: )?  Surely there would be a resource for answering the question "Are most people in this city awake at this time?", no?  The outlined example is really only relevant for the first week of this change, until someone decides "Hey!  I should make a tool to help people out!"