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Title: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: captsis on Tue, 22 March 2016, 02:12:36
I understand he's a troll. but he IS just a troll, right?

I also understand he is pretty influencial in the mech community, running /r/MK and such. He really hates GH for banning him even going lengths to make alt accounts. And also GBs.

I am also on /r/MK and am in no way supporting ripster, but let's face it; the community is a niche within a niche, why take sides and fight?

And does anyone actually KNOW him? or have actual pics besides the joke pics on reddit?
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 22 March 2016, 03:55:30
The politics in the Ripster case works like this.

Ripster put in a great deal of time in the community, from writing the large wiki, to the myriad of education mechanical keyboard posts on the forum..

So, you could imagine that if you as an unpaid individual invested so much of your own time on this endeavor, and have been cast aside, it's deeply hurtful..

I don't believe he responded to the drama as it was unfolding as well as he could. I also think the GH team failed the community by letting things unravel the way it did.

The GH mod/administration is as much at fault for not containing the fallout as ripster was for fueling it.


In the end, because the forum is not owned by ripster, a choice has to be made on part of the moderation team to save face..


And as for Ripster,  as much as a resource he may be,  must be sacrificed so that fundamentally the policy and perception of control of the forum is firm..



On the face of it, your perception is as a third party, and you own nothing, it's all just random text to you.. But there is a system of value/ reputation built on the modern Internet. This had to be preserved.





My own take on the situation is that Geekhack made a serious mistake in letting Ripster go.


The politics of Geekhack is preserved, and people still know who's the boss..  However a King is nothing without effective knights..


I do not believe the current GH administration has fostered the growth of the community to the extent possible.


They can easily say, well hey, we don't have the time,... , well why are you here then, why are you mod,  Ripster had the time, he had the knowledge,  he was willing.. 



But,  overall, we can't expect everyone running forums to be tactical experts.. So things are the way they are..


And here we are today.. 
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: fknraiden on Tue, 22 March 2016, 04:04:16
The politics in the Ripster case works like this.

Ripster put in a great deal of time in the community, from writing the large wiki, to the myriad of education mechanical keyboard posts on the forum..

So, you could imagine that if you as an unpaid individual invested so much of your own time on this endeavor, and have been cast aside, it's deeply hurtful..

I don't believe he responded to the drama as it was unfolding as well as he could. I also think the GH team failed the community by letting things unravel the way it did.

The GH mod/administration is as much at fault for not containing the fallout as ripster was for fueling it.


In the end, because the forum is not owned by ripster, a choice has to be made on part of the moderation team to save face..


And as for Ripster,  as much as a resource he may be,  must be sacrificed so that fundamentally the policy and perception of control of the forum is firm..



On the face of it, your perception is as a third party, and you own nothing, it's all just random text to you.. But there is a system of value/ reputation built on the modern Internet. This had to be preserved.





My own take on the situation is that Geekhack made a serious mistake in letting Ripster go.


The politics of Geekhack is preserved, and people still know who's the boss..  However a King is nothing without effective knights..


I do not believe the current GH administration has fostered the growth of the community to the extent possible.


They can easily say, well hey, we don't have the time,... , well why are you here then, why are you mod,  Ripster had the time, he had the knowledge,  he was willing.. 



But,  overall, we can't expect everyone running forums to be tactical experts.. So things are the way they are..


And here we are today.. 

I haven't bothered to look into the history myself, as it doesn't affect me. From what I've gathered, a bunch of his information provided disappeared. He should have kept his own record. Everything else involving the drama and Geekwhack nonsense I have no opinion on. His "keyboard science" stuff on r/mechanicalkeyboards is cool, but I don't browse it as much as GH compared with other subreddits or r/all.
Edit: I also dont care for his support behind K3KC with free PR
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 22 March 2016, 04:10:04

I haven't bothered to look into the history myself, as it doesn't affect me. From what I've gathered, a bunch of his information provided disappeared. He should have kept his own record. Everything else involving the drama and Geekwhack nonsense I have no opinion on. His "keyboard science" stuff on r/mechanicalkeyboards is cool, but I don't browse it as much as GH compared with other subreddits or r/all.


The exact detail of what was said/ happened doesn't really matter..


It is far more clear to view the situation as who gets what..

Ripster, put in coin to help build the community.

THe GH administration needs Order.

Ripster said, Screw you, I put in the time, I should have some say..

GH administration said, well ok, some say, but not too much..

Ripster said, Screw you, I want all the say...

GH administration is now forced into the position of losing face or losing ripster..


THey decided to Lose Ripster..



If Tp4 was mod,  Tp4 would've been able to save both..   but alas, I was not very active at the time this all occurred...
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: sth on Tue, 22 March 2016, 04:10:25
reported
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 22 March 2016, 04:44:47
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: sitch on Tue, 22 March 2016, 05:06:54
I don't hate him, in fact his writing in mechanical keyboard is pretty resourceful for newbie like me, so no
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Tue, 22 March 2016, 05:21:02
I personally enjoy both R/MK and GH both in their own different layouts and difference in users across both sites.  I haven't had a personal problem with Ripster (Even we we had a personal disagreement when discussing Razer Keyboards he was nothing but polite and civil) but to be truthful i don't know the entire story so i can't make a fair judgement either way.  That said it doesn't effect me personally either way so i continue to enjoy both sites for what they both are.  And truthfully i think that's what everyone needs to do...no matter what happened with GH and Ripster..

Do you enjoy GH? Great! Use it!
Do you enjoy R/MK Great! Use it!

Enjoy both? Even better! Use both!

I see this question come up so often and wish people would just let it die, whatever happened is long since done.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: 1swt2gs on Tue, 22 March 2016, 05:25:54
This question gets asked once a week
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Mechboards on Tue, 22 March 2016, 05:58:09
I think the outcome helps everyone. GH grows as a separate entity as /r/mk. If there was no issue, one would severely hang back compared to the other.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 22 March 2016, 06:12:56
Learn to use the site search. Everything that could be said has already been said about this.

If the site search isn't finding the results you want use Google and specify GH e.g. "site:geekhack.org drama".
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Signature on Tue, 22 March 2016, 06:22:52
Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 22 March 2016, 06:23:53
Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week
I think that's ripster's plan.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 22 March 2016, 07:31:08
I wasn't around at all during that time, but I'm sure tp4tissue is 99% wrong about what happened. Ripster wasn't banned because of forum drama. He was banned for deliberately and repeatedly breaking rules. Think of who has banned from this forum. You'll find it's a fairly short list. There must have been a good reason(s) for it.

Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week

I agree. I know most people just want to forget/ignore it, but keep in mind that there are lots of new members joining this forum (and some older ones who weren't fully aware of what was going on). People are curious by nature and will always keep asking about it.

Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 22 March 2016, 07:48:07
I wasn't around at all during that time, but I'm sure tp4tissue is 99% wrong about what happened. Ripster wasn't banned because of forum drama. He was banned for deliberately and repeatedly breaking rules. Think of who has banned from this forum. You'll find it's a fairly short list. There must have been a good reason(s) for it.

Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week

I agree. I know most people just want to forget/ignore it, but keep in mind that there are lots of new members joining this forum (and some older ones who weren't fully aware of what was going on). People are curious by nature and will always keep asking about it.
But the only new people joining who would even know to ask about ripster are from reddit.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 22 March 2016, 07:49:56
I wasn't around at all during that time, but I'm sure tp4tissue is 99% wrong about what happened. Ripster wasn't banned because of forum drama. He was banned for deliberately and repeatedly breaking rules. Think of who has banned from this forum. You'll find it's a fairly short list. There must have been a good reason(s) for it.

Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week

I agree. I know most people just want to forget/ignore it, but keep in mind that there are lots of new members joining this forum (and some older ones who weren't fully aware of what was going on). People are curious by nature and will always keep asking about it.
But the only new people joining who would even know to ask about ripster are from reddit.

I'm not sure what your point is regarding that.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Signature on Tue, 22 March 2016, 07:52:21
I wasn't around at all during that time, but I'm sure tp4tissue is 99% wrong about what happened. Ripster wasn't banned because of forum drama. He was banned for deliberately and repeatedly breaking rules. Think of who has banned from this forum. You'll find it's a fairly short list. There must have been a good reason(s) for it.

Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week

I agree. I know most people just want to forget/ignore it, but keep in mind that there are lots of new members joining this forum (and some older ones who weren't fully aware of what was going on). People are curious by nature and will always keep asking about it.
But the only new people joining who would even know to ask about ripster are from reddit.

I'm not sure what your point is regarding that.
It means they have a biased opinion. Ripster is playing the victim over there and thinks that GH hates him. However no one on GH actually cares about him
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 22 March 2016, 07:54:14

Ripster put in a great deal of time in the community, from writing the large wiki, to the myriad of education mechanical keyboard posts on the forum..

So, you could imagine that if you as an unpaid individual invested so much of your own time on this endeavor, and have been cast aside, it's deeply hurtful..

My own take on the situation is that Geekhack made a serious mistake in letting Ripster go.


The first part is true, Ripster contributed a vast amount of information to this forum and built an amazing set of wikis, and I gladly acknowledge that his work is the foundation of my own keyboard knowledge. He was helpful and friendly to me and to others, and was generally highly respected around here.

However, characterizations such as "cast aside" and "letting Ripster go" could not possibly be more inaccurate. He is entirely responsible for the consequences of his actions, both before and after the "r00tw0rm" debacle (which has never been conclusively proven to be his doing, as I always acknowledge, but whoever did do it is a truly horrible person).

In his final weeks and months here he seemed to become unhinged, ****-posting literally thousands of posts, and making myriad cruel and personal attacks on members and moderators alike. He never attacked me, personally, I might add.

He was warned repeatedly and respectfully here and on DT alike, but his behavior became ever angrier and uglier and eventually reached a tipping point from which there was no recovery.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: mobbo on Tue, 22 March 2016, 08:27:14
The first part is true, Ripster contributed a vast amount of information to this forum and built an amazing set of wikis, and I gladly acknowledge that his work is the foundation of my own keyboard knowledge. He was helpful and friendly to me and to others, and was generally highly respected around here.

However, characterizations such as "cast aside" and "letting Ripster go" could not possibly be more inaccurate. He is entirely responsible for the consequences of his actions, both before and after the "r00tw0rm" debacle (which has never been conclusively proven to be his doing, as I always acknowledge, but whoever did do it is a truly horrible person).

In his final weeks and months here he seemed to become unhinged, ****-posting literally thousands of posts, and making myriad cruel and personal attacks on members and moderators alike. He never attacked me, personally, I might add.

He was warned repeatedly and respectfully here and on DT alike, but his behavior became ever angrier and uglier and eventually reached a tipping point from which there was no recovery.

Thank you for a very level headed response to a very silly question. Hate is a strong word, and I feel like people get swept up in the pettiness narrative.

I don't hate anyone in this hobby. I've never met them and until they give me a reason to, I'll always give them the benefit of the doubt. Ripster has historically rubbed some people in the wrong places - he's also helped countless people get into this hobby and provide them with tons of information. He loves keyboards, that much is obvious.

Regardless of his apparent grudge with GH, or how the members here view him - there is a code of conduct on every forum I have every visited, or in GH's case a "Terms of Service."  It's literally a moderator's job to warn/ban where appropriate. To make it into some kind of personal vendetta is silly, even if it may come across that way. He was banned for his actions, not his personality.

I wasn't around during this time either, but I do know that the answer to the drama is often more boring than people want to believe. As I understand it, he was banned for breaching the Terms of the forum (and on DT for similar reasons). It doesn't matter what the context is now surrounding Ripster's view towards GH, or vice versa. It's irrelevant. He's found a venue to continue his passion, where he is not personally attacking members here, and where he can moderate and control the content.

IMO it's a win-win for everyone.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: beehatch on Tue, 22 March 2016, 08:51:14
I know he loves me so that's all that matters  :))
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 22 March 2016, 08:59:27

the drama is often more boring than people want to believe.

IMO it's a win-win for everyone.


The drama was not boring at all. It was painful and protracted and embarrassing and it ended very badly.

And it was anything but win-win. Ripster might have "won" but Geekhack suffered a near-mortal blow from which it has never fully recovered because no one will hardly even dare to begin rebuilding the wikis and guides.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: frosty on Tue, 22 March 2016, 09:10:58
Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week
I think that's ripster's plan.

i feel enlightened.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: mobbo on Tue, 22 March 2016, 09:12:18

the drama is often more boring than people want to believe.

IMO it's a win-win for everyone.


The drama was not boring at all. It was painful and protracted and embarrassing and it ended very badly.

And it was anything but win-win. Ripster might have "won" but Geekhack suffered a near-mortal blow from which it has never fully recovered because no one will hardly even dare to begin rebuilding the wikis and guides.

I guess my comment was more that the "reason" behind the current drama is boring, not the drama at the time. Sorry.

 I feel like people want to keep digging and find some juicy piece of information about the "breakup" when it's already been clearly stated that he was simply banned. I'm sure it was chaos at the time, and fortunately I wasn't here to witness it. I just find it fascinating that people are so interested to find out the cause/reason for this whole Ripster vs. GH thing, and often times the explanation they are given is not enough for them.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 22 March 2016, 10:58:07
mrw OP is actually ripster.....




I wouldn't say I hate ripster, even though he loves talking **** about me in his keyboardcirclejerk sub, and on r/mk at times. I joined GH right when he was on his way out. I had a chance to speak to him through PM's
when he started acting a fool on GH. I remember mentioning that I thought his contributions to the community were really helpful, but that his attitude was poor. From what I experienced, it looked to me as though his
ego inflated with his popularity, and felt entitled to being a complete **** to people on here. If he had a disagreement with the management here, it shouldn't have spilled over into acting out publicly about it in an immature
way.


It's no surprise that he as banned from every keyboard forum since then, so this wasn't an isolated incident just with geekhack, but a matter of his behavior (self-inflated ego) in general.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 March 2016, 11:53:11
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:02:37
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.


He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:07:09
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.


He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.

He hates gh so much this thread, and possibly our replies, will be on his subforum. And he will claim we are his sock puppet accounts.

HI RIPPY. :*
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:08:42
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.


He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.

He hates gh so much this thread, and possibly our replies, will be on his subforum. And he will claim we are his sock puppet accounts.

HI RIPPY. :*


2late (https://www.reddit.com/r/keyboardcirclejerk/comments/4bhvc6/why_do_people_hate_ripster/)
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:15:33
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.


If someone  tried to hurt your abuelita..  how would you feel..

Ripster may not have had many things dear to him in his life, which is why he held so close his affiliations with geekhack..

He can't let go, not so simply because he may petty.. There is love he put into the system.. much more than perhaps the other things in his life.. 


It is worth it for him to cling.. and that's the end of the story,  we are not him, and therefore we can not be judge.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: beehatch on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:16:13
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.


He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.

He hates gh so much this thread, and possibly our replies, will be on his subforum. And he will claim we are his sock puppet accounts.

HI RIPPY. :*


2late (https://www.reddit.com/r/keyboardcirclejerk/comments/4bhvc6/why_do_people_hate_ripster/)

He was pretty slow on posting that tbh, I expect better.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:19:51
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.


If someone  tried to hurt your abuelita..  how would you feel..

Ripster may not have had many things dear to him in his life, which is why he held so close his affiliations with geekhack..

He can't let go, not so simply because he may petty.. There is love he put into the system.. much more than perhaps the other things in his life.. 


It is worth it for him to cling.. and that's the end of the story,  we are not him, and therefore we can not be judge.


(http://i.imgur.com/D9DnjpI.gif)
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:22:15
Reddit is proof that a forum is only worth its amount of content..

GH has not been generating content....


This is the issue..   Ripster is an explosion of keyboard stuff...    No other single person has been able to replace him..

Yea there's gonna be alot of silly-posts,   but they're posts nontheless....  and among the silly ones, are good ones..


You remove Ripster,   and now here we just have emptiness..



Everyday, Tp4 has to come up with random things to post to fill the void in the OT forum...   

It wasn't always like this..   there was a much more lively community prior to the Cataclysm
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:25:14


GH has not been generating content....




No, we have been generating gigabytes of TP4 topics.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:27:47
Reddit is proof that a forum is only worth its amount of content..

GH has not been generating content....


This is the issue..   Ripster is an explosion of keyboard stuff...    No other single person has been able to replace him..

Yea there's gonna be alot of silly-posts,   but they're posts nontheless....  and among the silly ones, are good ones..


You remove Ripster,   and now here we just have emptiness..



Everyday, Tp4 has to come up with random things to post to fill the void in the OT forum...   

It wasn't always like this..   there was a much more lively community prior to the Cataclysm

Look, reddit is not a traditional forum. Because of the way that it handles content, nothing will be around for more than a few days, as new posts replace old posts. On a traditional forum (like GH) the same threads are always around and become immediately relevant when "bumped." This is not an option on reddit.

We cannot compare reddit to GH because it they don't even use the same format. Try comparing GH to DT instead. Posting a new thread in Off-Topic every day is pointless. You can bump up any thread you want and restart discussions there (unless you want to talk about something new, at which point go ahead and make a new thread).
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: widdlekitty on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:30:57
In my personal experience, the largest difference between /r/mk and GH is this place's sense of community. Maybe its just the nature of reddit, but everything on /r/mk is so fleeting and focused on the consumption of media, that discourse tends to take a backseat. You never really get to know that many people there, either through your own or watching the conversations of others.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: widdlekitty on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:32:06
Reddit is proof that a forum is only worth its amount of content..

GH has not been generating content....


This is the issue..   Ripster is an explosion of keyboard stuff...    No other single person has been able to replace him..

Yea there's gonna be alot of silly-posts,   but they're posts nontheless....  and among the silly ones, are good ones..


You remove Ripster,   and now here we just have emptiness..



Everyday, Tp4 has to come up with random things to post to fill the void in the OT forum...   

It wasn't always like this..   there was a much more lively community prior to the Cataclysm

Look, reddit is not a traditional forum. Because of the way that it handles content, nothing will be around for more than a few days, as new posts replace old posts. On a traditional forum (like GH) the same threads are always around and become immediately relevant when "bumped." This is not an option on reddit.

We cannot compare reddit to GH because it they don't even use the same format. Try comparing GH to DT instead. Posting a new thread in Off-Topic every day is pointless. You can bump up any thread you want and restart discussions there (unless you want to talk about something new, at which point go ahead and make a new thread).
:thumb:
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 March 2016, 12:42:24
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.


He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.

He hates gh so much this thread, and possibly our replies, will be on his subforum. And he will claim we are his sock puppet accounts.

HI RIPPY. :*


2late (https://www.reddit.com/r/keyboardcirclejerk/comments/4bhvc6/why_do_people_hate_ripster/)

He was pretty slow on posting that tbh, I expect better.
He's losing his step
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: captsis on Tue, 22 March 2016, 13:19:49
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)

Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 22 March 2016, 13:27:14
I personally don't mind him when he's making some informative posts. I've been there many times for resources and guides. I just don't like it when GH has a small hiccup he loves to point at us and tell everyone about it.

Though lately he hasn't done it as much as he used to.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Vittra on Tue, 22 March 2016, 13:34:27
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

Show Image
(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)


Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and purported threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of said data.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 22 March 2016, 13:35:26
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

Show Image
(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)


Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 March 2016, 13:54:47
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

Show Image
(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)


Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:01:29
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.

Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:05:38
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: digi on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:07:20
To sum it up I'll provide you with a sample output during a typical day at GH, when Ripster was a member:

*User Posts new Thread
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Another GH member replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:07:20
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.

I highly doubt this was the case. And in regards to a true 'wiki', it's public domain.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: beehatch on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:10:15
To sum it up I'll provide you with a sample output during a typical day at GH, when Ripster was a member:

*User Posts new Thread
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Another GH member replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies

that's basically /r/mk

ripster needs to go rip already
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:10:37
U
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.

I highly doubt this was the case. And in regards to a true 'wiki', it's public domain.

I was a mod when it was happening. And kawa was the lead "I'm going to ban him, let's take all the content we can" dude. Even if the wiki is public domain ( and ripster did take **** and no credit it either) I was a stupid decision.

IMO at least.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:11:03
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.
Oh come on demik, you know that's bull****. I know you love rippy and hate the mods here, but you can't seriously defend his actions during that time. He baited the mods to force their hands, and iMav made the decision to permaban. It's that simple.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Michael on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:15:58
U
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.

I highly doubt this was the case. And in regards to a true 'wiki', it's public domain.

I was a mod when it was happening. And kawa was the lead "I'm going to ban him, let's take all the content we can" dude. Even if the wiki is public domain ( and ripster did take **** and no credit it either) I was a stupid decision.

IMO at least.

If this was the case, then it should have been a 'let's hate this person and this person for banning me', not 'I hate geekhack as a whole'. But yeah, a true wiki is not personal property, but an open source sharing of information.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:17:05
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.
Oh come on demik, you know that's bull****. I know you love rippy and hate the mods here, but you can't seriously defend his actions during that time. He baited the mods to force their hands, and iMav made the decision to permaban. It's that simple.

I love ripster? lol nah. Do I think how butt hurt he gets and gh gets is funny? Yes. I'm not excusing **** he did. I'm saying I understand why he's mad. Ripster is an *******, there is no doubt about it. And gh went down to his level when they banned him only to steal his content. KAWA LITERALLY SAID "IM GOING TO BAN HIM. TAKE ALL THE CONTENT YOU CAN".

My hate for mods has zero to do with this, why bring it up?
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:22:17
U
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.

I highly doubt this was the case. And in regards to a true 'wiki', it's public domain.

I was a mod when it was happening. And kawa was the lead "I'm going to ban him, let's take all the content we can" dude. Even if the wiki is public domain ( and ripster did take **** and no credit it either) I was a stupid decision.

IMO at least.

If this was the case, then it should have been a 'let's hate this person and this person for banning me', not 'I hate geekhack as a whole'. But yeah, a true wiki is not personal property, but an open source sharing of information.

Any rational person gets that. But this is ripster we are dealing with. Don't expect too much from dude.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: jbondeson on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:22:40
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.

Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.

To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.

[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:25:54
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.

Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.

To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.

[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)

Ooo, so this is probably why he watermarks his photos.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: captsis on Tue, 22 March 2016, 15:27:03
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.

Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.

To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.

[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)

Would anything really happen if he did go through with the DMCA? Everyone has already said how a wiki is public domain. And its just one user (who explicitly violated site ToS) against the entire ****ing forum? what does it matter if it was posted anyways? Yea its a real douchebag move to steal his content, but its not like the forum is supporting illegitament products for monetary gain (ahem, MiTo). And again, its public domain right??
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: Signature on Tue, 22 March 2016, 15:37:45
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.

Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.

To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.

[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)
funny cause he steals pictures at a daily basis at r/mk
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: widdlekitty on Tue, 22 March 2016, 15:38:59
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.

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Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?

The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.

I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.

Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.

To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.

[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)

Would anything really happen if he did go through with the DMCA? Everyone has already said how a wiki is public domain. And its just one user (who explicitly violated site ToS) against the entire ****ing forum? what does it matter if it was posted anyways? Yea its a real douchebag move to steal his content, but its not like the forum is supporting illegitament products for monetary gain (ahem, MiTo). And again, its public domain right??

I imagine it just wouldn't have been worth it, if he was true to his word about filing legal action. Legal fees add up quickly.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: jbondeson on Tue, 22 March 2016, 16:47:44

Would anything really happen if he did go through with the DMCA?  [...]

Technically ripster committed copyfraud by issuing a false DMCA notice since CC-BY is non-revokable meaning GH had a valid license. Copyfraud is a criminal offense so if iMav wanted the headache he could have pursued the matter.

The reality is there was nothing to gain by doing so, and rootworm had destroyed the wiki anyway.

Just remember kids: licenses have terms, and summoning the DMCA Demons should not be done lightly.
Title: Re: Why do people hate ripster?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 23 March 2016, 05:02:44
Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week
I think that's ripster's plan.

Every time his name is mentioned his spirit lives on a little longer.