The politics in the Ripster case works like this.
Ripster put in a great deal of time in the community, from writing the large wiki, to the myriad of education mechanical keyboard posts on the forum..
So, you could imagine that if you as an unpaid individual invested so much of your own time on this endeavor, and have been cast aside, it's deeply hurtful..
I don't believe he responded to the drama as it was unfolding as well as he could. I also think the GH team failed the community by letting things unravel the way it did.
The GH mod/administration is as much at fault for not containing the fallout as ripster was for fueling it.
In the end, because the forum is not owned by ripster, a choice has to be made on part of the moderation team to save face..
And as for Ripster, as much as a resource he may be, must be sacrificed so that fundamentally the policy and perception of control of the forum is firm..
On the face of it, your perception is as a third party, and you own nothing, it's all just random text to you.. But there is a system of value/ reputation built on the modern Internet. This had to be preserved.
My own take on the situation is that Geekhack made a serious mistake in letting Ripster go.
The politics of Geekhack is preserved, and people still know who's the boss.. However a King is nothing without effective knights..
I do not believe the current GH administration has fostered the growth of the community to the extent possible.
They can easily say, well hey, we don't have the time,... , well why are you here then, why are you mod, Ripster had the time, he had the knowledge, he was willing..
But, overall, we can't expect everyone running forums to be tactical experts.. So things are the way they are..
And here we are today..
I haven't bothered to look into the history myself, as it doesn't affect me. From what I've gathered, a bunch of his information provided disappeared. He should have kept his own record. Everything else involving the drama and Geekwhack nonsense I have no opinion on. His "keyboard science" stuff on r/mechanicalkeyboards is cool, but I don't browse it as much as GH compared with other subreddits or r/all.
Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a weekI think that's ripster's plan.
Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week
I wasn't around at all during that time, but I'm sure tp4tissue is 99% wrong about what happened. Ripster wasn't banned because of forum drama. He was banned for deliberately and repeatedly breaking rules. Think of who has banned from this forum. You'll find it's a fairly short list. There must have been a good reason(s) for it.But the only new people joining who would even know to ask about ripster are from reddit.Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week
I agree. I know most people just want to forget/ignore it, but keep in mind that there are lots of new members joining this forum (and some older ones who weren't fully aware of what was going on). People are curious by nature and will always keep asking about it.
I wasn't around at all during that time, but I'm sure tp4tissue is 99% wrong about what happened. Ripster wasn't banned because of forum drama. He was banned for deliberately and repeatedly breaking rules. Think of who has banned from this forum. You'll find it's a fairly short list. There must have been a good reason(s) for it.But the only new people joining who would even know to ask about ripster are from reddit.Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week
I agree. I know most people just want to forget/ignore it, but keep in mind that there are lots of new members joining this forum (and some older ones who weren't fully aware of what was going on). People are curious by nature and will always keep asking about it.
It means they have a biased opinion. Ripster is playing the victim over there and thinks that GH hates him. However no one on GH actually cares about himI wasn't around at all during that time, but I'm sure tp4tissue is 99% wrong about what happened. Ripster wasn't banned because of forum drama. He was banned for deliberately and repeatedly breaking rules. Think of who has banned from this forum. You'll find it's a fairly short list. There must have been a good reason(s) for it.But the only new people joining who would even know to ask about ripster are from reddit.Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a week
I agree. I know most people just want to forget/ignore it, but keep in mind that there are lots of new members joining this forum (and some older ones who weren't fully aware of what was going on). People are curious by nature and will always keep asking about it.
I'm not sure what your point is regarding that.
Ripster put in a great deal of time in the community, from writing the large wiki, to the myriad of education mechanical keyboard posts on the forum..
So, you could imagine that if you as an unpaid individual invested so much of your own time on this endeavor, and have been cast aside, it's deeply hurtful..
My own take on the situation is that Geekhack made a serious mistake in letting Ripster go.
The first part is true, Ripster contributed a vast amount of information to this forum and built an amazing set of wikis, and I gladly acknowledge that his work is the foundation of my own keyboard knowledge. He was helpful and friendly to me and to others, and was generally highly respected around here.
However, characterizations such as "cast aside" and "letting Ripster go" could not possibly be more inaccurate. He is entirely responsible for the consequences of his actions, both before and after the "r00tw0rm" debacle (which has never been conclusively proven to be his doing, as I always acknowledge, but whoever did do it is a truly horrible person).
In his final weeks and months here he seemed to become unhinged, ****-posting literally thousands of posts, and making myriad cruel and personal attacks on members and moderators alike. He never attacked me, personally, I might add.
He was warned repeatedly and respectfully here and on DT alike, but his behavior became ever angrier and uglier and eventually reached a tipping point from which there was no recovery.
the drama is often more boring than people want to believe.
IMO it's a win-win for everyone.
Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a weekI think that's ripster's plan.
the drama is often more boring than people want to believe.
IMO it's a win-win for everyone.
The drama was not boring at all. It was painful and protracted and embarrassing and it ended very badly.
And it was anything but win-win. Ripster might have "won" but Geekhack suffered a near-mortal blow from which it has never fully recovered because no one will hardly even dare to begin rebuilding the wikis and guides.
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.
He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.
He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.
He hates gh so much this thread, and possibly our replies, will be on his subforum. And he will claim we are his sock puppet accounts.
HI RIPPY. :*
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.
He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.
He hates gh so much this thread, and possibly our replies, will be on his subforum. And he will claim we are his sock puppet accounts.
HI RIPPY. :*
2late (https://www.reddit.com/r/keyboardcirclejerk/comments/4bhvc6/why_do_people_hate_ripster/)
He's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.
If someone tried to hurt your abuelita.. how would you feel..
Ripster may not have had many things dear to him in his life, which is why he held so close his affiliations with geekhack..
He can't let go, not so simply because he may petty.. There is love he put into the system.. much more than perhaps the other things in his life..
It is worth it for him to cling.. and that's the end of the story, we are not him, and therefore we can not be judge.
GH has not been generating content....
Reddit is proof that a forum is only worth its amount of content..
GH has not been generating content....
This is the issue.. Ripster is an explosion of keyboard stuff... No other single person has been able to replace him..
Yea there's gonna be alot of silly-posts, but they're posts nontheless.... and among the silly ones, are good ones..
You remove Ripster, and now here we just have emptiness..
Everyday, Tp4 has to come up with random things to post to fill the void in the OT forum...
It wasn't always like this.. there was a much more lively community prior to the Cataclysm
:thumb:Reddit is proof that a forum is only worth its amount of content..
GH has not been generating content....
This is the issue.. Ripster is an explosion of keyboard stuff... No other single person has been able to replace him..
Yea there's gonna be alot of silly-posts, but they're posts nontheless.... and among the silly ones, are good ones..
You remove Ripster, and now here we just have emptiness..
Everyday, Tp4 has to come up with random things to post to fill the void in the OT forum...
It wasn't always like this.. there was a much more lively community prior to the Cataclysm
Look, reddit is not a traditional forum. Because of the way that it handles content, nothing will be around for more than a few days, as new posts replace old posts. On a traditional forum (like GH) the same threads are always around and become immediately relevant when "bumped." This is not an option on reddit.
We cannot compare reddit to GH because it they don't even use the same format. Try comparing GH to DT instead. Posting a new thread in Off-Topic every day is pointless. You can bump up any thread you want and restart discussions there (unless you want to talk about something new, at which point go ahead and make a new thread).
He's losing his stepHe's probably not a bad guy tbh. He just can't let **** go and it's quite pathetic at his age. And it's funny when he tells other people to get over it when he has been holding a multiple year long grudge. But, with the **** GH tried to do I don't fully blame him.
He hates geekhack so much, that he tries coming back on a daily basis with alt accounts.
He hates gh so much this thread, and possibly our replies, will be on his subforum. And he will claim we are his sock puppet accounts.
HI RIPPY. :*
2late (https://www.reddit.com/r/keyboardcirclejerk/comments/4bhvc6/why_do_people_hate_ripster/)
He was pretty slow on posting that tbh, I expect better.
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
To sum it up I'll provide you with a sample output during a typical day at GH, when Ripster was a member:
*User Posts new Thread
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
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*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Another GH member replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
*Ripster replies
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Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
I highly doubt this was the case. And in regards to a true 'wiki', it's public domain.
Oh come on demik, you know that's bull****. I know you love rippy and hate the mods here, but you can't seriously defend his actions during that time. He baited the mods to force their hands, and iMav made the decision to permaban. It's that simple.Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
UBecause the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
I highly doubt this was the case. And in regards to a true 'wiki', it's public domain.
I was a mod when it was happening. And kawa was the lead "I'm going to ban him, let's take all the content we can" dude. Even if the wiki is public domain ( and ripster did take **** and no credit it either) I was a stupid decision.
IMO at least.
Oh come on demik, you know that's bull****. I know you love rippy and hate the mods here, but you can't seriously defend his actions during that time. He baited the mods to force their hands, and iMav made the decision to permaban. It's that simple.Because the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
UBecause the mods banned him so they could steal the content. Which is a bull**** move and I could see why rip was mad.No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
I highly doubt this was the case. And in regards to a true 'wiki', it's public domain.
I was a mod when it was happening. And kawa was the lead "I'm going to ban him, let's take all the content we can" dude. Even if the wiki is public domain ( and ripster did take **** and no credit it either) I was a stupid decision.
IMO at least.
If this was the case, then it should have been a 'let's hate this person and this person for banning me', not 'I hate geekhack as a whole'. But yeah, a true wiki is not personal property, but an open source sharing of information.
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.
To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.
[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.
To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.
[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)
funny cause he steals pictures at a daily basis at r/mkNo, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.
To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.
[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)
No, he demanded that it be removed, on threat of legal action.Yeah sorry about the unintentional ****posting... Therefore I will leave this here.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/KqLPb0IrGHwiY.gif)
Just a question, dont the mods have archives of his wikis? or do they just not want to be disrespectful?
The mods removed all his wiki information as per his direct request (and threat of legal action). There would be no reason to keep archives of the data.
I thought the Wiki was just completely deleted by r00tworm?
Oh that's rich, with how much he talks **** about artisans wanting to protect their IP.
To be specific he sent an email to iMav[1] indicating he was rescinding his CC-BY licensing on his images (which is actually non-revocable [2]) and invoked the DMCA.
[1] https://deskthority.net/post68378.html#p68378
[2] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F (https://creativecommons.org/faq/#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F)
Would anything really happen if he did go through with the DMCA? Everyone has already said how a wiki is public domain. And its just one user (who explicitly violated site ToS) against the entire ****ing forum? what does it matter if it was posted anyways? Yea its a real douchebag move to steal his content, but its not like the forum is supporting illegitament products for monetary gain (ahem, MiTo). And again, its public domain right??
Would anything really happen if he did go through with the DMCA? [...]
Feels like the ripster thingy should be a sticky... Gets asked like once a weekI think that's ripster's plan.