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What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
just do it punk
What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
just do it punk
What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
It wouldn't be an HHKB anymore.
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What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
couldn't tell you. i love 55g, but i think what makes it great is the metal plate. i have no idea how it feels on the hhkb's case mounted plastic.
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What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
It wouldn't be an HHKB anymore.
Fair enough :))just do it punk
What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
couldn't tell you. i love 55g, but i think what makes it great is the metal plate. i have no idea how it feels on the hhkb's case mounted plastic.
Gotcha. What's your opinion of the plate-mounted versus case-mounted when it comes to Topre?
You could check out my review describing my "conversion" to HHKB:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48804.0
Since that time, my favorite board is still the HHKB, but modified by installing Silencing Rings and lubing the stabilizers and switch rails with SuperLube 51010 oil.
My next-favorite boards are the RF87UB55, RF87UB45, V60MTS-C, and IBM XT (Model F).
The RF boards sound and feel more solid than the HHKB. The RFs have plate-mounted switches, whereas the HHKB has case-mounted switches. The RF seems more refined, but the HHKB is more fun.
I've also modded an HHKB by installing 55g domes, but I tend to prefer the standard 45g domes.
Overall, I prefer the 60% form factor to larger boards, and I prefer the HHKB layout to any other. When I use other boards, I remap them to something as close as possible to the HHKB layout.
Another nice thing about either the HHKB or the RF is the keycaps. Not only do they look and feel good, but they are highly functional. They are designed to form a unified functional unit with the switch. This is quite different with Cherry mx switches, for example, where different keycap sets can make a major difference in the sound and feel of the board because of differences in thickness, weight, and dimensions -- such as the relative length of the stem and skirt of the cap.
Having said all this, it comes down to your preferences. You will have to check out the RF and HHKB boards for yourself.
You can buy RF and HHKB from Elitekeyboards.com. They can also be found on Amazon and eBay, and sometimes through keyboard forums such as Geekhack or Deskthority.
Depends on how picky you are with the typing expirience?This is brilliant.
The thing with Topre is that the hype is insane, the board could not satisfy your expectations first but then you will use it anyway because you have burned so much money on it. Then it may slowly grow to you and you will then see how superior it is when you type on a cherry board again.
These are all maybes, I personally was totally sold to my HHKB and after silencing it... just superior cup rubber!
You should consider buying a Type-S, after years of typing on a silenced HHKB I don't like the stock feel anymore.
Rowdy is right, the stock feet are crap, therefore I've made my own out of a old mousepad. The HHKB feels rock solid now:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KuSm3L1.jpg)
(Attachment Link)Your wrist rest looks nice, but try it on your lap for a week or so. Speed, accuracy, and comfort galore. It's even quieter, too.
I own both...and initially i was like...forget this i want to use my RF 87U 55G more...but i found myself switching back to the HHKB constantly due to the easy to use layout (once you are used to it) and the 45G switches are more comfortable over long periods of usage. Plus the removable cable is a huge hugeee win in my book personally when combined with a right angle mini USB adapter. Honestly i'm probably going to buy a second HHKB soon either a white one or a Type-S.
TLDR: initially i didn't like the HHKB thought i wasted my money...fast forward now i prefer it over my RF.
P.S i highly recommend the SLIM glorious wrist rest it's perfectly height oriented still fairly stiff and more comfortable than any wood wrist rest i have used. The PFU official blue esc/red control keycaps look great also and helped me learn the placement of control over being used to caps lock real quick. Also the right angle mini USB adapter makes cable routing easy since the board has none by default (one of my only real complaints about it)
1. Clears are slightly heavier than BS, both are much heavier than HHKB. I like heavier switches, but keep coming back to my HHKB.
2. Get both - use them separately. Otherwise you'd have to get both and destroy a 55g RealForce to salvage 55g domes to rape your HHKB.
3. HHKB is reasonably sturdy, but not bulletproof. Some say it slides around a lot as it is so light - put a sheet of folded drawer liner under it, or stick some rubber feet to stop it sliding.
You could check out my review describing my "conversion" to HHKB:How much lube is needed for a full board? I want to do this.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48804.0
Since that time, my favorite board is still the HHKB, but modified by installing Silencing Rings and lubing the stabilizers and switch rails with SuperLube 51010 oil.
My next-favorite boards are the RF87UB55, RF87UB45, V60MTS-C, and IBM XT (Model F).
The RF boards sound and feel more solid than the HHKB. The RFs have plate-mounted switches, whereas the HHKB has case-mounted switches. The RF seems more refined, but the HHKB is more fun.
I've also modded an HHKB by installing 55g domes, but I tend to prefer the standard 45g domes.
Overall, I prefer the 60% form factor to larger boards, and I prefer the HHKB layout to any other. When I use other boards, I remap them to something as close as possible to the HHKB layout.
Another nice thing about either the HHKB or the RF is the keycaps. Not only do they look and feel good, but they are highly functional. They are designed to form a unified functional unit with the switch. This is quite different with Cherry mx switches, for example, where different keycap sets can make a major difference in the sound and feel of the board because of differences in thickness, weight, and dimensions -- such as the relative length of the stem and skirt of the cap.
Having said all this, it comes down to your preferences. You will have to check out the RF and HHKB boards for yourself.
You can buy RF and HHKB from Elitekeyboards.com. They can also be found on Amazon and eBay, and sometimes through keyboard forums such as Geekhack or Deskthority.
Depends on how picky you are with the typing expirience?
The thing with Topre is that the hype is insane, the board could not satisfy your expectations first but then you will use it anyway because you have burned so much money on it. Then it may slowly grow to you and you will then see how superior it is when you type on a cherry board again.
These are all maybes, I personally was totally sold to my HHKB and after silencing it... just superior cup rubber!
You should consider buying a Type-S, after years of typing on a silenced HHKB I don't like the stock feel anymore.
Rowdy is right, the stock feet are crap, therefore I've made my own out of a old mousepad. The HHKB feels rock solid now:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KuSm3L1.jpg)
I absolutely love my HHKB Pro 2. It is a joy to type on, and the quality is superb. I have not had the opportunity to use a RF 55g keyboard, and I get the feeling that I would like the 55g switches, but the HHKB Topres are really awesome.
Depends on how picky you are with the typing expirience?That looks surprisingly good imo
The thing with Topre is that the hype is insane, the board could not satisfy your expectations first but then you will use it anyway because you have burned so much money on it. Then it may slowly grow to you and you will then see how superior it is when you type on a cherry board again.
These are all maybes, I personally was totally sold to my HHKB and after silencing it... just superior cup rubber!
You should consider buying a Type-S, after years of typing on a silenced HHKB I don't like the stock feel anymore.
Rowdy is right, the stock feet are crap, therefore I've made my own out of a old mousepad. The HHKB feels rock solid now:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KuSm3L1.jpg)
1. Clears are slightly heavier than BS, both are much heavier than HHKB. I like heavier switches, but keep coming back to my HHKB.
2. Get both - use them separately. Otherwise you'd have to get both and destroy a 55g RealForce to salvage 55g domes to rape your HHKB.
3. HHKB is reasonably sturdy, but not bulletproof. Some say it slides around a lot as it is so light - put a sheet of folded drawer liner under it, or stick some rubber feet to stop it sliding.
Thanks Rowdy for the info!
I also like heavier switches which is the main reason I keep debating the 55g Realforce versus the 45g HHKB. It sounds like the majority of folks who enjoy heavier switches still thoroughly enjoy the 45g HHKB.
So there is no way of purchasing the 55g domes separately to modify the HHKB? One would have to harvest the domes from the Realforce huh?
It's great that you mentioned the HHKB sliding around - this has crossed my mind on a few occasions when looking into the HHKB. Again thanks for the info!
1. How comparable the 44g topre switches are to BS or mx-clear?
2. Is it worth it to get the Realforce for 55g switches? How easy is it to modify the HHKB to 55g?
3. Construction of the HHKB - is the HHKB sturdy? It looks a bit light although I could judging poorly.
4. Construction of the Realforce - Looks heavier/sturdier than the HHKB, amirite?
5. Where to buy either HHKB or Realforce?
I don't mean to take this offtopic but figured people chiming in here may have the best answers.
Is there a large difference between the HHKB and the FC660C other than form factor and layout?
Just wanted people's opinions regarding the pros and cons if you compared the two. Thanks!
I don't mean to take this offtopic but figured people chiming in here may have the best answers.
Is there a large difference between the HHKB and the FC660C other than form factor and layout?
Just wanted people's opinions regarding the pros and cons if you compared the two. Thanks!
Besides the form factor and layout you already mentioned there is one other major difference.
the FC660c uses plate mounted 45G topre and the HHKB uses case mounted 45G Topre it makes a large difference both in feeling and sound profile (and weight of the overall keyboard) Personally i vastly prefer the 45G feeling on the case mounting of the HHKB to 45g plate mounted and the HHKB is way way way lighter making it easier to travel with or move around.
I don't mean to take this offtopic but figured people chiming in here may have the best answers.
Is there a large difference between the HHKB and the FC660C other than form factor and layout?
Just wanted people's opinions regarding the pros and cons if you compared the two. Thanks!
Besides the form factor and layout you already mentioned there is one other major difference.
the FC660c uses plate mounted 45G topre and the HHKB uses case mounted 45G Topre it makes a large difference both in feeling and sound profile (and weight of the overall keyboard) Personally i vastly prefer the 45G feeling on the case mounting of the HHKB to 45g plate mounted and the HHKB is way way way lighter making it easier to travel with or move around.
Ah ok, I didn't know about the two being mounted differently. If you had to how would you explain how they feel differently?
Yes. 100x yes. 45g in the HHKB was way too light for me. But...that's me.just do it punk
What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
No JUST NOYes. 100x yes. 45g in the HHKB was way too light for me. But...that's me.just do it punk
What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
No JUST NOYes. 100x yes. 45g in the HHKB was way too light for me. But...that's me.just do it punk
What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
55g feels too mushy on hhkb
Virgin hhkb best hhkb
Yes tru hhkb is perfectNo JUST NOYes. 100x yes. 45g in the HHKB was way too light for me. But...that's me.just do it punk
What do you think about modifying the HHKB to 55g? Worth it?
55g feels too mushy on hhkb
Virgin hhkb best hhkb
While i have no tried a 55G dome in a HHKB yet i had owned a 55G RF 87U and while the switch did have slightly more snap to it i personally felt they became too fatiguing over long usage and ended up selling it just recently. The case mounted 45G have just the right feel and sound to them that is divine to me personally.
just buy the one that looks cooler :))
I'd go with the realforce 55g to be honest but thats only because I use the windows key and caps lock.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Qs8Jlfa.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tSoniJT.jpg)
just buy the one that looks cooler :))
I'd go with the realforce 55g to be honest but thats only because I use the windows key and caps lock.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Qs8Jlfa.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tSoniJT.jpg)
Great looking topres you have there! Honestly I never use the caps lock key whereas the control I use all the dang time, hence why I'm leaning toward the HHKB. Just curious, what program requires that you use caps frequently and repetitiously enough to require the caps lock key versus shift? I've noticed that many folks absolutely have to have a caps lock key on their board, whereas others (like myself) never use it.
I say try the HHKB if you want to adjust to the layout, which does not really take very long.
Been using mine for 6 years now.
There is also the hasu TMK alternate controller for the HHKB, which basically turns it into a fully programmable keyboard and bluetooth connectivity.
Had this for about a year and it is great.
I did have a quick stunt with a Realforce 87U 55g for a couple weeks but eventually sold it, did not really have a need for it.
Preferred the HHKB layout and 45g switches.