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Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: gun_sl1nger on Tue, 15 December 2009, 01:06:43
Just got a HHP2 delivered to Sydney Australia (don't ask howmuch it cost).

Still getting used to the Key feel (coming from a Deck 82 with black cherry switches).

A question: the keys dont seem to have a completely even layer of colour (I got black on charcoal). On the top they are fine but the sides of the keys look a little washed out in some areas and have very faint spots in others. Is this normal? I wouldn't like to send it back.

Also is it worth getting the roof. I made one out of Xray film today (worked out quite well) but I wondered whether the roof gives it a proper seal or if it is open at the sides.

Oh....first post ever, so be kind
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: Rajagra on Tue, 15 December 2009, 01:34:58
My roof is open at the sides, except for two tabs which ensure it goes on straight and can't slide sideways. It also has a strange opening front right, which may be for the HHKB Lite 2 which this roof is also designed to fit.

Is it worth getting? I'm not sure I would have bothered if hadn't come as part of a package. Even for travel use you'd have to rig a way to keep it in place to provide protection. I'd just wrap it in a towel or something.
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 15 December 2009, 10:33:38
Stop scaring away the new people with horrid pictures of shiny keys, Ripster!
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: HungryPillow on Tue, 15 December 2009, 10:49:06
I noticed the uneven finishing and the molding marks as well, but I quite like the charcoal finish and the feel of the keys.
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: GenEric35 on Tue, 15 December 2009, 12:13:09
mine is still shipping, being a pre-order it's been ordered for a while, shipped last thursday, grats on the new keyboard, hopefully i get mine soon so I can celebrate too
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: leos on Tue, 15 December 2009, 12:58:02
until it comes watch and enjoy the nice videos for this amazing keyboard HHKB (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hhkb&search_type=&aq=f)
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: ocdonkb on Tue, 15 December 2009, 13:06:34
I must say, just by the youtube videos, the Topre switch reallly does have a very unique sound. Hard to describe, but it's a very snappy, rubbery "thock", like you could hear the cup snapping back, or something.
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: leos on Tue, 15 December 2009, 13:10:38
Quote from: ripster;142619
LOL - fessup - who posted this one! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ernfUrGNbzM)


thats not me, but this almost describes the TOPRE feeling:hail:
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: gun_sl1nger on Wed, 16 December 2009, 01:59:34
Well I have been using it all week and I keep miss hitting the delete key (backspace on my settings). Actually just writing this post I hit the \ key instead of the BS key (on the Deck 82 I have) so it looks like the HHP2 is winning. It does feel awesome to type on. I try to *find* work to do so that I can actually use the Keyboard!

The Keys are really different feeling. I can't describe how different, just crisper I guess.
I switched out the Esc for the Red one and then the WSAD for the Blue ones and promptly switched em back to charcoal. It just looks good with charcoal and one red key. I had a Radioghrapher comment on how 'tiny and cool' my keyboard looked, which is a first because I have never had someone compliment me on my keyboard. I have had exclamations of 'Gee your Keyboard is weird' or 'why do you use that crappy looking keyboard, it looks cheap' (when using my Deck which I quite like). But never a compliment. So thats a first!
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: leos on Wed, 16 December 2009, 06:41:07
Quote from: gun_sl1nger;142818
Well I have been using it all week and I keep miss hitting the delete key (backspace on my settings). Actually just writing this post I hit the \ key instead of the BS key (on the Deck 82 I have) so it looks like the HHP2 is winning. It does feel awesome to type on. I try to *find* work to do so that I can actually use the Keyboard!

The Keys are really different feeling. I can't describe how different, just crisper I guess.
I switched out the Esc for the Red one and then the WSAD for the Blue ones and promptly switched em back to charcoal. It just looks good with charcoal and one red key. I had a Radioghrapher comment on how 'tiny and cool' my keyboard looked, which is a first because I have never had someone compliment me on my keyboard. I have had exclamations of 'Gee your Keyboard is weird' or 'why do you use that crappy looking keyboard, it looks cheap' (when using my Deck which I quite like). But never a compliment. So thats a first!

now you know what you have and how unknowing lot of people are. In a keyboard does matter:

1. the design (lot people look only this) ---visible---
2. the material make of  (better plastik,wood,metal) ---visible---
3. the ergonomy ---visible---
4. the keystroke, and keystroke feeling (here suppose to be technical/mechanical Superiority) ---invisible but fillable---
5. the keystroke sound (metalplatte or not) ---audible---

topre (hhkb) IS with his fillable keystroke, audible "thok, thok, thok" and his amazing farting not detectable for the most people. But if someone use it then he has reach the point of no return. He would not been able to use a cheap keyboard again.
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: gun_sl1nger on Wed, 16 December 2009, 21:55:58
Just a quick question:

I have the delete key mapped to be BackSpace (no probs there)

But for the life of me I can't figure out how to get Tab to become Caps lock.

I hit Fn + Tab = No Caps, just Tab.

Lil help?
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: msiegel on Wed, 16 December 2009, 22:15:22
Quote from: ripster;142619
LOL - fessup - who posted this one! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ernfUrGNbzM)


:lol: is it welly?
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: Buckling_Summer on Thu, 17 December 2009, 03:28:15
From where the Europeans can grab a HHKB Pro2?
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: xyzzy on Thu, 17 December 2009, 04:38:37
Quote from: gun_sl1nger;143145
Just a quick question:

I have the delete key mapped to be BackSpace (no probs there)

But for the life of me I can't figure out how to get Tab to become Caps lock.

I hit Fn + Tab = No Caps, just Tab.

Lil help?

Fn + Tab switches Caps Lock fine on mine. It works either under Windows 7 and OS X 10.6.

My dip switches are set as follows:
1 OFF
2 ON
3 ON
4 OFF
5 OFF
6 OFF
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: leos on Thu, 17 December 2009, 05:02:58
Quote from: Buckling_Summer;143176
From where the Europeans can grab a HHKB Pro2?

ebay? elitekeyboards.com? smartimports.net?
and if you ask them maybe keyboardco.com

Land of Gods? = Greece? there is no hhkb, Realforce, Filco supplier there
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: Buckling_Summer on Thu, 17 December 2009, 12:03:08
Quote from: leos;143187
ebay? elitekeyboards.com? smartimports.net?
and if you ask them maybe keyboardco.com

Land of Gods? = Greece? there is no hhkb, Realforce, Filco supplier there


Yes, Greece.

Here there is no such a thing known as a keyboard maniac. So, you can draw your conclusions.

eBay= no sign
elitekeyboards.com = do not provide warranty outside US
keyboardco.com = have not seen any, maybe after request?

When I will have the money, I will try pursue a Happy-K.
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 17 December 2009, 12:17:35
Quote from: gun_sl1nger;143145
Just a quick question:

I have the delete key mapped to be BackSpace (no probs there)

But for the life of me I can't figure out how to get Tab to become Caps lock.

I hit Fn + Tab = No Caps, just Tab.

Lil help?

Do you have it in plain HHKB mode?
It may not have the caps lock function.
http://www.pfusystems.com/hhkeyboard/leaflet/hairetu.html (http://www.pfusystems.com/hhkeyboard/leaflet/hairetu.html)
I suggest using Mac mode, it has the most functionality, and there seems to be no downside.
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: leos on Thu, 17 December 2009, 13:54:00
Quote from: Buckling_Summer;143305
Yes, Greece.

Here there is no such a thing known as a keyboard maniac. So, you can draw your conclusions.


you have a Buckling Sping (kampouriko elatirio) keyboard so you are for me a maniak from greece (or a coder).

Quote from: Buckling_Summer;143305

eBay= no sign

why?

Quote from: Buckling_Summer;143305

elitekeyboards.com = do not provide warranty outside US


you meen now that in greece the warehouse people provide warranty?
i dont hear from a hhkb error or recall untill now.


Quote from: Buckling_Summer;143305

keyboardco.com = have not seen any, maybe after request?

yes

Quote from: Buckling_Summer;143305

When I will have the money, I will try pursue a Happy-K.

when? take credit , is normal there, i think you can take now a christmas credit eg. "eortodaneio"
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: gun_sl1nger on Thu, 17 December 2009, 15:38:51
Quote from: Rajagra;143316
Do you have it in plain HHKB mode?
It may not have the caps lock function.
http://www.pfusystems.com/hhkeyboard/leaflet/hairetu.html (http://www.pfusystems.com/hhkeyboard/leaflet/hairetu.html)
I suggest using Mac mode, it has the most functionality, and there seems to be no downside.

I have it so that Delete = BackSpace

Perhaps Mac Mode may do the Trick

Edit: Thanks for the heads up, just tested it and its working a treat
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: Buckling_Summer on Thu, 17 December 2009, 17:21:36
Quote from: leos;143341
you have a Buckling Sping (kampouriko elatirio) keyboard so you are for me a maniak from greece (or a coder).


Geia sou Ellada. Nai. Lygisto i spasto elatirio. What about you? Whereabouts?
Do you want me to pm you?

Quote from: leos;143341
you meen now that in greece the warehouse people provide warranty?
i dont hear from a hhkb error or recall untill now.


Yes, but this year I experienced some bad luck with keyboards. I returned 2 times some keyboard to the same distributor. Two misses in a row! Statistically impossible. Can't reveal names. If I didn't have warranty I would loose money equivalent to 1 HHKB2 Pro.


Quote from: leos;143341
when? take credit , is normal there, i think you can take now a christmas credit eg. "eortodaneio"


Do you work for Toppre? ;-)
BTW Toppre switching is not the next priority. Now it is buckling spring capacitative time (----> Model F AT <------)
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 14:41:01
Quote from: ripster;142593


Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4025&stc=1&d=1251213237)


I love typing on keyboards that's got some nice and shiny keys. For some reason, when the keyboard is so used and the keys are shiny, the play in each key feels loose and louder. Me likey =D
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:46:56
How much looser, and how much louder?
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:50:37
Quote from: ch_123;143758
How much looser, and how much louder?


well I'm just saying in general. The keyboards that I run into that's got shiny keys normally has a lot of play in each key and it's almost twice as loud. I see those normal Dell rubber dome keyboards at school that's shiny and they seem to be easier to type on... or maybe it's just me lol
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:54:09
Oh right. I'm not 100% sure if you can judge Topres off the decay of Dell 'Crappykeys' :P
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: meltie on Sat, 19 December 2009, 17:45:45
@Buckling_Summer:

Did you try Geek Stuff 4 You? http://www.geekstuff4u.com

I never bought there but they ship to any country in the world.
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 18:07:47
So does Elitekeyboards. Problem here is the shipping and warranty. I'm not sure whether Geekstuff4u offers a proper warranty. Certainly wouldn't want to foot the bill for shipping it back to Japan if **** hit the fan.

Times like this, I really wonder what happened that made us Europeans so boring, and thus left out of the market for cool technological items...
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: gun_sl1nger on Wed, 23 December 2009, 04:13:26
Another question...

I can't seem to get backtab to work out for me, I am using Mac mode and the windows key switch (2 and 3)? Does back tab actually work? (Shift+Tab)
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: GenEric35 on Wed, 23 December 2009, 05:13:27
Hi About your slash keys, until you find them you can always copy mine, here: \ and / :D

i got my blank hhkb pro2 yesterday, for some reason took me 30 minutes just finding a website with the layout, usualy that's something i've been finding in 2 minutes lol, even if i never usualy have to look at the keyboard, with some keys and layout being in new places, id say getting used to it is quite a 'reset' of habbits

Here's where are my slashes:
 I use 1-3-5 dipswitches on, i think this corresponds to hhkb lite mode or something like that, from the default settings, this gives me the following results, the default delete key replaced by backspace, and the alt keys close to the space bar, and the Fn key at default location, with windows set on english settings for my keyboard, my / key is the first key to the left of the right shift key, and my \ key is, starting from top right corner, the second to the left, none of those 2 slashes require me to press Fn or Shift.

All this is on windows, i don't have a Mac right now, but if you have to test or compare some settings, just send me a PM, i'll be back as soon as i'm done this last minute shopping
Title: Happy Hacking Pro 2
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 23 December 2009, 07:27:15
Quote from: gun_sl1nger;144688
Another question...

I can't seem to get backtab to work out for me, I am using Mac mode and the windows key switch (2 and 3)? Does back tab actually work? (Shift+Tab)

It works for me. I have the version 1 HHKB Pro, and my DIPs are 2,3,4,6 on, but that should make no difference.
Quote from: GenEric35;144697
i got my blank hhkb pro2 yesterday, for some reason took me 30 minutes just finding a website with the layout


Haha, now you mention it, having a blank HHKB is much more hardcore than having a blank, standard layout keyboard.