I don't think SP can do triple-shot keycaps. A couple of those symbol keys will be impossible for them to make.
Every key in the ISO kit is the wrong color.
Love it. Might get two if you include Planck kit ;D
I love it, but it needs a planck kit!
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- Added Planck kit
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- Fixed ISO UK set
- Added Planck kit
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Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.
Because we haven't been waiting to be able to buy any actual product from jellykey :))
I still don't get why this is SA as opposed to DSA. SA looks great with retro style stuff, but this isn't retro. Maybe I just need to see an actual render to judge.
I don't think there is any reason to include a steeped caps lock with the base kit. No standard keyboard uses a steeped caps key there. The steeped caps lock is most common on vintage cherry boards and custom builds, many of which use Winkeyless layouts. Generally that key is just put in the winkeyless kits.
Where did you get the template for the renders from? Looks a whole lot like Wilba's template.
Yeah they can be very difficult to make indeed!I don't think there is any reason to include a steeped caps lock with the base kit. No standard keyboard uses a steeped caps key there. The steeped caps lock is most common on vintage cherry boards and custom builds, many of which use Winkeyless layouts. Generally that key is just put in the winkeyless kits.Where did you get the template for the renders from? Looks a whole lot like Wilba's template.
Thanks for you continuous feedback from r/mk to here. We appreciate it.
We drew the template by ourselves, it took us quite lot of time to arrange the keys.
Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.
Because we haven't been waiting to be able to buy any actual product from jellykey :))
I still don't get why this is SA as opposed to DSA. SA looks great with retro style stuff, but this isn't retro. Maybe I just need to see an actual render to judge.
Yeah sorray, I forgot about that. But somehow they managed to produce I would be happy.Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.
Unless Jelly Key built their own SA profile cap molds, it's SP as they do note that it's SA profile.
Sorray :cLove the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.
Yeah....not really how that works :rolleyes:
I don't see any JellyKeys here, just boring SA. Get to the good stuff!Lol, all the good stuff are in the secret place here. They are awesome I would say. They are going to arrange GB for a Crimson Night by the end of this week. Don't know if they have a plan to make it outside of VN, but the last GB for Vnese only was quite success I would say.
Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.
It was quite big though, but it is quite isolated after the Event.
Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.
That's the thing, I don't know how big the mech community in VN is, but for me, 1 local gb isn't as reassuring as one that those of us in the US or Europe would be able to partake in.
It was quite big though, but it is quite isolated after the Event.
Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.
That's the thing, I don't know how big the mech community in VN is, but for me, 1 local gb isn't as reassuring as one that those of us in the US or Europe would be able to partake in.
I lived in Denmark before, though pretty sure it is bigger than Scandinavia community.
The previous GB almost hit 100 units, which is not bad for a single community and first project. I didn't follow because of ugly base colour.
Pretty sure next GB would be a blast, chances are they will open it for foreigner customers with shipping fee as well. Regardless, I will stock some and resell them for GH only.
BTW I have a brother living in Ohio if you want I could make a special order lol.
Sorry for long post. I am new to forum and still dont know how to edit those quotes out.
Nah last time they didn't mention about limitation. There are few people bought 5 of themIt was quite big though, but it is quite isolated after the Event.
I lived in Denmark before, though pretty sure it is bigger than Scandinavia community.
The previous GB almost hit 100 units, which is not bad for a single community and first project. I didn't follow because of ugly base colour.
Pretty sure next GB would be a blast, chances are they will open it for foreigner customers with shipping fee as well. Regardless, I will stock some and resell them for GH only.
BTW I have a brother living in Ohio if you want I could make a special order lol.
Sorry for long post. I am new to forum and still dont know how to edit those quotes out.
I am sure they do put a limit per person :)
SP's gonna need another SA machine! Oh wait, they've needed that for a couple of years now...
Nice looking set. Ever since I saw that picture of the guy in the hat, I knew I liked VNMK.
SP's gonna need another SA machine! Oh wait, they've needed that for a couple of years now...
Nice looking set. Ever since I saw that picture of the guy in the hat, I knew I liked VNMK.
In an email Oobly posted a while back, SP had mentioned that they had increase SA tooling. The demand just means they might need to look to increase even more.
I understand their end though. The SA profile is hot right now but how long will it last? New molds aren't cheap and I'm sure they want to ensure they're going to be able to capitalize on those molds.
SP's gonna need another SA machine! Oh wait, they've needed that for a couple of years now...
Nice looking set. Ever since I saw that picture of the guy in the hat, I knew I liked VNMK.
In an email Oobly posted a while back, SP had mentioned that they had increase SA tooling. The demand just means they might need to look to increase even more.
I understand their end though. The SA profile is hot right now but how long will it last? New molds aren't cheap and I'm sure they want to ensure they're going to be able to capitalize on those molds.
I think they're afraid of over-expanding their operations. If this SA trend dies down then they'll be stuck with some very, very expensive equipment that isn't being fully utilized.
This is the keyset I have been looking for.
The render is alright, but what are the actual colors that would be used, in terms of either GMK or SP sample swatches?I second this
this is really nice ^-^if you want it , please let me know haha :thumb:
did you think to check SP colors first?LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.
After looking at SP's ABS colors again, there is nothing close to resembling the yellow/light green you have on this kit, with the other green being quite iffy at best.
did you think to check SP colors first?LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.
After looking at SP's ABS colors again, there is nothing close to resembling the yellow/light green you have on this kit, with the other green being quite iffy at best.
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.
I don't think that they have. This set looks awesome and I'd love to buy it, but there have been rather obvious oversights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81385.msg2140597#msg2140597) which doesn't make me confident that it will succeed...
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.
I don't think that they have. This set looks awesome and I'd love to buy it, but there have been rather obvious oversights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81385.msg2140597#msg2140597) which doesn't make me confident that it will succeed...
Oh my.. Ahaha. At least this isn't a group buy thread.
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.
I don't think that they have. This set looks awesome and I'd love to buy it, but there have been rather obvious oversights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81385.msg2140597#msg2140597) which doesn't make me confident that it will succeed...
Oh my.. Ahaha. At least this isn't a group buy thread.
Well, the problems can be sorted out with feedback! The concept looks awesome, still!
The SP mock-up is pretty bad. The light text on the dark keys is nice by itself, but all of the colors don't work together at all.
Jellykey, did you plan on being able to get these colors?
I'm close to un-watching because it's almost looking like there's no point.
The SP mock-up is pretty bad. The light text on the dark keys is nice by itself, but all of the colors don't work together at all.
Jellykey, did you plan on being able to get these colors?
I'm close to un-watching because it's almost looking like there's no point.
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?
I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?
I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...
He's close. It's 29.5%. But a greater percentage (34.6%) goes to TKL, so his point falls utterly flat.
2015 Reddit community survey (https://wlhlm.github.io/rmk-march-2015-survey/kb.html)
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?
I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...
He's close. It's 29.5%. But a greater percentage (34.6%) goes to TKL, so his point falls utterly flat.
2015 Reddit community survey (https://wlhlm.github.io/rmk-march-2015-survey/kb.html)
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?
I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...
He's close. It's 29.5%. But a greater percentage (34.6%) goes to TKL, so his point falls utterly flat.
2015 Reddit community survey (https://wlhlm.github.io/rmk-march-2015-survey/kb.html)
My point doesn't fall "utterly flat". Firstly, you're using outdated survey data. Here is the most recent 2016 Winter Survey (http://gomechanicalkeyboard.com/mechanical-keyboard-winter-survey-2016/). 30% goes to 60% keyboards (up 0.5%) while 32% goes to TKL (down 2.6%). Despite the fact that TKL holds a larger share of the market, its popularity is dropping and 60% is increasing. Pok3r still holds top spot for favorite keyboard and that's ignoring the fact that Poker X and Poker II are still very prevalent. Finally, regardless that TKL is slightly more popular than 60% (and falling), offering a base kit in 60% has no effect on the price of TKL keysets but DOES lower the price for 60% users as they are getting less keys.
I have no problems with most keysets starting off as a 60% base, as long as the price reflects that and as long as someone can get the base kit + TKL kit for roughly the same price as what TKL base kits run now.
More thought goes into an unplanned pregnancy than went into this set lmao
Are there not other manufacturers able to offer a full pallet? GMK for example?
Why have F keys in a base kit, but not fill out the rest of the TKL? That makes no sense, at all.
Also, not a whole lot of point having a steeped caps is you aren't catering to the rest of the keys a winkeyless keyboard needs.
Why have all the double forum novelties?
Take some time to actually look at the keyboards and figure out why many kits you see actually have the certain keys in them, and why certain keys commonly grouped together.
Agreed. If the base kit is going to be 60%, don't include F keys. Put F keys in a TKL set along with arrows and the nav cluster.
Annnnnnndddddd................... They added F keys to the base kit.
Seriously why are F-Keys included in the base? Even 75% keyboards have arrows so what board would the base kit even fit?
I don't think they can go back to update two, unless they manage to convince SP it's worth the hustle to do custom ABS colors (which probably won't happen any time soon). The problem is that they just picked colors that looked nice without researching whether SP was actually able to produce anything resembling it. But I think a proper redesign would have to start from scratch, rather than trying to bridge the gap between the original concept and SP's color palette.
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Nah, I think a lot of thought went into the aesthetics – the initial concept looks really neat. The logistics of actually producing the caps, that's another story. But having lots of experience of and talent for the former does not automatically mean you know all the ins and outs of dealing with SP and what they can or cannot do.
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Man, that's quite a departure from the original concept. :eek: I don't know about that yellow, kind of makes this Modern Selectric with some extra splashes of color.
That's great, but I think you are going about it the wrong way. The initial concept was based around a gradient from dark blue to green, whereas the new concept contains three colors: blue, green, and yellow. I get that the yellow was the closest match to the rightmost green from the initial concept, but it's still quite a stark departure from what you started with and breaks the gradient that tied the color scheme together.I don't think they can go back to update two, unless they manage to convince SP it's worth the hustle to do custom ABS colors (which probably won't happen any time soon). The problem is that they just picked colors that looked nice without researching whether SP was actually able to produce anything resembling it. But I think a proper redesign would have to start from scratch, rather than trying to bridge the gap between the original concept and SP's color palette.
Sent from my Moto X using TapatalkNah, I think a lot of thought went into the aesthetics – the initial concept looks really neat. The logistics of actually producing the caps, that's another story. But having lots of experience of and talent for the former does not automatically mean you know all the ins and outs of dealing with SP and what they can or cannot do.
Sent from my Moto X using TapatalkMan, that's quite a departure from the original concept. :eek: I don't know about that yellow, kind of makes this Modern Selectric with some extra splashes of color.
It's correct. SP has very limited color options. So, we have to change the set with their available color.
Our designer is learning Solidworks, she will finish the 3D Render very soon.
It will allow us to have a better look and feel about the Key Set.
SP has very limited color options.This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
SP has very limited color options.This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).
However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).
SP has very limited color options.This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).
However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).
Being completely honest, I would rather pay a premium for a product that ticks all boxes than have another half baked generic set.
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totally IN.. maaan..looks like2016 is gonna be a killer for my wallet
SP has very limited color options.This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).
However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).
More thought goes into an unplanned pregnancy than went into this set lmao
More thought goes into an unplanned pregnancy than went into this set lmao
but they spent "after 2 weeks of non-stop developing and designing" lol
SP has very limited color options.This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).
However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).
You guys have NO idea what you are talking about. SP has more colors than ANY other manufacturer out there. You just didnt do your basic research first.
totally IN.. maaan..looks like2016 is gonna be a killer for my wallet
I don't think this set will be taking your money any time soon. :))
There are people on GH far more knowledgeable than me when it comes to these things, but wouldn't it be easier to just go for a more conventional key profile and work with a company like GMK to produce a keyset with the colors you actually wanted from the start? Spericals are nice and all, but there are lots of companies that make keycaps and some of them might be more inclined to do custom colors.
There are people on GH far more knowledgeable than me when it comes to these things, but wouldn't it be easier to just go for a more conventional key profile and work with a company like GMK to produce a keyset with the colors you actually wanted from the start? Spericals are nice and all, but there are lots of companies that make keycaps and some of them might be more inclined to do custom colors.
Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.
That's the thing, I don't know how big the mech community in VN is, but for me, 1 local gb isn't as reassuring as one that those of us in the US or Europe would be able to partake in.
My understanding is that GMK is probably the least likely to do custom colors without a massive MOQ.
$50 per legend, IIRC. 16 isn't an insurmountable quantity.
lol no 'K' keycap, gg bro
$50 per legend, IIRC. 16 isn't an insurmountable quantity.
Cheaper than I remembered. Still, it's worth noting, since it will take the price up a notch.
$50 per legend, IIRC. 16 isn't an insurmountable quantity.
Cheaper than I remembered. Still, it's worth noting, since it will take the price up a notch.
It shouldn't be hugely bad. Carbon had quite a number of unique keys involved and upcoming sets like Rebel and Yuri are looking at almost complete alphabet changes for Aurebesh and Cyrillic respectively.
lol no 'K' keycap, gg bro
What font are you guys using for that render? It's not SP's Gorton Modified for sure, that's way chunkier. For example, look at the curly brackets on the Round 5 keys – the line width here seems to be at least twice that of whichever font you're using. Not that light fonts are not nice (though perhaps not the most legible), but I doubt SP would be able to do something with those hair thin lines even if you paid them to make custom moulds for all the keys in the set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/U2nqDTP.jpg)
In fairness, I don't believe SP's Gorton Modified is an actual computer font. That makes it really difficult to produce renders that exactly match the final SP keycaps. But there are plenty of fonts that come close. In my research, it appears that German design house URW Studio (https://www.urwpp.de/) purchased the rights to the original Gorton engraver's font (Gorton is a brand of engraving machines) in the 90s and produced their URW Gordon font (notice the subtle name change) from it. It's a nearly perfect replica of the original. SP has made some changes to the original Gorton, which is why they call it Gorton Modified. They explain this briefly on their web site (http://keycapsdirect.com/processes.php). There are a few other PC fonts that imitate the Gorton look.