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Title: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Sat, 16 April 2016, 08:00:56
Dear friends,

I would like to present you our latest creation after 2 weeks of non-stop developing and designing.

Keyset Name: Starry Night
Profile: SA
Row: 1-1-2-3-4-4


The first keyset by Joinhandmade team was named Starry Night after the name of an oil painting by Van Gogh as the team was inspired by the color of that masterpiece. That inspiration has continued to nourish the team’s creativity that led to the work of keyset.

With the keyset, the dominantly-triangle-shaped icons of the keyset are another unique feature. In the world of high tech or design, the triangle shape evokes strength, movement and the future. Each specific icon was designed with a specific meaning: Creation, Connection, Exploration, Expression, Learning, Understanding, Protection, Reflection, Challenge, Transcendent, Combination, Transformation, Transition, and Transfusion.


Update 4:

- Demo 3D Render : http://imgur.com/a/7OEkW

Update 3:
- SP colours.
- Impove some colours.

Update 2:
- Fix bug
- Edit some color
- Add fullsize preview
- Change : Row: 1-1-2-3-4-4

Update 1:
- Fixed ISO UK set
- Added Planck kit
- Edited background...

Update 4: 3D Render

- Fullsize:
(https://i.imgur.com/O0Z8xEA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uiGWyaB.jpg)

- 60% plus F row

(http://i.imgur.com/z4VQy2X.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5Gm15iw.jpg)

- Close up

(https://i.imgur.com/tIXDjmh.jpg)

Update 3: http://imgur.com/a/4zegm . We 're keep working :)

(http://i.imgur.com/6Krk8ed.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aSrcFg1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nxC42Kt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Si7gEw3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9HvbYee.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6vDkhEy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Q63iZUj.jpg)


Please let us know your opinion about this keyset.

Thank you,

Our fanpage: https://www.facebook.com/jellykey.joinhandmade/ (https://www.facebook.com/jellykey.joinhandmade/)
Email: jelly.key@joinhandmade.com
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: climbalima on Sat, 16 April 2016, 08:14:51
I love it, but it needs a planck kit!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Lipton on Sat, 16 April 2016, 08:34:02
Looks great! Will you have standard numbers and ` ~ -_ =+ as well?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: stratzi on Sat, 16 April 2016, 09:33:14
Definitely interested in getting my hands on this set. It's so beautiful, I need it in my life.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Tyr on Sat, 16 April 2016, 10:01:34
Love it. Might get two if you include Planck kit  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: MikeyR on Sat, 16 April 2016, 10:02:42
really beautiful set!  :thumb: Any chances for a nordic kit?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: groceries on Sat, 16 April 2016, 10:18:17
Love this set, I need it! Definitely interested.
Also, any chance of making a set for topre switches?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: zslane on Sat, 16 April 2016, 11:23:16
I don't think SP can do triple-shot keycaps. A couple of those symbol keys will be impossible for them to make.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 16 April 2016, 11:33:17
Every key in the ISO kit is the wrong color.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Sat, 16 April 2016, 11:57:54
I don't think SP can do triple-shot keycaps. A couple of those symbol keys will be impossible for them to make.

Every key in the ISO kit is the wrong color.

Thanks you for the feedback. I have sent those input to design team :)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Sat, 16 April 2016, 12:00:49
Love it. Might get two if you include Planck kit  ;D

I love it, but it needs a planck kit!


Our team is working on it :)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: weifanwang on Sat, 16 April 2016, 12:03:36
i like this!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: xiaodian317 on Sat, 16 April 2016, 12:32:07
That's really so awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: muon on Sat, 16 April 2016, 13:30:38
Nice!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Durvid on Sat, 16 April 2016, 17:24:07
Would love to get my hands on an ergodox set.. Looking forward to it!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Sat, 16 April 2016, 18:47:17
Update 1:

- Fixed ISO UK set
- Added Planck kit
- Edited background...

(http://i.imgur.com/gxImDhl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/thevFHH.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/ENx3w04.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/HAta6Rc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BpVphsr.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ul2u95Z.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/OjWkqij.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/adtG9Kl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/IWkcOqn.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Nke9eCM.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/9ROAxLz.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/sswHftP.png)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 16 April 2016, 19:44:17
Base Kit - The extra CTRL is 2.25 instead of 1.75. I don't know of a single board or person that puts CTRL where L SHIFT is, if that was intentional. It is also yellow, and not the dark blue that the CAPS LOCK is. Speaking of caps lock, the render has "CAPSLOCK" instead of "CAPS LOCK" on the main key, and the extra bottom one caps key is also yellow instead of blue? Makes no sense. Secondly, what is the point of having "Hyper" and "Super" keys? Having one of the keys, in this sets case, is good because you can use it as MENU or FN without the need to have both. Also, why are they yellow also?

Numpad- Not a "mistake" technically, but the straight vertical gradient of the numpad would look quite odd beside the staggered gradient of the alphas and mods. Also, it would only fully "match" the Tenkeyless 02 kit due to the yellow top row, the basic kit has a full blue top row, which could also look very out of place in conjunction with the kit. A full blue kit or a staggered gradient would be a huge improvement i think.

Symbol Kit #1 - The 3 novelty keys on the right with multiple colors are impossible to make. Period. SP simply can't do them. Also, the others would need to be designed and touched up more than likely to be able to be made by SP. Why is the 1.5u BS blue? Why is there a blue AND yellow 1u |\ but only a yellow 1u BS? What is the point of having 1.5u bottom row modifiers and not including a 7u spacebar?

Symbol Kit #2-Like the first symbol kit, the last 3 keys are unable to be produced at all by SP.

ISO KIT- Why is the return key blue? Why are the 2, 3, 4 keys yellow? Makes zero sense.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 16 April 2016, 19:47:23
Update 1:

- Fixed ISO UK set
- Added Planck kit
- Edited background...

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ISO kit is still wrong.

, and # are the wrong color. They are placed next to the right side of the board - so they need to be light.
Backslash is the wrong color. It lives on the left side of the board - so it needs to be dark.
3 and 4 are not the same shade as your base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: dthai17 on Sat, 16 April 2016, 21:24:30
I'll be in for one if this drops! looks amazing
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Deeree1867 on Sat, 16 April 2016, 21:27:26
+1 for the planck set
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Khuya on Sat, 16 April 2016, 21:43:09
I like this set, but the 4 arrows looks a bit too much compare to the rest of the keys.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: tiltdown on Sun, 17 April 2016, 00:01:26
+1 for the base set + TKL
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: LunarisDream on Sun, 17 April 2016, 06:56:10
Honestly, I would like this set much better if the legends were all yellow, with the base as various shades of dark blue. Instead of a "starry night", you've got a yellow-blue gradient which, while good on 1976, does not work very well here to my eyes. It doesn't match the theme when you have that much yellow on one side of the board.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: b4d_tR1p on Sun, 17 April 2016, 08:24:12
Update 1:

- Fixed ISO UK set
- Added Planck kit
- Edited background...

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(http://i.imgur.com/gxImDhl.png)


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(http://i.imgur.com/thevFHH.png)


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really really lovely  :thumb:

but, why you don't add some symbols on the ergodox kit?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sun, 17 April 2016, 08:31:12
Such an interesting colourway. I hope the constructive feedback results in this set becoming a reality.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: ToonsAndCereal on Sun, 17 April 2016, 09:02:02
I usually don't like custom-key cap sets, but I think this is gorgeous and may be the first set I buy that isn't a cheap rosewill or tai hao set. I'm definitely interested, assuming the price isn't outrageously higher than most group-buy prices.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Tmeee on Sun, 17 April 2016, 09:15:12
Wonderful design.In.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Mon, 18 April 2016, 09:04:17
Update 2:

- Fix bug
- Edit some color
- Add fullsize preview
- Change : Row: 1-1-2-3-4-4

(http://i.imgur.com/oYOfq22.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/cAk112x.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/qrhdZ23.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/cZYeI0J.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/IMVs2PI.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/KdhE1Vk.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/wl0X5Pb.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/K4cufbk.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Lmfmd0P.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/rFm64PW.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/RNYHNLZ.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/n0AK8xG.png)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: algernon on Mon, 18 April 2016, 09:23:15
Blanks, or a modifiers-only kit for ErgoDox, and I'm sold. Lovely colors, but labels (at least on alphanumerics) make me sad :(
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Mon, 18 April 2016, 09:35:40
I 'll try to update & fix our problem as quick as we can. Thanks u for your advice ^^.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Juss on Mon, 18 April 2016, 09:41:59
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 18 April 2016, 11:55:44
I don't think there is any reason to include a steeped caps lock with the base kit. No standard keyboard uses a steeped caps key there. The steeped caps lock is most common on vintage cherry boards and custom builds, many of which use Winkeyless layouts. Generally that key is just put in the winkeyless kits.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Dadrophenia on Mon, 18 April 2016, 12:48:33
I'd add a 7u space bar to the non standard kit (or somewhere). This keyset looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:02:13
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.

Unless Jelly Key built their own SA profile cap molds, it's SP as they do note that it's SA profile.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:09:34
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.


Yeah....not really how that works  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: pwade3 on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:18:42
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.

Because we haven't been waiting to be able to buy any actual product from jellykey  :))


I still don't get why this is SA as opposed to DSA. SA looks great with retro style stuff, but this isn't retro. Maybe I just need to see an actual render to judge.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 18 April 2016, 16:27:36
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.

Because we haven't been waiting to be able to buy any actual product from jellykey  :))


I still don't get why this is SA as opposed to DSA. SA looks great with retro style stuff, but this isn't retro. Maybe I just need to see an actual render to judge.

SA is popular right now so people are running with it.  That said, Hana is DSA and doing well on MD, Earfbound is also planned for DSA at the moment.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: haikuna on Mon, 18 April 2016, 20:16:40
Pleeeeeeeease consider adding a Colemak/Dvorak set!!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 18 April 2016, 20:30:25
I don't see any JellyKeys here, just boring SA. Get to the good stuff!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 18 April 2016, 22:19:38
Where did you get the template for the renders from? Looks a whole lot like Wilba's template.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Khuya on Tue, 19 April 2016, 00:18:15
this new SA profile row fixed i like
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: n0rvig on Tue, 19 April 2016, 00:35:44
Love the art. Love the renders. Great job!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: captsis on Tue, 19 April 2016, 00:43:45
Wheres tsengan or 60 kit??
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Tue, 19 April 2016, 00:49:01
I don't think there is any reason to include a steeped caps lock with the base kit. No standard keyboard uses a steeped caps key there. The steeped caps lock is most common on vintage cherry boards and custom builds, many of which use Winkeyless layouts. Generally that key is just put in the winkeyless kits.

Where did you get the template for the renders from? Looks a whole lot like Wilba's template.

Thanks for you continuous feedback from r/mk to here. We appreciate it.
We drew the template by ourselves, it took us quite lot of time to arrange the keys.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: GeneClackman on Tue, 19 April 2016, 03:17:45
Really beautiful! I like it very much, especially that it has a SA profile and a decent Mac kit.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: kekman on Tue, 19 April 2016, 06:51:20
kit looks great, about when should we be able to see a production sample?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 19 April 2016, 08:53:32
I don't think there is any reason to include a steeped caps lock with the base kit. No standard keyboard uses a steeped caps key there. The steeped caps lock is most common on vintage cherry boards and custom builds, many of which use Winkeyless layouts. Generally that key is just put in the winkeyless kits.

Where did you get the template for the renders from? Looks a whole lot like Wilba's template.

Thanks for you continuous feedback from r/mk to here. We appreciate it.
We drew the template by ourselves, it took us quite lot of time to arrange the keys.
Yeah they can be very difficult to make indeed!

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Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Juss on Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:11:49
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.

Because we haven't been waiting to be able to buy any actual product from jellykey  :))


I still don't get why this is SA as opposed to DSA. SA looks great with retro style stuff, but this isn't retro. Maybe I just need to see an actual render to judge.
Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.

Unless Jelly Key built their own SA profile cap molds, it's SP as they do note that it's SA profile.
Yeah sorray, I forgot about that. But somehow they managed to produce I would be happy.
Love the novelties kit. Hopefully it does not depend on SP, but Jelly factory so I don't have to wait for a millennium.


Yeah....not really how that works  :rolleyes:
Sorray :c
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Juss on Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:15:14
I don't see any JellyKeys here, just boring SA. Get to the good stuff!
Lol, all the good stuff are in the secret place here. They are awesome I would say. They are going to arrange GB for a Crimson Night by the end of this week. Don't know if they have a plan to make it outside of VN, but the last GB for Vnese only was quite success I would say.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: pwade3 on Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:48:11

Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.


That's the thing, I don't know how big the mech community in VN is, but for me, 1 local gb isn't as reassuring as one that those of us in the US or Europe would be able to partake in.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Juss on Tue, 19 April 2016, 14:14:13

Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.


That's the thing, I don't know how big the mech community in VN is, but for me, 1 local gb isn't as reassuring as one that those of us in the US or Europe would be able to partake in.
It was quite big though, but it is quite isolated after the Event.
I lived in Denmark before, though pretty sure it is bigger than Scandinavia community.
The previous GB almost hit 100 units, which is not bad for a single community and first project. I didn't follow because of ugly base colour.
Pretty sure next GB would be a blast, chances are they will open it for foreigner customers with shipping fee as well. Regardless, I will stock some and resell them for GH only.
BTW I have a brother living in Ohio if you want I could make a special order lol.
Sorry for long post. I am new to forum and still dont know how to edit those quotes out.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Khuya on Tue, 19 April 2016, 15:42:53

Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.


That's the thing, I don't know how big the mech community in VN is, but for me, 1 local gb isn't as reassuring as one that those of us in the US or Europe would be able to partake in.
It was quite big though, but it is quite isolated after the Event.
I lived in Denmark before, though pretty sure it is bigger than Scandinavia community.
The previous GB almost hit 100 units, which is not bad for a single community and first project. I didn't follow because of ugly base colour.
Pretty sure next GB would be a blast, chances are they will open it for foreigner customers with shipping fee as well. Regardless, I will stock some and resell them for GH only.
BTW I have a brother living in Ohio if you want I could make a special order lol.
Sorry for long post. I am new to forum and still dont know how to edit those quotes out.

I am sure they do put a limit per person :)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: c2lknt on Tue, 19 April 2016, 21:29:18
SP's gonna need another SA machine!  Oh wait, they've needed that for a couple of years now...

Nice looking set.  Ever since I saw that picture of the guy in the hat, I knew I liked VNMK.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: fengshaun on Tue, 19 April 2016, 22:24:57
Is there gonna be a dvorak kit?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Juss on Wed, 20 April 2016, 00:26:04
It was quite big though, but it is quite isolated after the Event.
I lived in Denmark before, though pretty sure it is bigger than Scandinavia community.
The previous GB almost hit 100 units, which is not bad for a single community and first project. I didn't follow because of ugly base colour.
Pretty sure next GB would be a blast, chances are they will open it for foreigner customers with shipping fee as well. Regardless, I will stock some and resell them for GH only.
BTW I have a brother living in Ohio if you want I could make a special order lol.
Sorry for long post. I am new to forum and still dont know how to edit those quotes out.

I am sure they do put a limit per person :)
Nah last time they didn't mention about limitation. There are few people bought 5 of them
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 20 April 2016, 00:29:59
SP's gonna need another SA machine!  Oh wait, they've needed that for a couple of years now...

Nice looking set.  Ever since I saw that picture of the guy in the hat, I knew I liked VNMK.

In an email Oobly posted a while back, SP had mentioned that they had increase SA tooling.  The demand just means they might need to look to increase even more.

I understand their end though.  The SA profile is hot right now but how long will it last?  New molds aren't cheap and I'm sure they want to ensure they're going to be able to capitalize on those molds. 
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: kingnestea on Wed, 20 April 2016, 01:14:53
pls take my money
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: FLFisherman on Wed, 20 April 2016, 07:25:30
SP's gonna need another SA machine!  Oh wait, they've needed that for a couple of years now...

Nice looking set.  Ever since I saw that picture of the guy in the hat, I knew I liked VNMK.

In an email Oobly posted a while back, SP had mentioned that they had increase SA tooling.  The demand just means they might need to look to increase even more.

I understand their end though.  The SA profile is hot right now but how long will it last?  New molds aren't cheap and I'm sure they want to ensure they're going to be able to capitalize on those molds.

I think they're afraid of over-expanding their operations. If this SA trend dies down then they'll be stuck with some very, very expensive equipment that isn't being fully utilized.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: weifanwang on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:48:53
Why the PASSION KIT have the same key caps? :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Khuya on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:53:21
I was hoping they would produce their own keycaps instead of relying on SP.  Producing in VN would be cheaper, and that triple shots caps suggested that they wouldn't be using SP.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 20 April 2016, 19:40:20
SP's gonna need another SA machine!  Oh wait, they've needed that for a couple of years now...

Nice looking set.  Ever since I saw that picture of the guy in the hat, I knew I liked VNMK.

In an email Oobly posted a while back, SP had mentioned that they had increase SA tooling.  The demand just means they might need to look to increase even more.

I understand their end though.  The SA profile is hot right now but how long will it last?  New molds aren't cheap and I'm sure they want to ensure they're going to be able to capitalize on those molds.

I think they're afraid of over-expanding their operations. If this SA trend dies down then they'll be stuck with some very, very expensive equipment that isn't being fully utilized.

Absolutely.  That's a fair amount of money to lay out on tooling that may not be needed for long.  I certainly can't blame them on not putting more into SA tooling.

Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Jedi on Wed, 20 April 2016, 23:35:45
Following
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: stix on Thu, 21 April 2016, 10:20:45
This is the keyboard I have been looking for.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 21 April 2016, 10:22:56
This is the keyset I have been looking for.

FTFY
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: tskiller on Thu, 21 April 2016, 11:36:49
this looks awesome, where do I throw my money?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: quantrix on Fri, 22 April 2016, 01:01:57
The render is alright, but what are the actual colors that would be used, in terms of either GMK or SP sample swatches?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: cozmonort on Fri, 22 April 2016, 09:07:15
Pretty excited about this, will definitely be watching :)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: weifanwang on Fri, 22 April 2016, 18:00:08
when can run it? my Chinese friends want buy it!!!!!!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: diqkiq on Fri, 22 April 2016, 21:20:13
The render is alright, but what are the actual colors that would be used, in terms of either GMK or SP sample swatches?
I second this
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: alveeno on Sat, 23 April 2016, 14:01:14
I would buy this if there was a hhkb kit as well.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 23 April 2016, 14:06:09
removed.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: nguyenkimtam on Sat, 23 April 2016, 15:58:12
this is really nice ^-^
if you want it , please let me know haha  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: PriusProblems on Sat, 23 April 2016, 17:07:33
Any chance of grid Planck support (two 1u spacebar keys)?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 23 April 2016, 20:26:00
did you think to check SP colors first?

After looking at SP's ABS colors again, there is nothing close to resembling the yellow/light green you have on this kit, with the other green being quite iffy at best.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: quantrix on Sun, 24 April 2016, 15:37:29
They could get custom Pantones mixed perhaps, but probably not worth it for a couple hundred sets.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: AgentZen on Sun, 24 April 2016, 15:56:16
did you think to check SP colors first?

After looking at SP's ABS colors again, there is nothing close to resembling the yellow/light green you have on this kit, with the other green being quite iffy at best.
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 24 April 2016, 16:28:34
did you think to check SP colors first?

After looking at SP's ABS colors again, there is nothing close to resembling the yellow/light green you have on this kit, with the other green being quite iffy at best.
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.

From the first renders of their sets, I wouldn't hold your breath on that  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: f1xedgear on Sun, 24 April 2016, 16:32:56
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.

I don't think that they have. This set looks awesome and I'd love to buy it, but there have been rather obvious oversights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81385.msg2140597#msg2140597) which doesn't make me confident that it will succeed...
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: AgentZen on Sun, 24 April 2016, 19:56:35
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.

I don't think that they have. This set looks awesome and I'd love to buy it, but there have been rather obvious oversights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81385.msg2140597#msg2140597) which doesn't make me confident that it will succeed...

Oh my.. Ahaha. At least this isn't a group buy thread.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: fengshaun on Sun, 24 April 2016, 21:33:27
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.

I don't think that they have. This set looks awesome and I'd love to buy it, but there have been rather obvious oversights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81385.msg2140597#msg2140597) which doesn't make me confident that it will succeed...

Oh my.. Ahaha. At least this isn't a group buy thread.

Well, the problems can be sorted out with feedback! The concept looks awesome, still!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 25 April 2016, 10:25:14
LOL lets hope they planned this out better than that.

I don't think that they have. This set looks awesome and I'd love to buy it, but there have been rather obvious oversights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81385.msg2140597#msg2140597) which doesn't make me confident that it will succeed...

Oh my.. Ahaha. At least this isn't a group buy thread.

Well, the problems can be sorted out with feedback! The concept looks awesome, still!

you can but SP still doesn't have the "pastel" colors used in the renders. Realistically using SP ABS colors it would be something like this
(http://i.imgur.com/JEZPuwi.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 25 April 2016, 10:53:06
Definitely interested- but another vote for non-standard key types.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: quantrix on Mon, 25 April 2016, 23:08:37
The SP mock-up is pretty bad.  The light text on the dark keys is nice by itself, but all of the colors don't work together at all.

Jellykey, did you plan on being able to get these colors?

I'm close to un-watching because it's almost looking like there's no point.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 26 April 2016, 00:07:58
The SP mock-up is pretty bad.  The light text on the dark keys is nice by itself, but all of the colors don't work together at all.

Jellykey, did you plan on being able to get these colors?

I'm close to un-watching because it's almost looking like there's no point.

Theres a few different colors you can swap in an out, depending on what you would think is the closest (also, KLE isnt the most accurate for colors as they look IRL mind you) but still, there is really nothing close to multiple colors they used. Very worrisome.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 26 April 2016, 16:36:08
The SP mock-up is pretty bad.  The light text on the dark keys is nice by itself, but all of the colors don't work together at all.

Jellykey, did you plan on being able to get these colors?

I'm close to un-watching because it's almost looking like there's no point.

Oh come on, the sheer entertainment value alone makes it worth checking in on this one ;)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: fengshaun on Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:35:26
can we get a finalized mockup with correct colors? The SP mockup is pretty disappointing. I would like a confirmation for colors from jellykey.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 29 April 2016, 08:10:47
I want this keyset so bad!  I'm skeptical about the colors being actually available, but I'm definitely interested.  More keyset makers need to make the base kit a 60% like this.  TKL base kits as the only option suck.  30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 29 April 2016, 08:14:14
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?

I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Data on Fri, 29 April 2016, 08:20:33
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?

I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...

He's close.  It's 29.5%.  But a greater percentage (34.6%) goes to TKL, so his point falls utterly flat.

2015 Reddit community survey (https://wlhlm.github.io/rmk-march-2015-survey/kb.html)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 29 April 2016, 08:53:42
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?

I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...

He's close.  It's 29.5%.  But a greater percentage (34.6%) goes to TKL, so his point falls utterly flat.

2015 Reddit community survey (https://wlhlm.github.io/rmk-march-2015-survey/kb.html)

Wow, just from 2014 to 2015 full size dropped 20 percentage points while 60% more than doubled.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 29 April 2016, 09:20:49
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?

I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...

He's close.  It's 29.5%.  But a greater percentage (34.6%) goes to TKL, so his point falls utterly flat.

2015 Reddit community survey (https://wlhlm.github.io/rmk-march-2015-survey/kb.html)

My point doesn't fall "utterly flat".  Firstly, you're using outdated survey data.  Here is the most recent 2016 Winter Survey (http://gomechanicalkeyboard.com/mechanical-keyboard-winter-survey-2016/).  30% goes to 60% keyboards (up 0.5%) while 32% goes to TKL (down 2.6%).  Despite the fact that TKL holds a larger share of the market, its popularity is dropping and 60% is increasing.  Pok3r still holds top spot for favorite keyboard and that's ignoring the fact that Poker X and Poker II are still very prevalent.  Finally, regardless that TKL is slightly more popular than 60% (and falling), offering a base kit in 60% has no effect on the price of TKL keysets but DOES lower the price for 60% users as they are getting less keys.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 29 April 2016, 09:45:53
30% of the market is 60% users and the most popular keyboard is the Poker line so why force a TKL base kit?

I wanna know where you got these numbers from, because that doesn't sound accurate at all...

He's close.  It's 29.5%.  But a greater percentage (34.6%) goes to TKL, so his point falls utterly flat.

2015 Reddit community survey (https://wlhlm.github.io/rmk-march-2015-survey/kb.html)

My point doesn't fall "utterly flat".  Firstly, you're using outdated survey data.  Here is the most recent 2016 Winter Survey (http://gomechanicalkeyboard.com/mechanical-keyboard-winter-survey-2016/).  30% goes to 60% keyboards (up 0.5%) while 32% goes to TKL (down 2.6%).  Despite the fact that TKL holds a larger share of the market, its popularity is dropping and 60% is increasing.  Pok3r still holds top spot for favorite keyboard and that's ignoring the fact that Poker X and Poker II are still very prevalent.  Finally, regardless that TKL is slightly more popular than 60% (and falling), offering a base kit in 60% has no effect on the price of TKL keysets but DOES lower the price for 60% users as they are getting less keys.

I have no problems with most keysets starting off as a 60% base, as long as the price reflects that and as long as someone can get the base kit + TKL kit for roughly the same price as what TKL base kits run now.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:09:53
I have no problems with most keysets starting off as a 60% base, as long as the price reflects that and as long as someone can get the base kit + TKL kit for roughly the same price as what TKL base kits run now.

Yeah, of course.  That's what I want too.  I just want an option for a 60% base.  Group buys are starting to offer 40%/Planck base kits for the few people that use them. 60% should be offered as well is all I'm saying.

Example: the Hana DSA GB base kit (TKL) came with 25 unusable or unwanted keys. 91 keys in the base, 60 fit the 60% and another 6 were alternate color/size keys. So if this would have been a 60% set with 66 keys, you're looking at 27.5% less keys.  I know it probably doesn't correlate to 27% reduction in price, but let's say it does for a best case scenario. The base kit drop shipped at $52 so reduce the price by 72.5%: $52* 0.725 = $37.70.  May be just wishful thinking, but will all these awesome sets coming out, I'd rather pay for exactly what I need.  That $14 saved could help some get the next set (maybe the Chocolatier!) or step up an get the novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:16:17
Update 3: http://imgur.com/a/4zegm . We're working :)

(http://i.imgur.com/6Krk8ed.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aSrcFg1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nxC42Kt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Si7gEw3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9HvbYee.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6vDkhEy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Q63iZUj.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: caligo on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:31:22
Man, that's quite a departure from the original concept.  :eek: I don't know about that yellow, kind of makes this Modern Selectric with some extra splashes of color.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 29 April 2016, 14:50:59
Annnnnnndddddd................... They added F keys to the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: romevi on Fri, 29 April 2016, 14:54:17
Ooh... Dreamy!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 29 April 2016, 14:54:32
removed.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 29 April 2016, 15:10:55
Seriously why are F-Keys included in the base?  Even 75% keyboards have arrows so what board would the base kit even fit?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: quantrix on Fri, 29 April 2016, 15:58:42
Agreed.  If the base kit is going to be 60%, don't include F keys.  Put F keys in a TKL set along with arrows and the nav cluster.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:47:34
Why have F keys in a base kit, but not fill out the rest of the TKL? That makes no sense, at all.

Also, not a whole lot of point having a steeped caps is you aren't catering to the rest of the keys a winkeyless keyboard needs.

Why have all the double forum novelties?

Take some time to actually look at the keyboards and figure out why many kits you see actually have the certain keys in them, and why certain keys commonly grouped together.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: stix on Sun, 01 May 2016, 10:00:30
Oh please God go back to 'update 2'  :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: caligo on Sun, 01 May 2016, 10:35:49
I don't think they can go back to update two, unless they manage to convince SP it's worth the hustle to do custom ABS colors (which probably won't happen any time soon). The problem is that they just picked colors that looked nice without researching whether SP was actually able to produce anything resembling it. But I think a proper redesign would have to start from scratch, rather than trying to bridge the gap between the original concept and SP's color palette.

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Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: mind_funeral on Sun, 01 May 2016, 15:12:01
More thought goes into an unplanned pregnancy than went into this set lmao
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: caligo on Mon, 02 May 2016, 05:30:11
Nah, I think a lot of thought went into the aesthetics – the initial concept looks really neat. The logistics of actually producing the caps, that's another story. But having lots of experience of and talent for the former does not automatically mean you know all the ins and outs of dealing with SP and what they can or cannot do.

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Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: mind_funeral on Mon, 02 May 2016, 09:39:54
When designing something, you design to the material available, though.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Mon, 02 May 2016, 14:05:51
More thought goes into an unplanned pregnancy than went into this set lmao

Lmfao. I do hope this does come to fruition. I like the theme a lot.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: stix on Mon, 02 May 2016, 17:36:44
Are there not other manufacturers able to offer a full pallet? GMK for example?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 03 May 2016, 13:17:49
Are there not other manufacturers able to offer a full pallet? GMK for example?

GMK has a very limited palette of standard colors. 
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Wed, 04 May 2016, 03:23:47
Why have F keys in a base kit, but not fill out the rest of the TKL? That makes no sense, at all.

Also, not a whole lot of point having a steeped caps is you aren't catering to the rest of the keys a winkeyless keyboard needs.

Why have all the double forum novelties?

Take some time to actually look at the keyboards and figure out why many kits you see actually have the certain keys in them, and why certain keys commonly grouped together.

Agreed.  If the base kit is going to be 60%, don't include F keys.  Put F keys in a TKL set along with arrows and the nav cluster.

Annnnnnndddddd................... They added F keys to the base kit.

Seriously why are F-Keys included in the base?  Even 75% keyboards have arrows so what board would the base kit even fit?

Sorry for the confusion of Base Kit. We meant to put it together for preview purpose. We will make it clear in the next Update
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Wed, 04 May 2016, 03:30:35
I don't think they can go back to update two, unless they manage to convince SP it's worth the hustle to do custom ABS colors (which probably won't happen any time soon). The problem is that they just picked colors that looked nice without researching whether SP was actually able to produce anything resembling it. But I think a proper redesign would have to start from scratch, rather than trying to bridge the gap between the original concept and SP's color palette.

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Nah, I think a lot of thought went into the aesthetics – the initial concept looks really neat. The logistics of actually producing the caps, that's another story. But having lots of experience of and talent for the former does not automatically mean you know all the ins and outs of dealing with SP and what they can or cannot do.

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Man, that's quite a departure from the original concept.  :eek: I don't know about that yellow, kind of makes this Modern Selectric with some extra splashes of color.

It's correct. SP has very limited color options. So, we have to change the set with their available color.
Our designer is learning Solidworks, she will finish the 3D Render very soon.
It will allow us to have a better look and feel about the Key Set.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: caligo on Wed, 04 May 2016, 03:49:30
I don't think they can go back to update two, unless they manage to convince SP it's worth the hustle to do custom ABS colors (which probably won't happen any time soon). The problem is that they just picked colors that looked nice without researching whether SP was actually able to produce anything resembling it. But I think a proper redesign would have to start from scratch, rather than trying to bridge the gap between the original concept and SP's color palette.

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Nah, I think a lot of thought went into the aesthetics – the initial concept looks really neat. The logistics of actually producing the caps, that's another story. But having lots of experience of and talent for the former does not automatically mean you know all the ins and outs of dealing with SP and what they can or cannot do.

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Man, that's quite a departure from the original concept.  :eek: I don't know about that yellow, kind of makes this Modern Selectric with some extra splashes of color.

It's correct. SP has very limited color options. So, we have to change the set with their available color.
Our designer is learning Solidworks, she will finish the 3D Render very soon.
It will allow us to have a better look and feel about the Key Set.
That's great, but I think you are going about it the wrong way. The initial concept was based around a gradient from dark blue to green, whereas the new concept contains three colors: blue, green, and yellow. I get that the yellow was the closest match to the rightmost green from the initial concept, but it's still quite a stark departure from what you started with and breaks the gradient that tied the color scheme together.

I'd suggest you start designing from the palette you have to work with, rather than trying to reverse engineer the initial concept using the SP color palette. The first two iterations of the set where really interesting; the current rendition feels kind of meh, at least to me personally (and apparently also to a lot of people here in the thread).

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Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 04 May 2016, 04:17:11
SP has very limited color options.
This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).

However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: stix on Wed, 04 May 2016, 07:07:28
SP has very limited color options.
This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).

However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).

Being completely honest, I would rather pay a premium for a product that ticks all boxes than have another half baked generic set.

[edit] spelling
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 04 May 2016, 11:05:32
SP has very limited color options.
This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).

However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).

Being completely honest, I would rather pay a premium for a product that ticks all boxes than have another half baked generic set.

[edit] spelling

That are my thoughts too.

However these guys should gather more infos about the possibillities. Actually there are enough info around. I highly suggest reading previous GB. Try to figure out, why some things has been done in a particular way. Basically SP provides already enough info on their homepage. But they have also to communicate with SP. 90% of work in a project is communication and info managment.

My suggestion is to stick with original colorway, gather needed information and build up communication with SP.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 04 May 2016, 11:35:41
this was shaping up to be one of the most interesting SA sets i have seen, until the rework. unless the green keys are removed, my interest is lost :/
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: derpingit on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:03:57
totally IN.. maaan..looks like2016 is gonna be a killer for my wallet
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: pwade3 on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:07:33
totally IN.. maaan..looks like2016 is gonna be a killer for my wallet

I don't think this set will be taking your money any time soon.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Kangaroo on Thu, 05 May 2016, 05:37:28
And with the new colours goes my interest in this. Was really excited about the original design - shame it's not possible. :(
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 05 May 2016, 17:15:32
Not digging that green. :(
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 05 May 2016, 17:29:37
SP has very limited color options.
This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).

However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).

You guys have NO idea what you are talking about. SP has more colors than ANY other manufacturer out there. You just didnt do your basic research first.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: imprevade on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:47:30
More thought goes into an unplanned pregnancy than went into this set lmao

but they spent "after 2 weeks of non-stop developing and designing" lol
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: mind_funeral on Mon, 09 May 2016, 12:02:11
More thought goes into an unplanned pregnancy than went into this set lmao

but they spent "after 2 weeks of non-stop developing and designing" lol

But, but, but.... 2-D drawings of squares and using the fill tool is harddddd  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Tue, 17 May 2016, 11:14:20
SP has very limited color options.
This statement i so wrong. Wrong wrong wrong!
You guys are new right? If you compare SPs color palette to other manufactures, you will see SP has the richest color palette ever (afaik).

However if you want your previous colorway, you should ask SP for custom colors. But be aware custom colors will increase the pricing. AFAIK the TOXIC keyset was the first one with custom color (lime green).

You guys have NO idea what you are talking about. SP has more colors than ANY other manufacturer out there. You just didnt do your basic research first.

Hey, we did some research thanks to you. Let us play around with the color little more :)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Tue, 17 May 2016, 11:16:39
totally IN.. maaan..looks like2016 is gonna be a killer for my wallet

I don't think this set will be taking your money any time soon.  :))

It's true. Making a keyset isn't easy, we have a lot to learn from community, and SP is full  :(
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: caligo on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:15:52
There are people on GH far more knowledgeable than me when it comes to these things, but wouldn't it be easier to just go for a more conventional key profile and work with a company like GMK to produce a keyset with the colors you actually wanted from the start? Spericals are nice and all, but there are lots of companies that make keycaps and some of them might be more inclined to do custom colors.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Waateva on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:25:37
There are people on GH far more knowledgeable than me when it comes to these things, but wouldn't it be easier to just go for a more conventional key profile and work with a company like GMK to produce a keyset with the colors you actually wanted from the start? Spericals are nice and all, but there are lots of companies that make keycaps and some of them might be more inclined to do custom colors.

My understanding is that GMK is probably the least likely to do custom colors without a massive MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:28:23
There are people on GH far more knowledgeable than me when it comes to these things, but wouldn't it be easier to just go for a more conventional key profile and work with a company like GMK to produce a keyset with the colors you actually wanted from the start? Spericals are nice and all, but there are lots of companies that make keycaps and some of them might be more inclined to do custom colors.

For the time being, we use this keyset as a learning opportunity. Our knowledge was starting from zero when it come to the keyset, but thanks to you and others, we learn some and have more to learn.
We are doing some research about GMK product as well; we may show you some result of our learning process later on.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:31:18

Jelly key arranged 1 gb in VN before. I tried most of their artisan keycaps, can't beat the look though.


That's the thing, I don't know how big the mech community in VN is, but for me, 1 local gb isn't as reassuring as one that those of us in the US or Europe would be able to partake in.

You are right. It's a long journey for a newcomer like us. Hope that we can deliver one of our keycap to you.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: caligo on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:36:14
My understanding is that GMK is probably the least likely to do custom colors without a massive MOQ.

Yeah, there's that as well I guess… Was mostly the first manifacturer that came to mind, and they do explicitly state that they do custom colors on their web page.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: cheddarbek on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:12:22
I love this colorway!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Mon, 30 May 2016, 12:39:00
Update 4: 3D Render

Finally, our designer knows how to use Solidworks. Hope you guys like her work

- Fullsize:
(https://i.imgur.com/O0Z8xEA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uiGWyaB.jpg)

- 60% plus F row

(http://i.imgur.com/z4VQy2X.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5Gm15iw.jpg)

- Close up

(https://i.imgur.com/tIXDjmh.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Suruga Devil on Mon, 30 May 2016, 15:42:42
As much as I like the design, I have to ask- how the hell are you going to get the cash to make 16 custom doubleshot legends? Each one of those requires new tooling, which I've heard is expensive...

Am I missing something or flat-out wrong?

EDIT: 18, actually, since the "X" on the numpad and "FUNC" are new legends as well.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 30 May 2016, 16:48:48
$50 per legend, IIRC.  16 isn't an insurmountable quantity.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: WOMBO on Mon, 30 May 2016, 17:09:45
really pretty colorway but not sure i'd ever actually use it tbh

what's with the symbols? they don't look like they have much to do with starry night or jellykeys
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Suruga Devil on Mon, 30 May 2016, 17:14:49
$50 per legend, IIRC.  16 isn't an insurmountable quantity.

Cheaper than I remembered. Still, it's worth noting, since it will take the price up a notch.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Willyc277 on Mon, 30 May 2016, 22:26:31
lol no 'K' keycap, gg bro


Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: romevi on Mon, 30 May 2016, 22:46:14
lol no 'K' keycap, gg bro

Holy cow. Didn't even catch that. Good eye.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 30 May 2016, 22:47:58
$50 per legend, IIRC.  16 isn't an insurmountable quantity.

Cheaper than I remembered. Still, it's worth noting, since it will take the price up a notch.

It shouldn't be hugely bad.  Carbon had quite a number of unique keys involved and upcoming sets like Rebel and Yuri are looking at almost complete alphabet changes for Aurebesh and Cyrillic respectively.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: joinhandmade on Tue, 31 May 2016, 03:40:27
$50 per legend, IIRC.  16 isn't an insurmountable quantity.

Cheaper than I remembered. Still, it's worth noting, since it will take the price up a notch.

It shouldn't be hugely bad.  Carbon had quite a number of unique keys involved and upcoming sets like Rebel and Yuri are looking at almost complete alphabet changes for Aurebesh and Cyrillic respectively.

I'm aware of it. Let me check with SP after the design is about 90% done. Thank you!

lol no 'K' keycap, gg bro

Haha good eyes. someone is about to have a big minus on their paid check.


Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: caligo on Tue, 31 May 2016, 05:05:47
What font are you guys using for that render? It's not SP's Gorton Modified for sure, that's way chunkier. For example, look at the curly brackets on the Round 5 keys – the line width here seems to be at least twice that of whichever font you're using. Not that light fonts are not nice (though perhaps not the most legible), but I doubt SP would be able to do something with those hair thin lines even if you paid them to make custom moulds for all the keys in the set.
(http://i.imgur.com/U2nqDTP.jpg) 
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: dspiel on Tue, 31 May 2016, 21:14:22
I would order this for my ergodox
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: daybreak365 on Wed, 01 June 2016, 01:16:15
This is one of the most beautiful sets I've ever seen. Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Data on Wed, 01 June 2016, 07:04:12
Damn, those renders are HOT.   :eek:

What font are you guys using for that render? It's not SP's Gorton Modified for sure, that's way chunkier. For example, look at the curly brackets on the Round 5 keys – the line width here seems to be at least twice that of whichever font you're using. Not that light fonts are not nice (though perhaps not the most legible), but I doubt SP would be able to do something with those hair thin lines even if you paid them to make custom moulds for all the keys in the set.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/U2nqDTP.jpg)


In fairness, I don't believe SP's Gorton Modified is an actual computer font.  That makes it really difficult to produce renders that exactly match the final SP keycaps.  But there are plenty of fonts that come close.  In my research, it appears that German design house URW Studio (https://www.urwpp.de/) purchased the rights to the original Gorton engraver's font (Gorton is a brand of engraving machines) in the 90s and produced their URW Gordon font (notice the subtle name change) from it.  It's a nearly perfect replica of the original.  SP has made some changes to the original Gorton, which is why they call it Gorton Modified.  They explain this briefly on their web site (http://keycapsdirect.com/processes.php).  There are a few other PC fonts that imitate the Gorton look.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: caligo on Wed, 01 June 2016, 11:31:40
In fairness, I don't believe SP's Gorton Modified is an actual computer font.  That makes it really difficult to produce renders that exactly match the final SP keycaps.  But there are plenty of fonts that come close.  In my research, it appears that German design house URW Studio (https://www.urwpp.de/) purchased the rights to the original Gorton engraver's font (Gorton is a brand of engraving machines) in the 90s and produced their URW Gordon font (notice the subtle name change) from it.  It's a nearly perfect replica of the original.  SP has made some changes to the original Gorton, which is why they call it Gorton Modified.  They explain this briefly on their web site (http://keycapsdirect.com/processes.php).  There are a few other PC fonts that imitate the Gorton look.

An exact match would indeed be difficult, but Engineering Plot (http://www.dafont.com/engineering-plot.font) or some other free plotter font would be a fairly good approximation style-wise. Also, nice bit of typeface history. I guess that means URW Gordon would be a good starting point if one wanted to make legends that are not covered by Gorton Modified.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: TheVengeance on Wed, 01 June 2016, 13:38:34
Would have preferred something more muted that would have matched or at least complimented the SA Starry Night Space and the RGB caps I've purchased.

I guess SP don't do glitter, but a darker set with nicely coloured legends would have worked nicely.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: SpareWalrus on Fri, 30 September 2016, 22:04:17
Any further updates on this? Did this key set ever get made?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: sageco on Mon, 03 October 2016, 04:51:43
This is really quite nice   
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Hypocaffeinic on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:13:54
Update would be good, just read through the whole thread and it seems to have flatlined rather abruptly... :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:23:20
It "flat lined" because as you probably read, the font they used was not available and neither were the colors. In updated versions they used some of the SP standard colors, but those didn't look very good at all IMO...

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Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Lost2Frostbite on Mon, 03 October 2016, 23:18:24
Perhaps do a gmk? They have more options for colors correct?


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Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: drakeonyou on Tue, 04 October 2016, 01:50:37
I'm down for SA.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: MUMU on Tue, 04 October 2016, 12:57:17
will there be a 1.75 shift and 1.5 backspace(whitefox)? :D
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Venediction on Tue, 04 October 2016, 21:25:04
Sign me up!! Though only part I am unsure about is the colorway of the arrow keys  :-\
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: josephwilk on Wed, 05 October 2016, 05:06:06
SA ergodox would be nice. Row 2 or row 3 novelties would be nice fir the ergodox layout.  I miss the old light green but it's still a lovely set.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 05 October 2016, 13:20:52
Would love SA Ergodox!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Biggestmac on Sun, 16 October 2016, 05:58:57
I really want to see this set happen. It would be on one of my "end game" keyboards for damn sure!
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sat, 26 May 2018, 21:00:32
Would love to see this revived.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Gghi on Sun, 27 May 2018, 17:54:41
always wanna an "R1 R2 R3 R4" planck kit. Is it possible?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: goodman247 on Sun, 27 May 2018, 22:48:23
This set is a great idea and matches the design of Jellykey a lot!! Would love to see this happen.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: __foo_ on Mon, 28 May 2018, 00:34:47
Been a year and a half, JK probably lost the interest in this keyset already :(
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: 1Weeb on Thu, 31 May 2018, 15:19:23
it's been a while, I'm assuming this IC is dead?
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Thu, 19 July 2018, 09:19:54
Love the editions novelty kit.
Title: Re: [IC] - JellyKey - SA - Starry Night Keyset
Post by: Phyltre on Wed, 01 July 2020, 13:15:55
Starry Night come back.  :(