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Title: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 April 2016, 17:05:05
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Sigh..............

Begrudgingly...  Yes...

The accuracy of the cut is fantastic, and their height profile is well chosen..

The Price is well......... reflective of that slippery prowess..


I am angry at how expensive they are $10...ffffffffkkkkkk..  But From an engineering stand point.. They are excellent and live up to the hype..



Screw you Hyperglide.. I h8 youuuuu


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Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 18 April 2016, 17:12:36
I didn't know that those existed.
Too bad they are so expensive.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: drewba on Mon, 18 April 2016, 17:16:50
I might be interested if my G5 or G502 feet ever fully fell off, but so far so good.

Slightly related, I just washed my mousepad (Glorious XL) after roughly 6 months of use and I've noticed a dramatic improvement in mouse movement.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: munch on Mon, 18 April 2016, 17:18:04
:) yes they are. no other feet are even close.
I'm not even sure how or why, but darn are they good.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 April 2016, 17:53:00
:) yes they are. no other feet are even close.
I'm not even sure how or why, but darn are they good.

I believe Convex punching is their secret sauce..

__ Most other feet are punched on a flat-punch, so the feet come out flat.

____ the Hyperglides are not flat, they are convex, a definite bowling-out on the glide-side

Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: munch on Mon, 18 April 2016, 19:58:57
:) yes they are. no other feet are even close.
I'm not even sure how or why, but darn are they good.

I believe Convex punching is their secret sauce..

__ Most other feet are punched on a flat-punch, so the feet come out flat.

____ the Hyperglides are not flat, they are convex, a definite bowling-out on the glide-side



yeah. just that I thought other feet were also made with rounded edges... or at least they claim so.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 April 2016, 20:28:16
:) yes they are. no other feet are even close.
I'm not even sure how or why, but darn are they good.

I believe Convex punching is their secret sauce..

__ Most other feet are punched on a flat-punch, so the feet come out flat.

____ the Hyperglides are not flat, they are convex, a definite bowling-out on the glide-side



yeah. just that I thought other feet were also made with rounded edges... or at least they claim so.

Whenever you punch something, the edges are technically round, so they can claim whatever they want to claim..
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 18 April 2016, 20:52:53
:) yes they are. no other feet are even close.
I'm not even sure how or why, but darn are they good.

I believe Convex punching is their secret sauce..

__ Most other feet are punched on a flat-punch, so the feet come out flat.

____ the Hyperglides are not flat, they are convex, a definite bowling-out on the glide-side



yeah. just that I thought other feet were also made with rounded edges... or at least they claim so.

Whenever you punch something, the edges are technically round, so they can claim whatever they want to claim..

This is true. Someone punched me once and my face edge became rounded. Confirmed!

Seriously though, $10 doesn't seem like a bad price for what you're getting in return. Small price to pay for a smooth gliding mouse
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 April 2016, 21:46:29

This is true. Someone punched me once and my face edge became rounded. Confirmed!

Seriously though, $10 doesn't seem like a bad price for what you're getting in return. Small price to pay for a smooth gliding mouse

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The problem is, it's just tooooo expensive for what it is..
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 April 2016, 22:20:56
I might be interested if my G5 or G502 feet ever fully fell off, but so far so good.

Slightly related, I just washed my mousepad (Glorious XL) after roughly 6 months of use and I've noticed a dramatic improvement in mouse movement.

I use a soft-bristle tooth brush and some mild detergent when I clean the mouse pad..
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: Melvang on Mon, 18 April 2016, 22:33:38
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Can be cut with quality sharp scissors, edges smoothed with a single edged razor blade.  Also, UHMW has a very low coefficient of friction, and has 15 times the abrasion resistance of carbon steel, both attributes it trumps teflon.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: munch on Mon, 18 April 2016, 23:55:15
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Can be cut with quality sharp scissors, edges smoothed with a single edged razor blade.  Also, UHMW has a very low coefficient of friction, and has 15 times the abrasion resistance of carbon steel, both attributes it trumps teflon.

less friction than teflon?
I'd love to try this if it'd work as well on textile/cloth pads.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: Melvang on Tue, 19 April 2016, 00:01:23
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Can be cut with quality sharp scissors, edges smoothed with a single edged razor blade.  Also, UHMW has a very low coefficient of friction, and has 15 times the abrasion resistance of carbon steel, both attributes it trumps teflon.

less friction than teflon?
I'd love to try this if it'd work as well on textile/cloth pads.

The biggest issue would be getting the cut edges smooth enough to not snag, but if you cut ovals/circles and are careful with a sharp utility/razor knife, it shouldn't be to much of an issue.  But for use on cloth/other soft pads, I doubt there would be much difference.  Have to remember coefficient of friction is dependent on many varaibles including but not limited to pressure applied against the two surfaces (especially so in soft pads due to deformation of the surface), surface finish (more so on hard pads), material of both surfaces, along with others that aren't coming to mind right now.  With that said, most soft pads I have seen are "control" pads, which essentially means the naturally have more friction so the mouse stops quicker and easier.  Where UHMW really will shine is on hard pads including hard plastics, and metals.  Essentially if one material has a significantly higher CoF, the other will make much less difference than if they are close to each other.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: munch on Tue, 19 April 2016, 00:08:54
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Can be cut with quality sharp scissors, edges smoothed with a single edged razor blade.  Also, UHMW has a very low coefficient of friction, and has 15 times the abrasion resistance of carbon steel, both attributes it trumps teflon.

less friction than teflon?
I'd love to try this if it'd work as well on textile/cloth pads.

The biggest issue would be getting the cut edges smooth enough to not snag, but if you cut ovals/circles and are careful with a sharp utility/razor knife, it shouldn't be to much of an issue.  But for use on cloth/other soft pads, I doubt there would be much difference.  Have to remember coefficient of friction is dependent on many varaibles including but not limited to pressure applied against the two surfaces (especially so in soft pads due to deformation of the surface), surface finish (more so on hard pads), material of both surfaces, along with others that aren't coming to mind right now.  With that said, most soft pads I have seen are "control" pads, which essentially means the naturally have more friction so the mouse stops quicker and easier.  Where UHMW really will shine is on hard pads including hard plastics, and metals.  Essentially if one material has a significantly higher CoF, the other will make much less difference than if they are close to each other.

yeah that makes sense... but I do prefer the feel of cloth for more ergonomic reasons rather than performance, so anything to make static friction lower/closer to a hard pad would be great for me :p
wonder if it'd be possible to have them cut like hyperglide...
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 19 April 2016, 00:52:51
is it that good?

if yes, then might wanna get a set and try
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 19 April 2016, 00:57:35
$10 mouse feet seems... excessive. I'm sure you could buy the material and cut it yourself somehow.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 02:05:22
is it that good?

if yes, then might wanna get a set and try

The last time I tried hyperglide was for the mx510/518v1,  that _version_ of the hyperglide is on the -thinner- side. and so did not make that big a difference.

The hyperglide I got this time is the WMO ones and G400 ones..  In this case, they are much thicker, and better performing than all other feet i've tried (hotline/ tiger).

Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 02:09:25
$10 mouse feet seems... excessive. I'm sure you could buy the material and cut it yourself somehow.

You can not cut the material to this shape without some sort of manual polishing process.

It's not just the outer edge shape which makes the hyperglides smooth, It's this bowl shape contour in the z-axis from the convex punching.


I also don't see virgin teflon sheets on ebay.

The ones from China, that would make this project "within a reasonable budget" are mechanical grade teflon..  It is smooth for the most part, but it's harder and not as soft as virgin grade teflon.


It may be posssssible to get to this shape and quality on your own,  But not without a labor input well exceeding $10..

Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 19 April 2016, 02:26:50
is it that good?

if yes, then might wanna get a set and try

The last time I tried hyperglide was for the mx510/518v1,  that _version_ of the hyperglide is on the -thinner- side. and so did not make that big a difference.

The hyperglide I got this time is the WMO ones and G400 ones..  In this case, they are much thicker, and better performing than all other feet i've tried (hotline/ tiger).

Okay, guess I have to buy and try it myself then.... *googling for hyperglides for my mouse*
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 02:49:21

Okay, guess I have to buy and try it myself then.... *googling for hyperglides for my mouse*

which mouse are you looking to add skates to.

Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 19 April 2016, 03:01:35

Okay, guess I have to buy and try it myself then.... *googling for hyperglides for my mouse*

which mouse are you looking to add skates to.

just found out that there are no hyperglides for my main mouse (Asus Strix Claw) sad....

but I found hyperglides for my SS Kana, will it work with Kana v2? (my secondary mouse)
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 03:08:08

Okay, guess I have to buy and try it myself then.... *googling for hyperglides for my mouse*

which mouse are you looking to add skates to.

just found out that there are no hyperglides for my main mouse (Asus Strix Claw) sad....

but I found hyperglides for my SS Kana, will it work with Kana v2? (my secondary mouse)

wouldn't spend $10 unless for main..

$10 man, $10...  that's 20 packs of ramen, or 3 hamburgers, 5 everything hotdogs,

hahahaha...
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: munch on Tue, 19 April 2016, 03:34:42

Okay, guess I have to buy and try it myself then.... *googling for hyperglides for my mouse*

which mouse are you looking to add skates to.

just found out that there are no hyperglides for my main mouse (Asus Strix Claw) sad....

but I found hyperglides for my SS Kana, will it work with Kana v2? (my secondary mouse)

Kana v1 and v2 have the same feet, so should work.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 19 April 2016, 03:35:14

Okay, guess I have to buy and try it myself then.... *googling for hyperglides for my mouse*

which mouse are you looking to add skates to.

just found out that there are no hyperglides for my main mouse (Asus Strix Claw) sad....

but I found hyperglides for my SS Kana, will it work with Kana v2? (my secondary mouse)

wouldn't spend $10 unless for main..

$10 man, $10...  that's 20 packs of ramen, or 3 hamburgers, 5 everything hotdogs,

hahahaha...

Hmm... you have a point here, then I guess it's next time for me to try them hyperglides.

Gotta save up for them hamburgers and hotdogs..


Okay, guess I have to buy and try it myself then.... *googling for hyperglides for my mouse*

which mouse are you looking to add skates to.

just found out that there are no hyperglides for my main mouse (Asus Strix Claw) sad....

but I found hyperglides for my SS Kana, will it work with Kana v2? (my secondary mouse)

Kana v1 and v2 have the same feet, so should work.

thanks for this info, now have to decide... hamburgers or hyperglides....
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 19 April 2016, 04:00:50
Someone recommend a good hyperglide model for Logitech G900, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 04:02:02
Someone recommend a good hyperglide model for Logitech G900, thanks. :)

g900 is brand new, surely you could not have worn through the feets already ?
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 19 April 2016, 04:11:17
Someone recommend a good hyperglide model for Logitech G900, thanks. :)

g900 is brand new, surely you could not have worn through the feets already ?

are the original glides of G900 not good enough? I mean, there are mice with ****ty stock glides, but is G900 so?
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 09:30:39
So tp.. you put that under your g100s yes?
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 10:25:40
So tp.. you put that under your g100s yes?

No, those are for wmo..

I ordered a different set for g100s. one with the center c-ring..

Hyperglide doesn't make a set for g100 or 100s.

It's so weird, but the center ring stock feet is -not teflon-..

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Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: Bromono on Tue, 19 April 2016, 12:07:45
TP4 spends more money on his mice then his keyboard
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 12:47:22
TP4 spends more money on his mice then his keyboard

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Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 13:21:03
So tp.. you put that under your g100s yes?

No, those are for wmo..

I ordered a different set for g100s. one with the center c-ring..

Hyperglide doesn't make a set for g100 or 100s.

It's so weird, but the center ring stock feet is -not teflon-..

WHY.... WHY..................
Show Image
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Coz logitech cheap bastards!
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 14:51:37
So tp.. you put that under your g100s yes?

No, those are for wmo..

I ordered a different set for g100s. one with the center c-ring..

Hyperglide doesn't make a set for g100 or 100s.

It's so weird, but the center ring stock feet is -not teflon-..

WHY.... WHY..................
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bleeding-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862492)


Coz logitech cheap bastards!

Possibly they weren't expecting to sell that many ?

So they had to cut every possible corner ?


I don't see any larger filter capacitors like on the other more expensive mice.

And They didn't use the two piece scroll wheel design which is iconic of logitech mice.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 14:53:04
So tp.. you put that under your g100s yes?

No, those are for wmo..

I ordered a different set for g100s. one with the center c-ring..

Hyperglide doesn't make a set for g100 or 100s.

It's so weird, but the center ring stock feet is -not teflon-..

WHY.... WHY..................
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bleeding-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862492)


Coz logitech cheap bastards!

Possibly they weren't expecting to sell that many ?

So they had to cut every possible corner ?

I see what u did there... cut.. every.. possibru.. corner.. of them glidez.

Apparently they didn't expect this mouse to get used? I mean.. mice are useless without proper glidez.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 19 April 2016, 15:06:02
Someone recommend a good hyperglide model for Logitech G900, thanks. :)

g900 is brand new, surely you could not have worn through the feets already ?

Using it for the first week felt like pushing a pebble. It's now only partially worn in, but still doesn't glide as well as Munch's modded out g502 with aftermarket feet. :(
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: munch on Tue, 19 April 2016, 15:43:14
Someone recommend a good hyperglide model for Logitech G900, thanks. :)

g900 is brand new, surely you could not have worn through the feets already ?

Using it for the first week felt like pushing a pebble. It's now only partially worn in, but still doesn't glide as well as Munch's modded out g502 with aftermarket feet. :(

wait until I have my Hyperglides!
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 17:24:03
Someone recommend a good hyperglide model for Logitech G900, thanks. :)

g900 is brand new, surely you could not have worn through the feets already ?

Using it for the first week felt like pushing a pebble. It's now only partially worn in, but still doesn't glide as well as Munch's modded out g502 with aftermarket feet. :(

wait until I have my Hyperglides!

With em new Logitech mice with their feet.. better rip it off and cover the whole bottom in one massive piece of glidez (leave room for them sensor though).

It seems every new Logitech keeps "hanging" on mats occasionally (g100s, g303, g502). I've read it on hardforum and oc as well.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: munch on Tue, 19 April 2016, 17:32:00
big feet feel meh to me, I prefer smaller ones a la MS3.0 or even MX518 (tiny). :p
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 17:32:32
big feet feel meh to me, I prefer smaller ones a la MS3.0 or even MX518 (tiny). :p

Or go savage and remove feet from all mice! Be a pirate!
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 April 2016, 17:47:01
big feet feel meh to me, I prefer smaller ones a la MS3.0 or even MX518 (tiny). :p

only mx518 v1 had the small ones, the 518 v2 haz the big ones like the g400.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 17:52:29
big feet feel meh to me, I prefer smaller ones a la MS3.0 or even MX518 (tiny). :p

only mx518 v1 had the small ones, the 518 v2 haz the big ones like the g400.

Oh yeah I had that mouse... "feet" (you could barely call it that) kept coming off. It was too small.
Title: Re: Are Hyperglides -Worth It- ?
Post by: munch on Tue, 19 April 2016, 17:55:11
big feet feel meh to me, I prefer smaller ones a la MS3.0 or even MX518 (tiny). :p

only mx518 v1 had the small ones, the 518 v2 haz the big ones like the g400.

ah right, I keep forgetting there was a v2. I only ever had v1.