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Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: exia on Fri, 18 December 2009, 13:15:52
is there such a keyboard where those keys are on the left end?
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 December 2009, 13:21:12
come to think of it, that would be nice.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 18 December 2009, 13:23:33
There is a keyboard from DSI, I think, that puts those keys and the numpad on the left, but I don't know of any that has just the page nav cluster on the left side.  The Northgate Evolution has that cluster in the middle.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: MsKeyboard on Fri, 18 December 2009, 13:34:16
Try looking for Left-handed keyboards, they will move those keys and sometimes others to the left side of the board.

Later.......
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: mmgoose on Fri, 18 December 2009, 13:35:47
you could just buy an el-cheapo separate numpad and place that on the left side.

turn mousekeys on and you can use it to navigate pages with arrow keys and page up/down buttons then by press numlock  it can be use as a mice.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 18 December 2009, 13:52:50
Quote from: itlnstln;143518
There is a keyboard from DSI, I think, that puts those keys and the numpad on the left, but I don't know of any that has just the page nav cluster on the left side.  The Northgate Evolution has that cluster in the middle.


Didn't DSI also make a "modular" keyboard where you could move those parts around?
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 18 December 2009, 13:53:55
Quote from: microsoft windows;143538
Didn't DSI also make a "modular" keyboard where you could move those parts around?

You're right, good call.  That one even comes with blue Cherrys.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: exia on Fri, 18 December 2009, 14:11:28
who said i was left handed? right handers rule the world!

but yes, i am looking for a left handed tenkeyless keyboard. my "creative" solution so far would be to buy a left handed keyboard and cut off the numpad, but i would much rather buy one than make one.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 December 2009, 14:13:38
buy HHKB or similar
put normal keyboard to the left of that one
hook both up
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Fri, 18 December 2009, 14:14:47
Quote from: MsKeyboard;143527
Try looking for Left-handed keyboards, they will move those keys and sometimes others to the left side of the board.

Which is ironic, as the standard layout is much more convenient for lefties than for the right-handed majority. Has always puzzled me.

But then, I'm left-handed, so I sure don't mind. :becky:
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: exia on Fri, 18 December 2009, 14:14:51
(http://www.atn.on.ca/Portals/1/Left%20handed%20keyboard%2002.jpg)

now if only that pesky numpad was gone. and the backspace key needs to be bigger, who makes a keyboard with a small backspace key where you have to aim to delete?
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: didjamatic on Fri, 18 December 2009, 15:16:05
Best Layout:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ECOSD3TPL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)(http://www.geekstuff4u.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_8_9.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31Ufy4s-8ZL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 18 December 2009, 17:26:36
What's wrong with the number pad?
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 18 December 2009, 17:51:30
Waste of space.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: twokatmew on Fri, 18 December 2009, 20:28:02
I'm right handed but use a left-handed mouse.  I started doing this after I got tendinitis for the second time.  All servers and most of the computers at work were set up for righties, so by using a left-handed mouse on my own workstations, I was able to balance the load and thus take some of the stress off my right wrist.

It's nice using a left-handed mouse with a 104-key keyboard, as it gets the num pad out of the way and lets me have my mouse closer to the alphanumeric keys.  Plus, I can mouse with my left hand and write with my right!  Much more ergonomic it seems.
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Post by: didjamatic on Fri, 18 December 2009, 20:50:13
^That is one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 December 2009, 21:00:03
wow weird

why wouldnt you just work out BOTH arms?
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: ricercar on Fri, 18 December 2009, 22:41:46
I'm too much a fan of symmetry to do it that way.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 19 December 2009, 07:39:37
Quote from: ch_123;143587
Waste of space.


Personally, I'd say that the Home/End/Pageup/Pagedown cluster and the arrow cluster are more of a waste of space than the number pad. All they do is they add functions that are already built into the number pad. They should make keyboards with just the number pad to save space. That way, entering numbers is easier but it still doesn't take up too much room in a cramped setting.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 09:19:54
Numpad just duplicates the number row, so it's inherently a waste of space unlike the arrow cluster on a Space Saver design. And some software (particularly outside of the magical world of Windows) doesn't work properly with the arrow keys on the numpad. I thought numpad only would be a good idea, then I used such a keyboard and found it finnicky.
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: AndrewZorn on Tue, 22 December 2009, 12:53:20
http://www.dsi-keyboards.com/keyboard/item.php?id=10

(http://www.dsi-keyboards.com/images/db_image/KB-8861XP/KB-8861XP-W-B-large.jpg)

someone asking ME about keyboards just sent me this link
what luck

and really i think this would be nice for a right handed person too, alpha stays closer to the center of the desk, mouse hand close, just like with happy hacking
Title: home/end/p up/ p down/arrows on the left side?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 22 December 2009, 14:55:41
Quote from: ch_123;143679
Numpad just duplicates the number row, so it's inherently a waste of space unlike the arrow cluster on a Space Saver design. And some software (particularly outside of the magical world of Windows) doesn't work properly with the arrow keys on the numpad. I thought numpad only would be a good idea, then I used such a keyboard and found it finnicky.


I've actually found the number pad to make entering large amounts of numbers much easier. I used keyboards without number pads for years and I hated them.