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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: exia on Fri, 18 December 2009, 19:53:35

Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: exia on Fri, 18 December 2009, 19:53:35: is there such a thing? i am looking for a compact keyboard with the F keys.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 18 December 2009, 19:56:01: The Filco Tenkeyless are very compact also, and have a more conventional layout.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 December 2009, 20:00:26: http://www.amazon.com/Compact-Cherry-Mechanical-Switch-Keyboard/dp/B000FOJ4YY

cherry black though

my hhkb has f keys
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
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Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: cheater1034 on Fri, 18 December 2009, 22:51:44: hhkb has f keys, just press fn+#
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: Ranma13 on Fri, 18 December 2009, 23:52:25: I'm pretty sure he means dedicated function keys.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: chimera15 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 00:34:42: Closest is the siig minitouch or the smk's from DSI. It's a big hole in the marketplace.

Of course there are a lot of non mechanical/scissor/linear switch ones like the cherry g84-4100 line.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: YpoCaramel on Sat, 19 December 2009, 01:48:35: Quote from: ripster;143642
There should be cheaper Taiwanese HHKB2 clones next year. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to make one cheaper than $250.

Mechanicals finally being noticed in Asia? They don't even have a importer in Hong Kong, just in Taiwan... Then again, people don't spend much on peripherals around here, shoddy made for internal-China market goods seem to be the norm around here, just I'm not surprised it took people so long to figure out mechanicals...
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: chimera15 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 03:13:38: It occurred to me that I think you could add a line of function keys to a hhk by making a line of switches and double wiring in the matrix for both the function key and the number key? I need to give that a try on my hhk hack....

Let's see, when you close the switch you would have two positive voltages and two grounds...would the voltages add and cause problems? hmm...
Title: Re: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 03:23:01: chimera wrote on 5953 September 1993:

> Of course there are a lot of non mechanical/scissor/linear switch ones
> like the cherry g84-4100 line.

Not a good example. The G84 have mechanical switches with tactile bump
(see ML switch in the wiki). With 282x132x27mm, the G84-4100 is about
the size of the HHKB. It is not exactly HHKB style though because they
squeezed more keys in the same form factor, making it a bit cramped in
comparison.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 05:25:33: Quote from: ripster;143642
There should be cheaper Taiwanese HHKB2 clones next year. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to make one cheaper than $250.

If it's being made by Costar, I think my $250 will be going to Topre anyway...
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 19 December 2009, 06:35:29: is that a hope or a rumor?
the HHKB has been around a while, with no significant imitators (of quality) yet. lowpoly's is probably the best thing coming but it is still a far way off and not necessarily going to be cheaper than the HHKB.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 19 December 2009, 07:44:26: Quote from: ripster;143642
There should be cheaper Taiwanese HHKB2 clones next year. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to make one cheaper than $250.

It doesn't cost even $100 to make any of those keyboards. They just sell them for what people are willing to pay for them. It's just like graphing-calculators. It doesn't cost $100 to make a little thing with a 62x126 pixel monochrome display, 100k of RAM, and 256k of ROM.

The only way prices will be lowered for products like those are if it allows the company to increase their profit or prevent decreases in their profit.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 09:20:45: Congratulations. You have just learned how the world works. You might want to get used to it...
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 10:19:16: Quote from: ripster;143686

And this talk of Costar being an inferior manufacturer is silly. Win some. Lose some.

I agree, Costar make keyboards with high quality keycaps, reliable controllers and exemplary build quality.

Shame they have made a keyboard with all three =P
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 19 December 2009, 11:52:02: Quote from: ch_123;143680
Congratulations. You have just learned how the world works. You might want to get used to it...

I didn't just learn that. I've known that for years! I'm not nearly as dumb as you think, Mr. Condescending-Jerk.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 December 2009, 12:10:19: Quote from: microsoft windows;143703
I didn't just learn that. I've known that for years! I'm not nearly as dumb as you think, Mr. Condescending-Jerk.

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That's something I always miss about America. That and Reese's Pieces.
Title: hhkb style keyboard with the F keys?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 19 December 2009, 12:34:38: Trust me. In America, cows aren't the only jerks around. If they were, driving in the city would be much easier.