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Title: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:17:58
GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack

We're live!

http://www.kbdist.com/gmk-originative

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(https://s9.postimg.org/pv5rgat7z/R_185_2016_08_08.png)  (https://i.imgur.com/LwUEKx0.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/GZNGkgc.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/RbAFROW.png)

General idea and thought process:

Initially I really loved the look of Bunnylake's 365 mini with OG Dyesubs and GMK Cyan accents, pictures here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68088.0), and wanted to adopt that style to my favourite colourway.

Since there are a lot of OG Cherry WoB sets out there I wanted to make this set unique and offer layout, and potentially legend, options that aren't available in OG sets. This is why I opted for HHKB and 65%/75% layouts to be included over some others.

Since writing this I've had a change or heart and rather than having a cheapish set that accommodated a few unique layouts I've decided to have this set support as many layouts as possible and take advantage of new moulds.

Supported layouts:

- ANSI and ISO Standards (60%, TKL, Full-sized)
- Winkeyless
- Full R5 alt bottom row
- HHKB
- 65%/75%
- 1800
- 6u Spacebar
- Diamond windows replacement keys
- Bumped and Scooped homing keys

Pricing and availability:

White on Black: Will update soon.
Magenta Mod Pack: ~$46-48

Group buy will start sometime between the 2nd and 5th of September!

Update log:

31/5: Mostly finalised renders.
11/6: Distributor found.
14/6: "Finalised" Renders.
28/6: Custom packaging.
30/7: Magenta pricing.
9/8: WoB updated.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:18:40
Sorry if there's any mistakes or confusing wording, it's 1am here and I'm fairly tired :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: joey on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:25:03
Can we request some key changes?

Maybe a poll on using the older Windows logo?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:26:37
I would like to have the wob set to complete my keycaps collection :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: romevi on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:26:56
Beautiful. Finally, another WoB IC that'll hopefully be easier to obtain, and love the pink/magenta accents.
However, the Caps Lock icon-only legend looks out of place with the rest of the mods. And I second the Win95 logo.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:27:04
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I would LOVE to see the caps lock changed to text "Caps Lock" to match the rest of the set..
nevermind can't read. Looking forward to this, I may buy it.. I already have OG WoB , and with the mod pack I may not end up needing, but we'll see
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:29:35
Can we request some key changes?

Maybe a poll on using the older Windows logo?

of course, i'll make a google form for changes or something similar soon
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: WNovizar on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:34:05
Interested, please put an google form asap.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: limitz on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:38:16
Simple and beautiful.

Consider me in whenever you start this GB. Have been looking for GMK/Cherry White on Black for a while now, and the Magenta accents are perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:45:39
Form Link: http://goo.gl/forms/Zlj6FA1jg2

I didn't really have time to put something really comprehensive together so hopefully this will do for now.

EDIT: It seems like "Caps Lock" will be in for sure
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: romevi on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:49:18
Form Link: http://goo.gl/forms/Zlj6FA1jg2

I didn't really have time to put something really comprehensive together so hopefully this will do for now.

Submitted. This is looking really good.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: Data on Wed, 04 May 2016, 11:42:20
I'm a sucker for some WoB.

Magenta was an interesting choice, but I can see it working really well on some 60% boards.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 04 May 2016, 11:49:52
EDIT: I didn't read OP carefully.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: dadoduk on Wed, 04 May 2016, 12:47:38
Wow, Nice!!
I will wait your GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 04 May 2016, 14:05:02
I'm only interested in magenta Esc and Enter but I guess they can't be split from the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:23:31
Yessssssss!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:28:03
I didn't read anything in the thread so far but wanted to add that in previous discussion I've been a part of with GMK, white on black sets were the cheapest and easiest to get done as they are a part of the normal production cycle, perhaps I should qualify and say 'were' at the time.

It might be worthwhile to have a basic white on black base set with a separate modifier pack.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:31:39
I feel like with the icon mod pack that's running in WoB and the easy availability of og WoB sets would make this kind of redundant.
I'd much rather see just a magenta mod pack with the same keys as billnye's bluegaloo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 04 May 2016, 19:38:14
I've just sent a message to GMK requesting a few changes, which are as follows:

- "Caps Lock" instead of the Down Arrow Icon on both caps lock keys.
- Windows 95 style instead of windows 8 style for windows and menu keys.
- Icon + Text instead of Icon only for 1.25u Shift
- Add an MG1 ISO Enter

As well as a rough price estimate, they were very quick to get back to me last time I requested changes so hopefully that'll be the case again :thumb:.

Going forward I think we have a few options:

- Remove magenta keys and just go with a straight White on Black set.
- Remove magenta keys and build a seperate magenta mod set.
- Leave as is with a small amount of magenta in the WoB set.
- Choose a different accent colour, I picked magenta not only because it looks awesome but also because there hasn't been a magenta mod pack AFAIK, but I'm happy to change it if that's what the majority wants.

Please let me know what you'd like to see.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: romevi on Wed, 04 May 2016, 19:41:06
Removing magenta would be a poor choice mostly because I'm really digging it. ;)
Someone else mentioned buying just the magenta. Maybe get a small mod pack as a child deal?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 04 May 2016, 19:46:13
I know there is an on-going WoB GB in China and I would expect the same GB to take orders on GH as well in a few days. Personally as someone who already has 4 sets of NIB WoB sets from various 8113 and 7000, I only care about the magenta sets and 1.5x keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 04 May 2016, 19:49:31
Removing magenta would be a poor choice mostly because I'm really digging it. ;)
Someone else mentioned buying just the magenta. Maybe get a small mod pack as a child deal?

I think that's the most likely option, even if it's a small pack I'd love to get some magenta in there.

I know there is an on-going WoB GB in China and I would expect the same GB to take orders on GH as well in a few days. Personally as someone who already has 4 sets of NIB WoB sets from various 8113 and 7000, I only care about the magenta sets and 1.5x keys.

I was unaware of that, thanks for the head up!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 04 May 2016, 20:04:29
Good luck!! i could not gauge the interest on WOB pricisely. 3 WoB of GMK is on-going or incoming, they split my wallet.
However, i support you and your idea on woving magenta into WoB
i expect i could not just say"good luck " to you but"congratulations"
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 04 May 2016, 20:17:50
R5 yes please!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 04 May 2016, 20:28:52
I know there is an on-going WoB GB in China and I would expect the same GB to take orders on GH as well in a few days. Personally as someone who already has 4 sets of NIB WoB sets from various 8113 and 7000, I only care about the magenta sets and 1.5x keys.

Is this the set you're referring to?

https://world.taobao.com/item/530650717600.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.kcpFjZ#detail

R5 yes please!

Me too, never tried R5 so I'd be interested to see what it's like.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 04 May 2016, 21:20:50
No magenta ISO return?

FOR SHAME
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: romevi on Wed, 04 May 2016, 21:30:55
No magenta ISO return?

FOR SHAME

I've just sent a message to GMK requesting a few changes, which are as follows:

- "Caps Lock" instead of the Down Arrow Icon on both caps lock keys.
- Windows 95 style instead of windows 8 style for windows and menu keys.
- Icon + Text instead of Icon only for 1.25u Shift
- Add an MG1 ISO Enter

As well as a rough price estimate, they were very quick to get back to me last time I requested changes so hopefully that'll be the case again :thumb:.

Going forward I think we have a few options:

- Remove magenta keys and just go with a straight White on Black set.
- Remove magenta keys and build a seperate magenta mod set.
- Leave as is with a small amount of magenta in the WoB set.
- Choose a different accent colour, I picked magenta not only because it looks awesome but also because there hasn't been a magenta mod pack AFAIK, but I'm happy to change it if that's what the majority wants.

Please let me know what you'd like to see.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 05 May 2016, 05:16:38
never tried R5 so I'd be interested to see what it's like.
Feels like wow.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: sambarugh on Thu, 05 May 2016, 14:34:32
I'd be interested in a separate mod set for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 05 May 2016, 14:57:45
Interested and submitted comments.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 May 2016, 15:03:20
Everyone deserves a second chance: You may consider some of the legend accents on Miami Nights, it may attract some of the defrauded people as a second chance to get something they originally wanted.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: Bigpock on Thu, 05 May 2016, 15:09:50
This looks really neat. Id go for just the Magenta Accents
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 05 May 2016, 15:34:24
definitely in on this. i will pretty much buy anything from GMK... also submitted a couple suggestions for the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 05 May 2016, 19:20:33
Everyone deserves a second chance: You may consider some of the legend accents on Miami Nights, it may attract some of the defrauded people as a second chance to get something they originally wanted.

Do you mean the Spanish side printing or magenta/cyan legends on black caps? I don't mind the idea of pink on black caps, I was considering a pink on black esc as the extra key.

Also thank you to everyone for the feedback! I'm hoping that GMK will get back to me today with the updated render, though it's probably wishful thinking, so we can move forward and forget about the down arrow :p.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 May 2016, 19:26:17
Everyone deserves a second chance: You may consider some of the legend accents on Miami Nights, it may attract some of the defrauded people as a second chance to get something they originally wanted.

Do you mean the Spanish side printing or magenta/cyan legends on black caps? I don't mind the idea of pink on black caps, I was considering a pink on black esc as the extra key.

Also thank you to everyone for the feedback! I'm hoping that GMK will get back to me today with the updated render, though it's probably wishful thinking, so we can move forward and forget about the down arrow :p.

Color legends on black key caps, for example, on modifiers, that could make the set attractive but still kept the traditional WoB alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 05 May 2016, 20:04:38
Everyone deserves a second chance: You may consider some of the legend accents on Miami Nights, it may attract some of the defrauded people as a second chance to get something they originally wanted.

Do you mean the Spanish side printing or magenta/cyan legends on black caps? I don't mind the idea of pink on black caps, I was considering a pink on black esc as the extra key.

Also thank you to everyone for the feedback! I'm hoping that GMK will get back to me today with the updated render, though it's probably wishful thinking, so we can move forward and forget about the down arrow :p.

Color legends on black key caps, for example, on modifiers, that could make the set attractive but still kept the traditional WoB alphas.

It's an interesting idea but it doesn't fit with what I wanted this set to be about, which was offering unique layout options in WoB, and the magenta caps was an idea to spruce it up a bit.

Also based on the feedback I've received so far I think a seperate magenta mod pack, something small, will be offered as well as WoB instead of part of it. Something to this effect could be looked into here.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 May 2016, 20:37:31
Everyone deserves a second chance: You may consider some of the legend accents on Miami Nights, it may attract some of the defrauded people as a second chance to get something they originally wanted.

Do you mean the Spanish side printing or magenta/cyan legends on black caps? I don't mind the idea of pink on black caps, I was considering a pink on black esc as the extra key.

Also thank you to everyone for the feedback! I'm hoping that GMK will get back to me today with the updated render, though it's probably wishful thinking, so we can move forward and forget about the down arrow :p.

Color legends on black key caps, for example, on modifiers, that could make the set attractive but still kept the traditional WoB alphas.

It's an interesting idea but it doesn't fit with what I wanted this set to be about, which was offering unique layout options in WoB, and the magenta caps was an idea to spruce it up a bit.

Also based on the feedback I've received so far I think a seperate magenta mod pack, something small, will be offered as well as WoB instead of part of it. Something to this effect could be looked into here.

Let's see what you come with then, I hope it gets enough attention and, eventually, many orders, good luck.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 05 May 2016, 21:13:08
Everyone deserves a second chance: You may consider some of the legend accents on Miami Nights, it may attract some of the defrauded people as a second chance to get something they originally wanted.

Do you mean the Spanish side printing or magenta/cyan legends on black caps? I don't mind the idea of pink on black caps, I was considering a pink on black esc as the extra key.

Also thank you to everyone for the feedback! I'm hoping that GMK will get back to me today with the updated render, though it's probably wishful thinking, so we can move forward and forget about the down arrow :p.

Color legends on black key caps, for example, on modifiers, that could make the set attractive but still kept the traditional WoB alphas.

It's an interesting idea but it doesn't fit with what I wanted this set to be about, which was offering unique layout options in WoB, and the magenta caps was an idea to spruce it up a bit.

Also based on the feedback I've received so far I think a seperate magenta mod pack, something small, will be offered as well as WoB instead of part of it. Something to this effect could be looked into here.

Let's see what you come with then, I hope it gets enough attention and, eventually, many orders, good luck.

Thanks mate! it'll probably be a bit before I can get renders for new ideas so i might post some keyboard-layout-editor mock ups for each set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 05 May 2016, 23:12:04
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No magenta ISO return?

FOR SHAME

I've just sent a message to GMK requesting a few changes, which are as follows:

- "Caps Lock" instead of the Down Arrow Icon on both caps lock keys.
- Windows 95 style instead of windows 8 style for windows and menu keys.
- Icon + Text instead of Icon only for 1.25u Shift
- Add an MG1 ISO Enter

As well as a rough price estimate, they were very quick to get back to me last time I requested changes so hopefully that'll be the case again :thumb:.

Going forward I think we have a few options:

- Remove magenta keys and just go with a straight White on Black set.
- Remove magenta keys and build a seperate magenta mod set.
- Leave as is with a small amount of magenta in the WoB set.
- Choose a different accent colour, I picked magenta not only because it looks awesome but also because there hasn't been a magenta mod pack AFAIK, but I'm happy to change it if that's what the majority wants.

Please let me know what you'd like to see.

I did not even check the colour codes.

But thanks :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 05 May 2016, 23:50:50
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No magenta ISO return?

FOR SHAME

I've just sent a message to GMK requesting a few changes, which are as follows:

- "Caps Lock" instead of the Down Arrow Icon on both caps lock keys.
- Windows 95 style instead of windows 8 style for windows and menu keys.
- Icon + Text instead of Icon only for 1.25u Shift
- Add an MG1 ISO Enter

As well as a rough price estimate, they were very quick to get back to me last time I requested changes so hopefully that'll be the case again :thumb:.

Going forward I think we have a few options:

- Remove magenta keys and just go with a straight White on Black set.
- Remove magenta keys and build a seperate magenta mod set.
- Leave as is with a small amount of magenta in the WoB set.
- Choose a different accent colour, I picked magenta not only because it looks awesome but also because there hasn't been a magenta mod pack AFAIK, but I'm happy to change it if that's what the majority wants.

Please let me know what you'd like to see.

I did not even check the colour codes.

But thanks :)

Don't want to leave ISO user out :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 05 May 2016, 23:59:23
Would love to see A-profile (row 5) since it can only be found on the IMMENSELY rare G81-3000HB_ keyboards. I don't know how popular this is though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 06 May 2016, 00:40:06
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No magenta ISO return?

FOR SHAME

I've just sent a message to GMK requesting a few changes, which are as follows:

- "Caps Lock" instead of the Down Arrow Icon on both caps lock keys.
- Windows 95 style instead of windows 8 style for windows and menu keys.
- Icon + Text instead of Icon only for 1.25u Shift
- Add an MG1 ISO Enter

As well as a rough price estimate, they were very quick to get back to me last time I requested changes so hopefully that'll be the case again :thumb:.

Going forward I think we have a few options:

- Remove magenta keys and just go with a straight White on Black set.
- Remove magenta keys and build a seperate magenta mod set.
- Leave as is with a small amount of magenta in the WoB set.
- Choose a different accent colour, I picked magenta not only because it looks awesome but also because there hasn't been a magenta mod pack AFAIK, but I'm happy to change it if that's what the majority wants.

Please let me know what you'd like to see.

I did not even check the colour codes.

But thanks :)

Don't want to leave ISO user out :thumb:

"ISO user" - singular :)) :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 06 May 2016, 00:47:51
Would love to see A-profile (row 5) since it can only be found on the IMMENSELY rare G81-3000HB_ keyboards. I don't know how popular this is though.

I actually have some questions regarding R5s price, compatibility and layout choices, if you wouldn't mind helping me with them. I'll pm you in a bit.

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No magenta ISO return?

FOR SHAME

I've just sent a message to GMK requesting a few changes, which are as follows:

- "Caps Lock" instead of the Down Arrow Icon on both caps lock keys.
- Windows 95 style instead of windows 8 style for windows and menu keys.
- Icon + Text instead of Icon only for 1.25u Shift
- Add an MG1 ISO Enter

As well as a rough price estimate, they were very quick to get back to me last time I requested changes so hopefully that'll be the case again :thumb:.

Going forward I think we have a few options:

- Remove magenta keys and just go with a straight White on Black set.
- Remove magenta keys and build a seperate magenta mod set.
- Leave as is with a small amount of magenta in the WoB set.
- Choose a different accent colour, I picked magenta not only because it looks awesome but also because there hasn't been a magenta mod pack AFAIK, but I'm happy to change it if that's what the majority wants.

Please let me know what you'd like to see.

I did not even check the colour codes.

But thanks :)

Don't want to leave ISO user out :thumb:

"ISO user" - singular :)) :p

Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: WNovizar on Fri, 06 May 2016, 00:56:12
Whatever you do with R5. Do it like classic retro keyset, and don't do it like TA drop.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 06 May 2016, 01:13:01
Whatever you do with R5. Do it like classic retro keyset, and don't do it like TA drop.

Win95 instead of blanks right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: WNovizar on Fri, 06 May 2016, 01:16:10
Nah. That's the least of problem. The real problem is that I don't think GMK has 1.25u r5 mould, which means you must provide 2 sets bottom rows, 1 with standard r4 bottom rows, and one with WKL r5 bottom rows

Sent from my E5563 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 06 May 2016, 01:24:01
Nah. That's the least of problem. The real problem is that I don't think GMK has 1.25u r5 mould, which means you must provide 2 sets bottom rows, 1 with standard r4 bottom rows, and one with WKL r5 bottom rows

Sent from my E5563 using Tapatalk

Oh right, I'm currently trying to figure out the best course of action here, but my thinking is that at very minimum there will be TKL keys in both R4 and R5.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: WNovizar on Fri, 06 May 2016, 01:38:54
I was hoping that you would also provide r5 2u 0, 1u del, and enter keys tho.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 06 May 2016, 01:41:08
I think just pass the r5 bottom row because I just found out that gmk only made a r4 spacebar so it would be akward to use r5
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 06 May 2016, 01:41:43
I was hoping that you would also provide r5 2u 0, 1u del, and enter keys tho.

It's definitely an option, it just depends on price. As i mention, if we include R5, then the minimum that will be included would be TKL in both 4 and 5.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 06 May 2016, 01:43:13
I think just pass the r5 bottom row because I just found out that gmk only made a r4 spacebar so it would be akward to use r5

I'm fairly sure that GMK's R4 spacebar is the same as OG R5 spacebars, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 06 May 2016, 01:59:12
I think just pass the r5 bottom row because I just found out that gmk only made a r4 spacebar so it would be akward to use r5

I'm fairly sure that GMK's R4 spacebar is the same as OG R5 spacebars, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

naaaw its not the same man :(
this is after I see the triumph adler keycaps which use r5 too
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 06 May 2016, 02:45:52
I'm fairly sure that GMK's R4 spacebar is the same as OG R5 spacebars, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm positive about this but anyway I'll do a comparison when I'm back home. I'll let you know.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 06 May 2016, 03:36:56
I think just pass the r5 bottom row because I just found out that gmk only made a r4 spacebar so it would be akward to use r5
Original Cherry uses the same spacebar for R4 and R5 bottom rows. In other words a R5 spacebar doesn't exist.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 06 May 2016, 06:25:42
Honestly not interested in this set UNLESS the magenta keys are included! If you're going to do a separate magenta pack, ya may as well include more keys (maybe a full magenta mod set similar to EB?)

Anyway, will be following  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 06 May 2016, 09:37:51
Honestly not interested in this set UNLESS the magenta keys are included! If you're going to do a separate magenta pack, ya may as well include more keys (maybe a full magenta mod set similar to EB?)

Anyway, will be following  :thumb:

The magenta keys will be a separate mod pack, i'll work out what'll be included and get back to everyone on that, but it will definitely include more keys.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: joey on Fri, 06 May 2016, 09:47:53
Honestly not interested in this set UNLESS the magenta keys are included! If you're going to do a separate magenta pack, ya may as well include more keys (maybe a full magenta mod set similar to EB?)

Anyway, will be following  :thumb:

The magenta keys will be a separate mod pack, i'll work out what'll be included and get back to everyone on that, but it will definitely include more keys.
That could increase the price of things quite dramatically. For example the RGBYK mod pack was ~$45. Unless the separate pack will be like 5-10 keys (not 30 like RGBYK)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 06 May 2016, 09:54:50
Honestly not interested in this set UNLESS the magenta keys are included! If you're going to do a separate magenta pack, ya may as well include more keys (maybe a full magenta mod set similar to EB?)

Anyway, will be following  :thumb:

The magenta keys will be a separate mod pack, i'll work out what'll be included and get back to everyone on that, but it will definitely include more keys.
That could increase the price of things quite dramatically. For example the RGBYK mod pack was ~$45. Unless the separate pack will be like 5-10 keys (not 30 like RGBYK)

It will increase the price a bit, but we can work on what's included over time and hopefully strike a good balance of including as much as possible while keeping the price reasonable.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: joey on Fri, 06 May 2016, 09:59:18
It will increase the price a bit, but we can work on what's included over time and hopefully strike a good balance of including as much as possible while keeping the price reasonable.
Maybe we can have another poll :P I'm personally not interested in a full mod set, but just the accents shown here. I wonder if you could keep the accents and have a mod pack too? It means some people end up with duplicate keys, but won't increase the price too much for those just wanting the base set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: blighty on Fri, 06 May 2016, 10:03:07
I think just pass the r5 bottom row because I just found out that gmk only made a r4 spacebar so it would be akward to use r5

SP's DCS spacebar is almost the same profile/shape as R5 Cherry/GMK. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 May 2016, 10:31:32
I have some old OG Cherry sets with R5 modifiers and their space bars are exactly the same profile than those bars on GMK sets with R4 only modifiers. Does someone has some pictures of those R5 space bars? It seems more like an urban legend to me, unless someone has actual examples.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 06 May 2016, 11:25:36
Established that R5 spacebars don't exist, one could use a OEM spacebar for a higher profile.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 06 May 2016, 11:37:29
personally, i dont think this set should include R5 keys. i dont think it will draw in any more people by incorporating them, and it will end up adding too many keys to the set.

i am also hesitant to see the color accents get separated into a separate pack, which will have its own MOQ. my preference would be to see one big set that has been well thought-out. magenta is a great choice - no need to change that
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: sambarugh on Fri, 06 May 2016, 14:29:42
personally, i dont think this set should include R5 keys. i dont think it will draw in any more people by incorporating them, and it will end up adding too many keys to the set.

i am also hesitant to see the color accents get separated into a separate pack, which will have its own MOQ. my preference would be to see one big set that has been well thought-out. magenta is a great choice - no need to change that

But there are a significant amount of people that enjoy GMK modifiers and don't need a full WoB set. I'm positive an MOQ for both a base set and modifier set would be met without issue.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 06 May 2016, 20:14:58
personally, i dont think this set should include R5 keys. i dont think it will draw in any more people by incorporating them, and it will end up adding too many keys to the set.

i am also hesitant to see the color accents get separated into a separate pack, which will have its own MOQ. my preference would be to see one big set that has been well thought-out. magenta is a great choice - no need to change that

personally, i dont think this set should include R5 keys. i dont think it will draw in any more people by incorporating them, and it will end up adding too many keys to the set.

i am also hesitant to see the color accents get separated into a separate pack, which will have its own MOQ. my preference would be to see one big set that has been well thought-out. magenta is a great choice - no need to change that

But there are a significant amount of people that enjoy GMK modifiers and don't need a full WoB set. I'm positive an MOQ for both a base set and modifier set would be met without issue.

R5 will heavily depend on price, I'd like to include it if possible but if it costs an arm and a leg it will be the first thing to go.

We'll work out the best solution to the magenta keys :thumb:, for now I'm going to look into a separate mod pack and we'll work from there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: joey on Sat, 07 May 2016, 04:49:40
Has someone got a compilation of all the capslock options?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Sat, 07 May 2016, 18:08:31
Has someone got a compilation of all the capslock options?

AFAIK there's only "Caps Lock", handbag and down arrow. Though I could be missing some
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: romevi on Sat, 07 May 2016, 18:11:31
Handbag is best, but would clash with the text mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: joey on Sat, 07 May 2016, 18:12:33
I kinda want some icon and text there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Sat, 07 May 2016, 18:21:20
Handbag is best, but would clash with the text mods.

Down arrow 4 lyf  :p

I kinda want some icon and text there.

I don't know if it would fit, definitely not on stepped caps
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: joey on Sat, 07 May 2016, 18:38:16
Handbag is best, but would clash with the text mods.

Down arrow 4 lyf  :p

I kinda want some icon and text there.

I don't know if it would fit, definitely not on stepped caps
Caps Lock on the main part and hand bag on the stepped bit :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents
Post by: effectiveduck on Sat, 07 May 2016, 18:47:53
I kinda want some icon and text there.

I don't know if it would fit, definitely not on stepped caps
Caps Lock on the main part and hand bag on the stepped bit :D

Lol that's probably doable if u pad printed the icon
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 09 May 2016, 06:32:46
9/5 UPDATE

Hey all,

There's a GMK WoB GB going on right now, here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80267.0) run by zennasyndroxx, so if you like the layout and price go ahead and pick it up. What does this mean for this IC? This doesn't really change much from my perspective, I wasn't planning on running this for a while regardless so I think we'll just keep refining the set until we're happy with it and run it when it's appropriate. The only change that may happen as a result of this is that, if we decided to make the magenta keys into a seperate mod pack which is likely at this point, then I might run that set before running WoB.

Updated render:
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/09/R_157_2016-05-09.png)

Unfortunately the windows and menu key weren't changed to the correct legends so i'll ask GMK to change that for the next render. As well as have them change both the ISO alpha keys to |\, also considering adding a 1.25 Fn key.

Along with the render I also received a price estimate for it and based on that and some speculation on my part, i think R5 is going to be too expensive and thus isn't going to be included in this set, sorry to all the folks that were interested in it.

Please note: I'm not going to give any price estimates until the set is finalised and extra costs are accounted for.

Last but not least, here's my initial idea for the magenta mod pack (just a keyboard-layout-editor render):
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/09/keyboard-layoutv2.png)


Any thoughts? Thanks everyone for their interest and feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 09 May 2016, 06:34:45
For the Magenta Pack, I think you should add F4-F8 and the 9 keys above the Arrows!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: joey on Mon, 09 May 2016, 06:51:12
Looking good! <3 that r2 1.5u backspace.

I just want to re-iterate my point about hopefully keeping some of the magenta caps in the base set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 09 May 2016, 07:21:49
For the Magenta Pack, I think you should add F4-F8 and the 9 keys above the Arrows!

I'd also like to include full TKL support but it'll depend on pricing, I'll get a price est from GMK and hopefully it'll be fairly cheap. :thumb:

Looking good! <3 that r2 1.5u backspace.

I just want to re-iterate my point about hopefully keeping some of the magenta caps in the base set.

The best <3

I'll keep it in mind but can't promise anything.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 09 May 2016, 12:01:58
that numpad needs some magenta love
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: romevi on Mon, 09 May 2016, 12:03:18
that numpad needs some magenta love

Agreed. I put in my suggestions that there should be a magenta Enter.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: xiaodian317 on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:32:31
In  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: cmd on Tue, 10 May 2016, 12:00:03
In  ;)

Guys, call it a day. We got this guy - will meet any MOQ needed. The cherry chinese counterparts have our back!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 10 May 2016, 16:16:58
lol he's only in to screw up the other GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: romevi on Tue, 10 May 2016, 16:33:30
lol he's only in to screw up the other GB.

Why? I thought zenna was on good terms with all keyboard forums.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: xiaodian317 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 10:40:39
lol he's only in to screw up the other GB.

You said me?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 31 May 2016, 02:11:06
Updated renders and pricing info should be here on wednesday ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: Pwner on Tue, 31 May 2016, 02:26:08
Looking forward to this.  Not that big of a fan of the magenta but will happily support if I can get a WoB set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black w/ Magenta accents [9/5: Updated Render]
Post by: Quackles on Tue, 31 May 2016, 03:03:30
Considering the other white on black set won't be doing full sets anymore I hope this kicks off!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:00:06
Updated renders:

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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/31/R_185_2016-05-31.png)    (http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/31/R_186_2016-05-31.png)

I'm really happy with how this set is looking, probably going to have the 1u winkeys centered but that's the only change I can think of for now.

Pricing is also very promising, so this shouldn't destroy your wallets too badly. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: romevi on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:01:16
Updated renders:

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/31/R_185_2016-05-31.png)
   
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/31/R_186_2016-05-31.png)


I'm really happy with how this set is looking, probably going to have the 1u winkeys centered but that's the only change I can think of for now.

Pricing is also very promising, so this shouldn't destroy your wallets too badly. :thumb:

Stunning. Absolutely in for a set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: joey on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:04:31
Is the magenta set meant to have the
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disgusting
Win10 logo?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:09:08
Looking forward to this.  Not that big of a fan of the magenta but will happily support if I can get a WoB set.

Considering the other white on black set won't be doing full sets anymore I hope this kicks off!

Updated renders:

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/31/R_185_2016-05-31.png)
   
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/05/31/R_186_2016-05-31.png)


I'm really happy with how this set is looking, probably going to have the 1u winkeys centered but that's the only change I can think of for now.

Pricing is also very promising, so this shouldn't destroy your wallets too badly. :thumb:

Stunning. Absolutely in for a set.

Thanks for the support guys!

Is the magenta set meant to have the
More
disgusting
Win10 logo?

Yea it's intentional, so that people who dislike the win98 key have an alt option.

And sorry for splitting the sets, I know you we're hoping for them to be combined.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: joey on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:12:34
Can we put a poll up for the magenta Window legends?

No worries about the split, I'll be getting both I guess.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:16:21
will buy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: joey on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:18:44
will buy
nick sees GMK in title, hits 'maximum buy' key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: nickysan92 on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:21:00
Oh man, so hype for this to proceed!

Anyway, I guess I'm in the minority for liking the Windows 10 legend? Haha.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: joey on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:22:24
Oh man, so hype for this to proceed!

Anyway, I guess I'm in the minority for liking the Windows 10 legend? Haha.
Would you still buy the set with win95 legends for all Windows logos?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: nickysan92 on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:23:44
Oh man, so hype for this to proceed!

Anyway, I guess I'm in the minority for liking the Windows 10 legend? Haha.
Would you still buy the set with win95 legends for all Windows logos?

Yeap, I would!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: joey on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:28:35
Oh man, so hype for this to proceed!

Anyway, I guess I'm in the minority for liking the Windows 10 legend? Haha.
Would you still buy the set with win95 legends for all Windows logos?

Yeap, I would!
Now you're on the right side :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 31 May 2016, 12:12:29
I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 31 May 2016, 13:18:42
i'm in :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: soilheart on Tue, 31 May 2016, 15:33:30
I'm very interested in the magenta pack. I would love if included a 1.25 R4s (or two).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: KetchyKech on Tue, 31 May 2016, 15:40:20
GMK WoB would be a stellar addition to anyones collection. This would be a godsend for a work keyboard ~ can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 31 May 2016, 16:05:43
yeah, the win98 keys look weird off-center. A (couple) windowed/LED keys would absolutely make this set. dunno if i have ever seen windowed magenta keys before...

Also, need 1u zero key minimum for 1800 support. thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 31 May 2016, 16:57:59
I'm very interested in the magenta pack. I would love if included a 1.25 R4s (or two).

I'm assuming you mean blanks?

yeah, the win98 keys look weird off-center. A (couple) windowed/LED keys would absolutely make this set. dunno if i have ever seen windowed magenta keys before...

Also, need 1u zero key minimum for 1800 support. thanks!

Yea I agree, I'm gonna ask if the legends can be centered before we go ahead :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: tkpresent on Tue, 31 May 2016, 17:02:53
Of course, I'm in! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: joey on Tue, 31 May 2016, 17:06:23
I'm very interested in the magenta pack. I would love if included a 1.25 R4s (or two).
It does? Or did you mean 1.25 blanks?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 31 May 2016, 20:17:38
great! magenta pack has added more practical keys but keeping concise as a whole. it made a huge strides.
magenta pack is pretty wonderful. will be in it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: soilheart on Wed, 01 June 2016, 00:41:02
I'm very interested in the magenta pack. I would love if included a 1.25 R4s (or two).
It does? Or did you mean 1.25 blanks?

Yeah, I accidentally a word. Blank 1.25 R4s...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 01 June 2016, 04:14:59
I'll surely buy a Magenta pack and I'm happy with the keys included, but Alt Gr keys would be awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: kasakka on Wed, 01 June 2016, 05:40:27
Definitely down for a magenta modifiers pack. Thanks for also including some unusual size keys like the smaller backspace and the shift keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: zutroy on Wed, 01 June 2016, 16:07:25
I'd be interested in the WoB GMK set itself and maybe the magenta modifiers (a big maybe for me...they're just a tad loud for my taste).

Like soilheart, I would also appreciate some 1.25u blanks to take the place of Windows keys on the bottom row. Looking forward to seeing this go to GB!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: Prankk on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:23:25
This needs to happen. That Magenta Mod Pack though!!! :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 03 June 2016, 08:08:49
Would people prefer "CODE" keys or blanks for windows replacement keys?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: Karura on Fri, 03 June 2016, 08:17:03
Could we please add:

Windowed LED Capslock (Stepped), Capslock (Full-touch), NumLock, ScrollLock keys?

These are very desirable and rare keys, and would be phenomenal if we could have it in the base set.

No blanks, CODE is great. Due to pricing, I always rather have a legend than a boring "blank".
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 04 June 2016, 15:04:12
Could we please add:

Windowed LED Capslock (Stepped), Capslock (Full-touch), NumLock, ScrollLock keys?

These are very desirable and rare keys, and would be phenomenal if we could have it in the base set.

No blanks, CODE is great. Due to pricing, I always rather have a legend than a boring "blank".

i will second the windowed keys, definitely want to see those in magenta at least. also dont like blanks, but my preference is Win98
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: romevi on Mon, 06 June 2016, 11:06:29
Wait, were the new renders posted? Images seem to be broken.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 06 June 2016, 22:30:22
Wait, were the new renders posted? Images seem to be broken.

Yea the site that was hosting them is down, i'll re-upload them when I get a chance
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 06 June 2016, 22:57:45
Here they are, re-uploaded:

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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iPpSYIaVrJOcX7NUvFlz1Twz9saBQcPzjs8O8i_-ev3fRsldAxM3iWwn7WGSizDve4osa1wEBjfPLKQnAGaHVhYgE6_UL-QInTTnR_dNpF6mvgT5U88lX6rKg1GzmRCgCPoqnokaJ687qyZKktW69gxbv10V7UUj6drqW8Vk0rI-XhoHKxiQxt5wV3FZJtDxcR1_l_8V1aXHJ2Z5mrT63oeJbNzapnaDKFItNA3lzVmh4FivDg6GzGpihs30mT3swrQtJmQO2HrNSjwIcP1qEsS9Im2v205QpHyLEZx78CB5UkZHdGFJtckbL6Q1CxB_X-YNWFWUZe6DxdTZkfiDALkr2Aa9cD25Z2SHPKxBmFwEIMpV-T7Z7duFqoTqyoJTH5nS_LjKD9rkvA6LV5sGHLWYY8C4ndLTUQaC_mn-H_Y27lqvS9BZZmhdS6j4G-HnodPcg98ZiJvcC__sSaOc36NFf3izuyK5wOV4IZQCmbR3-nbtZKfpBFcKAabiNnGzBniUiQIQdr8xGcdWO2xOxyG80nqI0QDskybzpN8AVjaF3AU-MHI_CVdiH2JvvjG6EXUEPo8tHVYLAZA9SHQBIDto6aiqMw=w1716-h965-no)    (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3PCpneUr78lF2LJFoY-8_LzDXIiSYUxbwHIo88_5_CG9AUOpMOTrL6KVCtuImNQynABb14xQJo-O3k52yv2Dd_9ClApmzrAbYP_VYLQVV72Wwi9u9YxQY4b_FNKlPm19FiRUUAv4u8ddBJosLimWC-ZUnbaiceUCbRE1Pjh5qzflomMWdNVLpSbULleP9gZGgen728sEmfO63DN9U0RHkuSR-pTYZdqvC9X658cLezESrm80gkaOc9QmlejqSEdKmI1iDkctF5WKKywdIwKJjFUk4ojGCeZps6vY6vLcmS_u7xCTRI7bWnbzNWXlSDHH7KEYVtFquuMICpeweIFRu6IivWXqTe1pZVl9yo6ug25E5EBFHhF8z6BmcAX8grTX37P0UkEvhgPYnpK2SGKHEwk6AaT2ArZ_5lfKjYYPEQQ-OUgEkPlQlSFNYFo7TndatPY5tNM8r3GKXXCrnAuRVH2ZjO9wNYZ834MGiQFs_UGBARvmkjvcC3K-HQ9GStzOcNGjbt8svq1_MHHFUCRPABlnt06gmZ2KYYwWYFqefNUtP6MU2IL1Lkowu5I2jTirOYta0O7f3LeQtHnNirjhYOSwb-MkmQ=w1716-h965-no)

The image links with google photos are obscenely long and i think they need cropping, but it'll do for now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: alveeno on Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:22:25
Can we get hhkb support for the mod pack?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [31/5: Updated renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:44:36
Can we get hhkb support for the mod pack?

It is supported, unless I'm missing a key?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [11/6: Big update!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Sat, 11 June 2016, 03:38:06
Big update everyone!

I’m very excited to announce that we have a distributor lined up to run this group buy!

I’ll release the full details when everything is finalised, so for now I’d like to finish up this IC and finalise the designs of these 2 sets. My current thought process is to make the following changes:

WoB:
- Center Win98 and Menu key legends
- Add 6u spacebar (if possible)
- Add 1u Menu (win98 style, but only if 6u is possible)
- Remove 2x 1u "CODE" keys
- Add 2x 1u Blanks
- Add 2x 1.25u Blanks

    We can also add one of the following options:
    - Windowed keys (4 keys)
    - 1800 (6 keys)

Magenta Mod Pack:
- Add 2x 1.25u Blanks

If you have an suggestions, thoughts, comments, concerns or whatever, please voice them now!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [11/6: Big update!]
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 11 June 2016, 14:33:05
    We can also add one of the following options:
    - Windowed keys (4 keys)
    - 1800 (6 keys)

can't have your cake an eat it too, i suppose. i am always a proponent for 1800, but i would rather see windowed keys. any possibility of seeing windowed keys in magenta?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [11/6: Big update!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Sat, 11 June 2016, 21:19:28
    We can also add one of the following options:
    - Windowed keys (4 keys)
    - 1800 (6 keys)

can't have your cake an eat it too, i suppose. i am always a proponent for 1800, but i would rather see windowed keys. any possibility of seeing windowed keys in magenta?

I'm leaning towards windowed keys as well, since OG 1800 isn't too hard to find. And i'll probably add windowed to the magenta pack if I add them to the main set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [11/6: Big update!]
Post by: Sempre on Tue, 14 June 2016, 15:08:47

- Remove 2x 1u "CODE" keys

   
If you have an suggestions, thoughts, comments, concerns or whatever, please voice them now!

I would love the 2 Code keys to stay
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 15 June 2016, 01:50:57
(http://i.imgur.com/sB0JEMb.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/YMpuk77.png)

And we have the final renders, the price will be a little bit higher than what I initially wanted it to be but i think the extra additions will be worth it, thanks to everyone who gave feedback and suggestions! I hope you all like the final design!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: joey on Wed, 15 June 2016, 02:45:07
Looks great effectiveduck!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 15 June 2016, 02:54:33
no windowed magenta keys? plz gib
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 15 June 2016, 03:02:22
Looks great effectiveduck!

Cheers joey! ;D

no windowed magenta keys? plz gib

 Sorry mate, maybe if we hit 250  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: soilheart on Wed, 15 June 2016, 03:09:13
Can't see the renders,  just a small round error sign.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 15 June 2016, 03:13:15
Can't see the renders,  just a small round error sign.

Really? They're working for me. I'll link to the google photo albums maybe that'll help.

WoB: http://i.imgur.com/sB0JEMb.png
Magenta Mod Pack: http://i.imgur.com/YMpuk77.png
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: luckyryan333 on Wed, 15 June 2016, 04:13:25
Can't see the renders,  just a small round error sign.

Really? They're working for me. I'll link to the google photo albums maybe that'll help.

WoB: https://goo.gl/photos/NwWdQpnsAw1wiLtx7
Magenta Mod Pack: https://goo.gl/photos/NdFDzxUnsyJYG4nq8

hopefully it helps you.

Link: WoB (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JmN4Ms9mcvhfo6suZSNLP-ZC_WKnovNKYmxV_ZbvG-S4zo8Tj5M3prTJZoYI0rsKQyw3SpWrFMSd=w1316-h740-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JmN4Ms9mcvhfo6suZSNLP-ZC_WKnovNKYmxV_ZbvG-S4zo8Tj5M3prTJZoYI0rsKQyw3SpWrFMSd=w1316-h740-no)

Link: Magenta Mod Pack (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_m7xPskRGs5enj_zyUWsp2hz-xuaLzMs6CPb2mXWBJBBHWiuOtwX0-al1mP7C5pRGF4bys3utLQ8=w1316-h740-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_m7xPskRGs5enj_zyUWsp2hz-xuaLzMs6CPb2mXWBJBBHWiuOtwX0-al1mP7C5pRGF4bys3utLQ8=w1316-h740-no)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: soilheart on Wed, 15 June 2016, 05:46:10
Can't see the renders,  just a small round error sign.

Really? They're working for me. I'll link to the google photo albums maybe that'll help.

WoB: https://goo.gl/photos/NwWdQpnsAw1wiLtx7
Magenta Mod Pack: https://goo.gl/photos/NdFDzxUnsyJYG4nq8

hopefully it helps you.

Link: WoB (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JmN4Ms9mcvhfo6suZSNLP-ZC_WKnovNKYmxV_ZbvG-S4zo8Tj5M3prTJZoYI0rsKQyw3SpWrFMSd=w1316-h740-no)
Show Image
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JmN4Ms9mcvhfo6suZSNLP-ZC_WKnovNKYmxV_ZbvG-S4zo8Tj5M3prTJZoYI0rsKQyw3SpWrFMSd=w1316-h740-no)


Link: Magenta Mod Pack (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_m7xPskRGs5enj_zyUWsp2hz-xuaLzMs6CPb2mXWBJBBHWiuOtwX0-al1mP7C5pRGF4bys3utLQ8=w1316-h740-no)
Show Image
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_m7xPskRGs5enj_zyUWsp2hz-xuaLzMs6CPb2mXWBJBBHWiuOtwX0-al1mP7C5pRGF4bys3utLQ8=w1316-h740-no)


Those links and pictures work better. Thank you =)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 15 June 2016, 08:52:07
I will probably pick up a mod pack. On the fence about the main set due to my personal taste, but it looks well put together  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 17 June 2016, 02:49:52
Im down just to support an Aus GB :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: WNovizar on Fri, 17 June 2016, 02:59:36
In for one WoB and Magenta packs, and since it is from Australia, shipping should be cheaper for me.. :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 22 June 2016, 04:29:13
I will probably pick up a mod pack. On the fence about the main set due to my personal taste, but it looks well put together  :thumb:

Im down just to support an Aus GB :)

In for one WoB and Magenta packs, and since it is from Australia, shipping should be cheaper for me.. :p

Thanks for the support guys! Though most of the orders won't be shipped from down under, it's just to expensive to ship anywhere but domestically. Also sorry to everyone for the render pictures not working, I'm fairly sure I've gotten them to work consistently now.

Here are the final renders for those who haven't seen:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/sB0JEMb.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/YMpuk77.png)


Please let me know if they don't work for you.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: Liar on Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:30:20
How about a magenta numpad enter?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: soilheart on Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:33:48
How about a magenta numpad enter?
Agree. Didn't realize it is was "missing"
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: Data on Thu, 23 June 2016, 13:52:34
This set sounds expensive with all the bonus keys.   :-X

But if it had windowed keys it would be pretty irresistible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 24 June 2016, 03:39:25
This set sounds expensive with all the bonus keys.   :-X

But if it had windowed keys it would be pretty irresistible.

The WoB does have windowed keys :thumb:

How about a magenta numpad enter?
Agree. Didn't realize it is was "missing"

I've been completely forgetting this :S, I think I should be able to add it :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: calavera on Fri, 24 June 2016, 03:57:45
Curious as to the minimum MOQ needed and it's price range. GMK prices having been going up rather quickly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 24 June 2016, 04:09:50
Curious as to the minimum MOQ needed and it's price range. GMK prices having been going up rather quickly.

I haven't confirmed these details with the vendor yet so I don't have anything concrete but GMK's MOQ is 150 and given the vendor will likely buy some extra sets the MOQ might be around 120 or so (just speculation on my part) and I'll post pricing info when I have it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: joey on Fri, 24 June 2016, 04:11:30
Curious as to the minimum MOQ needed and it's price range. GMK prices having been going up rather quickly.

I haven't confirmed these details with the vendor yet so I don't have anything concrete but GMK's MOQ is 150 and given the vendor will likely buy some extra sets the MOQ might be around 120 or so (just speculation on my part) and I'll post pricing info when I have it
Any indication of when this might start?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 24 June 2016, 04:21:24
Curious as to the minimum MOQ needed and it's price range. GMK prices having been going up rather quickly.

I haven't confirmed these details with the vendor yet so I don't have anything concrete but GMK's MOQ is 150 and given the vendor will likely buy some extra sets the MOQ might be around 120 or so (just speculation on my part) and I'll post pricing info when I have it
Any indication of when this might start?

Probably not for a few months to avoid clashing with other GMK sets that will be running soon, I want to give this set the best chance of reaching MOQ
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: Data on Fri, 24 June 2016, 06:30:29
More
Curious as to the minimum MOQ needed and it's price range. GMK prices having been going up rather quickly.

I haven't confirmed these details with the vendor yet so I don't have anything concrete but GMK's MOQ is 150 and given the vendor will likely buy some extra sets the MOQ might be around 120 or so (just speculation on my part) and I'll post pricing info when I have it
Any indication of when this might start?

Probably not for a few months to avoid clashing with other GMK sets that will be running soon, I want to give this set the best chance of reaching MOQ

Smart.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: joey on Sat, 25 June 2016, 14:21:51
Just wondering if you could think about how to handle replacement keys now. Bring it up with the vendor, GMK etc :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [14/6: Final Renders!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Sun, 26 June 2016, 23:39:10
Just wondering if you could think about how to handle replacement keys now. Bring it up with the vendor, GMK etc :thumb:

Quote from the vendor

"For replacements, we will take them out of extras to replace them as soon as possible, and those extras will be replaced by GMK."

So you have nothing to worry about in terms of replacements :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 28 June 2016, 04:11:29
(http://i.imgur.com/RbAFROW.png)

Hey all, I'd like to gauge interest in some custom packaging for my gmk white on black and magenta mod pack group buy.

The idea is to have a beautiful box which you can store the keys in when they're not in use, provide extra protection during shipping to avoid scratches and give this set a more premium feel.

This is just a mock-up I worked with my sister on, the magenta section will slide over the box for those who bought the mod pack as well as the main set. They keys will be housed in foam like here: http://i.imgur.com/PcXsepX.jpg (photo credit to sitch) within the box. We're thinking that this will be an optional extra for those who want it.

I'd love to hear any and all thoughts you may have, but specifically what you'd like to see in the box's design, how much you'd be willing to pay for it and if you would actually get it.

Also I guess this spills the beans on the vendor :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: joey on Tue, 28 June 2016, 04:17:38
I like it! What sort of material would the box be made from? Cardboard usually degrades quite quickly and would look rubbish pretty soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 28 June 2016, 04:24:16
I like it! What sort of material would the box be made from? Cardboard usually degrades quite quickly and would look rubbish pretty soon.

Cheers mate! Not sure which material yet but I would assume cardboard, I wouldn't worry too much about degradation though, most of the cardboard boxes I have lying around are still in really good condition and if we make these we'll make sure they're of high quality.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 28 June 2016, 05:55:19
Yeah degradation is a problem with cardboard especially for someone like me who live in a humid tropical country

However with a cardboard, it can easily damaged during shipping. Unless its a high quality one, this can be tricky but I love the idea :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 28 June 2016, 19:46:02
Yeah degradation is a problem with cardboard especially for someone like me who live in a humid tropical country

However with a cardboard, it can easily damaged during shipping. Unless its a high quality one, this can be tricky but I love the idea :)
agree with you  , i feel the same with you.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 28 June 2016, 19:48:08
i am very fond of your magenta mod pack.
in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 01 July 2016, 06:05:13
This is pretty late but is there any chance of just going R4 on the wkl?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 01 July 2016, 06:16:54
This is pretty late but is there any chance of just going R4 on the wkl?

Woah Woah R5 is better than R4

swimmingbird pls.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 01 July 2016, 06:53:18
This is pretty late but is there any chance of just going R4 on the wkl?

It's too late at this point, I do plan to include it if we hit 250+ orders though
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 01 July 2016, 06:53:54
This is pretty late but is there any chance of just going R4 on the wkl?

It's too late at this point, I do plan to include it if we hit 250+ orders though

Thanks dude :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: joey on Fri, 01 July 2016, 07:03:15
Let's hope for 250 then!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 01 July 2016, 07:29:29
Let's hope for 250 then!

Always  :)

I'm not sure if this is common place but the price difference at 250 is fairly significant, something like 10%
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: joey on Fri, 01 July 2016, 07:31:01
But the price difference is negated by adding extra keys or?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 01 July 2016, 07:34:57
But the price difference is negated by adding extra keys or?

Not 100% sure yet, I more meant that we have a lot of room for extra keys if that's the route we take, and given the hassle of refunding part of the order I'd assume that is what'll happen.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 01 July 2016, 07:43:53
I'd buy your 1.5u backspace and 1.25u shift keys, in case you do not have use for them; anyone? PMme, please.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 01 July 2016, 11:39:44
I don't know if this IC is still active, but if it is, I'm in (for both WOB kit and Magenta Mods
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: juahenza on Sat, 02 July 2016, 01:14:38
need one of everything  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: axtran on Tue, 05 July 2016, 08:02:46
I'm in if this goes live. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 06 July 2016, 01:58:40
yes please!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 09 July 2016, 21:44:25
I need this please.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: priyadi on Fri, 15 July 2016, 02:30:02
This set needs 2 of R4U1 blanks (or R5 if we go for R5 bottom row). But, other than that, I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 18 July 2016, 20:50:14
Bumped F/J's please

I've been waiting for a WoB GMK run for so long

Bumped F/J's + 1.25 "Ctrl"s would make this set perfect for me, but I guess I'm alone on the 1.25 "Ctrl" thing, so I'm not requesting it ("Control" is in my opinion too long for a 1.25 keycap)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 18 July 2016, 21:08:12
This set would need to add a 0 numberpad key r5 1u key for the 1800 layout so we can get full r5 winkeyless for the 1800 layout too 😃

And what about Altgr key for the right alt instead of just normal alt?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 18 July 2016, 21:35:51
This set would need to add a 0 numberpad key r5 1u key for the 1800 layout so we can get full r5 winkeyless for the 1800 layout too 😃

And what about Altgr key for the right alt instead of just normal alt?

Broh, from the 'final renders' there isn't even R4 1800 support. They dropped R1 Delete, End and PgDn.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 18 July 2016, 22:48:54
This set would need to add a 0 numberpad key r5 1u key for the 1800 layout so we can get full r5 winkeyless for the 1800 layout too 😃

And what about Altgr key for the right alt instead of just normal alt?

Broh, from the 'final renders' there isn't even R4 1800 support. They dropped R1 Delete, End and PgDn.
Gaaaaah

Y u no 1800 supports? 😭😭😭
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 19 July 2016, 01:03:53
Hey all, sorry I haven't been very active around here lately, pokemon go and uni have been taking all my time :p

First off a numpad enter was added to the magenta mod pack, I'll update the render when I get home.

As for adding new keys I would prefer to leave everything as is but we can absolutely discuss which keys can be added IF we hit 250 MOQ, I would estimate that we could add ~10-15 keys.

Here's what I had planned, ordered by priority:
- Full R4 1800 + R4 1.5u Control + R4 1.5u Alt
- Remaining R4 WKL keys.
- R5 1u 0 Ins
- 6u Spacebar + 1u R5 and R4 Menu keys

I will also consider 1u blanks and bumped F and J keys.

I know that 250 maybe be a difficult to reach but I believe it's possible, especially if there is a decent order from China and/or S Korea. So please let me know what you'd like to see if it happens.

I should also be able to give out more details regarding when this will go live and pricing relatively soon.

Thanks again for all the support and feedback! :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 19 July 2016, 01:50:36
Hey all, sorry I haven't been very active around here lately, pokemon go and uni have been taking all my time :p

First off a numpad enter was added to the magenta mod pack, I'll update the render when I get home.

As for adding new keys I would prefer to leave everything as is but we can absolutely discuss which keys can be added IF we hit 250 MOQ, I would estimate that we could add ~10-15 keys.

Here's what I had planned, ordered by priority:
- Full R4 1800 + R4 1.5u Control + R4 1.5u Alt
- Remaining R4 WKL keys.
- R5 1u 0 Ins
- 6u Spacebar + 1u R5 and R4 Menu keys

I will also consider 1u blanks and bumped F and J keys.

I know that 250 maybe be a difficult to reach but I believe it's possible, especially if there is a decent order from China and/or S Korea. So please let me know what you'd like to see if it happens.

I should also be able to give out more details regarding when this will go live and pricing relatively soon.

Thanks again for all the support and feedback! :)
6 U spacebar is good, but whether adding them or not depends on the MOQ=250?
i am sure a Wob GMK GB have been lauched not long before in China with being compatible with1800 ,WKL ,75% and they cost about 105 USD without other fees. i hope those who  like WOB but not join that one will join in this one .
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 19 July 2016, 03:00:59
6 U spacebar is good, but whether adding them or not depends on the MOQ=250?
i am sure a Wob GMK GB have been lauched not long before in China with being compatible with1800 ,WKL ,75% and they cost about 105 USD without other fees. i hope those who  like WOB but not join that one will join in this one .

Correct, the 6u spacebar might be added if we hit 250 MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: IneffableTao on Tue, 19 July 2016, 08:53:17
Count me in for this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: priyadi on Tue, 19 July 2016, 09:14:28
As for adding new keys I would prefer to leave everything as is but we can absolutely discuss which keys can be added IF we hit 250 MOQ, I would estimate that we could add ~10-15 keys.

Here's what I had planned, ordered by priority:
- Full R4 1800 + R4 1.5u Control + R4 1.5u Alt
- Remaining R4 WKL keys.
- R5 1u 0 Ins
- 6u Spacebar + 1u R5 and R4 Menu keys

1¼U R4 diamond mod using the new mold from GMK HADapter kit. Or maybe lose the 1¼U blanks and replace with these diamond mods.

(https://i.imgur.com/tJxER4u.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 19 July 2016, 11:12:49
I share your vendor hatred, yet only blanks are truly neutral - I wish we could buy GMK blanks in all colors, it would make things much simpler

---

Is there any rough ETA for the magenta blanks? I can't wait

Maybe run them separately since they will be a definite hit :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: Khers on Tue, 19 July 2016, 12:08:19
When is this scheduled to launch? R5 bottom row got me all excited!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 19 July 2016, 12:36:34
Great features of the set:

R5 support. A Profile rocks!
HHKB support. The backspace at row 2 with D profile backspace is more ergonomic than row 1 E profile.

Features that may take it to the next level, if added:

Replace the back arrow with the backspace icon.
Add diamond to the blank 1.25 mods.

Should we take advantage of the new GMK molds?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: SJHL on Tue, 19 July 2016, 14:45:34
Interested in the Magenta Mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: joey on Tue, 19 July 2016, 14:48:28
Replace the back arrow with the backspace icon.
No way! The bigger icon looks so out of place.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 20 July 2016, 04:59:03
So there will be a 1800 layout supports right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 21 July 2016, 00:44:07
Launch time should be sometime in September, though this is subject to change.

So there will be a 1800 layout supports right?

If we hit 250MOQ then yes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 21 July 2016, 10:39:25
Thanks for the info

They also say MOQ is 150 now, you might already now, but just saying

Edit: Sorry didn't read the entire thread
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 21 July 2016, 13:53:21
Thanks for the info

They also say MOQ is 150 now, you might already now, but just saying

Yes, but 250 is for the price break that will allow extra keys (discussed above) to be added to the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [28/6: Custom Packaging!]
Post by: cmd on Thu, 21 July 2016, 14:46:05
Thanks for the info

They also say MOQ is 150 now, you might already now, but just saying

Edit: Sorry didn't read the entire thread

Maybe @ 250 you will even get your bumped f/j :kappa:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 29 July 2016, 07:19:50
Hey everyone,

Just a few updates, the White on Black set will be priced around $118-120 and the group buy will start around mid-late September.

Here's the new magenta render (Numpad enter added):
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(https://i.imgur.com/LwUEKx0.png)


I'll have the magenta pricing soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: joey on Fri, 29 July 2016, 07:28:24
Not a bad price!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 29 July 2016, 07:32:53
That is actually a really good price and don't forget with 1800 layout supports and r5 1u 0 key 😃
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 July 2016, 08:01:28
The blank 1.25 mods may take advantage of the new diamond mold and you may add the 6u space bar.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 29 July 2016, 08:02:47
stahp targetin the blanks, just stahp
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 July 2016, 08:17:52
stahp targetin the blanks, just stahp

Diamonds are discrete, vendor neutral, function neutral, you can use them pretty much for anything, why on earth a blank is superior than a double shot key? I understand that you prefer them, that's ok, but, we can disagree, respectfully and with arguments.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 29 July 2016, 08:24:22
Yay this is actually moving forward :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 29 July 2016, 08:41:44
stahp targetin the blanks, just stahp

Diamonds are discrete, vendor neutral, function neutral, you can use them pretty much for anything, why on earth a blank is superior than a double shot key? I understand that you prefer them, that's ok, but, we can disagree, respectfully and with arguments.

First of all, I apologise if I hurt your feelings, please accept this as my apology:

[attach=1]

Other than this, there is nothing neutral about diamonds, imagine any set with diamong win-fn keys, it would become a highlight of the keyboard, I don't find it neutral at all

This is not to say I don't like them, on the contrary, I would like to have them, maybe more icon 1.25's too, maybe as a separate GB on it's own, but I would use blanks instead, and I oppose replacing blanks with diamonds
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [29/7: WoB Pricing!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 29 July 2016, 16:21:41
I already have a JTK WOB set so I might have to sit out on the WOB kit, but I'm definitely in for the Magenta Mods!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Sat, 30 July 2016, 00:00:54
Magenta pricing will be around ~$46-48

The blank 1.25 mods may take advantage of the new diamond mold and you may add the 6u space bar.

I do personally like the diamond keys a lot but I don't feel that they fit this set as well as blanks do, and adding a 6u spacebar is being considered if we hit 250MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 01 August 2016, 06:49:59
Hey everyone, I've got some proposed changes I'd like to make but I'd like any and all feedback I can get before I make a decision.

I feel like I should explain a few things first. During the process of designing this set my philosophy has changed quite a bit, initially I wanted it to be a cheap set that covered a few unique layouts, now I want this set to cover as many layouts as possible and as long as the price isn't too high that's fine. When I finalised the renders I truly was happy with them, but as time went on I noticed small problems I had with it and wanted to add more keys but I didn't want to increase the price for fear of alienating potential buyers. My solution for this was to hope that we'd hit 250 orders and be able to add keys for free, but after some discussion with Sherryton I decided that I don't want to rely on this to have the set I want so I'd like to make the following changes:

Proposed WoB changes:
- Remove Blanks
- Remove LED keys
- Remove R2 'Pg Up'
- Change R3 'Pg Dn' to 'Home'
- Add R4 2x 1u and 2x 1.25u diamond keys
- Add full 1800 support, including R5 '0 Ins'
- Add full R4 WKL support, including win98 winkeys
- Add 6u spacebar
- Add 1x 1u 'Ctrl' and 'Alt'
- Add R4 1.25u 'Fn'

Proposed Magenta changes:
- Remove Blanks
- Change Winkeys into diamond keys
- Add R4 1.25u 'Fn'

Here are keyboard-layout-editor renders of the set with the proposed changes:

More
(http://imgur.com/Dd04b5Y.jpg)


More
(http://imgur.com/1VzQuso.jpg)


The magenta sets price will remain pretty much the same, but the white on black set will be a bit more expensive, roughly ~$10-12 more. I feel like the changes are well worth the increase in cost, as they make the set more flexible in terms of layouts supported and legend options offered, but I want to hear your feedback on this before I commit the changes.

Cheers!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: joey on Mon, 01 August 2016, 06:56:48
Being forced to use the diamond if we want to use the magenta set kinda kills it for me.
I want to see the actual pics of Wodan's HADApter kits, so we can see the diamond keys, maybe I'll change my mind.

'- Remove R2 'Pg Up'
- Change R3 'Pg Dn' to 'Home'

What layouts does this change?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 01 August 2016, 07:02:07
Being forced to use the diamond if we want to use the magenta set kinda kills it for me.
I want to see the actual pics of Wodan's HADApter kits, so we can see the diamond keys, maybe I'll change my mind.

Fair enough, maybe having all 3 winkey legends accross both sets would be the right way to go.

'- Remove R2 'Pg Up'
- Change R3 'Pg Dn' to 'Home'

What layouts does this change?

It's just changing up the 65/75% keys
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 August 2016, 08:01:38
You are making changes
You are not adding bumped F/J's that a high percentage of people use
You are removing blanks, which a lot of people fanatically use

I'm probably out too
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:21:18
Taking advantage of new molds will make this epic, it would be the first time a full set will have them included and in one of the more elegant colors the classic white on black, any serious keyboard user should join it, congratulations.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:23:03
You are making changes
You are not adding bumped F/J's that a high percentage of people use
You are removing blanks, which a lot of people fanatically use

I'm probably out too

I assumed that you wouldn't like proposed changes, but I think it's better to have more layout compatibility than include bumped f/j's and I've received very little positive feedback about blanks compared to the 'want' for the diamond keys. Also please keep in mind that I am only proposing these changes, I have not committed to them yet.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ba7777 on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:28:30
Maybe getting rid of the A-profile Wkl keys would be a option to cut down the price.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: shower_king on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:33:48
Frankly speaking, what you have changed on this attracted me more than the older layout.
In old layout, I will buy magenta mod but be hesitant to buy base kit.
Now I wanna buy both and my wallet crying
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:47:27
Maybe getting rid of the A-profile Wkl keys would be a option to cut down the price.


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A Profile makes this an authentic equivalent of an OG Cherry original set, if you remove them you just have one more set of the many that have been released recently, but in a standard color, that may not attract many young people that prefer cute colors over authenticity; check the demand of the recent Carbon, or HF and compare them with the two black on beige group buys, there is nothing similar in their demands. Truth be told, this set is not for everyone, but for people with sensibility for its classic style, reducing the key counts, or cutting a couple of dollars in its price will not make this as popular as the colorful sets. After the huge Ivan's failure this set may be the one to go for, if someone really wants to get a classic, but with full support for contemporary layouts as well as for classic ones.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: priyadi on Mon, 01 August 2016, 11:28:39
Hey everyone, I've got some proposed changes I'd like to make but I'd like any and all feedback I can get before I make a decision.

I'm cool with the changes. As long as it is possible not to have product placement on my keyboard, I'm happy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 01 August 2016, 11:29:29
You are making changes
You are not adding bumped F/J's that a high percentage of people use
You are removing blanks, which a lot of people fanatically use

I'm probably out too

I assumed that you wouldn't like proposed changes, but I think it's better to have more layout compatibility than include bumped f/j's and I've received very little positive feedback about blanks compared to the 'want' for the diamond keys. Also please keep in mind that I am only proposing these changes, I have not committed to them yet.

As one of the early requesters of the blanks (in the magenta kit) I vote against diamond keys (didn't even know you were considering to change to them until your post today).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 August 2016, 12:10:59
There are types of GB-runners, some just want a set for themselves, and for possible layouts they might use in the future - some genuinely improve their set to help other majorities too, I'm not even saying minorities, some do that too - So blanks are probably removed because the GB-runner decided to use diamonds instead

I just don't get not including 2 small F/J's, and adding many more keys to extend layout compatibility, it just blows my mind
This is now a good indicator for me, if bumped F/J's are refuted early on, I mark the IC/GB as a selfish one

The same pattern appeared on Skidata+ too, Anyway, I give up on this GB, This type of IC/GB's is definitely not for me

(I also mourn for the wasted WoB/Originative/GMK-enthusiast resources, I really urged Sheraton to run a WoB set himself with many extra packs, kind of like the midnight SP or Granite set, where you buy alphas, modifiers, extras packs etc. It would be nice to have one GMK colorway that is widely available, with almost all non-regular keycaps produced with it- but now, if this GB succeeds, we won't likely see another WoB attempt)

Please excuse me, I try to be positive, but sometimes I just can't, so I'm unfollowing the thread now, and leave you at peace
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: joey on Mon, 01 August 2016, 12:20:29
I think a poll with the different options would be good. So you can gauge interest at the different options. Only KHAAÀAAAN so far has mentioned bars, a poll would show us if others want it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: xondat on Mon, 01 August 2016, 12:34:04
I just don't get not including 2 small F/J's, and adding many more keys to extend layout compatibility, it just blows my mind
This is now a good indicator for me, if bumped F/J's are refuted early on, I mark the IC/GB as a selfish one
But you're the only one that wants it :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: priyadi on Mon, 01 August 2016, 12:38:36
I'd include as many caps as possible to please everyone, get the prices updated and introduce price breaks. I have a feeling this set is going to be very popular.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 01 August 2016, 18:26:05
Taking advantage of new molds will make this epic, it would be the first time a full set will have them included and in one of the more elegant colors the classic white on black, any serious keyboard user should join it, congratulations.

Maybe getting rid of the A-profile Wkl keys would be a option to cut down the price.


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A Profile makes this an authentic equivalent of an OG Cherry original set, if you remove them you just have one more set of the many that have been released recently, but in a standard color, that may not attract many young people that prefer cute colors over authenticity; check the demand of the recent Carbon, or HF and compare them with the two black on beige group buys, there is nothing similar in their demands. Truth be told, this set is not for everyone, but for people with sensibility for its classic style, reducing the key counts, or cutting a couple of dollars in its price will not make this as popular as the colorful sets. After the huge Ivan's failure this set may be the one to go for, if someone really wants to get a classic, but with full support for contemporary layouts as well as for classic ones.

Thanks for the input ideus, this is pretty much how I feel, and considering just how many keys would be included (with the updates) I think the price will be very fair and not a deterrent for most people.

As one of the early requesters of the blanks (in the magenta kit) I vote against diamond keys (didn't even know you were considering to change to them until your post today).

I remember and I'm thinking of keeping the magenta pack as is to have the best of both worlds when it comes to winkey and it's replacements, given that the magenta pack needs to be compatible with older sets as well.

I think a poll with the different options would be good. So you can gauge interest at the different options. Only KHAAÀAAAN so far has mentioned bars, a poll would show us if others want it.

I'm open to this idea and want to be fair to everybody but I think I'll wait for a bit more feedback to see if it's necessary.
Title: C'mon
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 01 August 2016, 19:28:47
There are types of GB-runners, some just want a set for themselves, and for possible layouts they might use in the future - some genuinely improve their set to help other majorities too, I'm not even saying minorities, some do that too - So blanks are probably removed because the GB-runner decided to use diamonds instead

I just don't get not including 2 small F/J's, and adding many more keys to extend layout compatibility, it just blows my mind
This is now a good indicator for me, if bumped F/J's are refuted early on, I mark the IC/GB as a selfish one

The same pattern appeared on Skidata+ too, Anyway, I give up on this GB, This type of IC/GB's is definitely not for me

(I also mourn for the wasted WoB/Originative/GMK-enthusiast resources, I really urged Sheraton to run a WoB set himself with many extra packs, kind of like the midnight SP or Granite set, where you buy alphas, modifiers, extras packs etc. It would be nice to have one GMK colorway that is widely available, with almost all non-regular keycaps produced with it- but now, if this GB succeeds, we won't likely see another WoB attempt)

Please excuse me, I try to be positive, but sometimes I just can't, so I'm unfollowing the thread now, and leave you at peace

I wouldn't usually respond to a post like this, but it really rubbed me the wrong way for multiple reasons, and while I want to be the bigger person and walk away I just can't because this is some grade A bull****.

Firstly I understood that the proposed changes were not going to be popular with everyone, and I knew that you specifically wouldn't be happy as I know your fondness for both bumps and blanks, it's well documented. But to suggest that I'm selfish because I made design choices based on the feedback I received is ludicrous and I would counter that it shows your own selfishness, or at least immaturity, given that your willing to call people out for not including the exact keys that you wanted. You may disagree with my design choices, that's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I have and will continue to take all opinions into account, including yours. If you follow this thread you will clearly see that I have made many adaptions based on feedback, for example using win98 winkeys, adding R5 and adding LED keys (although this has been removed in the proposed changes). The truth is that the only keys I will likely use are the base, wkl, split right shift and maybe 65/75%, so all these additions have no affect on the set for me personally, they are simply to make the set more appealing to as many people as possible. I considered adding bumped f/j keys but decided that adding full R4 wkl and 1800 support was more important and were changes that reflected what the majority of people wanted.

Secondly I truly believe that when your designing a set you should design it primarily for yourself. Why would I design a set I wouldn't purchase myself? Expecting IC/GB runners to drop the things they care about to accommodate what you want is selfish, not every set will include what you want and that variety is a good thing. When designing a set you can't just include everything and call it a day, you have to make choices about what to include and not to because price is a major factor in reaching MOQ.

Finally, this set (with the proposed changes) does include almost all non-regular keycaps.

As I've mentioned earlier, it is perfectly fine that you have preferences as to what keys you want included in any given set, but I take issue when you call me out for being selfish when I have tried my hardest to design a set that accommodates as many layouts as possible, while keeping the price as low as possible and making it as accessible as possible. Especially when there is clear evidence that I have made design choices that were not in my best interests.

To everyone who came here to discuss and help me with the design of this set, I am extremely sorry that you had to read this and I highly appreciate your input, this set wouldn't be as awesome as it is (both iterations) without it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: shower_king on Mon, 01 August 2016, 19:55:20
There are types of GB-runners, some just want a set for themselves, and for possible layouts they might use in the future - some genuinely improve their set to help other majorities too, I'm not even saying minorities, some do that too - So blanks are probably removed because the GB-runner decided to use diamonds instead

I just don't get not including 2 small F/J's, and adding many more keys to extend layout compatibility, it just blows my mind
This is now a good indicator for me, if bumped F/J's are refuted early on, I mark the IC/GB as a selfish one

The same pattern appeared on Skidata+ too, Anyway, I give up on this GB, This type of IC/GB's is definitely not for me

(I also mourn for the wasted WoB/Originative/GMK-enthusiast resources, I really urged Sheraton to run a WoB set himself with many extra packs, kind of like the midnight SP or Granite set, where you buy alphas, modifiers, extras packs etc. It would be nice to have one GMK colorway that is widely available, with almost all non-regular keycaps produced with it- but now, if this GB succeeds, we won't likely see another WoB attempt)

Please excuse me, I try to be positive, but sometimes I just can't, so I'm unfollowing the thread now, and leave you at peace
IC itself is compromise and uncompromise.Striking balance between improving and adhering to. Mr. effectiveduck have done a lot between attracting more audience and low price in a balanced way. From my pointview, he has done great and improved a lot on this layout.
i don't think this layout will attract much more with FJ bars and lose many interest without FJ bars. He is the starter and whether he could adopt your suggestion or not fully depend on him. i also provide my advice for this . if he ignore them ,i would accept and appreciate his decision. it is very ridiculous that you mark this as selfish GB just because FJ bars you asked could not be included. i have also saw you many times annoyingly asking many GB' Starters to adding FJ bars even saying that you could join them if adding FJ and don't join if no FJ. Please be aware of that this is a forum not your home you could do what you like to ignore others feelings.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 01 August 2016, 22:09:18
I really feel sorry for the guy that has no self control to avoid making personal remarks to anyone that is against his precious bars and blanks. I also felt compelled to answer him on his last discourse on selfishness; because, it is really easy to see that his is speaking about his own motivations and not of the others. Only, the immature cannot think beyond his/her own skin, and it appears this is a good example.

Back on business, this is a great proposal for a white on black set, something that has not been offered before and that would be one of the more complete sets of its kind; there are some new GMK white on black sets available at some internet stores; but, this will be better than any of them and at a lower price, what else we can ask for?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: bloorocket on Tue, 02 August 2016, 00:12:41
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN
It will look something like JTK Debut with my current setup!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 02 August 2016, 00:21:14
I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 02 August 2016, 00:49:21
can we get scoops?  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: romevi on Tue, 02 August 2016, 07:55:13
I like bars. But we're too few and far in between.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:36:25
Any chance for nipples?  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 02 August 2016, 21:51:42
Thank you for running this, I will save some money for this, I just cannot let it to pass, it has everything I always wanted in a white on black set.

(http://i.imgur.com/khMNFAb.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: romevi on Tue, 02 August 2016, 21:55:26
Thank you for running this, I will save some money for this, I just cannot let it to pass, it has everything I always wanted in a white on black set.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/khMNFAb.gif)


Same. Going to refrain from buying to make sure I can make this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 03 August 2016, 02:50:03
Please add homing bars! More than 50% of users want them!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 03 August 2016, 19:54:18
if you don't like scoops ....

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Wed, 03 August 2016, 20:10:29
Please add homing bars! More than 50% of users want them!  :thumb:

(http://i.imgur.com/89WUhsW.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: romevi on Wed, 03 August 2016, 20:33:50
Please add homing bars! More than 50% of users want them!  :thumb:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/89WUhsW.png)


Including him.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: Khers on Thu, 04 August 2016, 02:10:25
if you don't like scoops ....

(Attachment Link)
+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 04 August 2016, 02:22:33
if you don't like scoops ....

(Attachment Link)
+1
-1000
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 04 August 2016, 02:35:45
Listen to the prophet. GMK has recently started to sell its own uniqey keyboard, which uses - you guessed it righ - GMK keycaps. Did it use scoops or bars? It used bars.

Do we need another thread about bars?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76169.0

When a prophet speaks in the name of the GMK LORD, if the word does not come to... Whoever refuses to listen to the bars, shall find it is at his peril.

The prophet has spoken.

(https://uniqey.net/media/image/71/05/be/UNIQEY_Q100_graphite_white_wooddesk_top-cropped.jpg)




Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 04 August 2016, 04:32:07
First off thank you to everyone for there input, I'm glad that most people are happy with the proposed changes.  ;D

I think I'm gonna to commit the changes to the WoB set but leave the magenta set as is, since I agree that it needs to be a bit more standard and with this setup we have basically every windows or windows replacement key offered between the sets. :thumb:

So I'm terribly sorry to the bump fans but they won't be included in the set for now, if we hit 250 we can consider having them added.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: r5d on Thu, 04 August 2016, 05:50:53
Do I understand correctly, the magenta windows keys will also have the windows 95 logo, only the render isn't updated yet?
I'm a sucker for the retro win95 logo.

I'd be in for the WoB set with win95 legends and also the magenta addon if it has win95 legends.

Thanks for organizing this and cheers!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 04 August 2016, 06:14:12
Do I understand correctly, the magenta windows keys will also have the windows 95 logo, only the render isn't updated yet?
I'm a sucker for the retro win95 logo.

I'd be in for the WoB set with win95 legends and also the magenta addon if it has win95 legends.

Thanks for organizing this and cheers!

No sorry the magenta render is correct, I decided to keep win8 style keys in the magenta pack for variety and because I think it fits the more modern style of it. But I agree I love the win95 legends as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: joey on Thu, 04 August 2016, 06:20:09
No sorry the magenta render is correct, I decided to keep win8 style keys in the magenta pack for variety and because I think it fits the more modern style of it. But I agree I love the win95 legends as well.
One of those reason is that you're selfish /s
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: r5d on Thu, 04 August 2016, 06:47:06
No sorry the magenta render is correct, I decided to keep win8 style keys in the magenta pack for variety and because I think it fits the more modern style of it. But I agree I love the win95 legends as well.

Oh bummer, still in for WoB though. And I still might not be able to restrain myself from ordering magenta regardless.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: thelaughingman on Thu, 04 August 2016, 09:37:23
I joined GH just to post in this thread lol. That aside, I'm in for the Magenta mod pack. Just looking at it got me dreaming about a Carbon-Magenta mix/mess already! Thanks for designing the sets and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 04 August 2016, 09:53:08
First off thank you to everyone for there input, I'm glad that most people are happy with the proposed changes.  ;D

I think I'm gonna to commit the changes to the WoB set but leave the magenta set as is, since I agree that it needs to be a bit more standard and with this setup we have basically every windows or windows replacement key offered between the sets. :thumb:

So I'm terribly sorry to the bump fans but they won't be included in the set for now, if we hit 250 we can consider having them added.

Count me in if whenever you decide to include the bumps :-)  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 04 August 2016, 09:54:57
Those windows keys are ugly. Any windows key is ugly... Considering another option would be fantastic.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 04 August 2016, 10:11:17
Those windows keys are ugly. Any windows key is ugly... Considering another option would be fantastic.

Proposed WoB changes:
- Add R4 2x 1u and 2x 1.25u diamond keys

Specifically these:

(https://i.imgur.com/tJxER4u.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: shower_king on Thu, 04 August 2016, 19:44:05
Those windows keys are ugly. Any windows key is ugly... Considering another option would be fantastic.

Proposed WoB changes:
- Add R4 2x 1u and 2x 1.25u diamond keys

Specifically these:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tJxER4u.png)


yeah ,diamond or "code"legend is both ok.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 August 2016, 20:05:16
The DUCK's TUX set: Waiting for the final renders to get even more excited about this buy, an example of the maximum possible elegance for a keyboard, she cannot be dressed any better; but, in the simplicity of a white on black tuxedo set.

(http://i.imgur.com/NlObTi0.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: romevi on Thu, 04 August 2016, 20:11:48
Ha ha, Duck's Tux is a pretty cool name.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 August 2016, 23:32:02
I think , someone here asked to see actual pictures of the diamonds, I borrow this picture from Vergil@DT.

(http://i.imgur.com/CcJ3ec9.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: axtran on Thu, 04 August 2016, 23:49:53
I want R5 so badly. lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: romevi on Fri, 05 August 2016, 00:04:06
R5 is the best.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 05 August 2016, 01:39:39
The DUCK's TUX set: Waiting for the final renders to get even more excited about this buy, an example of the maximum possible elegance for a keyboard, she cannot be dressed any better; but, in the simplicity of a white on black tuxedo set.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NlObTi0.jpg)


Haha, I love the name!

I found this a while ago, seems like the perfect time to share :p

More
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 05 August 2016, 01:40:42
R5 RGBY with Y using Diamonds...

Lets make this happen
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: shower_king on Fri, 05 August 2016, 02:21:22
R5 RGBY with Y using Diamonds...

Lets make this happen

really? :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 05 August 2016, 06:32:31
The DUCK's TUX set: Waiting for the final renders to get even more excited about this buy, an example of the maximum possible elegance for a keyboard, she cannot be dressed any better; but, in the simplicity of a white on black tuxedo set.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NlObTi0.jpg)


Haha, I love the name!

I found this a while ago, seems like the perfect time to share :p

More

Exactly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 05 August 2016, 10:01:47
tux caps for a tux set

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0152/0433/products/linux-caps-2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1426171360)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: dorf on Sat, 06 August 2016, 08:04:43
This set is too elegant to miss!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [30/7: Pricing!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 06 August 2016, 09:57:02
I think , someone here asked to see actual pictures of the diamonds, I borrow this picture from Vergil@DT.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/CcJ3ec9.jpg)


I've got some HADapters coming too, can't wait to stop using these crappy non-GMK moggles with my cherry doubleshots!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 08 August 2016, 18:22:59
(https://s9.postimg.org/pv5rgat7z/R_185_2016_08_08.png)

Updated render! Looks perfect to me but please let me know if you notice anything wrong. :thumb:

Also I had to use yet another site to host the image, hopefully it works for everyone, please let me know if it doesn't.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: romevi on Mon, 08 August 2016, 18:25:58
Show Image
(https://s9.postimg.org/pv5rgat7z/R_185_2016_08_08.png)


Updated render! Looks perfect to me but please let me know if you notice anything wrong. :thumb:

Also I had to use yet another site to host the image, hopefully it works for everyone, please let me know if it doesn't.

Heck yes, diamonds. Diamonds in my eyes. Diamonds in the sky. Lucy in the sky with diamonds.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 August 2016, 18:28:12
This is my end game key set, I would not need anything else beyond the simplicity and beauty it has, thank you for the hard work.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: joey on Mon, 08 August 2016, 18:30:49
This is my end game key set, I would not need anything else beyond the simplicity and beauty it has, thank you for the hard work.
Exactly. Now I just need to get a beautiful board that deserves these!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 August 2016, 18:34:13
This is my end game key set, I would not need anything else beyond the simplicity and beauty it has, thank you for the hard work.
Exactly. Now I just need to get a beautiful board that deserves these!

(http://i.imgur.com/8ZYYkUv.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 09 August 2016, 00:39:17
Show Image
(https://s9.postimg.org/pv5rgat7z/R_185_2016_08_08.png)


Updated render! Looks perfect to me but please let me know if you notice anything wrong. :thumb:

Also I had to use yet another site to host the image, hopefully it works for everyone, please let me know if it doesn't.

Is this compatible with g90-1800, please add bars, also with an addon if it doesn't fit the main set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 09 August 2016, 00:50:40
Show Image
(https://s9.postimg.org/pv5rgat7z/R_185_2016_08_08.png)


Updated render! Looks perfect to me but please let me know if you notice anything wrong. :thumb:

Also I had to use yet another site to host the image, hopefully it works for everyone, please let me know if it doesn't.

Is this compatible with g90-1800, please add bars, also with an addon if it doesn't fit the main set.

It is compatible with 1800 keyboards and bars will be added if we reach 250 MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 August 2016, 00:57:41
I got the board and the artisan and the only thing left is just this set

Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Khers on Tue, 09 August 2016, 02:30:55
Show Image
(https://s9.postimg.org/pv5rgat7z/R_185_2016_08_08.png)


Updated render! Looks perfect to me but please let me know if you notice anything wrong. :thumb:

Also I had to use yet another site to host the image, hopefully it works for everyone, please let me know if it doesn't.
**** yes! I might just have to get two!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 09 August 2016, 03:42:50
So elegant

(http://i.imgur.com/qSvYHiV.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 09 August 2016, 10:17:55
Show Image
(https://s9.postimg.org/pv5rgat7z/R_185_2016_08_08.png)


Updated render! Looks perfect to me but please let me know if you notice anything wrong. :thumb:

Also I had to use yet another site to host the image, hopefully it works for everyone, please let me know if it doesn't.

Is this compatible with g90-1800, please add bars, also with an addon if it doesn't fit the main set.

It is compatible with 1800 keyboards and bars will be added if we reach 250 MOQ.

Just a few sets that are still in the works are actually compatible with 1800 keyboards, this is one of them, if it hits production first, it would be the first set with full 1800 compatibility, because, it includes a 6u space bar, that some 1800 need and also 7u space bar that some other 1800 models need.

Edit: Here is a sample of 1800 models; there are two main types, the ISO (6u) and the ANSI (7u), and they are partially covered, there are a couple of 1u mods missing Alt and Ctrl  fully. Pictures are not mine, I borrowed them from the Post your 1800... in the media sub forum.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 09 August 2016, 16:05:23

Just a few sets that are still in the works are actually compatible with 1800 keyboards, this is one of them, if it hits production first, it would be the first set with full 1800 compatibility, because, it includes a 6u space bar, that some 1800 need and also 7u space bar that some other 1800 models need.

Edit: Here is a sample of 1800 models; there are two main types, the ISO (6u) and the ANSI (7u), and they are partially covered, there are a couple of 1u mods missing Alt and Ctrl  fully. Pictures are not mine, I borrowed them from the Post your 1800... in the media sub forum.

Ideus, after looking at 1800 boards for a while, I think official Cherry-produced boards only comes in two variants, older 1800 with 1.5u mods and 7u spacebar, no winkey or menu. And newer 186x boards that has 7x1u mods (all the ones you would expect from a modern keyboard) and a 6u spacebar. I'm fairly sure I've seen the newer 186x variant in both ISO and ANSI (likewise for the older 1800 boards).

The boards with the other layout such as 6x1u mods with 7u spacebar looks unfamiliar. I'm unsure if Cherry ever made boards with those layouts, but I do know that aftermarket 1800 PCBs like Leeku1800 does support those.

I believe this set will fully cover the older style WKL 1800 board with appropriate legends, but not the newer 186x style ones (unless you're willing to have the legends not match the keys, in which case it's possible, since you do have enough R4 1u keys: 2x1u Winkey, 2x Diamonds, Ctrl and Alt, and the Fn key).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 09 August 2016, 16:13:52

Just a few sets that are still in the works are actually compatible with 1800 keyboards, this is one of them, if it hits production first, it would be the first set with full 1800 compatibility, because, it includes a 6u space bar, that some 1800 need and also 7u space bar that some other 1800 models need.

Edit: Here is a sample of 1800 models; there are two main types, the ISO (6u) and the ANSI (7u), and they are partially covered, there are a couple of 1u mods missing Alt and Ctrl  fully. Pictures are not mine, I borrowed them from the Post your 1800... in the media sub forum.

Ideus, after looking at 1800 boards for a while, I think official Cherry-produced boards only comes in two variants, older 1800 with 1.5u mods and 7u spacebar, no winkey or menu. And newer 186x boards that has 7x1u mods (all the ones you would expect from a modern keyboard) and a 6u spacebar. I'm fairly sure I've seen the newer 186x variant in both ISO and ANSI (likewise for the older 1800 boards).

The boards with the other layout such as 6x1u mods with 7u spacebar looks unfamiliar. I'm unsure if Cherry ever made boards with those layouts, but I do know that aftermarket 1800 PCBs like Leeku1800 does support those.

I believe this set will fully cover the older style WKL 1800 board with appropriate legends, but not the newer 186x style ones (unless you're willing to have the legends not match the keys, in which case it's possible, since you do have enough R4 1u keys: 2x1u Winkey, 2x Diamonds, Ctrl and Alt, and the Fn key).

I had one 1800 with ANSI layout, 6u space bar and 1u modifiers, I still have some pictures of the set I sold, check them and you will see it is an authentic OG Cherry, that I think was a 1800 old POS keyboard.

(http://i.imgur.com/DwCQZwf.jpg)

You can see the 1u modifiers in this picture.

(http://i.imgur.com/sA1JazZ.jpg)

In this picture, you can see the 6u space bar, that was an authentic OG Cherry one, made of PBT with off centered stem.

(http://i.imgur.com/qkPxgyj.jpg)

Here you have my proof of ownership.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 09 August 2016, 16:21:25

Just a few sets that are still in the works are actually compatible with 1800 keyboards, this is one of them, if it hits production first, it would be the first set with full 1800 compatibility, because, it includes a 6u space bar, that some 1800 need and also 7u space bar that some other 1800 models need.

Edit: Here is a sample of 1800 models; there are two main types, the ISO (6u) and the ANSI (7u), and they are partially covered, there are a couple of 1u mods missing Alt and Ctrl  fully. Pictures are not mine, I borrowed them from the Post your 1800... in the media sub forum.

Ideus, after looking at 1800 boards for a while, I think official Cherry-produced boards only comes in two variants, older 1800 with 1.5u mods and 7u spacebar, no winkey or menu. And newer 186x boards that has 7x1u mods (all the ones you would expect from a modern keyboard) and a 6u spacebar. I'm fairly sure I've seen the newer 186x variant in both ISO and ANSI (likewise for the older 1800 boards).

The boards with the other layout such as 6x1u mods with 7u spacebar looks unfamiliar. I'm unsure if Cherry ever made boards with those layouts, but I do know that aftermarket 1800 PCBs like Leeku1800 does support those.

I believe this set will fully cover the older style WKL 1800 board with appropriate legends, but not the newer 186x style ones (unless you're willing to have the legends not match the keys, in which case it's possible, since you do have enough R4 1u keys: 2x1u Winkey, 2x Diamonds, Ctrl and Alt, and the Fn key).

I had one 1800 with ANSI layout, 6u space bar and 1u modifiers, I still have some pictures of the set I sold, check them and you will see it is an authentic OG Cherry, that I think was a 1800 old POS keyboard.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/DwCQZwf.jpg)


You can see the 1u modifiers in this picture.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sA1JazZ.jpg)


In this picture, you can see the 6u space bar, that was an authentic OG Cherry one, made of PBT with off centered stem.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/qkPxgyj.jpg)


Here you have my proof of ownership.

Oh I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying all of the boards I've seen with the 1u mods have been newer types (1865 or whatever), and all 1800 boards I've come across have had 1.5u WKL arrangements.No doubt Cherry and their crazy naming convention makes things a lot more convoluted than it should be. I was just trying to make a generalisation about the main 1800 layouts and making a comment on how this keyset would fit both types.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 09 August 2016, 16:27:01

Just a few sets that are still in the works are actually compatible with 1800 keyboards, this is one of them, if it hits production first, it would be the first set with full 1800 compatibility, because, it includes a 6u space bar, that some 1800 need and also 7u space bar that some other 1800 models need.

Edit: Here is a sample of 1800 models; there are two main types, the ISO (6u) and the ANSI (7u), and they are partially covered, there are a couple of 1u mods missing Alt and Ctrl  fully. Pictures are not mine, I borrowed them from the Post your 1800... in the media sub forum.

Ideus, after looking at 1800 boards for a while, I think official Cherry-produced boards only comes in two variants, older 1800 with 1.5u mods and 7u spacebar, no winkey or menu. And newer 186x boards that has 7x1u mods (all the ones you would expect from a modern keyboard) and a 6u spacebar. I'm fairly sure I've seen the newer 186x variant in both ISO and ANSI (likewise for the older 1800 boards).

The boards with the other layout such as 6x1u mods with 7u spacebar looks unfamiliar. I'm unsure if Cherry ever made boards with those layouts, but I do know that aftermarket 1800 PCBs like Leeku1800 does support those.

I believe this set will fully cover the older style WKL 1800 board with appropriate legends, but not the newer 186x style ones (unless you're willing to have the legends not match the keys, in which case it's possible, since you do have enough R4 1u keys: 2x1u Winkey, 2x Diamonds, Ctrl and Alt, and the Fn key).

I had one 1800 with ANSI layout, 6u space bar and 1u modifiers, I still have some pictures of the set I sold, check them and you will see it is an authentic OG Cherry, that I think was a 1800 old POS keyboard.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/DwCQZwf.jpg)


You can see the 1u modifiers in this picture.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sA1JazZ.jpg)


In this picture, you can see the 6u space bar, that was an authentic OG Cherry one, made of PBT with off centered stem.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/qkPxgyj.jpg)


Here you have my proof of ownership.

Oh I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying all of the boards I've seen with the 1u mods have been newer types (1865 or whatever), and all 1800 boards I've come across have had 1.5u WKL arrangements.No doubt Cherry and their crazy naming convention makes things a lot more convoluted than it should be. I was just trying to make a generalisation about the main 1800 layouts and making a comment on how this keyset would fit both types.

I am not really familiar with 1800s, beyond the few samples I had in the past, I just try to provide some evidence for the people interested to figure out if the set covers their needs; in my humble opinion, the set as is now, is quite comprehensive already, that I would not ask for anything else; but, if the OP wants it to cover everything it may need a couple extra 1u mods, maybe, but the extra diamonds of the same size may replace those key caps; however, for the super-conservative extra picky collector, they may be a need, though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 09 August 2016, 17:17:14


I am not really familiar with 1800s, beyond the few samples I had in the past, I just try to provide some evidence for the people interested to figure out if the set covers their needs; in my humble opinion, the set as is now, is quite comprehensive already, that I would not ask for anything else; but, if the OP wants it to cover everything it may need a couple extra 1u mods, maybe, but the extra diamonds of the same size may replace those key caps; however, for the super-conservative extra picky collector, they may be a need, though.

I agree, most 1800 sets I've seen cater to the old WKL 1800 layout. This is one of the few that will conceivably cover a winkey 1800 as well (with a few minor niggles). For me personally I'm just happy to see ISO Shift and Enter!

Also, your 1800 set in the picture, I've never seen any 1800 keyset so vibrant. I assume it's a mixture of 1800 alphas and colourful mods from some other sets? I have never come across any 1800 with purple mods (or maybe I haven't been looking hard enough). Pity I wasn't lurking around when you were selling your set  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 09 August 2016, 17:59:54


I am not really familiar with 1800s, beyond the few samples I had in the past, I just try to provide some evidence for the people interested to figure out if the set covers their needs; in my humble opinion, the set as is now, is quite comprehensive already, that I would not ask for anything else; but, if the OP wants it to cover everything it may need a couple extra 1u mods, maybe, but the extra diamonds of the same size may replace those key caps; however, for the super-conservative extra picky collector, they may be a need, though.

I agree, most 1800 sets I've seen cater to the old WKL 1800 layout. This is one of the few that will conceivably cover a winkey 1800 as well (with a few minor niggles). For me personally I'm just happy to see ISO Shift and Enter!

Also, your 1800 set in the picture, I've never seen any 1800 keyset so vibrant. I assume it's a mixture of 1800 alphas and colourful mods from some other sets? I have never come across any 1800 with purple mods (or maybe I haven't been looking hard enough). Pity I wasn't lurking around when you were selling your set  :thumb:

Oh no, no, it is not a single set, it is a 1800 set and the other keys that came from different Ivan's GBs, the purple mods were in one, the colored escape keys came from another one along with the space bars and I mixed some other SP modifiers and single keys. At some level I regret a bit that I have sold it; but, now with this set coming I would not regret it anymore, this set will be complete and nothing will be missing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 09 August 2016, 18:40:01


I am not really familiar with 1800s, beyond the few samples I had in the past, I just try to provide some evidence for the people interested to figure out if the set covers their needs; in my humble opinion, the set as is now, is quite comprehensive already, that I would not ask for anything else; but, if the OP wants it to cover everything it may need a couple extra 1u mods, maybe, but the extra diamonds of the same size may replace those key caps; however, for the super-conservative extra picky collector, they may be a need, though.

I agree, most 1800 sets I've seen cater to the old WKL 1800 layout. This is one of the few that will conceivably cover a winkey 1800 as well (with a few minor niggles). For me personally I'm just happy to see ISO Shift and Enter!

Also, your 1800 set in the picture, I've never seen any 1800 keyset so vibrant. I assume it's a mixture of 1800 alphas and colourful mods from some other sets? I have never come across any 1800 with purple mods (or maybe I haven't been looking hard enough). Pity I wasn't lurking around when you were selling your set  :thumb:

Oh no, no, it is not a single set, it is a 1800 set and the other keys that came from different Ivan's GBs, the purple mods were in one, the colored escape keys came from another one along with the space bars and I mixed some other SP modifiers and single keys. At some level I regret a bit that I have sold it; but, now with this set coming I would not regret it anymore, this set will be complete and nothing will be missing.

I'm gonna pick this set up for sure. WoB is timeless, just goes with everything! Maybe it's a sign of age but I don't really get excited by all these Technicolor sets as much as I used to. Just give me OG Beige Cherry or something simple. Or Dolch. Love me some Dolch... Can't get enough of the stuff!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: dbucklin on Fri, 12 August 2016, 10:24:41
Count me in. I want a bunch of GMK sets so I can mix and match.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 12 August 2016, 14:35:51


I am not really familiar with 1800s, beyond the few samples I had in the past, I just try to provide some evidence for the people interested to figure out if the set covers their needs; in my humble opinion, the set as is now, is quite comprehensive already, that I would not ask for anything else; but, if the OP wants it to cover everything it may need a couple extra 1u mods, maybe, but the extra diamonds of the same size may replace those key caps; however, for the super-conservative extra picky collector, they may be a need, though.

I agree, most 1800 sets I've seen cater to the old WKL 1800 layout. This is one of the few that will conceivably cover a winkey 1800 as well (with a few minor niggles). For me personally I'm just happy to see ISO Shift and Enter!

Also, your 1800 set in the picture, I've never seen any 1800 keyset so vibrant. I assume it's a mixture of 1800 alphas and colourful mods from some other sets? I have never come across any 1800 with purple mods (or maybe I haven't been looking hard enough). Pity I wasn't lurking around when you were selling your set  :thumb:

Oh no, no, it is not a single set, it is a 1800 set and the other keys that came from different Ivan's GBs, the purple mods were in one, the colored escape keys came from another one along with the space bars and I mixed some other SP modifiers and single keys. At some level I regret a bit that I have sold it; but, now with this set coming I would not regret it anymore, this set will be complete and nothing will be missing.

I'm gonna pick this set up for sure. WoB is timeless, just goes with everything! Maybe it's a sign of age but I don't really get excited by all these Technicolor sets as much as I used to. Just give me OG Beige Cherry or something simple. Or Dolch. Love me some Dolch... Can't get enough of the stuff!

It is a sign of a well refined good taste, that feels comfortable with minimalism and function over form.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 13 August 2016, 13:39:13

It is a sign of a well refined good taste, that feels comfortable with minimalism and function over form.

Thanks for your kind words, my friends would've just call me a boring old ****  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 16 August 2016, 16:14:28
Any updates on pricing? I understand if you want to wait until the GB phase to disclose that information; but, just wondering.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 16 August 2016, 20:21:23
Any updates on pricing? I understand if you want to wait until the GB phase to disclose that information; but, just wondering.

We will be running this set a little bit differently, for each milestone (250, 500 sets sold, etc) there will be a price reduction and a few keys added at each. So we're waiting on pricing for each tier with the additional keys from GMK, once we have that we will factor in all the additional costs and give a price break down.

We also added 2 small keys to the base set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 16 August 2016, 20:40:20
Any updates on pricing? I understand if you want to wait until the GB phase to disclose that information; but, just wondering.

We will be running this set a little bit differently, for each milestone (250, 500 sets sold, etc) there will be a price reduction and a few keys added at each. So we're waiting on pricing for each tier with the additional keys from GMK, once we have that we will factor in all the additional costs and give a price break down.

We also added 2 small keys to the base set.

Great news, thank you very much for the feedback, the set is getting even better.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: romevi on Tue, 16 August 2016, 21:08:40
We also added 2 small keys to the base set.

What could they be? I wonder if this will help bump interest...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 16 August 2016, 21:20:17
We also added 2 small keys to the base set.

What could they be? I wonder if this will help bump interest...  :rolleyes:

nipples?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 16 August 2016, 22:05:37
We also added 2 small keys to the base set.

What could they be? I wonder if this will help bump interest...  ::)

nipples?

Bars maybe?

(http://i.imgur.com/VzYwGdG.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 16 August 2016, 22:28:16
We also added 2 small keys to the base set.

What could they be? I wonder if this will help bump interest...  :rolleyes:

Very interested, thank you :-)))))

Nothing bars us from entering now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 17 August 2016, 22:54:35
Hey, got an update for everyone.

These sets will be launching around the 2nd-5th of September!

Big thanks to jchan94 for graciously pushing his GB back a couple of weeks for us to proceed first.

I'll have a few more updates regarding pricing, how long the GB will be open, etc pretty soon. In the mean time check out Keyboard&co if you haven't already :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 August 2016, 22:57:31
This, Hydro, and Plum will be my only GMK purchases this year.




I hope.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 17 August 2016, 22:59:24
This, Hydro, and Plum will be my only GMK purchases this year.

...Romevi lied  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 August 2016, 23:00:34
This, Hydro, and Plum will be my only GMK purchases this year.

...Romevi lied 

What'd I do?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 17 August 2016, 23:15:03
This, Hydro, and Plum will be my only GMK purchases this year.

...Romevi lied 

What'd I do?

Set up my awful joke about spending too much money
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 August 2016, 23:16:17
This, Hydro, and Plum will be my only GMK purchases this year.

...Romevi lied 

What'd I do?

Set up my awful joke about spending too much money

rip
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 18 August 2016, 02:18:27
This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 18 August 2016, 02:33:39
This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

You'll have to ask someone at Originative about that, they're handling distribution not me
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: r5d on Thu, 18 August 2016, 05:27:52
This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

You'll have to ask someone at Originative about that, they're handling distribution not me

Originative is a legitimate business and I don't think they would endanger themselves by lying about export value. Everything I have ordered from them was declared correctly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: dadoduk on Thu, 18 August 2016, 07:23:54

No Originative!!

Customer Service is the worst!!

If GB will be opened in Originative, I  will give up GB!!

No, No, No!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 18 August 2016, 08:25:16

No Originative!!

Customer Service is the worst!!

If GB will be opened in Originative, I  will give up GB!!

No, No, No!!

Sorry to hear that you've had some bad experiences, I hope you'll give them a second chance and join this group buy. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 18 August 2016, 09:00:52
This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

You'll have to ask someone at Originative about that, they're handling distribution not me

Originative is a legitimate business and I don't think they would endanger themselves by lying about export value. Everything I have ordered from them was declared correctly.

LOL.

I pass. No more interest. Thanks anyway for this IC.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: r5d on Thu, 18 August 2016, 09:07:09
What is the gripe with Originative Co.? I've had nothing but great experiences with them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: joey on Thu, 18 August 2016, 09:12:33
This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

You'll have to ask someone at Originative about that, they're handling distribution not me

Originative is a legitimate business and I don't think they would endanger themselves by lying about export value. Everything I have ordered from them was declared correctly.

LOL.

I pass. No more interest. Thanks anyway for this IC.
You could find a proxy in the US.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Thu, 18 August 2016, 10:32:27
Any chance to add 1u diamonds in R5 profile? Those rock!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: romevi on Thu, 18 August 2016, 10:46:43
Any chance to add 1u diamonds in R5 profile? Those rock!

Agreed!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 18 August 2016, 13:52:34
This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

This will be shipped, ahem, with full value declared on the package, or there's space for a mistake?

You'll have to ask someone at Originative about that, they're handling distribution not me

Originative is a legitimate business and I don't think they would endanger themselves by lying about export value. Everything I have ordered from them was declared correctly.

LOL.

I pass. No more interest. Thanks anyway for this IC.
You could find a proxy in the US.

Thanks, it seems that not all hope is lost. I like too much this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 18 August 2016, 16:52:40
What is the gripe with Originative Co.? I've had nothing but great experiences with them.

same. i also appreciate them stepping in to handle more group buys since paypal started freezing people's accounts.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 18 August 2016, 20:05:16
What is the gripe with Originative Co.? I've had nothing but great experiences with them.

same. i also appreciate them stepping in to handle more group buys since paypal started freezing people's accounts.

+1 and this group buy wouldn't be happening without them
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Thu, 18 August 2016, 20:27:30
What is the gripe with Originative Co.? I've had nothing but great experiences with them.

same. i also appreciate them stepping in to handle more group buys since paypal started freezing people's accounts.

+1 and this group buy wouldn't be happening without them

It is really great to have Originative involved, I am sure they are improving on any issue the had and they are getting better with all this experience managing group buys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 19 August 2016, 07:21:12
Any chance to add 1u diamonds in R5 profile? Those rock!

Agreed!  :p

It's a bit too late to add them in the "standard" set but I'll looking into having them added if we hit a price tier (likely 500 sets).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 19 August 2016, 08:04:37
Any chance to add 1u diamonds in R5 profile? Those rock!

Agreed!  :p

It's a bit too late to add them in the "standard" set but I'll looking into having them added if we hit a price tier (likely 500 sets).

Uh! well, I really hope the set does that great on terms of demand; but, realistically speaking, being a classic black set it is unlikely that that many fellows order one; but, again, thank you for your responsiveness. I just think that the proposal of the tennis-shoe set on offer now, that includes them, is really cool.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 20 August 2016, 03:26:17
Any chance to add 1u diamonds in R5 profile? Those rock!

Agreed!  :p

It's a bit too late to add them in the "standard" set but I'll looking into having them added if we hit a price tier (likely 500 sets).

Uh! well, I really hope the set does that great on terms of demand; but, realistically speaking, being a classic black set it is unlikely that that many fellows order one; but, again, thank you for your responsiveness. I just think that the proposal of the tennis-shoe set on offer now, that includes them, is really cool.

Well. Surely it's nicer than beige :-)

Edit: bars added to the base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Sat, 20 August 2016, 05:33:16
Any chance to add 1u diamonds in R5 profile? Those rock!

Agreed!  :p

It's a bit too late to add them in the "standard" set but I'll looking into having them added if we hit a price tier (likely 500 sets).

Uh! well, I really hope the set does that great on terms of demand; but, realistically speaking, being a classic black set it is unlikely that that many fellows order one; but, again, thank you for your responsiveness. I just think that the proposal of the tennis-shoe set on offer now, that includes them, is really cool.

Well. Surely it's nicer than beige :-)

I hope that this does better, because I need bars, which come after 250 sets sold.

Bars were added to the base, haven't gotten an updated render yet
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Sat, 20 August 2016, 09:20:02
Any chance to add 1u diamonds in R5 profile? Those rock!

Agreed!  :p

It's a bit too late to add them in the "standard" set but I'll looking into having them added if we hit a price tier (likely 500 sets).

Uh! well, I really hope the set does that great on terms of demand; but, realistically speaking, being a classic black set it is unlikely that that many fellows order one; but, again, thank you for your responsiveness. I just think that the proposal of the tennis-shoe set on offer now, that includes them, is really cool.

Well. Surely it's nicer than beige :-)

I hope that this does better, because I need bars, which come after 250 sets sold.

Bars were added to the base, haven't gotten an updated render yet

Well, this will be my chance to try bars on a Cherry set, I really love scoops since the first time I try them, I remember the wow factor the first time I typed on an OG Cherry with scoops.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 20 August 2016, 09:27:14
Any chance to add 1u diamonds in R5 profile? Those rock!

Agreed!  :p

It's a bit too late to add them in the "standard" set but I'll looking into having them added if we hit a price tier (likely 500 sets).

Uh! well, I really hope the set does that great on terms of demand; but, realistically speaking, being a classic black set it is unlikely that that many fellows order one; but, again, thank you for your responsiveness. I just think that the proposal of the tennis-shoe set on offer now, that includes them, is really cool.

Well. Surely it's nicer than beige :-)

I hope that this does better, because I need bars, which come after 250 sets sold.

Bars were added to the base, haven't gotten an updated render yet

I'm a scoops4life type of guy, bars feels like rolling my fingers over speed bumps every time I hit the keys. But I appreciate you adding those keys to the set for the ones who prefer it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: airs on Sat, 20 August 2016, 22:32:13
Hope this sees the light of day, such a beautiful set. Would be in for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Sat, 20 August 2016, 22:33:42
Hope this sees the light of day, such a beautiful set. Would be in for sure.

It's launching in ~2 weeks  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 20 August 2016, 23:39:57
Hope this sees the light of day, such a beautiful set. Would be in for sure.

It's launching in ~2 weeks  ;D

I'm very happy for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 21 August 2016, 04:25:08
Hope this sees the light of day, such a beautiful set. Would be in for sure.

It's launching in ~2 weeks  ;D

No new quote for the WoB set yet?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 21 August 2016, 04:49:42
OMG OMG OMG :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: dorf on Sun, 21 August 2016, 06:01:12
Hope this sees the light of day, such a beautiful set. Would be in for sure.

It's launching in ~2 weeks  ;D

I will be ready!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 21 August 2016, 08:32:26
(http://i.imgur.com/mUK1HqF.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 25 August 2016, 02:28:08
Sorry to bother you, but how can 1800 layout be supported there are only one 1u Alt and Ctrl?

(http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G8x-1800_0_Aufs.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Shikarikato on Thu, 25 August 2016, 03:26:57
Sorry to bother you, but how can 1800 layout be supported there are only one 1u Alt and Ctrl?

Show Image
(http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G8x-1800_0_Aufs.jpg)

take a look again
there's a 1x fn and Windows key or you could use one of the diamonds
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 25 August 2016, 03:39:51
Sorry to bother you, but how can 1800 layout be supported there are only one 1u Alt and Ctrl?

Show Image
(http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G8x-1800_0_Aufs.jpg)

take a look again
there's a 1x fn and Windows key or you could use one of the diamonds

there is only one 1u alt and one 1u ctrl

but the bottom row can be arranged like this

ctrl windows alt  ----space---- diamond windows fn diamond
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 25 August 2016, 04:38:21
Sorry to bother you, but how can 1800 layout be supported there are only one 1u Alt and Ctrl?

Show Image
(http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G8x-1800_0_Aufs.jpg)

take a look again
there's a 1x fn and Windows key or you could use one of the diamonds

there is only one 1u alt and one 1u ctrl

but the bottom row can be arranged like this

ctrl windows alt  ----space---- diamond windows fn diamond

As you've mentioned it is possible to cover a 1u bottom row but the legends will not be correct, however 1u menu keys (R4 and R5) and a second 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl will be added at 250 and 500 MOQ respectfully. So if we hit 500 then it will support it 100%.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Fri, 26 August 2016, 06:29:58
Unfortunately I don't have WoB winkeyless mods but she's still beautiful

(https://s22.postimg.io/a13lg7qk1/DSC0100.jpg)

... And slightly out of focus  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: bloorocket on Fri, 26 August 2016, 23:39:24
Cant wait for this MOD PACK
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 28 August 2016, 05:43:19
Sorry to bother you, but how can 1800 layout be supported there are only one 1u Alt and Ctrl?

Show Image
(http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G8x-1800_0_Aufs.jpg)

take a look again
there's a 1x fn and Windows key or you could use one of the diamonds

there is only one 1u alt and one 1u ctrl

but the bottom row can be arranged like this

ctrl windows alt  ----space---- diamond windows fn diamond

As you've mentioned it is possible to cover a 1u bottom row but the legends will not be correct, however 1u menu keys (R4 and R5) and a second 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl will be added at 250 and 500 MOQ respectfully. So if we hit 500 then it will support it 100%.

I wish we could reach that heigths, and I'm quite sure that we'll make it.

But, just to make me feel more comfortable, I think that you could allow those who purchase a full set, to buy some extra keys. One addon pack made of 4 keys: 1u R1, 1u R2, 1u R3, 1u R4. That would be great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 28 August 2016, 07:03:37
Sorry to bother you, but how can 1800 layout be supported there are only one 1u Alt and Ctrl?

Show Image
(http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G8x-1800_0_Aufs.jpg)

take a look again
there's a 1x fn and Windows key or you could use one of the diamonds

there is only one 1u alt and one 1u ctrl

but the bottom row can be arranged like this

ctrl windows alt  ----space---- diamond windows fn diamond

As you've mentioned it is possible to cover a 1u bottom row but the legends will not be correct, however 1u menu keys (R4 and R5) and a second 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl will be added at 250 and 500 MOQ respectfully. So if we hit 500 then it will support it 100%.

I wish we could reach that heigths, and I'm quite sure that we'll make it.

But, just to make me feel more comfortable, I think that you could allow those who purchase a full set, to buy some extra keys. One addon pack made of 4 keys: 1u R1, 1u R2, 1u R3, 1u R4. That would be great.

That's never gonna happen with GMK's MOQ, unless you're willing to buy 150 sets of those 4 keys  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Sun, 28 August 2016, 07:09:06

I wish we could reach that heigths, and I'm quite sure that we'll make it.

But, just to make me feel more comfortable, I think that you could allow those who purchase a full set, to buy some extra keys. One addon pack made of 4 keys: 1u R1, 1u R2, 1u R3, 1u R4. That would be great.

To be perfectly honest it's just not feasible to have a small add-on pack. Mainly because it likely wouldn't hit MOQ, would be redundant if we had 500 orders and it's far too late to be adding new stuff now, the group buy is happening in ~ a week.

However I think we have a very good chance of reaching 500 sets sold, so I wouldn't worry about it :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 28 August 2016, 08:35:13

To be perfectly honest it's just not feasible to have a small add-on pack. Mainly because it likely wouldn't hit MOQ, would be redundant if we had 500 orders and it's far too late to be adding new stuff now, the group buy is happening in ~ a week.

However I think we have a very good chance of reaching 500 sets sold, so I wouldn't worry about it :thumb:

Hey effectiveduck, have you got anymore information about the pricing for the whole kit and any plans for pricing tiers? Also how long will the group buy period be?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Sun, 28 August 2016, 09:13:03
Hey effectiveduck, have you got anymore information about the pricing for the whole kit and any plans for pricing tiers? Also how long will the group buy period be?

Hey mate,

I can't give definitive pricing just yet, it'll probably be released a day or 2 before the GB starts, but it's very low considering the number of keys included.

The WoB set will have price reductions at 250, 500 and 1000 as well as additional keys at 250 and 500, the magenta set will also have price drops but won't have any additional keys. The group buy will last between 3 weeks and a month, so you'll have plenty of time to save up.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 28 August 2016, 09:21:41
Hey effectiveduck, have you got anymore information about the pricing for the whole kit and any plans for pricing tiers? Also how long will the group buy period be?

Hey mate,

I can't give definitive pricing just yet, it'll probably be released a day or 2 before the GB starts, but it's very low considering the number of keys included.

The WoB set will have price reductions at 250, 500 and 1000 as well as additional keys at 250 and 500, the magenta set will also have price drops but won't have any additional keys. The group buy will last between 3 weeks and a month, so you'll have plenty of time to save up.  :thumb:

Thanks for your consideration, counting the pennies starting now  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 28 August 2016, 09:41:24
This is one of the most compatible sets ever in the most elegant and classic color possible, I just hope it reaches good demand so we can get it at a great price, also. Even those that do prefer bright colors could appreciate the value of having this example of a classic revamped.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 28 August 2016, 09:51:56
This is one of the most compatible sets ever in the most elegant and classic color possible, I just hope it reaches good demand so we can get it at a great price, also. Even those that do prefer bright colors could appreciate the value of having this example of a classic revamped.

The black makes brighter and more dramatic any mod set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 28 August 2016, 10:37:33
This is one of the most compatible sets ever in the most elegant and classic color possible, I just hope it reaches good demand so we can get it at a great price, also. Even those that do prefer bright colors could appreciate the value of having this example of a classic revamped.

I think those magenta mods are plenty bright!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Sun, 28 August 2016, 13:44:43
This is one of the most compatible sets ever in the most elegant and classic color possible, I just hope it reaches good demand so we can get it at a great price, also. Even those that do prefer bright colors could appreciate the value of having this example of a classic revamped.

I think those magenta mods are plenty bright!  :p

An splash of color that perfectly fits the classic of classics.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 28 August 2016, 15:10:44

An splash of color that perfectly fits the classic of classics.

 :))

No mixing of mod packs though, just go with a base and and accent, I don't know how people can deal with having each modifier be a different colour, it bugs the heck out of me!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 05 September 2016, 10:35:17
And it's live everyone!!!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: joey on Mon, 05 September 2016, 10:50:15
http://www.kbdist.com/gmk-originative/

 [PARAGRAPH NOT FINISHED] made me laugh.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 September 2016, 11:51:21
Why this is not in the GB threads?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 05 September 2016, 12:12:25
Why this is not in the GB threads?

Not updated yet, it probably will soon  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 September 2016, 12:28:01
Why this is not in the GB threads?

Not updated yet, it probably will soon  :thumb:
Most likely waiting for a new one to be approved.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 September 2016, 12:31:30
Why this is not in the GB threads?

Not updated yet, it probably will soon  :thumb:
Most likely waiting for a new one to be approved.

Glad it is open already at the OR site; but, it would be good to have it approved here, too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: romevi on Mon, 05 September 2016, 13:41:45
What's the deadline?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 05 September 2016, 13:52:02
What's the deadline?

September 30th!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: romevi on Mon, 05 September 2016, 13:53:29
What's the deadline?

September 30th!

Plenty o' time. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: priyadi on Mon, 05 September 2016, 14:39:50
Is there any way I can order extra GHB keys with the set? Will need those for my trackpoint mod if possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 September 2016, 15:08:25
Is there any way I can order extra GHB keys with the set? Will need those for my trackpoint mod if possible.

Do you need some spares to ruin them?  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: priyadi on Mon, 05 September 2016, 15:19:59
Is there any way I can order extra GHB keys with the set? Will need those for my trackpoint mod if possible.

Do you need some spares to ruin them?  :))

more like trying to maintain resale value of the set :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 September 2016, 15:25:03
Is there any way I can order extra GHB keys with the set? Will need those for my trackpoint mod if possible.

Do you need some spares to ruin them?  :))

more like trying to maintain resale value of the set :)

Resale? who in its right mind get a set like this thinking in reselling it?  :o

Just joking!, good luck getting the extras you need, it seems to me like a very long shot, but who knows.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:08:01
Is there any way I can order extra GHB keys with the set? Will need those for my trackpoint mod if possible.

Do you need some spares to ruin them?  :))

more like trying to maintain resale value of the set :)

I think the way GMK works with their MOQs, you're better off buying out an entire 150 sets of just those 3 keys  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: priyadi on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:26:51
I think the way GMK works with their MOQs, you're better off buying out an entire 150 sets of just those 3 keys  :p

For this to work, I'm hoping MOQ can be counted per key, not per set. It would take GMK minimal effort to increase production of 200 "G" keycaps to 201, for example. Otherwise, I have to be content with blanks again this time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: joey on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:36:23
I think the way GMK works with their MOQs, you're better off buying out an entire 150 sets of just those 3 keys  :p

For this to work, I'm hoping MOQ can be counted per key, not per set. It would take GMK minimal effort to increase production of 200 "G" keycaps to 201, for example. Otherwise, I have to be content with blanks again this time.
It might not actually. We don't know the process, they might make a bunch of keys at a time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:38:07
Remind me to keep an eye on this. :P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:38:38
Remind me to keep an eye on this. :P

The buy is already open on Originative.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:56:01
How much the group buy fee is?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:56:23
Remind me to keep an eye on this. :P

JaccoW, keep an eye on this!

https://www.originativeco.com/products/originative (https://www.originativeco.com/products/originative)
https://www.originativeco.com/products/magenta-mods (https://www.originativeco.com/products/magenta-mods)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 05 September 2016, 17:14:50
I think the way GMK works with their MOQs, you're better off buying out an entire 150 sets of just those 3 keys  :p

For this to work, I'm hoping MOQ can be counted per key, not per set. It would take GMK minimal effort to increase production of 200 "G" keycaps to 201, for example. Otherwise, I have to be content with blanks again this time.

That's not how my understanding of GMK MOQs is, but I hope you're right.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 05 September 2016, 19:00:24
Hey everyone!

And it's live everyone!!!  ;D

After a long wait it's finally time!

http://www.kbdist.com/gmk-originative/

Thanks for posting while I was asleep  :p

How much the group buy fee is?

$3 per item

Is there any way I can order extra GHB keys with the set? Will need those for my trackpoint mod if possible.

AFAIK there isn't without ordering an extra set, you could potentially buy them of an ISO user whose using OG wob alphas but that might be pretty difficult.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 05 September 2016, 19:12:05
Also the render is not 100% up to date, barred f and j keys are included regardless of MOQ.

Christoph had been away from the past few weeks but is back as of yesterday I believe, so hopefully he'll get back to me soon with the updated render.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: shower_king on Mon, 05 September 2016, 19:15:47
Congratulas
the price and lay-out is pretty competitive
haha, i think there is no need for render of WoB, since it is classic pure white and black that everyone knows what the real one looks like
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 05 September 2016, 19:17:06

As you've mentioned it is possible to cover a 1u bottom row but the legends will not be correct, however 1u menu keys (R4 and R5) and a second 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl will be added at 250 and 500 MOQ respectfully. So if we hit 500 then it will support it 100%.

Hi effectiveduck, can you confirm the 2nd Ctrl and Alt keys at the 250 and 500 drop points respectively, like you mentioned earlier? I don't think I saw this mentioned on the kbdist listing. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 05 September 2016, 19:31:56
would be in for magenta if there was like one more r4 1u blank or ctrl/alt or something
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: KetchyKech on Mon, 05 September 2016, 20:43:23
In for the base set, thanks so much for this~!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 05 September 2016, 23:15:27

As you've mentioned it is possible to cover a 1u bottom row but the legends will not be correct, however 1u menu keys (R4 and R5) and a second 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl will be added at 250 and 500 MOQ respectfully. So if we hit 500 then it will support it 100%.

Hi effectiveduck, can you confirm the 2nd Ctrl and Alt keys at the 250 and 500 drop points respectively, like you mentioned earlier? I don't think I saw this mentioned on the kbdist listing. Thanks!

I completely forgot about this, so it wasn't planned but sherryton has agreed to have them added at 250, no change in cost :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: r5d on Tue, 06 September 2016, 01:33:58
Base set ordered! It's gonna be great!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 06 September 2016, 04:22:28
Should I order two sets, or a set plus modifiers?

First world problems.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: ideus on Tue, 06 September 2016, 10:21:46
Should I order two sets, or a set plus modifiers?

First world problems.

Get 2 each.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [9/8: New Render!]
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 06 September 2016, 11:10:43

As you've mentioned it is possible to cover a 1u bottom row but the legends will not be correct, however 1u menu keys (R4 and R5) and a second 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl will be added at 250 and 500 MOQ respectfully. So if we hit 500 then it will support it 100%.

Hi effectiveduck, can you confirm the 2nd Ctrl and Alt keys at the 250 and 500 drop points respectively, like you mentioned earlier? I don't think I saw this mentioned on the kbdist listing. Thanks!

I completely forgot about this, so it wasn't planned but sherryton has agreed to have them added at 250, no change in cost :thumb:

Thank you very much for the confirmation. As this GB will end at the same time as the now-extended Keyboard and Co, I will be grabbing one of each set in 2 weeks. Hype!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 06 September 2016, 21:02:16
When is the last date to order?

Edit: nvm 30th Sept
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 06 September 2016, 21:16:15
When is the last date to order?

30th of September, so plenty of time to order :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 07 September 2016, 00:48:34
I like it will be open the whole month. It gives everyone a chance to order and hopefully result in a high MOQ. Has op also created a thread in GB section? I don't see one. Could be a good idea to spread the word.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 07 September 2016, 01:10:01
I like it will be open the whole month. It gives everyone a chance to order and hopefully result in a high MOQ. Has op also created a thread in GB section? I don't see one. Could be a good idea to spread the word.

I have we're just waiting on approval, which will hopefully be soon
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 07 September 2016, 01:12:49
Good stuff! :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: Quackles on Wed, 07 September 2016, 02:08:05
This is a fantastic looking set. Plus I want to help an Aussie! So much amazing GMK sets popping up recently, going to have to consider this one seriously.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Wed, 07 September 2016, 15:33:46
Thanks for bringing us this WOB buy man.  :)  The colorway is classic as hell. The price is also damn reasonable. After hearing not-so-good things about JTK's legends it's only natural that WOB comes back GMK  :)).

It's nice to see a GMK set that doesn't feature gaudy neon, not a big fan of DSA-esque colorways with every shade under the sun coming to cherry; apparently GMK GmbH has really opened up (with Uniqey and all) to allow all these formerly DSA/SA keyset designers to bring their ideas to Cherry.

I've dealt with Originative a couple of times already and although the regular non-GB prices that sherry puts out are a bit hard to swallow, this one seems perfectly reasonable (as with Carbon a while ago on MD, nice to see this trend for GMK sets) and in my experience sherry & co has always been good with shipping and replying to emails.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 08 September 2016, 01:23:37
Since I'm not sure how long it will take for the GB thread to be approved I'll announce it here...



I'm giving away a Starcluster v2 (mx) and a Rustler (mx) from my personal collection to 2 lucky participants.

* The Starcluster will be available to participants of the main set and the Rustler will be available to all participants.

(https://i.imgur.com/cCnaePV.jpg)

Good luck!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: r5d on Thu, 08 September 2016, 02:36:37
OMG!  :eek: Do I need to opt-in? I have already placed my order.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: romevi on Thu, 08 September 2016, 08:33:02
Since I'm not sure how long it will take for the GB thread to be approved I'll announce it here...



I'm giving away a Starcluster v2 (mx) and a Rustler (mx) from my personal collection to 2 lucky participants.

* The Starcluster will be available to participants of the main set and the Rustler will be available to all participants.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cCnaePV.jpg)


Good luck!  ;D

lol The GB thread STILL hasn't been approved?!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: ideus on Thu, 08 September 2016, 10:36:20
Since I'm not sure how long it will take for the GB thread to be approved I'll announce it here...



I'm giving away a Starcluster v2 (mx) and a Rustler (mx) from my personal collection to 2 lucky participants.

* The Starcluster will be available to participants of the main set and the Rustler will be available to all participants.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cCnaePV.jpg)


Good luck!  ;D

OMG, I really would like to get the stars cluster, I am not really into artisans, but this in particular is one of the finest examples I have seen of an artisan's so far.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK White on Black and Magenta Mod Pack [LIVE!]
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 08 September 2016, 20:12:24
GB thread is open!

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84533.0

Huge thanks to Sherryton, the folks over at Originative and everyone who helped out during this IC!

OMG!  :eek: Do I need to opt-in? I have already placed my order.

I haven't fully worked out the details yet but I promise you won't miss out :thumb: I'll update soon

Locking this thread now. :)