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Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: wafflematt on Sun, 20 December 2009, 23:14:57

Hey,

I'm hoping somebody knows of a keyboard somewhere that has capslock replaced with two keys.  Really they can be whatever labels, but I plan on using them for control and escape.

I can't find one, so I imagine if it exists somewhere, this place would know!

Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: HaaTa on Mon, 21 December 2009, 02:47:30

Quote from: ripster;144107

Utron.  $1000 or whatever.

Show Image

(http://www.personal-media.co.jp/utronkb/images/utronkb-1.jpg)

Personally, I'd just pick up ESC off of some other key.  Like Tilde.

The keyboard is only OK (quality and feel). Definitely not worth ~50 000 Yen.
I'd have trouble shelling out $120 for it.

Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Mon, 21 December 2009, 04:26:48

The HP 46021C has the layout you seek:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6578&stc=1&d=1261390885)

It's a rubberdome board, but I'm sure other people can confirm that the
olden HP boards with violet dye-sublimation labels are beyond the
best rubberdomes.  It has a HP-HIL[1] interface though, so you'll either
need a matching HP 9000 RISC machien, or work on kbdbabel[2] to add support
for it.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6577&stc=1&d=1261390861)

I used it on a regular basis until I got my G80-3000LSMDE (blue
cherries) in 2005.  The HP 9000/735[3][4] is quite usable as a workstation
today.  Mine have 400 MB RAM and are running the latest Debian nicely.

Footnotes:
[1]  Human Interface Loop.  It's functionally similar to USB (serial bus including power supply) just invented 10 years earlier and not by Intel+Microsoft.

[2]  http://www.kbdbabel.org/

[3]  technical details: http://openpa.net/systems/hp-9000_735_755.html

[4]  more pr0n: http://www.pateam.org/images/cell/pictures/735/

Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 21 December 2009, 04:48:12

EDIT: Nevermind.

Title: Re: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Mon, 21 December 2009, 04:50:48

ch wrote on 5955 September 1993:

> Of course, you could always use a software solution.

A software solution to splitting a single, large key into two smaller
ones?

Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 21 December 2009, 04:52:47

Whoops, completely misread. Im only awake a few minutes!

If you can figure out a way to get a DEC VT100 keyboard running on a PC, you could use that too!

I think a converter for the DEC LK201 has been made, but you don't want to inflict that pain on your fingers...

Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 21 December 2009, 05:08:26

Quote from: bsvP585hUO2Y6;144121

ch wrote on 5955 September 1993:

Lolwut?

Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 21 December 2009, 05:14:44

Interesting stuff, never heard of it. In my defence - I was only four years old at the time.

Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: HaaTa on Mon, 21 December 2009, 23:18:24

Quote from: ripster;144177

Hey HaaTaa actually tried the Utron next to a HHKB2 - not just speculation.

Lol, forgot to explain that part.

Looking at the picture I took again, it looks like each half of the uTron is 49 700 Yen...

Title: ctrl and escape in place of capslock
Post by: HaaTa on Wed, 23 December 2009, 18:27:34

lol, you win.