why a thread for this? There's TONS of Roonery thread.
We got ourselves a race, bois!why a thread for this? There's TONS of Roonery thread.
Because:
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Also, this makes no sense..
If the Night's watch have NOTHING, and take on Nothing..
Then, why do it..
You either fight for wealth, women in this world..
What purpose do the nights watch have without either potentiality..
Also, this makes no sense..
If the Night's watch have NOTHING, and take on Nothing..
Then, why do it..
You either fight for wealth, women in this world..
What purpose do the nights watch have without either potentiality..
Honor. Do you haz?
You don't die alone. You die with your brothers.
You don't die alone. You die with your brothers.
---Let's go to the wall together absyrd, my geekhack brother---..
You see how ridiculously unappetizing that sounds...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
Does the wall have like... prison rules about man-on-man action?
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Does the wall have like... prison rules about man-on-man action?
You need not fear prison-rules, only that given time, you may come to like them.
Honor is primarily a contractual agreement between two people who intend to mutually scratch the backs of one another for --- a long time ---Bull****.
Honor is primarily a contractual agreement between two people who intend to mutually scratch the backs of one another for --- a long time ---Bull****.
There is the honour that others can bestow upon you ... and then there is the honour that comes from within.
Honor. Do you haz?
Honor is primarily a contractual agreement between two people who intend to mutually scratch the backs of one another for --- a long time ---
But it is never taken upon without SOME profit, or synergistic plunder..
Honor. Do you haz?
Honor is primarily a contractual agreement between two people who intend to mutually scratch the backs of one another for --- a long time ---
But it is never taken upon without SOME profit, or synergistic plunder..
I think that answers your question. If you think it's only taken for profit or synergistic plunder, then you don't know the definition of honor, at least not in this context. While honor can be bound in others, in general, in relation to the way that it is meant, it relates to, "honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions" It is self-defined, and self-enforced - a code. If your honor is rooted in someone else, it is only as good as the bond. There are some like that, but that kind of honor breaks easily. You also have external honor, i.e. honor bestowed by others, and internal honor. External honor can be rooted in self, but doesn't necessarily have to be. It's how people view you.
The honor of the Black Brothers is one of Brotherhood- the honor of the circle. Some have internal honor on top of that. We see the degradation of external honor at Craster's. But though Aliser Thorne was objectively wrong by the rules set forth, he didn't break his honor. He did what he thought was right for the Night's Watch as a whole. It involved him betraying his Lord Commander. Which meant that he held the Watch in higher esteem than his Lord Commander. Which is the height of honor and what whole epics have been written about. It's called Giri in the traditions of the samurai, and is a very personal and subjective thing, and is in direct opposition to Ninjo, or emotion and feeling.
In the Ser Aliser's case, it would have been easier to follow the rules set forth. However, his obligation to the Night's Watch made him take the more difficult, and more controversial path.
Honor is the either the action of a person paying debt, or the characteristic of the likelihood of repayment..You're equating all with some. Frex Sam, Aliser, Aemon , John, Mormont - none of them fall into that category. And just because it starts as an external debt, doesn't mean it ends as one.
The average recruit in the night's watch, well, since they're taken from the lowest of the socio-economic ladder, perhaps steady life is PROFIT.. However, this is only sustained by the fact that these men all DIE-young, long before they've become intelligent enough to understand how poor a deal the night's watch bargain is..
So in these men, we can not truly say they're honorable.. if anything it's dishonorable to have fundamentally TRICKED them into servitude.
Honor is the either the action of a person paying debt, or the characteristic of the likelihood of repayment..You're equating all with some. Frex Sam, Aliser, Aemon , John, Mormont - none of them fall into that category. And just because it starts as an external debt, doesn't mean it ends as one.
The average recruit in the night's watch, well, since they're taken from the lowest of the socio-economic ladder, perhaps steady life is PROFIT.. However, this is only sustained by the fact that these men all DIE-young, long before they've become intelligent enough to understand how poor a deal the night's watch bargain is..
So in these men, we can not truly say they're honorable.. if anything it's dishonorable to have fundamentally TRICKED them into servitude.
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the hell, this was about tp being ronery.
are those male fajitas?
are those male fajitas?
I was told it's a combination fajita + burrito..
But I am not total sure.. because I've been lied to before..
are those male fajitas?
I was told it's a combination fajita + burrito..
But I am not total sure.. because I've been lied to before..
Yes. Baja please.
Wait, no women or specifically no girls? I'm perfectly fine with no girls (kids scare me) but no women might be taking it a bit far don't you think?
Honor is the either the action of a person paying debt, or the characteristic of the likelihood of repayment..You're equating all with some. Frex Sam, Aliser, Aemon , John, Mormont - none of them fall into that category. And just because it starts as an external debt, doesn't mean it ends as one.
The average recruit in the night's watch, well, since they're taken from the lowest of the socio-economic ladder, perhaps steady life is PROFIT.. However, this is only sustained by the fact that these men all DIE-young, long before they've become intelligent enough to understand how poor a deal the night's watch bargain is..
So in these men, we can not truly say they're honorable.. if anything it's dishonorable to have fundamentally TRICKED them into servitude.
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You're looking at debt only in 1 person's timeline.
If we expand the timeline to include influence of actions upon others..
We could say that upholding honor is a general repayment of debt to society.. of which is Real, but not necessarily possible to tabulate..
Which is why there is always the Morality clause which people who live as part of societies uphold..
So I repeat again.. HONOR is the act of or the likely-quality debt repayment
are those male fajitas?
I was told it's a combination fajita + burrito..
But I am not total sure.. because I've been lied to before..
Yes. Baja please.
Wait, no women or specifically no girls? I'm perfectly fine with no girls (kids scare me) but no women might be taking it a bit far don't you think?
You are allowed to bring a female, only if you've captured her from the other side of the wall, and your name is Jon, or your last name is Snow.
are those male fajitas?
I was told it's a combination fajita + burrito..
But I am not total sure.. because I've been lied to before..
Yes. Baja please.
Wait, no women or specifically no girls? I'm perfectly fine with no girls (kids scare me) but no women might be taking it a bit far don't you think?
You are allowed to bring a female, only if you've captured her from the other side of the wall, and your name is Jon, or your last name is Snow.
Um, well, at least I asked :-[
are those male fajitas?
I was told it's a combination fajita + burrito..
But I am not total sure.. because I've been lied to before..
Yes. Baja please.
Wait, no women or specifically no girls? I'm perfectly fine with no girls (kids scare me) but no women might be taking it a bit far don't you think?
You are allowed to bring a female, only if you've captured her from the other side of the wall, and your name is Jon, or your last name is Snow.
You are allowed to bring a female, only if you've captured her from the other side of the wall, and your name is Jon, or your last name is Snow.
So if Ramsay got consigned to the wall and did it, he'd be OK? Or any northern bastards?
If I ever get to live in a clifftop castle.
I'm totally NOT going to have one of them moon-doors..
That's so stupid... some guy's just gonna throw you off in it..Show Image(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/1/18/Bronn_defeats_Vardis.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110615180140)
But the show has this season and one more "split" season before it's done for good.
But the show has this season and one more "split" season before it's done for good.
HBO: No decision has yet been made
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/14/game-thrones-end-date
Unless you have other references from HBO? I think a lot will be based on how soon they can get a successful tentpole. HBO doesn't kill something without having a replacement- at least historically.
But the show has this season and one more "split" season before it's done for good.
HBO: No decision has yet been made
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/14/game-thrones-end-date
Unless you have other references from HBO? I think a lot will be based on how soon they can get a successful tentpole. HBO doesn't kill something without having a replacement- at least historically.
D&D have eluded to this on a number of occasions, even recently. You're right that nothing is set in stone, but it's the most likely outcome.
Take anything they actually "confirm" with a grain of salt. It's all the stuff between the lines that has turned out to be the truth so far, no reason to believe that will change.
The scenario I mentioned gives them until Fall of 2018 to find something else to hype, I'm sure they can.
And honestly, if they try to drag it out much further than that the quality of the show will plummet. They already shortened it's lifetime by shoe-horning two massive books into season 5. To then drag out 2 theoretical books, to which they only have access to the skeletons, across four years would end fairly terribly.
Tp. I say this as a friend. Something tells me you're not made for the cold.
Also... Binging this show is so stressful. Too many emotions being played with.
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