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Title: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 13 May 2016, 17:00:04

I've been looking for a TKL with 67g Zealios, and found one for sale online with lubed MX Clears w/ 62g springs (Ergo Clears?). I'm not too familiar with that mod and was wondering if anyone would know how they compare to 67g Zealios in terms of feel. I've tried 62g Zealios and found that they were too light for me, but am wondering if the MX Clears would be any different.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: kohi on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:03:58

it's the same spring weight
if you didn't like the 62g zealios I suggest you pass and just try to look for one with 67g, or just do the mod yourself :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: LunarisDream on Mon, 16 May 2016, 23:55:22

You'll want something heavier. 67g is not significantly heavier than 62g.

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: Erzegovaz on Tue, 17 May 2016, 07:38:53

Hi guys, just some question...why a lot of people are interested of Zealios? I read a lot of people talking about 62 gr spring and something...but isnt too hard to press? Or labor/tire for work?
I usually write on brown switch (35 gr) and almost double weight I think is too much. Different feeling?

Thaaaaaaaanks

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: kohi on Tue, 17 May 2016, 11:26:10

Quote from: Erzegovaz on Tue, 17 May 2016, 07:38:53

Hi guys, just some question...why a lot of people are interested of Zealios? I read a lot of people talking about 62 gr spring and something...but isnt too hard to press? Or labor/tire for work?
I usually write on brown switch (35 gr) and almost double weight I think is too much. Different feeling?

Thaaaaaaaanks

the 62g refers to the bottom out force, not the actuation force... whereas the 35/45g is referring to actuation force - so in comparison, the 62g spring weight will be just slightly more heavier than a stock cherry mx brown switch

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 17 May 2016, 15:00:51

Thanks for the answers guys!

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: Erzegovaz on Tue, 17 May 2016, 15:28:21

aaaaah ok thanks :D
SO it`s just a mod for feeling...and just the springs. Or change something elso cherry vs zealios?

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 May 2016, 15:41:17

these springs have +/- 5 grams of force.

Especially the more used ones lose 5 grams,  like E ..

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: kohi on Tue, 17 May 2016, 16:04:04

Quote from: Erzegovaz on Tue, 17 May 2016, 15:28:21

aaaaah ok thanks :D
SO it`s just a mod for feeling...and just the springs. Or change something elso cherry vs zealios?

hmm, i'd also say the stem is a bit smoother and housing differs slightly as well
of course it's not going to be exactly the same but I guess people would consider zealios a 'refined ergo-clear'?
so yeah essentially it's just a mod for feeling

Title: Re: Lubed MX Clears with 62g springs as a substitute for 67g Zealios?
Post by: phosphoric on Thu, 19 May 2016, 13:09:49

Quote from: hojunski on Tue, 17 May 2016, 16:04:04

Quote from: Erzegovaz on Tue, 17 May 2016, 15:28:21

aaaaah ok thanks :D
SO it`s just a mod for feeling...and just the springs. Or change something elso cherry vs zealios?

hmm, i'd also say the stem is a bit smoother and housing differs slightly as well
of course it's not going to be exactly the same but I guess people would consider zealios a 'refined ergo-clear'?
so yeah essentially it's just a mod for feeling

the stem and housing are significantly smoother to the point where a stock mx clear and a zealio modded with a stock mx clear spring feel like two entirely different switches