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Title: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:21:31
(http://puu.sh/pdubA/a08c1996d2.png)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:22:34
Seriously.  I was just about to ask about that, but was checking to see that I hadn't missed some announcement. 
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:23:48
please buy my things.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:25:15
 :o

How long before we get inappropriate side bar ads?
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:27:01
ARE WE HACKED? R00TIESTOFW00RMIEST? PART DOS?
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Kompanion on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:27:08
some damn commie ebay. I refuse
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: jacobolus on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:28:24
The >>ALL CAPS<< let you know it’s >>LEGIT<<.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:28:31
:o

How long before we get inappropriate side bar ads?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rgOWrcGI-ww/TJC4J1qvBHI/AAAAAAAAAlw/7-JBVh1T9Qw/s320/LamporWoman.gif)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: nmur on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:28:39
oh when i clicked it i thought it was gonna be a cool keyboard related store

i was wrong

Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Moistgun on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:30:49
Its a fundraiser for Demik to go to college. those scholarships only go so far.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:32:49
yikes!!!! Is missalaire behind this?!
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:34:45
I literally only just saw this. What even are these bull**** burger dollar prices, I don't want any of this ****.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: iMav on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:37:07
For those that have a problem with the link, feel free to speak with me privately.

As many of you know, geekhack hosting has no longer been free for quite a while now.  While we did get several monthly subscribers to donate...MOST of them dropped their monthly donations after a couple of months.

This is the same company that sites like slashdot are using (deals.slashdot.org).  If you don't like it, either ignore the link or head over to Deskthority.  You don't have the financial responsibly to keep geekhack going...I do.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:39:54
If that's the issue, why not post an update?  I know I'd like to know about the change.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/JzrvhDgCSALCg/giphy.gif)

I know the paid forum for vendors has been floated as an idea.  Has that not been looked into?  It shouldn't be hard for people profiting off of GH to contribute some to maintaining it.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: jaffers on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:43:14
Ad in my sig is the only good ad on this site
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Moistgun on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:44:54
Maybe sell keyboard stuff. IDK
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: -musubi on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:47:25
literally just clicked this and thought wtf hahah
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:49:21
I know the paid forum for vendors has been floated as an idea.  Has that not been looked into?  It shouldn't be hard for people profiting off of GH to contribute some to maintaining it.
Yeah, this is probably a good idea on top of the >>Deals<< ..
actually now that it's iMav putting it on, I welcome it!  :thumb: :p
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:53:15
rip. Time to make my own geekhack clone
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 01 June 2016, 21:53:36
 :-\ Subscribed.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:02:41
I scrolled to the bottom of one of the pages to where it said "customer support", and my eyes automatically tracked upwards to the image immediately above the text.

I know it's a separate advertisement, but the placement is, perhaps, marginally less than ideal.

[attachimg=1]

:))
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:04:08
I JUST GOT IT SECURITY AND ETHICAL HACKING TRAINING FOR $90  :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: rainb1ood on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:08:28
not even good deals rip
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: ika on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:09:39
I JUST GOT IT SECURITY AND ETHICAL HACKING TRAINING FOR $90  :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:

when geekhack inevitably goes down in a few short hours, we know who to blame.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:12:32
I JUST GOT IT SECURITY AND ETHICAL HACKING TRAINING FOR $90  :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:

when geekhack inevitably goes down in a few short hours, we know who to blame.

But I don't think that would be ethical because people would notice? I'm sure ethical hacking means just get good enough at it that nobody knows you hacked them  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:15:44
If you are going to sell out at least do it right... ffs

why use this bs called https://stackcommerce.com/

just get partnered with amazon and do it right....
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: rainb1ood on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:26:28
[IC] GMK > > DEALS < < Enter keycap
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: rm-rf on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:28:01
(http://i.imgur.com/jK3O23O.gif)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:31:03
RIP GH running out of money.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:31:46
#MakeGHGreatAgain2016
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Snowdog993 on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:33:20
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/pdubA/a08c1996d2.png)


It's okay demik.  I just ignore it.  One of those things that keep GH running.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:35:51
If that's the issue, why not post an update?  I know I'd like to know about the change.

Show Image
(https://media.giphy.com/media/JzrvhDgCSALCg/giphy.gif)


I know the paid forum for vendors has been floated as an idea.  Has that not been looked into?  It shouldn't be hard for people profiting off of GH to contribute some to maintaining it.
But for real, this.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:44:37
ITS GONE GUYS! WE DID IT REDDIT

(http://i.imgur.com/3RxoQHB.png)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:00:49
(http://puu.sh/pdzvQ/39ec5da913.png)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:04:09
I know the paid forum for vendors has been floated as an idea.  Has that not been looked into?  It shouldn't be hard for people profiting off of GH to contribute some to maintaining it.
Definitely agree to this idea. Was thinking the same thing since alot of vendors are using GH to get buyers.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:05:42
ITS GONE GUYS! WE DID IT REDDIT

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3RxoQHB.png)


can confirm

(http://puu.sh/pdzLc/6dbfe42169.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:08:07
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Hak Foo on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:11:09
If that's the issue, why not post an update?  I know I'd like to know about the change.

A good number of us have at least some time in the IT trenches, enough when a surprise advertisement pops up in a familiar site, our first reponse is "Damn it, there's malware or the site's been hacked."
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:14:29
Guys, the problem has been lifted and there is now a much more useful tool in its place.
(http://i.imgur.com/c4Dxu4J.png)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:19:15
(http://i.imgur.com/Sfbl1cO.png)

God damn commies, man. I blame trenzafeeds.

Realtalk : can we get the >> << removed at least. I keep thinking it's something important and end up clicking it instinctively.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:20:01
Guys, the problem has been lifted and there is now a much more useful tool in its place.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/c4Dxu4J.png)


this gave me a good chuckle.  :))
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:26:28
(http://puu.sh/pdALQ/d46dfab471.jpg)

i got dirt on all y'all
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:27:24
FWIW my comment was a joke. I get GH needs money, and if I could get these deals in the UK then I would definitely go through GH to get them.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: madhias on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:33:58
Ok, I get it now. I was really confused and clicked through the offers there. And I was not sure, if real or fake.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:40:37
ITS GONE GUYS! WE DID IT REDDIT

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3RxoQHB.png)


can confirm

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/pdzLc/6dbfe42169.jpg)



Ugh.  I'm still seeing it  :(
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:46:55
ITS GONE GUYS! WE DID IT REDDIT

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3RxoQHB.png)


can confirm

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/pdzLc/6dbfe42169.jpg)



Ugh.  I'm still seeing it  :(

they were joking  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:47:59
ITS GONE GUYS! WE DID IT REDDIT

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3RxoQHB.png)


can confirm

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/pdzLc/6dbfe42169.jpg)



Ugh.  I'm still seeing it  :(

they were joking  :rolleyes:

LoL.  Yeah, I figured it out after I looked at demik's screenshot a little closer  :))
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 02 June 2016, 00:03:34
Here is a concept for the new and improved face of Geekhack!
(http://i.imgur.com/qBLU18d.png)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Dongulator on Thu, 02 June 2016, 00:13:12
woops thought this was off topic!!  ^-^
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 02 June 2016, 00:18:13
Seriously, that car lock thing looks awesome.

I actually don't see what the big deal is. The >><< is a bit weird, but we are very lucky not having to pay for anything at all.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Glenmael on Thu, 02 June 2016, 00:22:41
Gotta stay afloat somehow!

~use Tampermonkey if you really want~
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 02 June 2016, 00:39:01
Here is a concept for the new and improved face of Geekhack!
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/qBLU18d.png)


I lol'd
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: calavera on Thu, 02 June 2016, 01:03:15
I thought it was some kind of special group buy or something and clicked only to be disappointed.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: fknraiden on Thu, 02 June 2016, 01:13:20
Can we atleast move it somewhere else? more specifically away from the Spy.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: suicidal_orange on Thu, 02 June 2016, 02:35:17
Can we atleast move it somewhere else? more specifically away from the Spy.

I like it where it is - I'd rather hit that than logout when my fat thumbs miss on mobile :))
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 02 June 2016, 02:37:38
Can we atleast move it somewhere else? more specifically away from the Spy.

I like it where it is - I'd rather hit that than logout when my fat thumbs miss on mobile :))

No.
I'd rather log out than hit that.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 02 June 2016, 02:47:05
Looks good to me. :D
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: nmur on Thu, 02 June 2016, 02:47:57
ITT: 1337 js/css wizards
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: chyros on Thu, 02 June 2016, 03:41:37
DEELS ERMAGHERD TAKE ME TO THEM
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: PunksDead on Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:01:53
RIP I'm already tired of fat fingering trying to spy
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: henz on Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:13:23
when i woke up this morning, i was like omg omg omg new button, then i clicked it....
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: beehatch on Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:40:09
How about get rid of the ****ing >>>>>>>>><<<<<< its not going to make me click it anymore than usual

Just say GH Store (but its not really) or something like that, not ****ing DEALS. it looks fake as ****, in fact when clicked upon that place looks sketchy

New idea: Reword to Ad Deals and place it right next to IRC or Donate-- ya know the other links people don't use either ayylmao
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:50:25
I'm with bee on this. That >>> <<<< is distracting and just screams click me!

Oh, maybe that's the whole point.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: joey on Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:51:07
Pay 5$ to have it removed? :thumb:
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: beehatch on Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:54:33
I'm with bee on this. That >>> <<<< is distracting and just screams click me!

Oh, maybe that's the whole point.

that's exactly why ><  are there, except in this case its having the opposite effect. It literally looks like an AD link, why the **** would anyone click it?

but we are stupid af so who cares what the peasants think
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: invariance on Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:55:52
Pay 5$ to have it removed? :thumb:

Give me your 5$ and then ignore it.   :))

(Only because the AUD has turned to ****)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:11:36
Imagine if you had sat down at some point and actually had proper ways people can support this forum, instead of telling people to **** off for years and then rushing to put together this half arsed garbage with worthless subscriptions no one wants?
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:15:54
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: yomammary on Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:27:07
If they asked me for money to keep GH going I would gladly help out.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: beehatch on Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:36:42
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff

lmao no one is saying GH needing money is a bad thing. the way it's being done is pretty atrocious and frankly, I think it ruins that navigational bar because its hideous and >>STUPID<<.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:37:48
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff

lmao no one is saying GH needing money is a bad thing. the way it's being done is pretty atrocious and frankly, I think it ruins that navigational bar because its hideous and >>STUPID<<.
Better than banner ads though

Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: beehatch on Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:42:55
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff

lmao no one is saying GH needing money is a bad thing. the way it's being done is pretty atrocious and frankly, I think it ruins that navigational bar because its hideous and >>STUPID<<.
Better than banner ads though

I can at least block those.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 02 June 2016, 08:40:20
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff

lmao no one is saying GH needing money is a bad thing. the way it's being done is pretty atrocious and frankly, I think it ruins that navigational bar because its hideous and >>STUPID<<.
Better than banner ads though

I can at least block those.
Another forum I frequent is asking the members not to block ads because they are not paid when ads are not served. It'd be back to square one.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 June 2016, 09:21:56
As someone who has been paying monthly since the server moved, I'm disappointed. Both in who is or isn't donating and this sudden change.

I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. And it would be great to see more advertising that geekhack needs money to keep going. Deskthority had a good approach with the club, I like the idea of paid vendor forums, and the sponsored buying stuff isn't bad. It's the execution in this case. I don't like this deals tab because it seems really chincy and weak. The stuff being sold in there seems analogous to snake oil vendors. Plus the huge >><<< is annoying.

Doing a driveby and just throwing the tab in really sucks because we don't have any say in this community we're in and some of us have been paying. Plus I've heard that not all the stuff that was sold in the previous fund drive thread were actually sent out. It's hard to get people to give money if you promised to give them stickers which never showed up.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: need on Thu, 02 June 2016, 09:31:33
This is not gonna work, after a while no one will ever click on it.
You'll need pop up ads at some point, which I prefer.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 02 June 2016, 09:43:38
As someone who has been paying monthly since the server moved, I'm disappointed. Both in who is or isn't donating and this sudden change.

I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. And it would be great to see more advertising that geekhack needs money to keep going. Deskthority had a good approach with the club, I like the idea of paid vendor forums, and the sponsored buying stuff isn't bad. It's the execution in this case. I don't like this deals tab because it seems really chincy and weak. The stuff being sold in there seems analogous to snake oil vendors. Plus the huge >><<< is annoying.

Doing a driveby and just throwing the tab in really sucks because we don't have any say in this community we're in and some of us have been paying. Plus I've heard that not all the stuff that was sold in the previous fund drive thread were actually sent out. It's hard to get people to give money if you promised to give them stickers which never showed up.

+1 to all of this.  I was well aware that funding was an issue, as most people stopped donating soon after the last fundraising push, but this button is news to me.  There must be a better/cleaner way.  And as annoying as it is, maybe we just need to have the fund requirements in everyone's face (notices from geekhack, not ads) to prompt people to pay.  Out of site out of mind, I'm sure everyone simply forgot about it.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 02 June 2016, 09:54:54
As someone who has been paying monthly since the server moved, I'm disappointed. Both in who is or isn't donating and this sudden change.

I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. And it would be great to see more advertising that geekhack needs money to keep going. Deskthority had a good approach with the club, I like the idea of paid vendor forums, and the sponsored buying stuff isn't bad. It's the execution in this case. I don't like this deals tab because it seems really chincy and weak. The stuff being sold in there seems analogous to snake oil vendors. Plus the huge >><<< is annoying.

Doing a driveby and just throwing the tab in really sucks because we don't have any say in this community we're in and some of us have been paying. Plus I've heard that not all the stuff that was sold in the previous fund drive thread were actually sent out. It's hard to get people to give money if you promised to give them stickers which never showed up.

If it works the way i think it works, I would purchase all my amazon purchases through a geekhack link. even if thats in addition to the >>>Deals<<<
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:14:12
Same, I'd totally do the Amazon referral thing if it was available.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:21:15
As much as I respect iMav as the master of this domain, I personally think he made an error in judgement when implementing this. There are much more effective ways of asking for funding. This is a forum, he could have at least asked for public opinion first and then built a solution based on suggestions.

You're never going to please everyone, but at least try to please the majority.

Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: iMav on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:22:53
rip. Time to make my own geekhack clone

It's been tried numerous times.  Knock yourself out.

If they asked me for money to keep GH going I would gladly help out.

Please use the "Donate" link to support us financially!

This is not gonna work, after a while no one will ever click on it.
You'll need pop up ads at some point, which I prefer.

There is a plan to add some ads to the footer of the site.  However, I have cringed at every iteration so far...so it is on hold.


I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. 
If it works the way i think it works, I would purchase all my amazon purchases through a geekhack link. even if thats in addition to the >>>Deals<<<

We actually DO currently participate in an affiliate program.  If you click an Amazon link (or eBay, or many others) from GH, we will get some kick back if you make a purchase.

Geekhack is halfway through its NINETH year of operation.  We have gone through a lot of crap to stay around.  While I may not be as involved in the day-to-day community as I once was, I am just as intimately involved in the backend as I always way (and my wallet funds the majority of the infrastructure to this day).  I very much appreciate the monthly donations that dedicated GHers contribute.  I also appreciate those that contribute a percentage of group buy sales (it's the exception, not the rule...but I am always very happy to see when folks realize that GH does require funding.)

Again, you have a problem, you can talk with me directly. 
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:23:12
Same, I'd totally do the Amazon referral thing if it was available.

I order stuff from Amazon for the office I work at pretty frequently, I would definitely run it through GH if possible.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Bigpock on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:25:09
(http://i.imgur.com/wSNL8Hi.gif)

lolbigpockhere lets do a jig
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:30:43
So my understanding is that if I click a link that user Waateva posts linking to amazon, purchase an item, geekhack gets kickback.

Is this the case?

Is it possible to have a simple Amazon link on the Geekhack landing page, and that can be my portal to amazon.

I dont always want to buy the **** you bubs are posting. But I certainly buy a bunch of crap.


Also, can this thread be renamed to "what is this bologna"?
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:54:36
Give me a paid sub forum at the least.
It would be like my quiet place where people don't want to be banned and lose money.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:27:18
As someone who has been paying monthly since the server moved, I'm disappointed. Both in who is or isn't donating and this sudden change.

I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. And it would be great to see more advertising that geekhack needs money to keep going. Deskthority had a good approach with the club, I like the idea of paid vendor forums, and the sponsored buying stuff isn't bad. It's the execution in this case. I don't like this deals tab because it seems really chincy and weak. The stuff being sold in there seems analogous to snake oil vendors. Plus the huge >><<< is annoying.

Doing a driveby and just throwing the tab in really sucks because we don't have any say in this community we're in and some of us have been paying. Plus I've heard that not all the stuff that was sold in the previous fund drive thread were actually sent out. It's hard to get people to give money if you promised to give them stickers which never showed up.


+1 to all of this.  I was well aware that funding was an issue, as most people stopped donating soon after the last fundraising push, but this button is news to me.  There must be a better/cleaner way.  And as annoying as it is, maybe we just need to have the fund requirements in everyone's face (notices from geekhack, not ads) to prompt people to pay.  Out of site out of mind, I'm sure everyone simply forgot about it.

Absolutely agree with CPT. For starters, charging vendors monthly and having a paid club like DT both sound like fine ideas. Still I'm not even sure how the paid forum would work here, the main part of the DT club is that you also have voting rights in forum direction, which i don't see happening here. But I do agree that people donating monthly should see some form of return from it, which also encourages them to keep on donating each month.

I mean, the whole >>DEALS<< tab and everything inside of it, on a site full of computer nerds, is rather...silly. I can't possibly imagine that being much of a source of income at all.

And yeah, most of us have no idea how much it cost a month. If we all knew and it was out in the open that would definitely encourage people to give more i think.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:31:05
And yeah, most of us have no idea how much it cost a month. If we all knew and it was out in the open that would definitely encourage people to give more i think.

^^ This. I totally get some things need to be kept private but a little transparency goes a long way.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:39:08
A GeekHack store could also be started with official GH merch, also like DT has.

GH branded Mugs, and mouse pads, and shirts could be sold....
(http://i.imgur.com/NUITe89.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: 1swt2gs on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:41:01
It stood out like a sore thumb
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:52:59
And yeah, most of us have no idea how much it cost a month. If we all knew and it was out in the open that would definitely encourage people to give more i think.

This is what iMav posted about this before (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73331.msg1793194#msg1793194). I believe there's some costs missing though.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: jaffers on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:55:59
I'm going to kil myself
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:57:58
I'm going to kil myself

DONT I NEED YOU


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Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:58:57
I'm going to kil myself

You're moving to sweden??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kil
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:00:48
Jaffers is drunk and raging on the geekhack slack  :(

someone give the guy a hug.
 :D
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:02:44
I see the Amazon referral thing being brought up. Just curious what's the number for doing the affiliate program through Amazon?

 Let's say someone used the referral and bought a keyboard for $129.00.

How much of that goes back into GH? Anyone have a link to the actual formula/numbers?
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:06:44
iMav where is the transparency?

How much money do you need to run this thing?

Pretty sure if you need at least $5 from every dedicated member you could run this web**** without the half assed advertisement. Just go full out header ad or don't do **** at all.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: yomammary on Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:10:35
If they asked me for money to keep GH going I would gladly help out.

Please use the "Donate" link to support us financially!
Done!
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:18:08
A GeekHack store could also be started with official GH merch, also like DT has.

GH branded Mugs, and mouse pads, and shirts could be sold....
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NUITe89.jpg)


this works. stop making ctrl alt make those stickers or imav just give them domain privileges
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: iMav on Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:21:16
I mean, the whole >>DEALS<< tab and everything inside of it, on a site full of computer nerds, is rather...silly. I can't possibly imagine that being much of a source of income at all.

As an FYI, the link has been active for only a few hours...and has already netted over $20.  You underestimate the breath of folks that visit GH on a regular basis. 
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Michael on Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:58:28
I think there are far more things you could do that shows you care about the community, rather than a bunch of stuff people could most likely care less about. These aren't incredible 'deals', really.

Showing you care about (and are in touch with) the community means doing something that speaks to their interests more, such as;

1. Running 'GEEK HA CK' SP key packs again
2. Geekhack-related/themed stuff (keyboard sleeves, wrist rests, keycap pullers, etc)
3. Put together a keyboard + gh themed extras, on a monthly basis

I am just throwing a few ideas out there - but the bottom line is, this 'deals' clickbait is a rather thoughtless way of asking for money from the community. If you know this community, you know they
keep money for things that pertain to their hobby - keycap sets, keyboards, etc.

And in all honesty, the community should be run by people who are in-touch with and passionate about the community they are a part of.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 02 June 2016, 13:05:47
Perhaps people that donate can have an option for it not to show.  Though it does seem fairly unobtrusive. 

And I do have to say that the donating bit is pretty hidden.  I'd donate- and see it as a responsibility to help out the sites that you visit regularly, and rather that it's an ask rather than a requirement.  But when you don't really advertise it anywhere, it's difficult at the least to even know how to contribute.

As to the other ideas, it would seem to take the onus off of a few people if everyone would contribute to making them happen.  Unlike a button at the top, any other ideas take time and effort, and putting that on few people seems to be an imposition, no matter how much they might be passionate about the community.

I've seen it recently with MrBishop and Evangs- as far as organizing a build and GB or auction to benefit the community.  You can't just say words or toss around ideas- you have to put action to them, IMO, and be the change that you want to see.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 02 June 2016, 13:10:55
I think there are far more things you could do that shows you care about the community, rather than a bunch of stuff people could most likely care less about. These aren't incredible 'deals', really.

Showing you care about (and are in touch with) the community means doing something that speaks to their interests more, such as;

1. Running 'GEEK HA CK' SP key packs again
2. Geekhack-related/themed stuff (keyboard sleeves, wrist rests, keycap pullers, etc)
3. Put together a keyboard + gh themed extras, on a monthly basis

I am just throwing a few ideas out there - but the bottom line is, this 'deals' clickbait is a rather thoughtless way of asking for money from the community. If you know this community, you know they
keep money for things that pertain to their hobby - keycap sets, keyboards, etc.

And in all honesty, the community should be run by people who are in-touch with and passionate about the community they are a part of.

quoting for maximum exposure

I would still like a gh themed store
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: beehatch on Thu, 02 June 2016, 13:16:02
I think there are far more things you could do that shows you care about the community, rather than a bunch of stuff people could most likely care less about. These aren't incredible 'deals', really.

Showing you care about (and are in touch with) the community means doing something that speaks to their interests more, such as;

1. Running 'GEEK HA CK' SP key packs again
2. Geekhack-related/themed stuff (keyboard sleeves, wrist rests, keycap pullers, etc)
3. Put together a keyboard + gh themed extras, on a monthly basis

I am just throwing a few ideas out there - but the bottom line is, this 'deals' clickbait is a rather thoughtless way of asking for money from the community. If you know this community, you know they
keep money for things that pertain to their hobby - keycap sets, keyboards, etc.

And in all honesty, the community should be run by people who are in-touch with and passionate about the community they are a part of.

quoting for maximum exposure

I would still like a gh themed store

agreed yo
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 02 June 2016, 13:56:04
Question: who the hell is going to do the work of running group buys and a merchandise store?
There is a huge difference in the work required between running ads and running a store.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 02 June 2016, 14:14:54
Question: who the hell is going to do the work of running group buys and a merchandise store?
There is a huge difference in the work required between running ads and running a store.

This. While it's also something I'd love to see, that would require having one more hand in the pot organizing and tracking stock, shipping, and not to mention getting paid. I don't know about the rest of you, but i already work 40 hours a week, and the small amount of free time i do have, os spent trying to enjoy time with either family or on here. As much as i would love to offer to run a store, there's no way i or anybody in their right mind would without getting paid.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 02 June 2016, 14:16:14
Question: who the hell is going to do the work of running group buys and a merchandise store?
There is a huge difference in the work required between running ads and running a store.

DT uses Redbubble.  http://www.redbubble.com/about/selling

"We coordinate everything from printing and shipping through to ongoing customer service, giving you more time to focus on creating great art and design (and occasionally watching cat videos on the internet)."

So you could just have people make GH graphics and donate those, donate their own vendor graphics if they want to do that to support GH, etc. It could be a really cool thing for the community.

Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: beehatch on Thu, 02 June 2016, 14:18:53
(http://puu.sh/pelwf/9e7639a91e.png)

SO CLOSE

you got rid of the spaces, just get rid of the >> << now
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: abjr on Thu, 02 June 2016, 15:13:54
iMav where is the transparency?

How much money do you need to run this thing?

Pretty sure if you need at least $5 from every dedicated member you could run this web**** without the half assed advertisement. Just go full out header ad or don't do **** at all.

 Looks like roughly $440/month: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73331.msg1796270#msg1796270
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: kiwi99 on Thu, 02 June 2016, 15:14:38
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/pelwf/9e7639a91e.png)


SO CLOSE

you got rid of the spaces, just get rid of the >> << now

how will I know where to click without the arrows tho
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 02 June 2016, 15:19:30
I see the Amazon referral thing being brought up. Just curious what's the number for doing the affiliate program through Amazon?

 Let's say someone used the referral and bought a keyboard for $129.00.

How much of that goes back into GH? Anyone have a link to the actual formula/numbers?
I'd like to know this as well.

Anyways if no one want's to run a geekhack store then just put amazon ads on here. I don't mind amazon I'd sell my soul to them tbh. Amazon if you read this pls hire me
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Venatorious on Thu, 02 June 2016, 21:38:33
I actually thought I had malware or something on my computer when I saw this.

It doesn't go at all together with the site.  Why?

The all caps and meme arrows just make it worse.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 02 June 2016, 21:49:53
If it wasn't for the arrows, would anyone have even noticed it?

Like, I didn't even know where the logout button was until I looked at the DEALS button...
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 02 June 2016, 21:59:12
i dont mind the deals link in the header but i think the cost for maintenance of the site can be easily achieved by having a dedicated thread for monthly cost and where to donate. there are a couple of times where gh did a donation drive for someone, whatelse for the platform they use to do/advestise those drives.

i think that would be the easiest and lesser work for iMav since mods can help update the info in that thread and just for imav to check if the target has been achieved.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 June 2016, 22:20:39
i dont mind the deals link in the header but i think the cost for maintenance of the site can be easily achieved by having a dedicated thread for monthly cost and where to donate. there are a couple of times where gh did a donation drive for someone, whatelse for the platform they use to do/advestise those drives.

i think that would be the easiest and lesser work for iMav since mods can help update the info in that thread and just for imav to check if the target has been achieved.

There is one thread that I made (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73331.0). For some reason, there hasn't been any official thread or anything from the mods, admins, or iMav. Which is why it's buried in Off-Topic stickied thread hell.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 02 June 2016, 22:24:46
i dont mind the deals link in the header but i think the cost for maintenance of the site can be easily achieved by having a dedicated thread for monthly cost and where to donate. there are a couple of times where gh did a donation drive for someone, whatelse for the platform they use to do/advestise those drives.

i think that would be the easiest and lesser work for iMav since mods can help update the info in that thread and just for imav to check if the target has been achieved.

There is one thread that I made (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73331.0). For some reason, there hasn't been any official thread or anything from the mods, admins, or iMav. Which is why it's buried in Off-Topic stickied thread hell.

TBH, when that thread was made, we all agreed that it made the point very clear and that's why it was stickied. Not sure why it was never moved from OT to something like Site Announcements and why the team never created one on our own. I'll bring it up.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 02 June 2016, 22:43:36
If it wasn't for the arrows, would anyone have even noticed it?

Like, I didn't even know where the logout button was until I looked at the DEALS button...

This.  So much this.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 02 June 2016, 23:08:12
i dont mind the deals link in the header but i think the cost for maintenance of the site can be easily achieved by having a dedicated thread for monthly cost and where to donate. there are a couple of times where gh did a donation drive for someone, whatelse for the platform they use to do/advestise those drives.

i think that would be the easiest and lesser work for iMav since mods can help update the info in that thread and just for imav to check if the target has been achieved.

There is one thread that I made (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73331.0). For some reason, there hasn't been any official thread or anything from the mods, admins, or iMav. Which is why it's buried in Off-Topic stickied thread hell.

sounds about par for the course.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 03 June 2016, 02:00:43
Regarding the store, there are numerous keyboard specific outlets, why not use one/couple of them who stock exclusive GH merchandise like keycaps, tees, stickers, posters, etc. GH can then get a commission from those sales. There's plenty of enthusiastic members here to come up with at the very least one item every month. Members can make geekhack branded goods (Doesn't have to super flashy and always showing off the geekhack name, just something that GH will have rights to control sales) which the mods/admins/iMav will then give the go ahead and co-ordinate with their sales partner.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: ThoughtArtist on Sat, 04 June 2016, 21:54:44
Keyboard covers, keyboard covers...
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 04 June 2016, 23:06:29
IMAV SAY SOMETHING
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: byker on Sat, 04 June 2016, 23:11:59
i dont mind the deals link in the header but i think the cost for maintenance of the site can be easily achieved by having a dedicated thread for monthly cost and where to donate. there are a couple of times where gh did a donation drive for someone, whatelse for the platform they use to do/advestise those drives.

i think that would be the easiest and lesser work for iMav since mods can help update the info in that thread and just for imav to check if the target has been achieved.

There is one thread that I made (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73331.0). For some reason, there hasn't been any official thread or anything from the mods, admins, or iMav. Which is why it's buried in Off-Topic stickied thread hell.

sounds about par for the course.  :rolleyes:

The mods aren't involved in the admin side of the forum, we had no heads up about this deals thing either
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 04 June 2016, 23:23:52
IMAV SAY SOMETHING

Again, you have a problem, you can talk with me directly. 

Not sure what else you want him to say??
Title: Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 04 June 2016, 23:27:29
IMAV SAY SOMETHING

Again, you have a problem, you can talk with me directly. 

Not sure what else you want him to say??
why does it have to be through pm? just come discuss it here in the open