Can you guys mute tp again? Gh was sane for a couple days
They all have a weak spot. Just sayinCan you guys mute tp again? Gh was sane for a couple days
I'm just saying..
Even if we assume the alien ship is Air tight, which it wouldn't be... it'd be like filling a giant balloon with 1 more drop of air..
that really wouldn't do anything, and certainly not burst it.
Who says their fuel would have to be combustible? :p
That movie is craptastic anyway, the plot not making any sense is the least of its worries :p .
Who says their fuel would have to be combustible? :p
Ye, that's also important...
It just seems so unlikely that the alien ship would be so poorly constructed where one area blows up, the WHOLE THING blows up..
This is simply an observation based on its size..
Think about it another way, To travel through space, you would need warp engines that either matches or exceeds the speed of light.. Because if you didn't, why bother going anywhere, just stay home and grow food....
It's like if your only mode of transport is on the back of turtles, foggettabouit.
---- This is a valid comparison given the vast distances in space between any objects.
---- Sublight engine is a no go..
So, This giant ship, has to be rigid enough to be accelerated and decelerated at those speeds.. The construction material must be an order of magnitude more inert than matter-composites..
It has to be something like neutron star matter..
You can blow nukes at it all day, a nanometer coating of that stuff can withstand any current human weapon including nukes..
So, if the aliens has this material, they would surely build core-containment with it.... (the core being likely a miniature black hole)..
And... if we breached containment around even a miniature black hole so close to earth.. Good bye solar system..
^^^ All good points..
However.. You need lots of power to move fast.. Especially so, if the object is massive.. Massive objects NEED to be rigid, other wise they can't be accelerated or decelerated..
If you're saying that the rigidity is a function of this material's interaction with the reactor's energy...
Ok, that's also possible.. But SOME WHERE along this pipeline, multi-dimensional or not.. is a Containment system around the reaction chamber..
That system must be pretty bullet proof.. which is why it seems quite unlikely that at the scale we're talking about, is that mechanism could be breached by mere nukes..
To move that much mass at the speed of light would mean trillions of nukes..
Something which could contain and channel that much energy certainly can't be taken out by nukes..
^^^ All good points..
However.. You need lots of power to move fast.. Especially so, if the object is massive.. Massive objects NEED to be rigid, other wise they can't be accelerated or decelerated..
If you're saying that the rigidity is a function of this material's interaction with the reactor's energy...
Ok, that's also possible.. But SOME WHERE along this pipeline, multi-dimensional or not.. is a Containment system around the reaction chamber..
That system must be pretty bullet proof.. which is why it seems quite unlikely that at the scale we're talking about, is that mechanism could be breached by mere nukes..
To move that much mass at the speed of light would mean trillions of nukes..
Something which could contain and channel that much energy certainly can't be taken out by nukes..
I think this is more a problem we face at the moment with our current limitations of technology and understanding, the technology and knowledge of these beings would be millions of years ahead of ours. If you think of a warp drive, you think of the craft being inside some sort of bubble with the time-space bending around it, that allows the craft to "move" faster then light but it actually doesn't, and therefore don't have to face these kinds of problems that would go with it. There are better explanations out there, I'm no expert, but I think its the same principle with these crafts. Besides, if they would "simply" teleport, they wouldn't even need to accelerate to the speed of light in the first place, there wouldn't be any "speed" to speak of. I don't know where they get the energy from, perhaps they just suck it out of time-space. There is a pretty much unlimited amount of energy all around us, and that's not even taking access to multiple dimensions into consideration. I don't know for a fact how they do it, but I do know that their crafts are not very tough. But then again, there is more then just one type of craft and more then just one species whish builds them out there. There are so many different shapes and proposes that go with it for them. For example, the cigar shaped craft whish we see most often in our sky's, are I THINK mostly intended for atmospheric flight, or interplanetary at best (there are OF CAUSE exceptions), while saucer shaped crafts often serve interstellar or inter-dimensional proposes. Them crashing is a very, very rare occasion, but if they do, its usually the saucer type crafts whish crash, since these are not specifically designed and adapted to our environment and planet. They are designed on their home planets, whish are very often completely environmentally controlled, not so untamed and "wild" like earth is.
..so is this the resident crazy person every forum has?
..so is this the resident crazy person every forum has?
..so is this the resident crazy person every forum has?
Yes.
Also..the atmosphere has a very long reach, yes this would damage it more than usual but it wouldn't destroy the entire atmosphere, the use of hairspray has done more damage than the mothership ever would
Wouldn't something so explosively powerful happening so close to earth blow away our atmosphere, thus killing life on the planet..
See, silly humans not thinking things through..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/lol1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862512)
Also..the atmosphere has a very long reach, yes this would damage it more than usual but it wouldn't destroy the entire atmosphere, the use of hairspray has done more damage than the mothership ever would
Wouldn't something so explosively powerful happening so close to earth blow away our atmosphere, thus killing life on the planet..
See, silly humans not thinking things through..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/lol1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862512)
Hrrrmmm...wouldnt they need to understand english to understand when they decrypt it?
The humans used morse code to coordinate the alien counter attack..
Wouldn'tttt the alien decrypt that instantly, and know exactly what we're up to.
I mean.. there's no encoding whatsoever..
Hrrrmmm...wouldnt they need to understand english to understand when they decrypt it?
The humans used morse code to coordinate the alien counter attack..
Wouldn'tttt the alien decrypt that instantly, and know exactly what we're up to.
I mean.. there's no encoding whatsoever..
all depends.Hrrrmmm...wouldnt they need to understand english to understand when they decrypt it?
The humans used morse code to coordinate the alien counter attack..
Wouldn'tttt the alien decrypt that instantly, and know exactly what we're up to.
I mean.. there's no encoding whatsoever..
In the beginning of the movie, they alluded to the fact that the early captured ships were spy ships/scout ships..
But overall, if you'd invade a planet, you'd at least learn about the enemy first..
There's gotta be some protocol for intelligence gathering..
Which would certainly involve language conversion..
Plus... if WE have google translate... Surely they got Alien Translate... and assuming they're more advanced than we are.. Their AI could probably program the whole thing automatically without manual involvement.
Also..the atmosphere has a very long reach, yes this would damage it more than usual but it wouldn't destroy the entire atmosphere, the use of hairspray has done more damage than the mothership ever would
Wouldn't something so explosively powerful happening so close to earth blow away our atmosphere, thus killing life on the planet..
See, silly humans not thinking things through..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/lol1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862512)
The shockwave of something 6% the mass of the earth exploding at the same place as the moon..
pretty sure the atmosphere's gone.. if not all the water too,..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/dreaming-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862500)
The US detonated 3 nuclear missiles over the north pole not many decades ago, they got taken out mid flight before they could reach their target by "someone".
The US detonated 3 nuclear missiles over the north pole not many decades ago, they got taken out mid flight before they could reach their target by "someone".
Uhhhhh....
The US government suspected German military bases on and under the north pole after WW2. That suspicion was back up by several militarily operations in that area. Their target was where they suspected these basses to be. The 3 missiles where not lunched simultaneously, they never reached their target. I suspect the Germans not being the ones who took out the missiles themselves.
Uhhhhh....
The US government suspected German military bases on and under the north pole after WW2. That suspicion was back up by several militarily operations in that area. Their target was where they suspected these basses to be. The 3 missiles where not lunched simultaneously, they never reached their target. I suspect the Germans not being the ones who took out the missiles themselves.Uhhhhh....
I thought tp was our resident conspiracy theorist. But apparently not.
Will Smith's fist weakened the mothership's defense system; obviously.
Will Smith's fist weakened the mothership's defense system; obviously.
Many of these crafts, especially the ones intended for interstellar and inter dimensional travel also feature a multidimensional layout and design. The way they work is not comparable to anything we know. It would be like describing a modern smartphone to somebody living in the middle ages. These ships "live", they are intelligent. Their "systems" are a living, breathing consciousness. They have a "soul". They are not like any machines as we make them. Our technology is "dead". It is not possible to simply "hack" into these ships. They are managed by "computers" who wok on multiple levels, they are more then just a computer. These beings connect telepathically to these ships.
like the Tardis form Doctor Who,
Will Smith's fist weakened the mothership's defense system; obviously.
Many of these crafts, especially the ones intended for interstellar and inter dimensional travel also feature a multidimensional layout and design. The way they work is not comparable to anything we know. It would be like describing a modern smartphone to somebody living in the middle ages. These ships "live", they are intelligent. Their "systems" are a living, breathing consciousness. They have a "soul". They are not like any machines as we make them. Our technology is "dead". It is not possible to simply "hack" into these ships. They are managed by "computers" who wok on multiple levels, they are more then just a computer. These beings connect telepathically to these ships.
You missed the point of what I said. Will Smith damaged the extra-terrestrial psyches that were connected to the ET that Will Smith punched in the face. He literally weakened the mothership from within with one punch because the mothership is connected to all the ETs that Will smith effected. C'mon.
Will Smith's fist weakened the mothership's defense system; obviously.
Many of these crafts, especially the ones intended for interstellar and inter dimensional travel also feature a multidimensional layout and design. The way they work is not comparable to anything we know. It would be like describing a modern smartphone to somebody living in the middle ages. These ships "live", they are intelligent. Their "systems" are a living, breathing consciousness. They have a "soul". They are not like any machines as we make them. Our technology is "dead". It is not possible to simply "hack" into these ships. They are managed by "computers" who wok on multiple levels, they are more then just a computer. These beings connect telepathically to these ships.
You missed the point of what I said. Will Smith damaged the extra-terrestrial psyches that were connected to the ET that Will Smith punched in the face. He literally weakened the mothership from within with one punch because the mothership is connected to all the ETs that Will smith effected. C'mon.
The ships "defensive system" would not allow access in the first place, not only physically with a force field or something, but they would literally block opportunity's from opening up for you to "attack" in any way. It is also very easy to manipulate humans mentally. There is no way something like that could ever realistically happen. Also aliens would never attack like that, it dosan't many any sense. The way we fight wars is very, very primitive. They don't shoot lasers and drop bombs on each other. Aliens don't bomb anyone.
There was once a Medium who was channelling a alien being and one in the audience asked: "If they are so advanced they have better weapons right? What if they simple come and kill us?". The being replied: "we don't need weapons to kill you, we would simply need to show you the truth."
The ships "defensive system" would not allow access in the first place, not only physically with a force field or something, but they would literally block opportunity's from opening up for you to "attack" in any way. It is also very easy to manipulate humans mentally. There is no way something like that could ever realistically happen. Also aliens would never attack like that, it dosan't many any sense. The way we fight wars is very, very primitive. They don't shoot lasers and drop bombs on each other. Aliens don't bomb anyone.
There was once a Medium who was channelling a alien being and one in the audience asked: "If they are so advanced they have better weapons right? What if they simple come and kill us?". The being replied: "we don't need weapons to kill you, we would simply need to show you the truth."