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Title: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: daviswalkers on Mon, 06 June 2016, 12:06:25
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this or if there is a place for this on GH but if not feel free to delete my post.

So with the 1080 and 1070 coming out I've finally decided it's time to upgrade my PC, I've known it was coming for awhile after news the the AMD processor I have wasn't actually performing at the advertised rates, and that their whole "virtual core" was bs and so on and so forth but I've just been waiting until something big came along to motivate my pockets, and the 1070 happens to be that.

Here's my current setup:
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PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rVfJ7h) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rVfJ7h/by_merchant/)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hBCwrH/corsair-memory-cmd16gx3m2a1866c9)  ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/8bPfrH/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct128m4ssd2)  ($117.76 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex)  ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/cpw323/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd2002faex)  ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Black 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4nG3C/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd5001fzwx)  ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/mhfp99/sapphire-video-card-100351vxsr)
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/nPphP6/thermaltake-case-vn10006w2n)  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/PRW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-platinum1000)  ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xNmLrH/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas124-04)  ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus MX279H 27.0" Monitor (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/8VkD4D/asus-monitor-mx279h)  ($229.99 @ Micro Center)
Monitor: Asus MX279H 27.0" Monitor (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/8VkD4D/asus-monitor-mx279h)  ($229.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $1490.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-06 13:02 EDT-0400


I want to upgrade to a Intel CPU and the 1070 for a GPU, I realize that in doing so I'll also need up grade my Mobo, and likely my ram, I was thinking about trying out overclocking and as such am interested in the i5 6600k and the i7 6700k but after reading a few websites haven't been able to decide if the i7 is worth the extra money.  I primarily use the computer for high end gaming and some photoshop, but am likely going to invest in a VR (Vive) setup soon.  Here's what I came up with already but cant decide on what memory is best for me and am open to suggestions on all fronts!
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PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WwTwV) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WwTwV/by_merchant/)
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/gx648d/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600k)  ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/6V7CmG/asus-motherboard-z170pd3)  ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hBCwrH/corsair-memory-cmd16gx3m2a1866c9)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/8bPfrH/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct128m4ssd2)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/FrH48d/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/cpw323/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd2002faex)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Founders Edition Video Card  ($380.00)
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/nPphP6/thermaltake-case-vn10006w2n)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/PRW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-platinum1000)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xNmLrH/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas124-04)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Asus MX279H 27.0" Monitor (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/8VkD4D/asus-monitor-mx279h)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Asus MX279H 27.0" Monitor (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/8VkD4D/asus-monitor-mx279h)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $730.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-06 13:05 EDT-0400


And here's just the parts I don't own from the above list:
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PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WwTwV) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WwTwV/by_merchant/)
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/gx648d/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600k)  ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2)  (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/6V7CmG/asus-motherboard-z170pd3)  ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Founders Edition Video Card  ($380.00)
Total: $730.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-06 13:05 EDT-0400
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 06 June 2016, 12:30:58
Someone will give you a CM 212 EVO for free?
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: daviswalkers on Mon, 06 June 2016, 12:40:51
I marked that wrong that shouldn't be on the list, I already own one.
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: Angeldedespair on Mon, 06 June 2016, 16:33:33
The new gtx10 line looks very promising, especially for virtual reality! I'm not sure if it is enough of a power boost for normal gaming to consider upgrading from the 700 line, but it is very tempting!
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: gohono3 on Mon, 06 June 2016, 16:36:38
Based on the usage you described you should be just fine with the i5 6600k.  I'm still waiting for prices to come down, but another component to keep an eye on for future proofing is the PCI-E solid state drive.
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:10:42
wait for AMD cpu to at least come out..

If the IPC performance increase is as they say,  then depending on the price,  AMD might be a better deal..

DO NOT BUY NOW..
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 07 June 2016, 00:40:13
I recon that it will be at least six months before you will be able to buy an AMD Zen, and by then Kaby Lake is already out from Intel.
There is always new hardware on the horizon.

If I were to buy a new motherboard and CPU now, I would also buy new DDR4 memory. Otherwise you could be bottlenecked by your memory speed in some circumstances.
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 07 June 2016, 05:46:28
I recon that it will be at least six months before you will be able to buy an AMD Zen, and by then Kaby Lake is already out from Intel.
There is always new hardware on the horizon.

If I were to buy a new motherboard and CPU now, I would also buy new DDR4 memory. Otherwise you could be bottlenecked by your memory speed in some circumstances.


DDR3 is not bottle necked..  But it is not future proof..

We've only recently gotten the Better ddr4 3000+ speed memories.. everything from ddr4 2000-3400 is actually about the same as ddr3 2400 which we've had for a long long time.


So you want the highest ddr4 you can find..
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: daviswalkers on Tue, 07 June 2016, 11:56:58
Thanks for all the replies everyone, wish I had seen some of them earlier, however my micro center was having a sale and I ended up getting these parts:(Links are to newegg since Microcenter didn't have a few of them on their website and I bought all of them in-store prices reflect bundling deals)
Intel i5-6600k (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117561) $150
MSI Z170A LGA 1151 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130900) $70
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 3200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233859) $60
Still going back and forth between the 1080, and the 1070 however I think I'll likely go with the 1070 because from what I've heard it packs  a similar punch for a lot less but I'm waiting until 3rd party companies start selling and there are some more definitive bench marks.  Hopefully I didn't make any mistakes by rushing things :( !
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: daviswalkers on Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:00:11
Based on the usage you described you should be just fine with the i5 6600k.  I'm still waiting for prices to come down, but another component to keep an eye on for future proofing is the PCI-E solid state drive.

That sounds interesting I may have to look into it and see what the pro's are thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:43:39
wait for AMD cpu to at least come out..

Said no one ever
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:52:55
wait for AMD cpu to at least come out..

Said no one ever
:( I'm a AMD user and waiting for the new stuff

Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 07 June 2016, 13:30:24
wait for AMD cpu to at least come out..

Said no one ever
:( I'm a AMD user and waiting for the new stuff



AMD is very exciting this time around...

Gotta wait this one out..

You'd be sorry if you didn't...
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 07 June 2016, 13:39:54
Thanks for all the replies everyone, wish I had seen some of them earlier, however my micro center was having a sale and I ended up getting these parts:(Links are to newegg since Microcenter didn't have a few of them on their website and I bought all of them in-store prices reflect bundling deals)
Intel i5-6600k (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117561) $150
MSI Z170A LGA 1151 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130900) $70
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 3200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233859) $60
Still going back and forth between the 1080, and the 1070 however I think I'll likely go with the 1070 because from what I've heard it packs  a similar punch for a lot less but I'm waiting until 3rd party companies start selling and there are some more definitive bench marks.  Hopefully I didn't make any mistakes by rushing things :( !

I think you will be just fine.  Those parts are quite stout and will give you good performance for years to come. 

As far as the gpu, I would definitely wait for the 3rd party boards to come out and go for a 1070 depending on how it fares with the upcoming RX480.  This should not be an issue since you are waiting for the Non-Founders Ed. to come out anyways. I find it hard to spend double and get 10-20% or so more performance.  From what I have been reading, the overclocks that they are claiming may be voltage limited, so you might as well go with a cheaper 3rd party board that will have large quiet fans and a factory overclock and leave it be.  Your case is huge, so there is no issue with sizing. 
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 07 June 2016, 13:49:32
Thanks for all the replies everyone, wish I had seen some of them earlier, however my micro center was having a sale and I ended up getting these parts:(Links are to newegg since Microcenter didn't have a few of them on their website and I bought all of them in-store prices reflect bundling deals)
Intel i5-6600k (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117561) $150
MSI Z170A LGA 1151 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130900) $70
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 3200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233859) $60
Still going back and forth between the 1080, and the 1070 however I think I'll likely go with the 1070 because from what I've heard it packs  a similar punch for a lot less but I'm waiting until 3rd party companies start selling and there are some more definitive bench marks.  Hopefully I didn't make any mistakes by rushing things :( !

I think you will be just fine.  Those parts are quite stout and will give you good performance for years to come. 

As far as the gpu, I would definitely wait for the 3rd party boards to come out and go for a 1070 depending on how it fares with the upcoming RX480.  This should not be an issue since you are waiting for the Non-Founders Ed. to come out anyways. I find it hard to spend double and get 10-20% or so more performance.  From what I have been reading, the overclocks that they are claiming may be voltage limited, so you might as well go with a cheaper 3rd party board that will have large quiet fans and a factory overclock and leave it be.  Your case is huge, so there is no issue with sizing. 

rrrrmmm.....

Don't get 6600k.. get the 6700k

Also budget in the Delid tool kit.. makes 20Celcius difference for overclocking..
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: cmadrid on Sun, 12 June 2016, 12:54:54
You might actually want the 1080 if you plan on going for VR gaming
Title: Re: Help me update my PC for the 1070
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 June 2016, 00:34:01
vr is the suck...