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Title: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 15 June 2016, 15:52:34
People choose to live and visit there? Why? Literally everything I ever hear about Florida is negative.

Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 June 2016, 15:56:45
you should go on /r/floridaman sometime.

I do feel bad for the family, but that doesn't mean it isn't their fault. I'm just sorry that child had to be born to such stupid people.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 15 June 2016, 16:01:12

I do feel bad for the family, but that doesn't mean it isn't their fault. I'm just sorry that child had to be born to such stupid people.


you just contradicted yourself there

I don't think it was the parents fault either, two year olds are a handful for sure and of course he'd want to play by the water. And they ran in trying to get him back, not bad parents just a really rare and ****ty happening.

But my point on Florida still stands. First Grimmie's murder, then the biggest mass shooting in US history, now babies getting eaten by dinosaurs. Florida seems like Hell this week.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Bigpock on Wed, 15 June 2016, 16:02:00
(http://i.imgur.com/LxhGCus.jpg)
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 June 2016, 16:10:42

I do feel bad for the family, but that doesn't mean it isn't their fault. I'm just sorry that child had to be born to such stupid people.


you just contradicted yourself there

I don't think it was the parents fault either, two year olds are a handful for sure and of course he'd want to play by the water. And they ran in trying to get him back, not bad parents just a really rare and ****ty happening.

But my point on Florida still stands. First Grimmie's murder, then the biggest mass shooting in US history, now babies getting eaten by dinosaurs. Florida seems like Hell this week.
One thing that did bother me is No Swimming Sign=/=Beware of Alligators.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Waateva on Wed, 15 June 2016, 16:23:40

I do feel bad for the family, but that doesn't mean it isn't their fault. I'm just sorry that child had to be born to such stupid people.


you just contradicted yourself there

I don't think it was the parents fault either, two year olds are a handful for sure and of course he'd want to play by the water. And they ran in trying to get him back, not bad parents just a really rare and ****ty happening.

But my point on Florida still stands. First Grimmie's murder, then the biggest mass shooting in US history, now babies getting eaten by dinosaurs. Florida seems like Hell this week.
One thing that did bother me is No Swimming Sign=/=Beware of Alligators.

Yeah, I have kids and they definitely are a handful, but I'd sure as **** be a lot more careful around a sign that said Beware of Alligators.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: demik on Wed, 15 June 2016, 16:33:43
So did they shoot the gator or is this some racist **** that green animals get a bye ?
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: chyros on Wed, 15 June 2016, 17:22:03
I knew a guy from Florida. He called it "God's waiting room" because it's full of old people. He said it's very boring there.

I probably also wouldn't be able to cope with the heat - I get uncomfortable quickly above 20 C (68 F)  :)) .
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 15 June 2016, 18:33:05
you should go on /r/floridaman sometime.

I do feel bad for the family, but that doesn't mean it isn't their fault. I'm just sorry that child had to be born to such stupid people.

How do you get that the family was stupid?  We were at that resort, and saw all sorts of people down there on the shore after the outdoor movie night.  It just says no swimming, and nothing about alligators.  I was surprised to hear that it was even a problem in that area.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 15 June 2016, 19:08:59
I knew a guy from Florida. He called it "God's waiting room" because it's full of old people. He said it's very boring there.

I probably also wouldn't be able to cope with the heat - I get uncomfortable quickly above 20 C (68 F)  :)) .
It's getting up to almost 90 F in the day time right now.


I hate the heat so much.  :'(


Going outside is a chore.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: chyros on Wed, 15 June 2016, 19:31:49
I knew a guy from Florida. He called it "God's waiting room" because it's full of old people. He said it's very boring there.

I probably also wouldn't be able to cope with the heat - I get uncomfortable quickly above 20 C (68 F)  :)) .
It's getting up to almost 90 F in the day time right now.


I hate the heat so much.  :'(


Going outside is a chore.
Ugh, and it's not even a dry heat, is it? D:
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 June 2016, 19:38:43
you should go on /r/floridaman sometime.

I do feel bad for the family, but that doesn't mean it isn't their fault. I'm just sorry that child had to be born to such stupid people.

How do you get that the family was stupid?  We were at that resort, and saw all sorts of people down there on the shore after the outdoor movie night.  It just says no swimming, and nothing about alligators.  I was surprised to hear that it was even a problem in that area.
I'm sorry if it's an unpopular opinion and using stupid was me being a bit too callous, I'm sure there might have been other factors at play that I'm not aware of. I am not a parent, so I really cannot comprehend the horror and sorrow of knowing my child was snatched up by a big scary wild animal to die in a very brutal and scary way. The hard reality is this could have been prevented by keeping a closer eye on one's kid. They were only a few hundred feet from their hotel and I'm sure thousands of people have walked by that same spot with no problem. Hell if they weren't from Florida I could easily believe they didn't even know alligators were in the lake. I just find incidents like this and the one in Cincannati all the more tragic since they seem so avoidable in the first place.   
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:01:06
I knew a guy from Florida. He called it "God's waiting room" because it's full of old people. He said it's very boring there.

I probably also wouldn't be able to cope with the heat - I get uncomfortable quickly above 20 C (68 F)  :)) .
It's getting up to almost 90 F in the day time right now.


I hate the heat so much.  :'(


Going outside is a chore.
Tis true.  It's been hot as ****.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: romevi on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:02:36
Almost 90? It's like that pretty frequently in Chicago. Then again, it may not be as humid.

Also, please don't assume it's always 100% the parents' fault. Those little ****s are fast, and when you're tired you're never quick enough.

That said, those warning signs definitely would've made me a little more cautious.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:05:42
Summers here in Sacramento, CA creep up into the 110's.

A few coworkers from Arizona said that if it's anything below 90 at night.. it's a good night lol
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:06:11
I knew a guy from Florida. He called it "God's waiting room" because it's full of old people. He said it's very boring there.

I probably also wouldn't be able to cope with the heat - I get uncomfortable quickly above 20 C (68 F)  :)) .
It's getting up to almost 90 F in the day time right now.


I hate the heat so much.  :'(


Going outside is a chore.
Tis true.  It's been hot as ****.

Global warming is realz..

I can tell, my soil is much more dry than previous years..

I gotta water way more
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: romevi on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:08:08
What do you grow, tp?
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:08:48
What do you grow, tp?
Curious about this too
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: romevi on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:12:48
What do you grow, tp?
Curious about this too

Ramen?
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Bigpock on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:14:27
Miami was 91f, raining, and feels like 100f today
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Waateva on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:14:35
What do you grow, tp?
Curious about this too

Ramen?

Females?
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: romevi on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:15:24
What do you grow, tp?
Curious about this too

Ramen?

Females?

But then why is tp lonely?
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Waateva on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:16:39
What do you grow, tp?
Curious about this too

Ramen?

Females?

But then why is tp lonely?

Maybe they take a long time to mature?
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:17:46
Meanwhile it's been in the freaking 50's for the past week in Seattle.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:29:58
What do you grow, tp?
Curious about this too

Ramen?

Females?

But then why is tp lonely?

Maybe they take a long time to mature?

It would seem the Geekhack knows the Tp better than the Tp knows himself..  (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 15 June 2016, 20:44:39
you should go on /r/floridaman sometime.

I do feel bad for the family, but that doesn't mean it isn't their fault. I'm just sorry that child had to be born to such stupid people.

How do you get that the family was stupid?  We were at that resort, and saw all sorts of people down there on the shore after the outdoor movie night.  It just says no swimming, and nothing about alligators.  I was surprised to hear that it was even a problem in that area.
I'm sorry if it's an unpopular opinion and using stupid was me being a bit too callous, I'm sure there might have been other factors at play that I'm not aware of. I am not a parent, so I really cannot comprehend the horror and sorrow of knowing my child was snatched up by a big scary wild animal to die in a very brutal and scary way. The hard reality is this could have been prevented by keeping a closer eye on one's kid. They were only a few hundred feet from their hotel and I'm sure thousands of people have walked by that same spot with no problem. Hell if they weren't from Florida I could easily believe they didn't even know alligators were in the lake. I just find incidents like this and the one in Cincannati all the more tragic since they seem so avoidable in the first place.

You do know that they were close enough that the father actually fought the alligator for the child?  And that alligators are quite quick when going after a meal?  Do you know that they didn't have an eye on the child?  Or is that an assumption based on no proof?

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His father jumped in and tried to pry the gator's mouth open. His mother jumped in, too.

That shows that they were quite close.  And considering that the child apparently died of drowning with few bite marks on him, I think your supposition is quite incorrect.

(http://i.imgur.com/oLmJUYj.png)

See the chair a little bit from the water line?  Sure it says no swimming, but people do wade, and get their feet in the water.  I've seen it.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 21 June 2016, 02:57:54
I just noticed this thread.. I grew up in Florida and people don't swim in the lakes for fun, (springs are different; you can spot them quickly) they're swimming because they fell in for some reason. If you visit Florida, your kids should be away from the lakes. One football length is sufficient. Doesn't matter what lake or pond you're around, if they stock it with fish gators will move in. Alligators can run 25mph in short bursts; most people don't know this. So far Crocodiles haven't reached the northern coasts but there are some in Miami so just be wary of your surroundings and all that stuff.

I'm not trying to make Florida seem like a lost world of death; it's just that Alligators are frickin' living dinosaurs, for christ's sake they eat turtles :eek: (seriously, turtles..)
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Data on Tue, 21 June 2016, 07:36:32
Yes, please stay away.  We have enough visitors.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: chyros on Tue, 21 June 2016, 07:39:32
Or you get tasered for no reason, right? :p
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: cryptokey on Tue, 21 June 2016, 07:44:34
What about manbabies?  Should I be concerned?
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 21 June 2016, 07:50:09
Oh yea, I forgot how they tase the bros here :))
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: Data on Tue, 21 June 2016, 08:25:25
Or you get tasered for no reason, right? :p

Tasering is a rite of passage.
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 21 June 2016, 11:00:09
I just noticed this thread.. I grew up in Florida and people don't swim in the lakes for fun, (springs are different; you can spot them quickly) they're swimming because they fell in for some reason. If you visit Florida, your kids should be away from the lakes. One football length is sufficient. Doesn't matter what lake or pond you're around, if they stock it with fish gators will move in. Alligators can run 25mph in short bursts; most people don't know this. So far Crocodiles haven't reached the northern coasts but there are some in Miami so just be wary of your surroundings and all that stuff.

I'm not trying to make Florida seem like a lost world of death; it's just that Alligators are frickin' living dinosaurs, for christ's sake they eat turtles :eek: (seriously, turtles..)

They actually rent these little "mouse boats" at that same location... we saw people zipping around on them.

This guy on NY Post says it better than I.

https://nypost.com/2016/06/20/alligator-attack-has-shaken-longtime-vacationers-trust-in-disney/

But there's another post about the legal responsibilities of Disney, and their exposure for lawsuits, that's very much in line with your statement, i.e.

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That Disney’s resorts are populated by out-of-staters who are unfamiliar with alligators should also have been considered in warnings and signage, Shiner says. “In Florida, we know not to jump in,” he says.

from http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/06/19/disneys-liability-prior-knowledge-questioned/86036062/
Title: Re: And yet another reason never to visit Florida - gator will eat your toddler
Post by: chyros on Tue, 21 June 2016, 11:31:13
Or you get tasered for no reason, right? :p

Tasering is a rite of passage.
Oh yeah, nothing like a bit of the old police brutality on a saturday morning :)) .