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Title: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 16 June 2016, 10:28:09
Hey all,

Update - Samples Arrived
Full album - http://imgur.com/a/qG0UU

Purple 9 UP key = Enjoypbt
Black ESC = Master Control
Purple + Yellow key = Negative Dye Sub

(http://i.imgur.com/LqLQxf1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SVqbol3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/WVHcySL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SFzH7cU.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bOvTag8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/T9qGMFw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0iyCRAr.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NQK8NoV.jpg)

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While CMYK Legacy was a dream, I think that it can be worked on in the future when I am able to make things flow a little more smooth.

For the first keyset Keyclack will release, we are offering two colors in PBT.

The set was created from scratch file was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Here is a sample of what the final sets should look like.

(https://scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/13731199_1568960290066955_884202445_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTI5NzExMjE5MDM2NTM5MjEyMQ%3D%3D.2)

Here are some details that I have now.

1) PBT Magenta. Color code: 0,100,0,0

(https://i.gyazo.com/dd0ae74edfff4759d9981c880e0e6a18.png)

2) PBT Cyan.  Color code: 55,0,15,0

(https://i.gyazo.com/2733ba375601e1e5ffd12573efe14bdf.png)

More
This is my one of my first attempts at doing a IC for a decent keyset. So hopefully, you like it.

Inspiration

I started out with some neutral tones, which I enjoy. Grey & white are a beaut, so I thought that would be a great starting point.

I really wanted to integrate a classic color wheel, the CMYK/W color wheel, so I threw those into the modifiers, and tried to go with the best orientation of the colors. I added orange at the backspace/esc just to try to give it a small hint of warmer colors, and I don't think it disturbs the set too much with the orange.

Colors

I'm using SP PBT chips. But these are just for reference.

The material will be PBT however.

Alphas = WAN

(https://i.gyazo.com/6a0f311b0bdd6ad7c5a41027e8e3c870.png)

Modifiers = GSQ

(https://i.gyazo.com/232fb76b4918fa67183b8dad405aaaf4.png)

The Actual Set!
v2 Design
(https://i.gyazo.com/ade59df80e1b239da0f499ac0e5051e6.png)

More
V1 Design
(https://i.gyazo.com/7b82c43dce916438e9185d4a18466890.png)



Pricing, etc

$110 [151 keys]. No Child kits.

CHERRY PROFILE.

PBT material

MOQ = 100 Units

Interest check

http://goo.gl/forms/r6H87qlLWedipqe63

If there is enough interest, I will move forward and purchase a sample set at my own cost to test it, then we can move forward!

edit #1:

also working on novelties, will possibly move to 3D render. and FEEDBACK is appreciated.

edit #2:

if we hit a 200 unit MOQ, the cost will be $95 per set + shipping!

Edit #3:

Going into purchase of sample set a few hours after IC to test validity of new company. Hopefully it works out!

Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 June 2016, 10:33:03
Who will be the manufacturer?

And double shot pbt?
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: reggalicious on Thu, 16 June 2016, 10:33:12
Looks goooooood. 

Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: romevi on Thu, 16 June 2016, 10:35:53
Cherry PBT? So Gateron? Vortex?
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 16 June 2016, 10:37:10
Who will be the manufacturer?

And double shot pbt?


I'm not 100% sure on how to say the name, but the translation is "DONGGUAN GREAT PLASTIC GOODS".

They have shown me their sample sets, and it looks good. I've been talking to them for a while now, and they seem legit.

In order to alleviate any worry on quality, etc, I am looking to purchase a set for myself in any case (if we go GB or not), just because I like it.

The sample is pretty cheap for a single run, costing about $250.

Also, it looks like thick pbt mold, and not doubleshot.

Cherry PBT? So Gateron? Vortex?

See above.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: Radlife on Thu, 16 June 2016, 11:20:06
Any chance you can show us their sample sets?
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 June 2016, 12:30:06



Also, it looks like thick pbt mold, and not doubleshot.

I didn't know you could get those color combos using dye sub.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 16 June 2016, 15:37:26
Please do some research before starting an IC.  :-X

You can't dye sub a lighter color onto a darker cap. It only works the other way around. This set would have to be doubleshot.

Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 16 June 2016, 15:42:48
Please do some research before starting an IC.  :-X

You can't dye sub a lighter color onto a darker cap. It only works the other way around. This set would have to be doubleshot.

I understand the limitations of the dye sub printing process and confirmed with the company that if the pigment of grey is light, then the legends can be printed in their multi color form.

If anything, the Grey color will have to be changed to a lighter hue.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 16 June 2016, 15:57:08
Please do some research before starting an IC.  :-X

You can't dye sub a lighter color onto a darker cap. It only works the other way around. This set would have to be doubleshot.

I understand the limitations of the dye sub printing process and confirmed with the company that if the pigment of grey is light, then the legends can be printed in their multi color form.

If anything, the Grey color will have to be changed to a lighter hue.

Do you have any pictures of what the end result would look like? Actual photos of their caps?

Due to how the sublimation process works, you can't discharge a darker color from the base, and replace it with another lighter color.

If some new company (or any company, honestly) promised this was possible, I'd be very hesitant to believe them without proof first.

Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: shower_king on Thu, 16 June 2016, 19:25:58
Who will be the manufacturer?

And double shot pbt?

i know this. thank you for your explanation.
if not double-shot, i prefer to dye-sub.
whether "dongguan great plastic goods"is high quality or not , we  who all  be interest in this IC even GB should confirm this plastic in person and look into how the real keycaps look like after dye-sub.
As i know, many but not all moulds for PBT , more or less, have crooked mx-stem moulds including BSP's PBT . Except for crooked stem and only wkl's lay-out, BSP is pretty comfortable in touching and typing  in gentleness and texture on surface.

i am extremely interested in your idea on this color-way. May be BSP' PBT is one option of your many options . Due to flaw in mould, the crooked stem of BSP could not be foundementally addressed but we could remind BSP of stricter QC on them. and we could choose more blank keycaps for dye-sub for wk lay-out. as for minority lay-out ,we could turn to enjoy PBT.

BSP's PBT has less lower price than "dongguan great plastic goods".
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 16 June 2016, 19:30:27
I'm interested to see how this turns out. Given the color scheme and the dye sub process, I would not be willing to purchase a set until we can see real pictures of their quality.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 16 June 2016, 21:51:26
Who will be the manufacturer?

And double shot pbt?

i know this. thank you for your explanation.
if not double-shot, i prefer to dye-sub.
whether "dongguan great plastic goods"is high quality or not , we  who all  be interest in this IC even GB should confirm this plastic in person and look into how the real keycaps look like after dye-sub.
As i know, many but not all moulds for PBT , more or less, have crooked mx-stem moulds including BSP's PBT . Except for crooked stem and only wkl's lay-out, BSP is pretty comfortable in touching and typing  in gentleness and texture on surface.

i am extremely interested in your idea on this color-way. May be BSP' PBT is one option of your many options . Due to flaw in mould, the crooked stem of BSP could not be foundementally addressed but we could remind BSP of stricter QC on them. and we could choose more blank keycaps for dye-sub for wk lay-out. as for minority lay-out ,we could turn to enjoy PBT.

BSP's PBT has less lower price than "dongguan great plastic goods".

BSP, for the most part, is great. High quality Cherry profile BPT caps. I know for a fact they can't dye sub a lighter legend onto a darker cap though. Also, the long running problem with BSP is that they don't do space bars, so organizing a GB through them requires a bit more work, as you have to source spacebars elsewhere.

But like you are saying, without explicit proof this random company can produce high quality caps WITH a new way of dye sublimation that nobody else has figured out yet, i'll skip on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: shower_king on Fri, 17 June 2016, 00:04:01
Who will be the manufacturer?

And double shot pbt?

i know this. thank you for your explanation.
if not double-shot, i prefer to dye-sub.
whether "dongguan great plastic goods"is high quality or not , we  who all  be interest in this IC even GB should confirm this plastic in person and look into how the real keycaps look like after dye-sub.
As i know, many but not all moulds for PBT , more or less, have crooked mx-stem moulds including BSP's PBT . Except for crooked stem and only wkl's lay-out, BSP is pretty comfortable in touching and typing  in gentleness and texture on surface.

i am extremely interested in your idea on this color-way. May be BSP' PBT is one option of your many options . Due to flaw in mould, the crooked stem of BSP could not be foundementally addressed but we could remind BSP of stricter QC on them. and we could choose more blank keycaps for dye-sub for wk lay-out. as for minority lay-out ,we could turn to enjoy PBT.

BSP's PBT has less lower price than "dongguan great plastic goods".

BSP, for the most part, is great. High quality Cherry profile BPT caps. I know for a fact they can't dye sub a lighter legend onto a darker cap though. Also, the long running problem with BSP is that they don't do space bars, so organizing a GB through them requires a bit more work, as you have to source spacebars elsewhere.

But like you are saying, without explicit proof this random company can produce high quality caps WITH a new way of dye sublimation that nobody else has figured out yet, i'll skip on this one.

yesir, you have told more details on BSP's PBT.  we choose GMK 's 7×and 6.25× blank space instead and there is a bit difference between BSP's color and GMK‘s ,nonetheless, the difference have less effect on matching them harmoniously.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: alveeno on Fri, 17 June 2016, 00:25:05
Have you considered keeping modifier legends white except for ctrl, alt, and shift to match CMY mods colors
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 17 June 2016, 03:37:35
I'm in tested to see how this turns out. Given the color scheme and the dye sub process, I would not be willing to purchase a set until we can see real pictures of their quality.

Sounds great, thanks for the interest! I just paid for the keyset sample, and hopefully it turns out well.

Who will be the manufacturer?

And double shot pbt?

i know this. thank you for your explanation.
if not double-shot, i prefer to dye-sub.
whether "dongguan great plastic goods"is high quality or not , we  who all  be interest in this IC even GB should confirm this plastic in person and look into how the real keycaps look like after dye-sub.
As i know, many but not all moulds for PBT , more or less, have crooked mx-stem moulds including BSP's PBT . Except for crooked stem and only wkl's lay-out, BSP is pretty comfortable in touching and typing  in gentleness and texture on surface.

i am extremely interested in your idea on this color-way. May be BSP' PBT is one option of your many options . Due to flaw in mould, the crooked stem of BSP could not be foundementally addressed but we could remind BSP of stricter QC on them. and we could choose more blank keycaps for dye-sub for wk lay-out. as for minority lay-out ,we could turn to enjoy PBT.

BSP's PBT has less lower price than "dongguan great plastic goods".

BSP, for the most part, is great. High quality Cherry profile BPT caps. I know for a fact they can't dye sub a lighter legend onto a darker cap though. Also, the long running problem with BSP is that they don't do space bars, so organizing a GB through them requires a bit more work, as you have to source spacebars elsewhere.

But like you are saying, without explicit proof this random company can produce high quality caps WITH a new way of dye sublimation that nobody else has figured out yet, i'll skip on this one.

yesir, you have told more details on BSP's PBT.  we choose GMK 's 7×and 6.25× blank space instead and there is a bit difference between BSP's color and GMK‘s ,nonetheless, the difference have less effect on matching them harmoniously.

Thanks for this insight! I haven't dealt with BSP before, but they look like a decent company to work with. I've only seen their sets through Ori's releases.

If you think they have a mold problem, then I would like to avoid that. This is my first release, or attempt at a release, so I'd like for it to turn out well.

Last thing, do you know the pricing scheme/contact for BSP? This has 150 keys for about $100, which is an okay price.

Have you considered keeping modifier legends white except for ctrl, alt, and shift to match CMY mods colors

HMM. That definitely sounds good. Maybe I can tack that on with this, without incurring too much cost. But with all the CTRL sizes, etc, I might have to change that around.

I will play with this idea, as I definitely like how it can play out, but it might just look like the CMYW mods haha, which I'm trying to push away from.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 17 June 2016, 04:38:32
Can I see a render with cmyw mods? I would like to see how well they work together.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 17 June 2016, 21:19:31
Can I see a render with cmyw mods? I would like to see how well they work together.

Check it out! Just updated it. I think the update looks a lot better.
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 17 June 2016, 22:08:42
Can I see a render with cmyw mods? I would like to see how well they work together.

Check it out! Just updated it. I think the update looks a lot better.

Oh wow! That looks surprisingly nice. You should just call this the official keyclack set.

Some custom artisans like a cmyw themed wk-001 would be cool to see. Definitely in for one.

Can we still get the original grey mods though?
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 17 June 2016, 22:32:32
Can I see a render with cmyw mods? I would like to see how well they work together.

Check it out! Just updated it. I think the update looks a lot better.

Oh wow! That looks surprisingly nice. You should just call this the official keyclack set.

Some custom artisans like a cmyw themed wk-001 would be cool to see. Definitely in for one.

Can we still get the original grey mods though?

I definitely want to, and maybe a future GB of just muted/white mods would be nice.

I think the first goal should be the CMYW goal :3
Title: Re: [IC] CMYW Legacy
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 17 June 2016, 23:16:44
Can I see a render with cmyw mods? I would like to see how well they work together.

Check it out! Just updated it. I think the update looks a lot better.

Oh wow! That looks surprisingly nice. You should just call this the official keyclack set.

Some custom artisans like a cmyw themed wk-001 would be cool to see. Definitely in for one.

Can we still get the original grey mods though?

I definitely want to, and maybe a future GB of just muted/white mods would be nice.

I think the first goal should be the CMYW goal :3

got it :) excited to get my night unicorn.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 21 July 2016, 04:28:31
Bump! I added an update.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: ntw on Thu, 21 July 2016, 05:49:51
these looks promising but shares the same concern that the lighter color on the modifier legends might not turn out well against the vibrant cyan and magenta background.


perhaps you should request for the sample and share the pictures with us
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 21 July 2016, 21:30:26
these looks promising but shares the same concern that the lighter color on the modifier legends might not turn out well against the vibrant cyan and magenta background.


perhaps you should request for the sample and share the pictures with us

Agreed. I am getting samples in the colors that I have posted for the CMYK codes above. Hopefully it is vibrant!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: WOMBO on Thu, 21 July 2016, 21:45:02
i'd be so in for magenta if it actually works out
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: romevi on Thu, 21 July 2016, 23:43:42
Dat Trix cereal ISO Enter. The first ISO cap I want.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: lolpes on Fri, 22 July 2016, 05:38:27
That ENTER :3
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: xondat on Fri, 22 July 2016, 06:22:34
The keys don't seem to be uniform among the sets. The lack of a stepped caps lock is unusual and would be a deal breaker for me.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 22 July 2016, 06:43:05
The keys don't seem to be uniform among the sets. The lack of a stepped caps lock is unusual and would be a deal breaker for me.

I realized that supporting ISO would cost a lot more than I want this set to come out to and I personally don't like the idea of child kits :\.

we'll see if I'll keep those extra keys
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: Niomosy on Fri, 22 July 2016, 12:52:01
This one could be interesting given the low price.  Always a fan of blue.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 22 July 2016, 20:33:20
This one could be interesting given the low price.  Always a fan of blue.

Yaahhhs. The price is something I am super proud of, and I'm pretty sure it'll stick to that $60 price point in the GB. Then retail for extra at $70. Still, I believe that for the price, it is a great value.

Looking to see what other keys to include right now to make this set good for most layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 22 July 2016, 21:30:34
The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 22 July 2016, 23:23:49
The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...

Oh sorry. I meant that the file was created from scratch. I didn't want to claim ownership for the pattern, color, or whichever.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: Niomosy on Sat, 23 July 2016, 01:57:40
The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...


For at least the cyan set, I see two immediate differences.  First, it's PBT rather than ABS for the GMK set.  Second, there's a significant price drop for this set compared with the GMK set.  Sure, it's another cyan/white set but the two differences might be of interest to some.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: PQStarLord on Sat, 23 July 2016, 16:06:42
Looking good!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: WOMBO on Sat, 23 July 2016, 16:17:10
The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...

they're literally two tone colorways, it's not like he's copying any of the novelties either. want to complain about WoB, BoW, and classic beige while you're at it?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 23 July 2016, 16:19:57
The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...


For at least the cyan set, I see two immediate differences.  First, it's PBT rather than ABS for the GMK set.  Second, there's a significant price drop for this set compared with the GMK set.  Sure, it's another cyan/white set but the two differences might be of interest to some.

The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...

they're literally two tone colorways, it's not like he's copying any of the novelties either. want to complain about WoB, BoW, and classic beige while you're at it?

Don't try and twist my words.

I complained about him claiming it was designed by scratch. Which, unless jchan94 is oblivious to what happens in this community, is totally false.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 23 July 2016, 16:41:47
The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...


For at least the cyan set, I see two immediate differences.  First, it's PBT rather than ABS for the GMK set.  Second, there's a significant price drop for this set compared with the GMK set.  Sure, it's another cyan/white set but the two differences might be of interest to some.

The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...

they're literally two tone colorways, it's not like he's copying any of the novelties either. want to complain about WoB, BoW, and classic beige while you're at it?

Don't try and twist my words.

I complained about him claiming it was designed by scratch. Which, unless jchan94 is oblivious to what happens in this community, is totally false.

Haha it's all good guise. I meant that the FILE was created from scratch, fonts used, alignment, etc. I have since edited/ crossed out previous words in the OP.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 23 July 2016, 16:45:16
Haha it's all good guise. I meant that the FILE was created from scratch, fonts used, alignment, etc. I have since edited/ crossed out previous words in the OP.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: breckstar on Sat, 23 July 2016, 19:10:58
Can't wait to see the quality. Definitely would take one of both if good.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: kasakka on Sun, 24 July 2016, 13:47:37
I would be in for both colors as I'd like to combine the two for some 1980s retroish goodness. The pricing is great but I hope it doesn't sell out in a minute.

Huge plus if a 1.5u backspace key and Capslock size Control key could be added for those of us that like layouts that use those. Or offer some sort of mod pack with unusual keys.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: alveeno on Sun, 24 July 2016, 19:00:17
Jchan W T F is this ????????

I'll buy both sets. How dare you.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: Niomosy on Sun, 24 July 2016, 20:54:52
The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...


For at least the cyan set, I see two immediate differences.  First, it's PBT rather than ABS for the GMK set.  Second, there's a significant price drop for this set compared with the GMK set.  Sure, it's another cyan/white set but the two differences might be of interest to some.

The set was created from scratch and uses dye sub in order to achieve it.

Maybe I'm being 'that guy' but these are two exact color schemes that have already been successful inside the community. GMK Valentine and GMK Cyan. Of course you have the right to set up any IC you want, but c'mon...

they're literally two tone colorways, it's not like he's copying any of the novelties either. want to complain about WoB, BoW, and classic beige while you're at it?

Don't try and twist my words.

I complained about him claiming it was designed by scratch. Which, unless jchan94 is oblivious to what happens in this community, is totally false.


I understand.  My reply stemmed from the fact that I assumed there was no claim of unique design from scratch.  All good, though.  I think we just started from different points.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: repuls0r on Mon, 25 July 2016, 12:24:17
Count me in for at least one set
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 25 July 2016, 15:40:50
The keys don't seem to be uniform among the sets. The lack of a stepped caps lock is unusual and would be a deal breaker for me.

Decided to add the stepped key and a few other keys. The cost shouldn't be affect at this point :)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: zabuza1997 on Sun, 31 July 2016, 12:48:12
I dont understand the $60 introductory price. What is that?
And I dont like the pricing part. $110 for a keyset from China? The same pricing tier with GMK Germany? Madness
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 31 July 2016, 12:56:25
I dont understand the $60 introductory price. What is that?
And I dont like the pricing part. $110 for a keyset from China? The same pricing tier with GMK Germany? Madness

The GB sets will run at $60 per set, the extras (or leftovers, however you want to call them) will be sold for $70 per set, just like it is common in groupbuys. It will not be an extra $70 on top of the $60, but the extra sets will be sold for $70. It's clear now I hope.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: zabuza1997 on Sun, 31 July 2016, 13:11:34
I dont understand the $60 introductory price. What is that?
And I dont like the pricing part. $110 for a keyset from China? The same pricing tier with GMK Germany? Madness

The GB sets will run at $60 per set, the extras (or leftovers, however you want to call them) will be sold for $70 per set, just like it is common in groupbuys. It will not be an extra $70 on top of the $60, but the extra sets will be sold for $70. It's clear now I hope.
Thank you. But how about $110 for 151 keys?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 31 July 2016, 13:24:58
Thank you. But how about $110 for 151 keys?

I'm pretty sure that was the price for a different set, the CMYW Legacy, which is put on hold in favor of PBT Cyan and Magenta.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: Lepidus on Sun, 31 July 2016, 13:31:18
Is that picture a sample of their actual caps, or just a photoshop so we can have an idea of the colors?

I am really curious about the sample, how the hell they can dyesub lighter legends? Do they dyesub everything except the legends?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: muon on Sun, 31 July 2016, 15:30:00
That ISO enter tho  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: WOMBO on Sun, 31 July 2016, 15:41:40
Is that picture a sample of their actual caps, or just a photoshop so we can have an idea of the colors?

I am really curious about the sample, how the hell they can dyesub lighter legends? Do they dyesub everything except the legends?
yep, surprised no one's done it before honestly
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 31 July 2016, 15:49:39
Is that picture a sample of their actual caps, or just a photoshop so we can have an idea of the colors?

I am really curious about the sample, how the hell they can dyesub lighter legends? Do they dyesub everything except the legends?
yep, surprised no one's done it before honestly

Wait did no one try or were there valid reasons no one did it before? I've had this idea ever since I heard about that whole dyesub stuff, but I thought that it is basically impossible since no one did it at that time.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 01 August 2016, 03:27:08
Don't have a lot of time, but I'll address whatever concerns here.

The $60 price is the GB price.  Retail will run $10 more than that. I personally like keeping Gbs small so I'm not holding onto a bunch of people's money and then not ending up delivering. 

The $110price was for another set using a different dye sub process. However, I realized that the price was unreasonable despite the result. The company also had bad communication which I personally did not like.

So the current offer is the PBT magenta and PBT cyan sets you see before you.

The image you see is not a Photoshop. It is a real cap. I'm waiting for samples to arrive this week (from what I'm told). We'll see how it is! I'll take photos with my macro lens to show quality compared to enjoypbt.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 01 August 2016, 03:29:36
If this set is a possibility so that means a Dyesub White on black is possible too!?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 01 August 2016, 03:34:18
If this set is a possibility so that means a Dyesub White on black is possible too!?

Definitely a possibility.  In fact, I will look into that as well.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 01 August 2016, 03:44:19
If this set is a possibility so that means a Dyesub White on black is possible too!?

Definitely a possibility.  In fact, I will look into that as well.
Yes please! I want it
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: zabuza1997 on Wed, 10 August 2016, 16:52:51
Bump! Looking 4ward to the sample pics!!!!

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: zabuza1997 on Tue, 16 August 2016, 17:51:02
How was the sample caps?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 16 August 2016, 18:54:54
How was the sample caps?

Arrives this week :D. Shipping was slow :(
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 18 August 2016, 19:35:41
SAMPLES ARRIVED.

http://imgur.com/a/qG0UU.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: y2bd on Thu, 18 August 2016, 19:44:02
SAMPLES ARRIVED.

http://imgur.com/a/qG0UU.
Light on dark dye sublimated keycaps!? Has man gone too far?!?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 18 August 2016, 19:46:47
SAMPLES ARRIVED.

http://imgur.com/a/qG0UU.

Looking good! I wish you were doing this GB for that shade of Purple though! I don't think Cyan or Magenta colour would go with any of my boards. Maybe for Round 2 you could consider Purple or other colours?

Also plz offer winkeys with that vintage windows logo! Maybe as an optional add-on? It's super pretty, especially in Purple like the samples.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 18 August 2016, 19:50:26
WoB next please!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 18 August 2016, 19:52:54
WoB next please!

You black BoW? :D

Because You can get the classic beige one or get the Master Control one somewhere I bet O:
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: jbondeson on Thu, 18 August 2016, 19:55:21
Looks great. I'd definitely be interested.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 18 August 2016, 19:58:40
WoB next please!

You black BoW? :D

Because You can get the classic beige one or get the Master Control one somewhere I bet O:
WoB as is White on Black haha
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 18 August 2016, 20:18:31
Is that picture a sample of their actual caps, or just a photoshop so we can have an idea of the colors?

I am really curious about the sample, how the hell they can dyesub lighter legends? Do they dyesub everything except the legends?

the yellow & purple are the actual caps.

Negative dye sub process. Dye sub around the legend.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 18 August 2016, 21:36:33
Wow, those legends are crisper than I thought the process would make.

If they can dye the whole cap evenly you could make some promising sets.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 18 August 2016, 21:49:50
Wow, those legends are crisper than I thought the process would make.

If they can dye the whole cap evenly you could make some promising sets.

Legends are nice, but the dye sub job on the sides are not good :(. Back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: Bob on Thu, 18 August 2016, 23:08:15
the yellow & purple are the actual caps.

Negative dye sub process. Dye sub around the legend.

Really interesting process and it seems to work fairly consistently down to the base of the caps, though it looks like they had trouble with the ISO return key inside the corner where the dye hasn't made contact.

I probably wouldn't be interested in a full keyset, but would definitely be interested in a purple mod pack, particularly 1.25 OS keys, ESC key, and Enter key. Would go great with the black/purple on beige Hangul set I recently bought through your site. Would mod packs or individual keys be a possibility before full keysets go ahead, to give people a cheaper option to see these caps for themselves?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: Suembeaux on Fri, 19 August 2016, 00:41:36
For a moment I was thinking "This seems really inefficient..." but then I saw the possible renders with the striped Enter key and I stopped caring.

This is cool, and I hope something awesome comes from it.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: Bob on Fri, 19 August 2016, 03:42:46
For a moment I was thinking "This seems really inefficient..." but then I saw the possible renders with the striped Enter key and I stopped caring.

This is cool, and I hope something awesome comes from it.

Wait... are they actual samples or just renders?  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 19 August 2016, 03:44:13
For a moment I was thinking "This seems really inefficient..." but then I saw the possible renders with the striped Enter key and I stopped caring.

This is cool, and I hope something awesome comes from it.

Wait... are they actual samples or just renders?  :-[

those tri color caps (iso enters) was a sample pic i got from the factory.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: D4ndie on Fri, 19 August 2016, 04:16:45
Woah, I didn't know this existed.

That tricolor enter key is to die for.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: yottagray on Fri, 19 August 2016, 09:44:32
Wow,way to push the envelope here. Can't wait to get my hands on these.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: zabuza1997 on Wed, 24 August 2016, 12:20:57
Holy f*ck! Real nice man!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: Rebral on Sat, 27 August 2016, 10:41:12
These caps look amazing! Loving the tri-color enters.

When Magenta enters GB, count me in. :)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: zabuza1997 on Wed, 07 September 2016, 23:00:26
Bump!!!

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta
Post by: Bob on Sun, 11 September 2016, 23:08:44
Oops, replied to an old post by accident and couldn't figure out how to delete.

Anyway, might as well make this post count... any word on the possibility of a mod pack?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: kasakka on Fri, 16 September 2016, 06:01:18
Anything new on this?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: zabuza1997 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:42:58
Bump!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 04 October 2016, 00:17:15
Bump!

Still waiting for some better consistency for the dye sub :P.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 01 November 2016, 16:54:14
Bump!

Still waiting for some better consistency for the dye sub :P.

Here's to hoping.  It would be nice to have more cap buying options.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: ticktwo on Thu, 10 November 2016, 03:09:18
looks good!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: poolside on Sat, 10 December 2016, 12:22:21
looks good!

Nice purple caps, indeed.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Magenta (August 18 - Samples Arrived)
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 10 December 2016, 19:28:07
Locking this for now, until we are able to get better production quality :)