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Title: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: davkol on Sun, 19 June 2016, 05:54:36
For future reference, there is a Chinese keyboard brand called SmartYao, that announced three split mechanical keyboards in winter 2015/2016. The exact models are LY092-MINI (http://www.smartyao.com/page930.html) (70% staggered), LY092-SD (http://www.smartyao.com/page685.html) (larger 70% staggered) and LY092-SN (http://www.smartyao.com/page742.html) (75% matrix). The first staggered two are currently available on Taibao.
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: nemui on Mon, 20 June 2016, 09:51:51
Thanks for the heads-up. I'd love to see how their matrix model works out.
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: Phenix on Tue, 21 June 2016, 10:43:12
the Matrix one looks nice, looking forward seeing it!
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: LuX on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:01:19
The hex numpad looks kinda interesting, and could serve as a gamepad as well. I wonder what "Keyboard Type : mechanical keyboard (red axis), ErgoDox compatible keyboard for professional high-speed input" precisely means. Cherry red switches and ErgoDox compatible, huh?

(http://dme657285d3.pic11.websiteonline.cn/upload/ly092-sn-right-num_024s.jpg)
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 21 June 2016, 18:20:03
The staggered ones look interesting.  I'd consider picking one up if they become more easily available in the US.
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 22 June 2016, 12:15:08
My taobao fu is not as good as my google fu, can you provide the tao bao links?
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 23 June 2016, 03:07:46
http://shop114100401.taobao.com/
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 25 June 2016, 07:23:25
Hrrrmm.. ok.. but there's no tenting ...
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 28 June 2016, 11:24:58
Hrrrmm.. ok.. but there's no tenting ...

Sounds like a lot of other split keyboards - BYOT.
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: figit090 on Tue, 28 June 2016, 12:33:12
Doesn't look bad for about $100, but I have no idea how to order and ship to the US or how much that would be. Google translate doesn't really help on the final sign in and order page. I don't actually want one of these but I was really curious if you can get them in the United States

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Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: nemui on Tue, 28 June 2016, 20:28:28
Doesn't look bad for about $100, but I have no idea how to order and ship to the US or how much that would be. Google translate doesn't really help on the final sign in and order page. I don't actually want one of these but I was really curious if you can get them in the United States

I don't have a Taobao account myself, so I can only go by whatever information is posted on the product page, which, if it is to be believed, provides options to ship to Australia, Canada, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, US, and there's one option that says "all other countries". For the US option, the shipping is 90RMB for the first KG and an additional 22RMB per subsequent 500g. So I think they most probably do ship to the US? I'm basing this off https://world.taobao.com/item/526316023548.htm?fromSite=main by the way. Hope that helped!
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: figit090 on Tue, 28 June 2016, 20:35:55
Doesn't look bad for about $100, but I have no idea how to order and ship to the US or how much that would be. Google translate doesn't really help on the final sign in and order page. I don't actually want one of these but I was really curious if you can get them in the United States

I don't have a Taobao account myself, so I can only go by whatever information is posted on the product page, which, if it is to be believed, provides options to ship to Australia, Canada, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, US, and there's one option that says "all other countries". For the US option, the shipping is 90RMB for the first KG and an additional 22RMB per subsequent 500g. So I think they most probably do ship to the US? I'm basing this off https://world.taobao.com/item/526316023548.htm?fromSite=main by the way. Hope that helped!
Thanks!  Hopefully Kinesis gets a mechanical split keyboard done before these hit the US with more availability.

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Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 29 June 2016, 01:16:57
Doesn't look bad for about $100, but I have no idea how to order and ship to the US or how much that would be. Google translate doesn't really help on the final sign in and order page. I don't actually want one of these but I was really curious if you can get them in the United States

I don't have a Taobao account myself, so I can only go by whatever information is posted on the product page, which, if it is to be believed, provides options to ship to Australia, Canada, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, US, and there's one option that says "all other countries". For the US option, the shipping is 90RMB for the first KG and an additional 22RMB per subsequent 500g. So I think they most probably do ship to the US? I'm basing this off https://world.taobao.com/item/526316023548.htm?fromSite=main by the way. Hope that helped!
Thanks!  Hopefully Kinesis gets a mechanical split keyboard done before these hit the US with more availability.

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Kinesis has been working on a mechanical Freestyle board for a while now.  Nice, split ANSI board.  I'd love for that to come out in the near future.
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: figit090 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 01:27:17
Doesn't look bad for about $100, but I have no idea how to order and ship to the US or how much that would be. Google translate doesn't really help on the final sign in and order page. I don't actually want one of these but I was really curious if you can get them in the United States

I don't have a Taobao account myself, so I can only go by whatever information is posted on the product page, which, if it is to be believed, provides options to ship to Australia, Canada, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, US, and there's one option that says "all other countries". For the US option, the shipping is 90RMB for the first KG and an additional 22RMB per subsequent 500g. So I think they most probably do ship to the US? I'm basing this off https://world.taobao.com/item/526316023548.htm?fromSite=main by the way. Hope that helped!
Thanks!  Hopefully Kinesis gets a mechanical split keyboard done before these hit the US with more availability.

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Kinesis has been working on a mechanical Freestyle board for a while now.  Nice, split ANSI board.  I'd love for that to come out in the near future.
Yeah they mentioned that to me, I hope it's soon!

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Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: dantan on Sun, 09 October 2016, 22:17:28
Has anybody tried out this keyboard? I can't find reviews online.

If you look up smartyao mechanical keyboard on google the top thread is Reddit, the second thread is geekhack, and the third is the official webpage after which everything else is irrelevant.

I don't completely like their design but I need a split layout keyboard so for me it is either Design one or Buy. I don't know PCB design, but was thinking that maybe if I have the schematics for one design I can alter it a bit to fit my needs which would be better than starting from scratch which I know nothing about.
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:11:23
It's a keyboard

Realistically, it's not going to work better or worse than any-other keyboard..



For long term use, ACTUAL use, not just the 20 posts a day on facebook,   Eventually Ergonomics will matter, because of wrist pain with regards to FLAT keyboards.


Even a split keyboard such as this is fundamentally not an improvement upon 1 piece flat keyboards, because the WRIST ANGLE is what makes ALL the difference..


Literally nothing else matters or makes any difference in practical usage.. WRIST angle that's it..

You can take 2x regular 1 piece 87 key, prop them up to the right angles, and they work just fine with the minor dual hand timing inconsistency.


That's what I did for a time, before the Ergodox was available..  I was personally able to modify my typing rhythm to bypass the timing inconsistency between using 2 separate 87key keyboards.

Now, I don't recommend anyone use 2x 87, because the technique required to do so is probably only convenient enough for 100+ wpm people who are already very familiar with controlling their typing rhythm. .
Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 12 October 2016, 08:32:26
Just the left-hand programmable split keyboard of this weird model out-sold the both-sided option by 400%+
This is probably due to the practicality of a programmable left-hand keyboard by the heavy mouse users, such as the CAD drawing workers or gamers.

(https://gd1.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i1/2842459980/TB2BGnfamEb61BjSZFsXXbNMpXa_!!2842459980.jpg_600x600.jpg)

Title: Re: SmartYao split mechanical keyboards on Chinese market
Post by: Minnie2 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 00:33:07
i didn't find this kbd in Taobao,if u need,i could buy what u want to buy,then send to you.