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Title: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: supamesican on Sat, 25 June 2016, 14:15:01
So yeah the model F doesnt have dedicated arrow keys, just shares them with the numpad and switches when I hit numlock. Usually thats fine but theres a few things I do that just ignores when I hit numlock and keeps them as the numpad no matter what I do! I can NOT just remap them, I use it far more as a numpad than arrow keys. Is there anything I can use to like turn the scroll lock in to a function key  and then hit that and another key to make the computer think I hit a true forward arrow or something?

EDIT... never mind I forgot auto hot key existed for a minute... Please ignore this tired programmer.
Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: QuincyJones on Sat, 25 June 2016, 15:01:01
But... but... but... the Model F is the greatest keyboard ever... EVER!
Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: mteinum on Sat, 25 June 2016, 15:04:43
Change your editor?

http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_03.html
Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Sat, 25 June 2016, 15:30:02
WASD  :-)

So yeah the model F doesnt have dedicated arrow keys, just shares them with the numpad and switches when I hit numlock. Usually thats fine but theres a few things I do that just ignores when I hit numlock and keeps them as the numpad no matter what I do! I can NOT just remap them, I use it far more as a numpad than arrow keys. Is there anything I can use to like turn the scroll lock in to a function key  and then hit that and another key to make the computer think I hit a true forward arrow or something?

EDIT... never mind I forgot auto hot key existed for a minute... Please ignore this tired programmer.

Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: Moistgun on Sat, 25 June 2016, 15:39:23
So yeah the model F doesnt have dedicated arrow keys, just shares them with the numpad and switches when I hit numlock. Usually thats fine but theres a few things I do that just ignores when I hit numlock and keeps them as the numpad no matter what I do! I can NOT just remap them, I use it far more as a numpad than arrow keys. Is there anything I can use to like turn the scroll lock in to a function key  and then hit that and another key to make the computer think I hit a true forward arrow or something?

EDIT... never mind I forgot auto hot key existed for a minute... Please ignore this tired programmer.

I like having a arrow cluster on my 60% in the HHKB layout most.

Another option I have when I enter numbers is a seperate pad that has a numpad and a arrow cluster on it.
Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: batfink on Sun, 26 June 2016, 11:13:21
Don't use arrow keys at all.

Define an extra layer, like this Extend Layer (http://colemakmods.github.io/ergonomic-mods/extend.html) or like GuiFN (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57723.0), and use your home keys!

It's way better than arrow keys.

Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: supamesican on Sun, 26 June 2016, 13:08:57
ooo the extra layer stuff looks awesome!
Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: dante on Sun, 26 June 2016, 13:14:37
You get arrow keys by thinking in Russian:

Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: dustigroove on Mon, 27 June 2016, 08:37:57
Don't use arrow keys at all.

Define an extra layer, like this Extend Layer (http://colemakmods.github.io/ergonomic-mods/extend.html) or like GuiFN (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57723.0), and use your home keys!

It's way better than arrow keys.
Nice link, thanks for posting this... will def be using as a reference.

Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: geekhack360 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 02:35:09
I was going to saw autohotkey, but I see you figured that out.
Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: Data on Wed, 29 June 2016, 12:44:22
Get yourself some arrow keys.  TechKeys has a version of the SixKeyBoard that's just an arrow cluster.

http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/sixkeyboard

Title: Re: How to get around not having arrow keys?
Post by: zeltner on Wed, 29 June 2016, 12:52:02
Don't use arrow keys at all.

Define an extra layer, like this Extend Layer (http://colemakmods.github.io/ergonomic-mods/extend.html) or like GuiFN (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57723.0), and use your home keys!

It's way better than arrow keys.

I use guifn on my 60% board and I agree it's way better than arrow keys.