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Title: Keyboard for typing
Post by: Shinrin on Wed, 29 June 2016, 12:32:05
Hello
I plan to buy new mechanical keyboard. Before I used normal membrane keyboard connected to laptop :D but I moved to other place and now I'm using laptop keyboard which for me is like hell.
So I'm gonna use this keyboard 90% for typing and about 10% in games. I have few  types:
- Corsair Gaming K70 MX Blue
- Das Keyboard 4 Professional MX Blue
- Ducky One Mechanical Keyboard MX Blue
- LOGITECH G610 Orion MX Brown

Which one of them should I buy or any other suggestion?

Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: Baddy126 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 12:33:42
From that list I would recommend ducky but for the price you're paying... I think you should also consider filcos
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: romevi on Wed, 29 June 2016, 12:34:02
What*s y64r b4dget/
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: SKD on Wed, 29 June 2016, 12:48:50
I started with a Ducky Shine 5 with blues for typing and gaming, more gaming. After I built my 60% with reds I found the blues annoying as hell and I've now sold the Shine 5. The linear reds are much nicer for gaming and typing, I like them more than the browns in my Rapid-I which I mainly use for gaming. The 60% with reds for a lot of typing.

I would recommend trying out some reds and browns too, unless you're set on blues.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: Shinrin on Wed, 29 June 2016, 12:54:12
I didn't have mechanical keyboard before so I'm not set on any of switches yet.
I also thought about ducky shine 5 but I don't know if additional cost is worth of it?
Budget is around 140£,  so it would be +-190$.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: romevi on Wed, 29 June 2016, 12:58:08
I didn't have mechanical keyboard before so I'm not set on any of switches yet.
I also thought about ducky shine 5 but I don't know if additional cost is worth of it?
Budget is around 140£,  so it would be +-190$.

If you can stretch your budget just a bit more (though I'm not sure of they're availability where you are), you can get a Realforce or HHKB. Best $200 keyboards out there.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: QuincyJones on Wed, 29 June 2016, 15:13:07
this may sound like blasphemy, but after a long resistance, I do like using an xbox controller for some games to using the keyboard
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: SKD on Wed, 29 June 2016, 15:50:06
I didn't have mechanical keyboard before so I'm not set on any of switches yet.
I also thought about ducky shine 5 but I don't know if additional cost is worth of it?
Budget is around 140£,  so it would be +-190$.

Could have sold you my Shine 5 lol, sold mine for £80 the other day on eBay. But I wouldn't buy the Ducky stuff in UK second hand, the price of a Shine 5 here is nearly double the price as Asia markets. I bought mine (when I was in Hong Kong back in March) for not much more than what I sold it for.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: Bigpock on Wed, 29 June 2016, 15:53:44
What else do you do with a keyboard besides type...

Keyboards for door stoppers, keyboards as dinner plates, keyboards for back massager, keyboard as flux capacitor
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 29 June 2016, 16:10:06
Unicomp <3
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: Shinrin on Wed, 29 June 2016, 16:25:55
What else do you do with a keyboard besides type...

Keyboards for door stoppers, keyboards as dinner plates, keyboards for back massager, keyboard for flux capacitor

If you are sometimes eating snacks while typing then you can change your keyboard into food storage from all this crumbs :D

Yup new Ducky Shine 5 costs 140£, abroad I found new ones in price around 120£ + free shipment. I like this led in Ducky but looking on design Das Keyboard 4 Professional is first in my opinion and Corsair Gaming K70 second, but I will not look at it as much as feel under my fingers and hear :D
So I will probably just go with Das, Corsair or Ducky Shine 4(50£ cheaper than Shine 5 and probably there is not too much differences) the only problem will be switches. Close to me I don't have any shop where I can test them so I will just buy  after listening to sound test on youtube but can't test feeling under fingers :/
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: Bigpock on Wed, 29 June 2016, 16:30:51
I wouldn't get a corsair keyboard
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: SKD on Wed, 29 June 2016, 16:42:01
You can buy a switch tester to try out some keys first. I should have done that first looking back.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: quasistellar on Wed, 29 June 2016, 16:54:32
You're in luck. Mass drop has the barebones Novatouch right now, so you can grab that and some not-garbage keycaps in your budget.

Also consider a Topre Type Heaven

Unless you simply must have an MX switch--if that's the case I'd look at Leopolds since their stock keycaps are pretty nice.

Realistically, a Realforce is not going to be in your budget, but if it was, I'd recommend it.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: Shinrin on Wed, 29 June 2016, 17:25:38
SDK you re f.. genius, switch sampler why I didn't thought about it. I gonna buy it fast and I will know which switches I want :D
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: quasistellar on Wed, 29 June 2016, 17:42:05
I'll warn you:  a switch on a tester is not the same as typing on a switch.  I thought I'd love MX Clears but I hate them with the fury of a thousand supernovas when I actually have a full keyboard full of them.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: romevi on Wed, 29 June 2016, 18:11:34
I'll warn you:  a switch on a tester is not the same as typing on a switch.  I thought I'd love MX Clears but I hate them with the fury of a thousand supernovas when I actually have a full keyboard full of them.

Agreed. Thought I'd like a certain switch because of how heavy another switch was, but on a full board not even the heavier switch was weighty enough.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: SBJ on Thu, 30 June 2016, 02:28:16
this may sound like blasphemy, but after a long resistance, I do like using an xbox controller for some games to using the keyboard
It's not blasphemy. I use the controller for all the games I can, it's more comfortable for me.
Although I don't mind using keyboard + mouse when needed the controller is just nice and relaxing.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 30 June 2016, 03:07:55
The Xbox Controller is very good for a lot of games. I would much rather use a controller in a racing game or a platformer or a Zelda like game.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: supamesican on Thu, 30 June 2016, 07:58:08
Hello
I plan to buy new mechanical keyboard. Before I used normal membrane keyboard connected to laptop :D but I moved to other place and now I'm using laptop keyboard which for me is like hell.
So I'm gonna use this keyboard 90% for typing and about 10% in games. I have few  types:
- Corsair Gaming K70 MX Blue
- Das Keyboard 4 Professional MX Blue
- Ducky One Mechanical Keyboard MX Blue
- LOGITECH G610 Orion MX Brown

Which one of them should I buy or any other suggestion?

Do not get a cherry mx/compatible. You can do so much better for roughly the same money! If you need clicky for a new board get ether matias non quiet or unicomp(anything) for used ether a white alps/clone a model m or a model f.

non clicky but still tactile the logitech romer g stuff or a topre board or alps black(used)/salmon(used)

/my two cents. I do not like cherry for whatever reason
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 01 July 2016, 05:59:32
Switch tester won't help much.

Also don't pay too much attention to the sound of a keyboard on YouTube (or wherever).  Many factors affect keyboard sound - desk material and thickness, amount of space under the desk, desk/keyboard mat or lack thereof, room acoustics, microphone quality, speakers, distance apart the recording equipment and keyboard are, how sensitive your ears are, ...

I'd also suggest a Ducky - I have three and they are going strong after quite a few years.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: QuincyJones on Fri, 01 July 2016, 08:28:06
Switch tester won't help much.

Also don't pay too much attention to the sound of a keyboard on YouTube (or wherever).  Many factors affect keyboard sound - desk material and thickness, amount of space under the desk, desk/keyboard mat or lack thereof, room acoustics, microphone quality, speakers, distance apart the recording equipment and keyboard are, how sensitive your ears are, ...

I'd also suggest a Ducky - I have three and they are going strong after quite a few years.

Don't forget how fat you are also affects the sound - fat fingers sound different to thing fingers. Also how you type also affects the sound - do you bottom out, do you hit just enough to actuate. or whether you're using zombies heads to press keys...

And also - who actually cares how it sounds? A quiet sh*g can be as good as a squealer!
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: Shinrin on Fri, 01 July 2016, 12:32:34
I will just choose between:
- Das Keyboard 4 Professional
- Ducky One and Shine (is there any important difference, if only led thenI don't need it)
 and how compared to them looks matias Tactile Pro Keyboard and Topre Type Heaven?
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 03 July 2016, 01:04:58
Switch tester won't help much.

Also don't pay too much attention to the sound of a keyboard on YouTube (or wherever).  Many factors affect keyboard sound - desk material and thickness, amount of space under the desk, desk/keyboard mat or lack thereof, room acoustics, microphone quality, speakers, distance apart the recording equipment and keyboard are, how sensitive your ears are, ...

I'd also suggest a Ducky - I have three and they are going strong after quite a few years.

Don't forget how fat you are also affects the sound - fat fingers sound different to thing fingers. Also how you type also affects the sound - do you bottom out, do you hit just enough to actuate. or whether you're using zombies heads to press keys...

And also - who actually cares how it sounds? A quiet sh*g can be as good as a squealer!

The sound of a keyboard is often part of the appeal.
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: ander on Sun, 03 July 2016, 02:19:51
Try them. Try them. Try them.

Asking us which keyboard you should get is like asking us to choose your favourite flavour of ice cream.

Everybody prefers keyboards with different touches, sounds and looks. That's why there are so many!

Ideally, find a place where you can try them next to each other. If that's not possible, try them wherever you can, take some notes about how you feel when you use them, then compare your notes later.

Remember, more expensive doesn't mean better; it just means different—or maybe the same.

And while it's fun to have a board that looks cool, you may want to consider that a keyboard's primarily a tool—and if you're using it right, you won't be looking at when you use it, any more than you'd look at your feet when you ride a bike.

And please don't just "type" on disconnected keyboards. That's like choosing a car by sitting in it in the dealer's showroom rather than taking it out for drive. The best keyboard for you is the one you enjoy typing on the most. Just pressing keys, without seeing the characters you produce, isn't typing; it's just pressing buttons. It's a subtle difference, it matters. Good luck!
Title: Re: Keyboard for typing
Post by: ander on Sun, 03 July 2016, 02:34:38
Switch tester won't help much...

I heartily agree. They're silly. Typing isn't about pressing one button with one finger, any more than shaking hands is like sex.



...And also - who actually cares how it sounds? A quiet sh*g can be as good as a squealer!

The sound of a keyboard is often part of the appeal.

It's a huge part, for most of us. Even linear mechanical switches make distinctive sounds. MKs last much longer than RD and membrane boards, and have a more defined, consistent touch—but it's the sounds they make that complete...

the MK experience!!

I just felt like doing that.