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Title: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 08 July 2016, 03:26:47: Hi all.
Next PJT

L Z
Ergonomics TKL Keyboard
Limited

Are you interested?

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Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 08 July 2016, 03:30:54: 1st! and yes very! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: HTN47 on Fri, 08 July 2016, 03:44:54: Ohhh **** I'm buying this for sure
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Post by: fublamchu on Fri, 08 July 2016, 03:47:57: omg... I need to start saving for this
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: joey on Fri, 08 July 2016, 03:56:30: Looks funky!
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Post by: blighty on Fri, 08 July 2016, 04:00:55: Damn, just when I thought I didn't want any more keyboards. In for one!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 July 2016, 04:04:52: Looks like em.7? 😃
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: joey on Fri, 08 July 2016, 05:03:31: Quote from: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 July 2016, 04:04:52
Looks like em.7? 😃
You mean it looks like a non-split angled TKL?
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 July 2016, 05:23:10: Quote from: joey on Fri, 08 July 2016, 05:03:31
Quote from: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 July 2016, 04:04:52
Looks like em.7? 😃
You mean it looks like a non-split angled TKL?
Yeah I mean the split looks like this keyboard :
(http://cfile229.uf.daum.net/image/263FF24A54FD95B305FDAF)
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Data on Fri, 08 July 2016, 06:38:13: Oh... Oh my.

(http://i.imgur.com/t1ahpIj.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: GiveCandyy on Fri, 08 July 2016, 07:28:57: :eek: well this is an interesting keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 08 July 2016, 07:32:26: Quote from: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 July 2016, 04:04:52
Looks like em.7? 😃

I'm very sure the quality will be unique to each maker

nevertheless, this is something to look forward especially from LZ :)
Been wanting to get an ergo type board
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: nguyenkimtam on Fri, 08 July 2016, 08:04:26: 100% in
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 08 July 2016, 08:49:47: But does it split?
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: blighty on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:36:20: Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 08 July 2016, 08:49:47
But does it split?

If you wanted split, the VEA and others fit that bill.

This is what I wanted to replace my MS ergonomic 4000 years ago. Kinesis' freestyle2 mechanical ergo board seems to be vaporware at this point, so this is a welcome surprise. Will the alpha sections be angled or flat?
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Data on Fri, 08 July 2016, 12:37:34: Quote from: blighty on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:36:20
Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 08 July 2016, 08:49:47
But does it split?

If you wanted split, the VEA and others fit that bill.

This is what I wanted to replace my MS ergonomic 4000 years ago. Kinesis' freestyle2 mechanical ergo board seems to be vaporware at this point, so this is a welcome surprise. Will the alpha sections be angled or flat?
That would be awesome, but it increases the level of complexity since you have to split the PCB out into different segments. Could still be possible though (and expensive!)...
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 08 July 2016, 12:47:00: Oh yes please.
I'm in for 2.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: blighty on Fri, 08 July 2016, 12:52:22: Quote from: Data on Fri, 08 July 2016, 12:37:34
Quote from: blighty on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:36:20
Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 08 July 2016, 08:49:47
But does it split?

If you wanted split, the VEA and others fit that bill.

This is what I wanted to replace my MS ergonomic 4000 years ago. Kinesis' freestyle2 mechanical ergo board seems to be vaporware at this point, so this is a welcome surprise. Will the alpha sections be angled or flat?
That would be awesome, but it increases the level of complexity since you have to split the PCB out into different segments. Could still be possible though (and expensive!)...

LZ boards are expensive, with 1 PCB or 5 PCBs, right? ;)
I bet the controller will be under the empty section between the alphas, making a multi-PCB set up problematic without bundles of ribbon cables. Looking forward to seeing more renders/prototypes!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 08 July 2016, 13:24:04: F row? F ROW?! Alright ;D
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Post by: brighenne on Fri, 08 July 2016, 13:28:30: Hot damn.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: KetchyKech on Fri, 08 July 2016, 13:43:47: Mr. Lifezone, you're on fire ;) interest is off da chartz :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Damonskv on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:04:28: +1 :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: limitz on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:15:52: Definitely. Been wanting a layout like this for months after seeing EM.7
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: eyedrop on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:27:29: This is interesting. Good to see there are variety.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:36:21: I am just noticing this now, but why is the top left corner weird? Can it just be a 90 degree angle? I'll have to see it from more perspectives to understand why it was done.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: henz on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:52:47: Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Data on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:59:35: Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:36:21
I am just noticing this now, but why is the top left corner weird? Can it just be a 90 degree angle? I'll have to see it from more perspectives to understand why it was done.

Perspective. It appears to line up with the longer back edge on the right side.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: duhhey on Fri, 08 July 2016, 17:23:42: Very interested! :D
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: tuantruong on Fri, 08 July 2016, 20:17:52: I'm in for sure! <3
Any change there would be a ergo 75 option? :p
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 09 July 2016, 01:21:35: Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:36:21
I am just noticing this now, but why is the top left corner weird? Can it just be a 90 degree angle? I'll have to see it from more perspectives to understand why it was done.

The whole shape is kinda weird.

I'd be in for a smaller version. I like the Em.7
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 10 July 2016, 09:49:36: This project is My favorites board. ;D
I was the first keyboard of the first company.
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Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: redbanshee on Sun, 10 July 2016, 12:29:09: I would buy this! Hell pretty much anything designed by LZ i will buy! You design some of the coolest keyboards! Big fan!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 10 July 2016, 13:03:51: For me this is the holy grail of keyboards.
- A single piece split ergo mechanical modeled after my favorite keyboard of all time
- WITHOUT a large bottom wrist rest so I have an option to use it with my RollerMouse.

That is exactly the why I got into mechanical keyboards to begin with.
Super excited about this.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Floody on Sun, 10 July 2016, 14:45:52: Concept art looks interesting
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Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 10 July 2016, 16:34:21: removed.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 10 July 2016, 20:26:49: Quote from: LifeZ on Sun, 10 July 2016, 09:49:36
This project is My favorites board. ;D
I was the first keyboard of the first company.
(Attachment Link)

Not bad, really interesting to see something like this layout built to LZ's Standard.

Meaning a Second Hand built one should fetch thousands on Ebay ;) .
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: nateth on Sun, 10 July 2016, 22:57:11: It'd be awesome if it had tenting like the Microsoft Sculpt, but I'm probably in the minority with that sort of thing.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: jerue on Mon, 11 July 2016, 12:18:21: Hi LZ! I'm interested! Looking forward to updates, the render looks really good :)

Quote from: nateth on Sun, 10 July 2016, 22:57:11
It'd be awesome if it had tenting like the Microsoft Sculpt, but I'm probably in the minority with that sort of thing.

The combination of tenting and negative tilt is a dream...I'd love to see both in a custom like this, but that's wishful thinking, a nice low angle would do wonders for me
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 11 July 2016, 23:33:14: I'd love for this to have tenting. All I really want is an MS Ergo style board with MX reds and I'd be a very happy camper. If this board is along those lines, I'm definitely interested. This would be damn near perfect. Just needs some VE.A left side macro keys to really lock things in.

Programmable? Otherwise I'd be hoping for the option of an Fn key on the left side.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: airs on Fri, 15 July 2016, 23:21:54: Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 16 July 2016, 01:39:25: show~
proto~
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: biocalves on Sat, 16 July 2016, 01:51:55: Prototype looks great and I'm definitely interested! :thumb:

Would love it if the plates support switch top removal though...
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: juahenza on Sat, 16 July 2016, 02:26:04: Very nice protos!!! How many colors are you planning for the anodizing? and options of plate material? ;D
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Pemdas on Sat, 16 July 2016, 04:58:29: Looks awesome! Definitely interested in the ergo layout lately.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 16 July 2016, 08:19:48: Oh wow!
Mr. LZ, the prototype looks amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Glenmael on Sat, 16 July 2016, 08:37:36: Looks cool!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Data on Sat, 16 July 2016, 12:15:45: Dat prototype...

:eek:
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: redbanshee on Sat, 16 July 2016, 12:31:38: Good god :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: KetchyKech on Sat, 16 July 2016, 13:27:50: it looks amazing ~ I hope it will have just as many (if not more) colors available as did LZ Iron ! Very exciting, thank you for sharing, LZ
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 17 July 2016, 07:59:05: yeah~~
maybe 4~5 color
plate is sts & alu
9.5 deg
weight over 4kg
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: blighty on Sun, 17 July 2016, 08:05:15: What are the bottom row options?
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Damonskv on Sun, 17 July 2016, 09:34:46: Quote from: LifeZ on Sun, 17 July 2016, 07:59:05
yeah~~
maybe 4~5 color
plate is sts & alu
9.5 deg
weight over 4kg

How about schedule?
i need to prepare my wallet)))
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: sitch on Sun, 17 July 2016, 10:08:09: Quote from: LifeZ on Sun, 17 July 2016, 07:59:05
yeah~~
maybe 4~5 color
plate is sts & alu
9.5 deg
weight over 4kg

Would there be limit how many board will be made?
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 17 July 2016, 19:31:25: Quote from: blighty on Sun, 17 July 2016, 08:05:15
What are the bottom row options?

bot row
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Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: TD22057 on Sun, 17 July 2016, 21:17:30: +1. Looks fantastic!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: redbanshee on Sun, 17 July 2016, 21:30:09: Quote from: LifeZ on Sun, 17 July 2016, 19:31:25
Quote from: blighty on Sun, 17 July 2016, 08:05:15
What are the bottom row options?

bot row
(Attachment Link)

Dayum 4 mods on the left! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 17 July 2016, 21:47:00: Hey LZ,
I see that this project was inspired by your favorite ibm/lg ergo board. But I notice that those kind of ergo boards are not flat

They sort of have a slight angle within the alphas (towards the spacebar from both end of the alpha)

Is it hard to integrate such design to cnc without a huge increase at cost?

Something like this

(http://zapp5.staticworld.net/reviews/graphics/123241-2312p094-1b.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 17 July 2016, 22:26:33: Yummy
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 17 July 2016, 22:42:34: Very very cool. Has my interest. Interested to see pricing and color options :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: derzemel on Mon, 18 July 2016, 03:02:31: I would be very curiouds how would it look with a trackpoint (or a small trackball) and 3 vertical buttons added in the middle section. This would make ut fully ergonomical :P
I love to use the trackpoint on my laptop, but the 3 horizontal "mouse" buttons make my hand stay in an awkward position.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Data on Mon, 18 July 2016, 09:35:54: Quote from: LifeZ on Sun, 17 July 2016, 19:31:25
Quote from: blighty on Sun, 17 July 2016, 08:05:15
What are the bottom row options?

bot row
(Attachment Link)

Cool!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 18 July 2016, 20:55:52: Quote from: Jokrik on Sun, 17 July 2016, 21:47:00
Hey LZ,
I see that this project was inspired by your favorite ibm/lg ergo board. But I notice that those kind of ergo boards are not flat

They sort of have a slight angle within the alphas (towards the spacebar from both end of the alpha)

Is it hard to integrate such design to cnc without a huge increase at cost?

Something like this

Show Image
(http://zapp5.staticworld.net/reviews/graphics/123241-2312p094-1b.jpg)

yes. i know.
ergo is not flat
but cnc high costs(3D) and pcb 2 or 3 pcs.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 18 July 2016, 20:57:30: Quote from: derzemel on Mon, 18 July 2016, 03:02:31
I would be very curiouds how would it look with a trackpoint (or a small trackball) and 3 vertical buttons added in the middle section. This would make ut fully ergonomical :P
I love to use the trackpoint on my laptop, but the 3 horizontal "mouse" buttons make my hand stay in an awkward position.

haha....yeah~
this is normal ergo~
i like IBM Red trackingpoint~!!
Title: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 18 July 2016, 21:35:17: Quote from: LifeZ on Mon, 18 July 2016, 20:55:52
Quote from: Jokrik on Sun, 17 July 2016, 21:47:00
Hey LZ,
I see that this project was inspired by your favorite ibm/lg ergo board. But I notice that those kind of ergo boards are not flat

They sort of have a slight angle within the alphas (towards the spacebar from both end of the alpha)

Is it hard to integrate such design to cnc without a huge increase at cost?

Something like this

Show Image
(http://zapp5.staticworld.net/reviews/graphics/123241-2312p094-1b.jpg)

yes. i know.
ergo is not flat
but cnc high costs(3D) and pcb 2 or 3 pcs.

Ah that makes sense
Nevertheless looking forward to this :)
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 18 July 2016, 23:18:30: Seriously interested!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 22 July 2016, 11:09:28: NEW PIC~~
http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/ERGO-1

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Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Data on Fri, 22 July 2016, 12:35:35: Top row, 1.25 for me! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 22 July 2016, 20:19:46: Yup - the top option with 1.25's is the one for me too.
a FN key for each hand - perfection!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Damonskv on Sat, 30 July 2016, 09:42:16: Any ideas about gb start date?
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Post by: ipreferpie on Sun, 31 July 2016, 01:24:05: Any chance if ALPS is supported on this?
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 01 August 2016, 14:06:22: Tented this is a must buy for me, even at $600+. Flat and just split, I think VE.A will probably be what I go with. Still might pick it up to try it out. Doubt I'd have trouble selling if I didn't like it.

This does look really cool though.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 01 August 2016, 23:40:41: I would happily go in for one!
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Adgar on Thu, 11 August 2016, 22:55:09: This one looks wired.I prefer some keyboard like WF. But this one must feel good for a programmer.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Adgar on Thu, 11 August 2016, 22:57:44: For me this is the holy grail of keyboards.
- A single piece split ergo mechanical modeled after my favorite keyboard of all time
- WITHOUT a large bottom wrist rest so I have an option to use it with my RollerMouse.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 August 2016, 16:31:55: The group buy is open here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83971) in case anyone missed that.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Chief Clukey on Sun, 06 August 2017, 21:31:18: Yep. Super interested in this.

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Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 06 August 2017, 22:09:38: Quote from: Chief Clukey on Sun, 06 August 2017, 21:31:18
Yep. Super interested in this.

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Your about a year late man lol
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: AlexAtPanc on Sun, 06 August 2017, 23:20:39: Quote from: Cocopah on Sun, 06 August 2017, 22:09:38
Quote from: Chief Clukey on Sun, 06 August 2017, 21:31:18
Yep. Super interested in this.

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Your about a year late man lol

Can still be interested I guess! :D
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: FioraCorp on Sun, 06 August 2017, 23:20:46: Time to run it again! :thumb: ;D
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Post by: CraftyDrunkard on Mon, 07 August 2017, 00:21:42: I
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Post by: megaforce on Mon, 07 August 2017, 10:00:15: LZ doesn't do board reruns.

Unlucky.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: MajorKoos on Mon, 07 August 2017, 12:56:40: One was posted for sale on /r/mechmarket yesterday.
Title: Re: [IC] LZ NEXT PJT ErGO
Post by: Trente on Sun, 10 September 2017, 23:25:53: I think I am considering selling mine, or trading mine for some cool things (Alps/Topre)