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Title: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 July 2016, 02:50:08

Because it's too freakin' Hard,  and hurts ur hand to play more than 30 minutes at high APM..

They killed all my doods.

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Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: zombimuncha on Mon, 18 July 2016, 03:31:22

I see it as more of a spectator sport. Kinda like actual sport, in that regard, actually.

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: KnivesM on Mon, 18 July 2016, 03:41:38

Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 July 2016, 02:50:08

Because it's too freakin' Hard,  and hurts ur hand to play more than 30 minutes at high APM..

They killed all my doods.

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TP4 needs stronger hands, can play for hours with no issue... I will agree that it is hard to pick up, haven't had any friends actually stick with it that haven't played the original.

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: nmur on Mon, 18 July 2016, 03:45:32

Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 18 July 2016, 03:31:22

I see it as more of a spectator sport. Kinda like actual sport, in that regard, actually.

once went to a bar with friends as they were having a Starcraft themed night with the GSL streaming on the TVs (years back when it was more popular)

was a really cool atmosphere

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: SBJ on Mon, 18 July 2016, 05:30:54

Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 18 July 2016, 03:31:22

I see it as more of a spectator sport. Kinda like actual sport, in that regard, actually.

I agree. It's not something I can do, but it's cool to see people who are crazy good at it.

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 18 July 2016, 06:48:20

Find a girlfriend.

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: GiveCandyy on Mon, 18 July 2016, 06:59:25

Koreans too op is Starcraft.

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 July 2016, 13:16:59

Units die too fast.. I can't keep up.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/oh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862514)

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 18 July 2016, 13:40:17

It's interesting to watch but I've never really been interested in RTS games.  The few times I've played, I've realized they aren't for me and move on.

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: yomammary on Mon, 18 July 2016, 13:54:30

I used to watch so much SC2 on twitch, then it just got boring.
Though it is kind of what made me discover mechanical keyboards.

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: theteam on Mon, 18 July 2016, 14:51:34

the learning the curve is too high

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 18 July 2016, 15:06:00

Quote from: theteam on Mon, 18 July 2016, 14:51:34

the learning the curve is too high

This. To learn even basic builds takes a ****load of focused practice.

Compare to a game like CSGO where most of your skills (like map knowledge, aim, etc.) get better from just playing. There is obviously focused practice in CSGO, especially the higher you go, but you can play the game and have fun without having to learn a complicated sequence of ****.

Plus there isn't as much instant gratification. The first few minutes you usually have no idea whether you're ahead or behind. In CSGO I get a little neurotransmitter reward every time I hear that ping from a frag.

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Mon, 18 July 2016, 21:18:48

CUS IS FOR NERDS XD

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 18 July 2016, 21:24:22

it's tiring.. the learning curve isn't too high but you do need some adjustment either..

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 July 2016, 23:55:54

what I find the most confusing is the hotkeys..

I am playing using the Grid hotkeys.. it works alrite.. but it's very cumbersome...

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: Floody on Mon, 18 July 2016, 23:58:29

Tp looks like he has strong opinions on the competitive Starcraft scene

Title: Re: Why people don't play Starcraft II
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 19 July 2016, 00:23:23

Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 18 July 2016, 23:55:54

what I find the most confusing is the hotkeys..

I am playing using the Grid hotkeys.. it works alrite.. but it's very cumbersome...

The repetition required to make it second nature is ridiculous. I had an idea years ago that I wanted to get good (WoL). I was going to play Terran, so all I did was practice simple macro and try and hit timings. I still have them written down: 3:45 natural, 6:50 factory, 7:30 engineering bay, 8:00 starport, 10:00 50 scv, 10:50 +1 attack, 12:00 combat shields. There wasn't any reason you couldn't hit diamond with just marine/mauauder/medivac even with poor micro at the time if you never missed timings. After a while I could do it without trouble against AI, then just as it was second nature enough to do it against humans I quit. While I was marginally successful none of it was fun. But yeah, after way too many hours of dedicated practice you never have to think about hotkeys again.

And so like many endeavors in my life, I know exactly what I need to do to be successful, I know that with sufficient focused effort I will get there, and with full recognition of what it will actually take to be good, I choose not to because the effort is overwhelming, and I just don't like it enough.