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Title: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 05 August 2016, 02:48:10: (https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13900302_1355980717750170_2124481685954826225_n.png?oh=417a93ab3c2ba09989fe3ee801ddaa74&oe=5821692A)

Not sure if this is new or not, I haven't been keeping up, but might as well share if it hasn't been seen yet. :)
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: Pliny on Fri, 05 August 2016, 03:03:05: I wish the diagram showed where the LED was, in relation to the oneness of the cup rubber, and what parts are translucent.

Also, is it really that hard nowadays to get someone fluent in two languages? Really?
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: sony on Fri, 05 August 2016, 03:59:31: they also showed their config tool.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13909421_1356007701080805_6212263987652111463_o.png)
It's possible that the LED doesnt require new domes.
(http://media.bestofmicro.com/4/N/585959/original/topre-realforce-rgb-5.jpg)
but who knows. We'll find out in a few months. I believe they said they aim to release this at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: kasakka on Fri, 05 August 2016, 05:13:34: Topre really likes to take their sweet time, don't they? I remember reading about these like last spring or something.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 02 November 2016, 18:48:28: Looks like mechanicalkeyboards.com will receive a shipment of them before xmas--would be cutting it pretty close, though (Nov. 30th)

No one likes the Web key? (F1)

(https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_2114_RF1.jpg)
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 02 November 2016, 19:15:06: If I had the money, I'd buy one ASAP.

Definitely one the next boards on my list.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: 1391406 on Wed, 02 November 2016, 20:17:13: Quote from: csmertx on Wed, 02 November 2016, 18:48:28
Looks like mechanicalkeyboards.com will receive a shipment of them before xmas--would be cutting it pretty close, though (Nov. 30th)

No one likes the Web key? (F1)

Show Image
(https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_2114_RF1.jpg)

I don't. I'd prefer legends like the ones on the 104U. They should make this in TKL.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: 1391406 on Wed, 02 November 2016, 20:19:02
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Wed, 02 November 2016, 22:11:37: Quote from: 1391406 on Wed, 02 November 2016, 20:17:13
Quote from: csmertx on Wed, 02 November 2016, 18:48:28
Looks like mechanicalkeyboards.com will receive a shipment of them before xmas--would be cutting it pretty close, though (Nov. 30th)

No one likes the Web key? (F1)

Show Image
(https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_2114_RF1.jpg)

I don't. I'd prefer legends like the ones on the 104U. They should make this in TKL.

I don't care about the legends because the first thing I'm going to do when I get mine is junk the stock keycaps and put PuLSE or Round 6 on it.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: richard912 on Wed, 02 November 2016, 22:18:21: I actually don't care for the RGB. What excites me is the MX sliders, which opens up a world of possibilities for keycaps
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: 1391406 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 00:51:18: Quote from: richard912 on Wed, 02 November 2016, 22:18:21
I actually don't care for the RGB. What excites me is the MX sliders, which opens up a world of possibilities for keycaps

I could care less about the RGB. If they ever make this in a TKL, I'd buy.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: 1391406 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 00:54:38: Quote from: zslane on Wed, 02 November 2016, 22:11:37
Quote from: 1391406 on Wed, 02 November 2016, 20:17:13
Quote from: csmertx on Wed, 02 November 2016, 18:48:28
Looks like mechanicalkeyboards.com will receive a shipment of them before xmas--would be cutting it pretty close, though (Nov. 30th)

No one likes the Web key? (F1)

Show Image
(https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_2114_RF1.jpg)

I don't. I'd prefer legends like the ones on the 104U. They should make this in TKL.

I don't care about the legends because the first thing I'm going to do when I get mine is junk the stock keycaps and put PuLSE or Round 6 on it.

I'm only interested in sphericals, and there aren't any that currently interest me. I also have no interest in another full sized Realforce. TKL or bust.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: potatobot on Thu, 03 November 2016, 01:45:23: More layouts please! :)
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Thu, 03 November 2016, 01:48:02: For me, TKLs are a waste of good switches. Whenever I try to use a NovaTouch, I keep reaching over to enter numbers with the numpad and snarl in frustration when I find it missing. It's like a missing limb or something.

I have a RealForce 104UK Hi-Pro, which is an excellent keyboard, but it suffers from the crippling inability to take any of my SA keycaps. The ANSI-108 format of the RealForce RGB will be a godsend.

Oh, and thank gawd I'll be able to shut off those obnoxious LEDs...
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: 1391406 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 02:13:13: Quote from: zslane on Thu, 03 November 2016, 01:48:02
For me, TKLs are a waste of good switches. Whenever I try to use a NovaTouch, I keep reaching over to enter numbers with the numpad and snarl in frustration when I find it missing. It's like a missing limb or something.

I've used full sized boards for a long time, mostly vintage Model M's, F's, AEK's, etc. I tried the RF 87U and initially missed the numpad, but I've adapted to it and actually tend to prefer TKL now, but that's me.

Quote from: zslane on Thu, 03 November 2016, 01:48:02
I have a RealForce 104UK Hi-Pro, which is an excellent keyboard, but it suffers from the crippling inability to take any of my SA keycaps. The ANSI-108 format of the RealForce RGB will be a godsend.

The 104UK key caps are practically the only ones I'm interested in at the moment. Hopefully I'll find one of the UK Hi-Pro's at some point, mainly for the caps.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: potatobot on Thu, 03 November 2016, 04:29:01: I want 1800 or 96key which is more compact :)
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: quasistellar on Thu, 03 November 2016, 08:40:28: Quote from: zslane on Wed, 02 November 2016, 22:11:37
Quote from: 1391406 on Wed, 02 November 2016, 20:17:13
Quote from: csmertx on Wed, 02 November 2016, 18:48:28
Looks like mechanicalkeyboards.com will receive a shipment of them before xmas--would be cutting it pretty close, though (Nov. 30th)

No one likes the Web key? (F1)

Show Image
(https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_2114_RF1.jpg)

I don't. I'd prefer legends like the ones on the 104U. They should make this in TKL.

I don't care about the legends because the first thing I'm going to do when I get mine is junk the stock keycaps and put PuLSE or Round 6 on it.

Hell yes. Currently rocking Modern Selectric on the silenced Novatouch here. It's funny, but I might end up getting this Realforce "gaming" keyboard for work because it has the numpad, and getting a Leopold fc980c for home because it's a bit more compact. I didn't love the Topre feel for gaming when I tried the Novatouch there, but that was unsilenced and stock keycaps. I'll have to give it another go since I've modded it. I have tried SO HARD at work to make the Novatouch with a numpad work, but I do just enough number entry that I can't stand not having it integrated, and I'm not paying for a Realforce numpad.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: Tangtawan on Thu, 03 November 2016, 17:02:46: I have seen the real one in Computex 2016 at Topre Realforce booth. The build quality and typing feel was not as good as the original Realforce (currently in the market). I'd say that the quality is around the same as modern Duckys, using very similar keycaps and with Cherry MX sliders.

Their activation point selection feature were interesting though, they also have another board that works like joystick's analog and will probably be good with driving game, as you will be able to control how hard to push the pedal and im looking forward to get that model.

the leaflet is as seen in the attachment.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: keykaiser on Thu, 03 November 2016, 18:37:42: MADE IN JAPAN
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: czarek on Tue, 08 November 2016, 10:47:33: Quote from: richard912 on Wed, 02 November 2016, 22:18:21
I actually don't care for the RGB. What excites me is the MX sliders, which opens up a world of possibilities for keycaps

Am I the only person that would like to have Topre keycaps on a Cherry board? :D
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Tue, 08 November 2016, 12:06:37: I placed my pre-order at mechanicalkeyboards.com for one of these last night. I can't wait to put PuLSE on it!
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 11 November 2016, 16:10:00: This is now on my radar. Due for some colorful **** and those sliders doe!

Also, TKL hate on here. Wtff

I actually took the time and learned how to touch type on the number row above the alphas. For daily data entry amd browsing, it's fine. Definitely a good challenge!
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Fri, 11 November 2016, 16:29:20: I never truly mastered the numrow, to be honest, and I've been touch typing for over 35 years. I still prefer a numpad for entering numbers with more than one or two digits. And I do that surprisingly often.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 11 November 2016, 16:40:52: Quote from: zslane on Fri, 11 November 2016, 16:29:20
I never truly mastered the numrow, to be honest, and I've been touch typing for over 35 years. I still prefer a numpad for entering numbers with more than one or two digits. And I do that surprisingly often.

It's a challenge but possible. I'm very accurate with numbers 1-7 and 0 (and fast). 8 and 9 are a bit of trouble because i rarely use em. I do love TKL and on my desk, it's best ergonomic solution.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Fri, 11 November 2016, 17:05:47: Yeah, the size debate has come up periodically here, and I am unmoved by 99% of the arguments I hear for downsizing keyboards that are hooked up to desktop PCs.

Maybe it's just a matter of what I'm used to, but I have no love for the TKL form factor. It's too big for my iPad, and it lacks a numpad for all other situations. Moreover, I don't have such a tiny space for a keyboard that I have to sacrifice the numpad. Finally, my wrists/hands have yet to suffer any ill effects after three decades of having the mouse positioned beyond the numpad. There are zero ergonomic benefits to a TKL for me, and only the annoying absence of the numpad which my muscle memory is constantly reaching for.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: czarek on Thu, 17 November 2016, 02:21:36: Oh and also, compared to normal Realforce this thing looks like crap. It resembles Razer keyboard more than Topre...
Glossy plastic in a top right corner, white plate, awful gamer-like legends... At least the layout is OK. I don't know what's going on with Topre these days :(
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Thu, 17 November 2016, 02:57:26: Once you shut off the backlighting, like any civilized person would, and replace the stock keycaps with something lovely, the only remaining aesthetic issue will be that it only comes in black. Does it look exactly like previous RealForce boards? No, but an oversized bezel is not one of the "normal" RealForce's crowning achievements.
Title: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: dracoNiiC on Thu, 17 November 2016, 18:53:09: But how many people are going to actually buy this for the board itself, compared to wanting to scavenge the sliders for their own RF
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Thu, 17 November 2016, 19:20:01: I'd say the ratio will be at least 1000-to-1. For every nutter willing to tear apart two Topre boards just to reassemble one of them with the sliders and stabilizers from the other, there will be at least a thousand others who will just use the RealForce RGB board as is, or with keycaps swapped.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: dilbertprogrammer on Fri, 18 November 2016, 16:42:24: The sound leaves much to be desired as well
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Fri, 18 November 2016, 17:38:55: Silencing the upstroke would have been ideal, to be sure. In fact, I would gladly trade the backlighting for upstroke silencing (and a white case option), but in world with zero full-size-(authentic)Topre-with-MX-sliders keyboard options, I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: losing_ctrl on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:53:40: Looks like these are in stock - how long have these been available??? :cool:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2114
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 18 November 2016, 22:19:13: Quote from: losing_ctrl on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:53:40
Looks like these are in stock - how long have these been available??? :cool:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2114

If only it were a TKL or smaller.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Fri, 18 November 2016, 23:03:56: Quote from: losing_ctrl on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:53:40
Looks like these are in stock - how long have these been available??? :cool:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2114

They've been available for pre-order for a couple of weeks. Mine arrives on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Fri, 18 November 2016, 23:06:06: Quote from: MajorKoos on Fri, 18 November 2016, 22:19:13
Quote from: losing_ctrl on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:53:40
Looks like these are in stock - how long have these been available??? :cool:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2114

If only it were a TKL or smaller.

The NovaTouch had the TKL layout covered quite nicely. You should pick up one of those while you still can.

I wouldn't mind a 60% version of the RealForce RGB (minus the RGB), but I'm not holding my breath. Topre doesn't seem to be terribly fond of the 60% size.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: Niomosy on Fri, 18 November 2016, 23:56:06: Quote from: dracoNiiC on Thu, 17 November 2016, 18:53:09
But how many people are going to actually buy this for the board itself, compared to wanting to scavenge the sliders for their own RF

Those that don't have a RealForce board?
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Sat, 19 November 2016, 01:24:51: Besides, it would be far cheaper to buy a Noppoo or Royal Kludge and harvest the sliders from that.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: durainello on Sat, 19 November 2016, 02:04:04: It's just another freaking Novatouch with LEDs :D
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Sat, 19 November 2016, 10:08:36: Quote from: durainello on Sat, 19 November 2016, 02:04:04
It's just another freaking Novatouch with LEDs :D

Indeed. And if CM had seen fit to produce a 108-key version of the NovaTouch, I'd probably have several by now!

But they never did; I'm grateful that Topre decided to do so (finally).
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: moh18one on Sat, 19 November 2016, 13:43:43: Quote from: zslane on Sat, 19 November 2016, 10:08:36
Quote from: durainello on Sat, 19 November 2016, 02:04:04
It's just another freaking Novatouch with LEDs :D

Indeed. And if CM had seen fit to produce a 108-key version of the NovaTouch, I'd probably have several by now!

But they never did; I'm grateful that Topre decided to do so (finally).

Pay 260$ for this .... :-\
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Thu, 24 November 2016, 13:12:16: The stock RealForce RGB is very noisy due to the upstroke thwack of its sliders. However, after spending the last couple of hours transplanting the silencing rings from my Noppoo EC108Pro to my new RealForce RGB, I can report that it is an absolute joy to type on. I have PuLsE keycaps on it, and I have also put neoprene pads around the stems of the keys that I hit the hardest (Backspace, Enter, Spacebar) to help soften their downstroke. With these relatively minor modifications this keyboard has become my favorite.

If only it came with a white case...
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: losing_ctrl on Thu, 24 November 2016, 16:42:02: Quote from: zslane on Thu, 24 November 2016, 13:12:16
The stock RealForce RGB is very noisy due to the upstroke thwack of its sliders. However, after spending the last couple of hours transplanting the silencing rings from my Noppoo EC108Pro to my new RealForce RGB, I can report that it is an absolute joy to type on. I have PuLsE keycaps on it, and I have also put neoprene pads around the stems of the keys that I hit the hardest (Backspace, Enter, Spacebar) to help soften their downstroke. With these relatively minor modifications this keyboard has become my favorite.

If only it came with a white case...

Thanks for the report, sounds good. Feel free to post some pics of your new favorite KB, I'd love to see what it looks like with your PulsE caps... :cool:
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Fri, 25 November 2016, 10:41:01: [attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 25 November 2016, 10:51:07: Quote from: zslane on Fri, 25 November 2016, 10:41:01
(Attachment Link)

How's the build quality? Feel fairly sturdy?
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Fri, 25 November 2016, 11:27:18: I've taken it completely apart in order to install silencing rings on the switch sliders, so I've seen how it is built. It is a very clean, well-made keyboard. Top quality parts all around.

However, it should be noted that some parts are different than previous RealForce boards due to the RGB backlighting. For instance, the switch housings are completely transparent. Does that make them better or worse than standard RealForce switch housings? I couldn't say. All I can say is that they are different. The stabilizers are different too. I've never seen any like them before. But they are completely silent and they work great, so being different isn't a bad thing at all.

The case is perhaps the weakest component, IMO. Its design is different from a typical RealForce board and it doesn't feel as solid to me. But then, my only point of comparison is with my 104UK Hi-Pro board which is built like a tank. Having said that, I don't really notice the case design while I'm typing. After installing silencing rings, it types and sounds like a dream, so I am not at all disappointed. I only wish I could get it in white!
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: losing_ctrl on Fri, 25 November 2016, 11:38:13: Quote from: zslane on Fri, 25 November 2016, 10:41:01
(Attachment Link)

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Thanks for the picture, great!
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: zslane on Fri, 25 November 2016, 11:43:48: RealForce RGB stabilizers:

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: Neo.X on Fri, 25 November 2016, 15:24:27: Kind the same story like my Novatouch. It was loud as hell. But after I put hyper ring on it. it's very enjoyable to type on.
Title: Re: Realforce RGB info from Their Facebook Page
Post by: Tempest790 on Sun, 27 November 2016, 01:11:44: Here's a typing demo on the Realforce RGB.

I ordered one, and it should be here next week. It will be my Christmas present to myself. This is my first Topre board, so I'm kind of anxious to see what it feels like.